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Message started by juditha on May 7th, 2010 at 3:01pm

Title: hitler the second antichrist
Post by juditha on May 7th, 2010 at 3:01pm
hi i was watching a programme on tv last night and it was called the nostradamus effect,nostradamus said that napoleon is the 1st antichrist and hitler was the 2nd antichrist and that the third anti christ will be coming from america or the middle east.

also that he will pretend to be something he isn't and that he will have a vast army and will cause mass destruction and the devil will then be confronted by jesus with his army and the devil will be defeated and thrown into the abyss.

then the devil will escape once more to try again but will be defeated by god for the last time and will be thrown back into the abyss forever.

also before this happens jesus will come as a theif in the night and take all the good to heaven with him and after the devils defeat we will be all living in a beautiful world of love with perfect bodies that will never die.

i really beleive this because we are getting more and more severe earthquakes,the wheathers is all out of sorts and the ice is melting ect..ect and the revelation in the bible says all this and its really happening,all starting to follow the revelation.

love and god bless  love juditha

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by hawkeye on May 7th, 2010 at 8:56pm
Just remember that its only a TV show. Many of Nostradamus quatrains could mean many different things and its a lot easier to see how they could fit after the fact. The show was interesting. But remember that its TV and meant to sell you something. Like an idea or a product. I know you will be OK even if it all hit the fan tomorrow.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by tgecks on May 8th, 2010 at 5:41pm
I actually think Paul (yes, "saint Paul") was the first Anti-Christ, as we are practicing Pauline Christianity.....
which has so very little to do with what Jeshua actually said and did.

Do not imagine there is a war and that God can actually lose. After all, all there is is just that-- all there is. And that would include even the Antichrist, if there is or was one. Just my 2 cents.

Thomas

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Berserk2 on May 8th, 2010 at 7:30pm
I'm trying to decide which of these 2 claims is more absurd:

(1) Starcraft: "If I prove that it [am afterlife] does not [exist], my next plan is to kill my wife and as many people as I can. My parents had no right to give birth to me if there is no afterlife. No right whatsoever. They will pay for what I am going through."

(2) tgecks (Thomas): "I actually think Paul...was the first Anti-Christ, as we are practicing Pauline Christianity .... which has so very little to do with what Jeshua actually said and did."

Thnmas is vobviously ignorant of Christian preaching and values.  I hate to break this to you, Thomas, but almost every church preaches on the Gospels more often than Paul's epistles.  Secondly, Thomas does not know that Paul had to gain the approval for His Gospel of the eyewitnesses of Jesus' life and teaching (see e. g. Galatians 2:6-10).  Also, Thomas is virtually a biblical illiterate, and so, he is unaware of the many agreements on basic issues between Paul and Jesus.  If Thomas is actually willing to have his ignorance demonstrated in detail. I welcome the challenge! 

It's not an easy vote because I'm convinced that Starcraft is merely expressing his frustration over the lack of attention to afterlife evidence on this site.  He is being childish, but I don't believe he intends to harm his family. 

Or perhaps Hawkeye's backpedaling just as I predicted he would is even more absurd.  When confronted with paranormal experiences (1)-(10) in my thread "A Healing of a Cripple," he realizes that he can't dismiss them as "mere coincidences" and claim an IQ higher than a geranium.  Thus refuted, his new cliam is "that these so called miracles can be explained as helpers from other dimensions using the appearance of Jesus so as not to scare, or in order to make the apparition acceptable to the receiver." What his implicit retraction overllooks is that only 2 of my 10 examples even involve an appearance of Jesus!  Duh! 

Don




Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by hawkeye on May 8th, 2010 at 8:39pm
And to think that's makes me at least twice as intelligent as you Don. Thank you. I'm not backpedaling at all. I was using the Jesus posts as an example. Your statements seams to be the most absurd Don here. Why are you trying to take over Juditha's posts with your rantings? Get it together and least move back to your own posts instead of plugging up hers with your trash talk.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Beau on May 8th, 2010 at 9:12pm
Here we go. Good God can we give Hitler a break. I am am the anti christ Okay? Can we just drop all the Hitler talk. I'll gladly take the wrap for him if people will just stop talking about him. You just give that character more strength than he deserves. For the love of God.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by supermodel on May 8th, 2010 at 10:59pm

Beau wrote on May 8th, 2010 at 9:12pm:
Here we go. Good God can we give Hitler a break. I am am the anti christ Okay? Can we just drop all the Hitler talk. I'll gladly take the wrap for him if people will just stop talking about him. You just give that character more strength than he deserves. For the love of God.
:) AGREED!

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by heisenberg69 on May 9th, 2010 at 5:43am
Ditto !

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Starboom on May 9th, 2010 at 7:20am
That was really uncalled for in this thread, Berserk2. Starcraft isn't even in the thread, and last I checked, an ex-member.

