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Title: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Sergio on May 23rd, 2010 at 4:55pm
I have been reading a book by Bruce Moen and he talk much about Unconditional Love.
But I have read too much points o view about Unconditional Love. So I do not know what he understand by Unconditional Love. Can anybody clarify this theme? What is Unconditional Love and how can we express it? |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Beau on May 23rd, 2010 at 5:32pm
Think of it as the greek definition of Agape. Love no matter what...forgiveness no matter what.
Yours, Beau |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by spooky2 on May 23rd, 2010 at 9:49pm
To understand best what Bruce means with this, I think it's good to have a look at the examples he gave. In general, search for situations where you felt exceptionally well, at peace, in acceptance with everything, serene, awake. Imagine this situation and try to feel it again. Pure Unconditional Love though does not depend on specific situations, but to recall those situations can trigger this feeling to come back, and you can become more familiar with it, until it is not necessary anymore to use specific images to feel it. You might give it a different name, PUL is the one which probably describes it best for Bruce.
Spooky |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by recoverer on May 23rd, 2010 at 11:02pm
One possible definition is that you don't require a person to show you his or her resume before you'll love he or she.
An example, if your kid does good on a spelling bee that's great, but even if he (or she) takes last place you'll still love him completely. Another example, you won't conclude that people are more deserving of love and respect than other life forms. We're all sacred. |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by heisenberg69 on May 24th, 2010 at 6:01am
The key word is 'unconditional'. Taking it one step further its also loving others (which Jesus and others talked about 'love thine enemies') who may do/wish harm to us. It seems to be buiit upon a deep appreciation that its all good.... faith that ultimately the process is perfect. Needs a lot of work for most of us !
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Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by b2 on May 24th, 2010 at 7:01am
Sergio, unconditional love is a state of being that comes from the heart. It is a kind of radiance which you can feel that eminates from this place in your body. When you are aligned with this quality, you will feel a warmth toward all that is, a warmth and a comfort and a caring, which feels fuller and more real than any other concern you may have. It is not something you want but it is something you can receive. It is not something you take but it is something you can give. It is an openness of heart, and it is ever expanding, and it has no limits. All that is small, all that is tender, all that is vulnerable is easily contained in it. All that is great, all that is mighty, all that is strong is easily contained in it. Therefore, where you find struggle, where you find resistance, know that unconditional love is the solution. It is the missing link. It is invisible, and yet people notice it. When you feel it, you know it.
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Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Beau on May 24th, 2010 at 7:35am
That is a b e a you tiful definition b2.
Yours, beau |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by heisenberg69 on May 24th, 2010 at 8:56am
B2ifull !
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Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by betson on May 24th, 2010 at 9:01am
Thank you, b2,
for that lovely explanation. I'm going to keep a copy posted where I can see it often! Bets |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Sergio on May 24th, 2010 at 9:57am
I want to share with you what Frank Kepple wrote about love. It is very interesting.
"Love is a state of mind and fear is an emotion or a feeling. Now, I fully understand where people are coming from when they might disagree, saying love is not a state of mind, but a feeling. Myself, I can agree in the sense that we tend to interpret love as a feeling, but I would respectfully point out that this is merely an interpretation. So here’s what it means: When the traditional works say that love is truth, what they mean is, love is a Truth. Now, when something is defined as a Truth, what they are defining is a particular kind of reality. They are making a specific distinction between what we might call a local, physical-focus reality. Say, for example, a chair. This could be said to be a reality, it exists as a physical truth. But it is not a truth in the wider sense of it being a Truth. This distinction is sometimes made more apparent by capitalizing the word Truth, when it is meant in a wider sense. So a Truth, then, has a reality in a wider sense. In other words, a Truth is a reality that is not limited to any particular realm of existence; but is a reality that is present in all realms of existence. So in every realm of existence, you will find there is the expression or manifestation of love. Love is a fundamental energy, that permeates all dimensions. However, within our physical dimension, we experience merely one aspect of the reality of this Truth we call love. Given certain conditions, it is possible to adopt an alternate mental state that will allow us to merge our sense of consciousness with the energy of love. Thus we can allow the feeling of this mergence to become manifest within our objective awareness. The actual sensations we feel as a result of this merging (which are rather nice!) we interpret as a particular range of feelings. There are many other reams of existence where people consciously merge with the energy of love. While their interpretations of the experience may be different from our own interpretations, the actual energy they interact with is the same… it’s just their interpretation that is different. It is unfortunate (though perfectly understandable) that we then put two and two together, and conclude that love is merely a feeling… because that is how we interpret it. But we fail to recognize the wider reality of love as a Truth. This, of course, is something that basic spiritual teachings have been trying to point out for thousands of years! But, like I say, for some reason people took the basic teachings and made religions out of them, and we are only just now learning how to unravel the mess. Okay, so now I come to the “fear” aspect, in the sense of where it was claimed that fear is the opposite of love. First, there are no opposites. They are merely belief constructs that we harmonize with for a variety of reasons. Our belief constructs shape our reality. Our reality is not good or bad, negative or positive, etc. Our reality simply is. It is our misinterpretation of reality that leads us into making all manner of erroneous judgements. The concept of “polarity” does of course have its practical uses, for instance, when replacing the batteries in your Walkman. But when we take this idea and apply it to energy, in terms of mental energy, our thinking tends to go way off base. I’m not going to go into any detail here about how we create our reality, as I wish to remain focused on the theme of love and emotions. But in short, the BIG mistake we make is, we start to think of our lives as something that happens to us, rather than something we create for ourselves. Anyhow, back to emotions: So fear is an emotion, but is fear a Truth? No Hate is an emotion, but is hate a Truth? No Is any emotion a Truth? No Is emotion a reality? Yes Then why is it not a Truth? Because for a reality to be a Truth, it must be a reality that is present in all realms of existence. Our emotions are physical-realm constructs only. So emotions are realities that each of us generates, in a local sense, from our core beliefs. More specifically, emotions are communications that present us with feelings about the way situations are interacting with our core beliefs. These feelings are entirely of our own individual creation. Whereas love, being a Truth, is a universally present energy. In other words, love is not something we generate or something we create, as we do with our ordinary feelings. Love is a universally distributed, ever-present energy we can merge with, and feel the effects of. There is no opposite to love. Love simply is. We confuse it with our locally generated feelings through faulty interpretation." |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by recoverer on May 24th, 2010 at 12:44pm
That's a good way to put it B2.
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Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by betson on May 25th, 2010 at 3:59pm
Hi
When we generate unconditional love ala Moen's or b2's explanations, we put ourselves back in harmony with that all pervasive caring, giving Love energy field. Kepple is wise but he is ignoring that most of us need to be reminded how to become re-immersed within love as of the essence of all life. Due to the word 'generated,' Kepple and b2 seem to be contradicting each other, but I think they're just discussing the field of Love with different focusses/focii. Bets |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Romain on May 25th, 2010 at 6:38pm wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 7:01am:
B2......wow... you nail it as far as i'm concern and it's a keep in my book. Thank you for sharing this. PUL, R. |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by spooky2 on May 26th, 2010 at 8:05pm
Very good, folks! I agree fully with B2, as well as with Kepple. The styles to describe it are different, but I see the same "thing" is meant.
I, too, have spoken in my post of a "feeling" regarding PUL. Kepple gives a very good specification. It isn't a mere feeling beneath other feelings. It is something much more encompassing: It still remains, while all those "feelings" have been dropped. He as well pointed out, that we, as physical human beings focused mainly on the physical, tend to interprete it as an (exceptionally astounding good) feeling, when we aren't aware of the greater reality. Kepple, in another script, doubted that "love" is an adequate word for this universal "thing". He, as far as I recall, interpreted it as the energy which is radiated when the realisation is there that all of the physical (including the own person) is a concept, founded in the "final" focus level beyond Focus 27. Spooky |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by juditha on Jun 1st, 2010 at 2:14pm
if only unconditional love was on this earth plain but it only exists for us humans in the spiritworld,the only unconditional love on the earth plain is from the animal kingdom but most human don't deserve unconditional love from the animal kingdom because they cant understand pul,man has got a lot to answer for,though there some good ones around what respect the love of humans and animals.
what really gets up my back at christmas ,the little spoilt rich men and women find pleasure getting on a horse and hunting some poor defenceless fox and watching it slowly dieing in agony and fear,poor little rich boys and girls,got nothing better to do than get a kick out of killing defenceless foxs on christmas time and other times,so sad they need this to spice up there life,just shows money didnt teach them respect for living creatures,god did not say they could torture the fox on the same time his son was born or after either,its supposed to be a celebration of jesus birth who came among us from his father god to teach us to love,but even in his day,there were some that walked past him thinking only of money. fox hunting should be banned for good,god did not place the defencless foxes on this earth plain for bored little rich boys and girls to get pleasure out of seeing them scream in terror,so even animals unconditional love is pushed back in there face,just because they have the misfortune to be born a fox, and grow up on some bored little rich boys estate,eats his turkey,drinks his wine and then thinks"oh i call my bored little rich friends and we will hunt a poor defenceless fox". love and god bless love juditha |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Volu on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 5:42am
In my childhood I was too harsh with a dog and it bit "my" face. Instant balance. Point taken. Pleased to see there are animals that aren't defenseless and/or don't subscribe to victimhood.
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Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Ralph Buskey on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 2:40pm Quote:
I agree with you Juditha. Animals are God's creatures and they understand pure unconditional love better than humans. I regularly feed the birds and squirrels in my yard and I can feel the love that they give me in return. I even get a connection through their eyes that tells me that they appreciate my offerings of peanuts and seeds, pizza and pie crusts, and whatever else I toss outback. I'm fortunate to have a peaceful atmosphere to live in. I feel bad for those people in other parts of the world that suffer from no fault of their own. This world needs compassion on a bigger scale than exists today. Ralph |
Title: Re: What is Unconditional Love? Post by Jean on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 4:00pm
Hi,
I've been thinking/researching and generally mulling over the question re: unconditional love. Come up with many thoughts and 1 site that I found very valuable re: this important topic: http://suprememastertv.com/ss/Searching-for-God-in-the-Brain-Canadian-Neuroscientist-Dr.-Mario-Beauregard.html If the supermaster tv link doesn't work, look up any thing on Dr. Mario Beauregard and his brain research if you haven't already. Jean |
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