As for the OP, I can't really say I believe tv shows like that. It can be interesting and entertaining, but it's usually theories made up from thin air.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Beau on May 9th, 2010 at 10:37am
Don supports the very people Jesus fought in his revolution. Just ignore him. Anything he says that is understanding of us is him when he is drunk or something....He does not get it and perhaps never will. he was probably the biggest bully in school or the one who got beat up for not keeping his mouth shut.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by hawkeye on May 9th, 2010 at 12:44pm
Beau, You keep talking like that and Don might start agreeing that your #3. Of course there is always the possibility that there is no anti Christ and its just another attempt from organised religions to instill fear and control the masses in an attempt to extort money for their own purposes.
In my little town the Church has just sold the property it sits on. It was in-trusted to them and put in their name many decades ago because it was thought that it would make it safe against evil and greed. Most likly to save some tax dollars too. The community built a church and community hall. Our communities gathering place. Built a house for the Preacher. Now some 65 years later, the church has decided that there isnt enough money to be made off our little community and they have bigger bills to worry about. (need I mention the little boys and girls they so ruthlessly beat and molested in this area, mostly First Nations probably because they were the easiest and generated the biggest dollar) So now they sold it and are fighting paying restitution to the community for building the structures and maintaining them for so long.  When I conciter the third antiChrist. Perhaps its time to look in the direction of the Church its self.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Beau on May 9th, 2010 at 12:49pm
Well said Hawkeye. I don't condemn don I just think he's a bully and not really seeking anything but his own ego. Thats' all. I mean him no disrespect other than that he has given me. He is a ponitificator of the highest order. When you point your finger at someone there are three more pointing back at you. I am at peace. I know why I am.

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Jean on May 9th, 2010 at 5:10pm
Beau & Hawkeye,

I'm finding that the new term is cyber-bullying. We don't want to date ourselves. ;D

Juditha,

Please don't take anyone here too personally, esp. Don. Love your honest input-keep up the good work Sweet thing. [smiley=kiss.gif]

Love, Jean

P.S. I think our friend Don was more upset then we realize re:Starcraft

pps, Just found out that the Hitler thread is considered one of the most common pillars of every online debate according to R.Kyanke. But I didn't think that we were on this site to debate but rather to learn and share about the afterlife using our own honest personal perceptions of the world we see. But then again, what do I know :-/ ;D ;)

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by DocM on May 9th, 2010 at 7:22pm
Hi Juditha,

For me, thes kinds of musings take us off track.  We are meant to live our lives and express love in the process as we explore.  If we put our faith only in a battle in which an anti-christ epitomizes our evil side and problems, it takes effort and responsiblility away from our individual soul explorations.  It implies that "if only the time came when the anti-christ were defeated we'd all be living in a heavenly state. 

Yet we know, deep down that we are in the here and now, and that our thoughts and actions cause reactions.  Our thought has power right now; that is what we are here to learn. 

Doomsday scenarios, spectacular as they are, take us away from finding God and love in our everyday interactions with other people.


Matthew

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Berserk2 on May 9th, 2010 at 8:24pm
I have reposted this reply from my "Healing of a Cripple" where it is more appropriate to reply to the explanation of the debate here.

Hawkeye: "Many of these so-called miracles seem more likely just coincidence."
____________________________
In reply, I pointed to the paranormal aspects of 10 of my cases that make the "just coincidence" rationalization absurd.  Hawkeye immediately realizes this, and so, he backpedals and offers a different objection that is even more absurd:

Hawkeye: "These so-called miracles can be explained as helpers from other dimensions using the appearance of Jesus so as not to scare, or in orider make the apparition acceptable to the receiver."
_____________________________________
This evasion assumes that any astral appearances that don't fit the New Age Ghetto's preconceptions must be cases of spirit impersonation!  The claim stoops to the paralllel argument of some in the Fundamentalist Ghetto that any astral appearances that don't fit their preceptions must stem from demonic impersonators.  Both variations of this impersonation claim are designed to make verification, even in principle, impossible.  This ploy short-circuits any pretensions to an honest spiritual quest. 

But that is not what is most absurd about Hawkeye's backpedaling; he is critiquing the 10 paranormal experiences I cite from my 12, but invokes his New Age doctrine without even noting that only 2 of my 12 cases feature an apparition of Jesus!  Hawkeye's backpedaling blinds him to the fact that his revised theory no longer even addresses 10 of my 12 examples!  Duh!

Also, notice carefully that New Age fundamentalists constantly project their own propensity to pontificate on to me, someone who never pontificates about bilblical truth or the provabiility of his paranormal verifications.  I will continue to rub your nose in the irrationality of your rants until you display the ability or at least the inclination to offer reasoned positions.  Note that I always offer rationales for my positions, unlike my pontificating New Age friends.

Don    

Title: Re: hitler the second antichrist
Post by Beau on May 9th, 2010 at 10:00pm
Pontificate away Don, but you might find pornography more gratifying.

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