God used hitler to punish mankind for greed,and not helping the poor.Where much is given,much is required.George

Then did God use Stalin in the same way?
Stalin actually bumped off far more people than Hitler.
Just a thought.

David.

Yeah those two guys were a couple of real characters.

What are you saying George? That God thinks that Jews, Blacks, homosexuals, etc are all greedy? Perhaps God uses racists to show the rest of us what love and compassion is. What do you think? 

Yes,That could be.Did you watch tv lateley,and all the F words they use.The world is becoming an evil place to live.Could be that it is causing stock markets to fall over the world.man must change his ways and clean up it acts.

George,

I try to be honest instead of indulging in fake pleasantries, in both words and actions, many times not successful because faking is the easier road. Fake it long enough and fake also becomes what's expected of others. When the hammer hits the finger instead of the nail, all the flarn and darns ain't gonna keep any markets up, and the sun still shines. Birds chirp, while a cat kills a mouse. Coming from the heart doesn't always mean it's fluffy, like your statement, which to me is pretty ducked up. Friggen is evil, initial statement flipping good? If your god used hitler to punish mankind, then they have similar traits. Hitler made plans and didn't do the actual dirty work, like your god in the statement.

I confess. The other day I was down south aways, and I was walking into a department store to find a wayward relative who had to get a quick 10 minute 'shop' into the day. I rushed forward toward the automatic doors and tripped over the curb and stubbed my toe while continuing to rush forward, loudly cursing, and like a sailor, I might add. As I looked up I was walking right into the faces of a few toddlers who stared at me with open mouths, as if to say, what is this world coming to? Maybe you're right, George, maybe you're right.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure a curse word has nothing to do with evil unless you make it such. I curse very often and I definitely would not call myself evil. I do make sure to be respectful of others and aware of where I use my language, but in a relaxed setting I'm not very PC at all and I'm okay with that. I wouldn't focus on language as much as just committing a particular act. Mugging someone...that could be considered evil (though I think the word evil is very subjective).

You know, you can find just as many good things about the world as you can bad. I see many more good people than I do bad. There are the bad, but as far as my perception goes they're in a minority compared to all the people just trying to live a decent life.

Hitler was very psycric when he was young.he used to meditate a lot.he joyind the in the first world war.He was in a trench with other germans eating.than he heard a voice telling him to move and go around the end of the trench.as he sat down.he heard a boom go off.He got up and looked in where he had been,and saw all his friends had been killed.

Hitler survived for a reason and all of us are just going to have to live with it. He may have been a very creepy character, but he brought the world together for a common good  even though he was not really a part of that good. If everyone was perfectly nice this would be a pretty shitty place to live in my opinion. I like a little controversy in my world. It lets me know I'm alive.

What do you think George..Is that preacher and his congregation who protest at the funerals of dead soldiers, saying that God hates them, and that they are fags and stuff..is he right?

Oh the Westboro Baptist Church? Talk about some backwards folks. They have some serious, serious issues.

Hawkeye,God dose not hate them.They are well looked after they die,both sides.

Your right there George. God doesn't hate them.  (The Westboro bozos) Just like he doesn't hate Hitler. Just like he doesn't hate you or I. Nor does he hate Muslims, Jews, Blacks, Whites, perverts, murders, or anyone else. Well except Dr Phil. No,... probably not even him. Well, I'm no God thats for sure. By the way, God doesn't hate soldiers or "fags" either. (Please excuse the wording)

I am not a bundle of sticks, so I take no offence at the "f*g" remark. Nor Am I a cigarette, but I may have one as it's been a long day.

I guess God loves us enough so we have free will.  It is a matter of us learning to use it in a wise and loving way.

Regarding purification of the human race, in a sense, isn't this what changes are about? Some sources state that people who can't handle the increased vibrational rate will be removed from this earth in some way.

In some ways, this seems like a good idea.

When I look out the window of an airplane, I wonder how many people below have to suffer in some way, because there are many people who don't care about anybody but me, myself, and I. Perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to harm others and moved elsewhere.

It would be nice to be able to look out of an airplane window and regardless of what the scenery looks like, know that everybody is happy and treated with love and respect.

I love that Albert, very nice. I do the same thing when I look out of an airplane or a car.

Beau:

I basically do so when I travel to another place. What's going on for the people is more important than what the scenery looks like.



Beau wrote on May 4^th, 2010 at 3:58am:

I love that Albert, very nice. I do the same thing when I look out of an airplane or a car.

yeah, right and my girlfriend says I don't appreciate beauty of nature but the beauty of the people is overwhelming sometimes.

Hitler is a perfect example of fear. Hitler was afraid of everyone and everything. Everyone became his enemy. If you let fear rule and control you.... everything that you are will come to disaster during your human life.

Quote Recoverer:
"I guess God loves us enough so we have free will."

I guess God loves us enough to have given us cause and effect. If cause and effect is an illusion, then there's only the moment, and then, when there is no past, no future, there is freedom. But it's not "free will", as there would be no person then (since a person is history dependant), and no will (as well history dependant).

Just a reminder.

Spooky

Hmmm...I gotta think that one through spooky. Pretty good. Maybe not.

Spooky:

I figure we act according to what we know. For example, a person will choose a negative way of life because he doesn't understand that a life based on love is much more preferable. Once he (his soul) reaches the point where he understands that a love based approach is preferable, he'll make a comparison and choose accordingly.

I figure it's okay if a particular circumstance involves a limited amount of data that determines a limited number of possibilities, as long as I'm not attached to any of the data in a way that prevents me from considering all of the data in a wise way.

I believe what truly matters is that we find a way of existence where we can be truly happy for the rest of eternity. I figure that love and peace will be amongst the data that make a truly worthwhile eternal existence possible.

It doesn't matter if possibilities other than the data I'm dealing with exist, because the zen thing to do is to drink water when you drink water, without worrying about things that have nothing to do with what you're doing. After all, life is an experience, not an intellectual exercise.

On the one hand all of time happens simultaneously. On the other hand, a chronological order exists. For example, I couldn't write my response to your post until "after" you wrote it.

I figure that the only way God could allow us to have free will is to allow us to find out how to have it in our own way, rather than downloading a program into us that already has all of the answers. With his approach we have to take some lumps along the way, but at least ways we find our way more and more as we free ourselves from the lesson plan that initially binds us but eventually helps us become wiser. I say this with the thought that we can't find out what the creative possibilities are, without getting involved with them.

Perhaps this is a better choice than sticking to pure awareness and denying what the creative aspect of our being has to offer. It leads up to many beautiful and wonderful things, including beings who love each other.







spooky2 wrote on May 4^th, 2010 at 9:32pm:

Quote Recoverer: "I guess God loves us enough so we have free will." I guess God loves us enough to have given us cause and effect. If cause and effect is an illusion, then there's only the moment, and then, when there is no past, no future, there is freedom. But it's not "free will", as there would be no person then (since a person is history dependant), and no will (as well history dependant). Just a reminder. Spooky

What does one do about all those who supported him, ignored him, directly or indirectly allowed him to get away with mayhem?? :o

Or what does one do about those who deny the holocaust?? :'(

Since it's possible that indeed we are all one, what did/do we learn? :-/

Jean

I think he is assigned a character to play on this stage and unless he can remember that he is also the actor he wrecks havoc on the whole world. There are a lot of prime examples of this not just SHitler.

Jean wrote on May 5^th, 2010 at 4:17pm:

What does one do about all those who supported him, ignored him, directly or indirectly allowed him to get away with mayhem?? :o Understand them. Understand that 'they' are us. Understand that it is in our nature to be naive, indifferent, careless followers of what is false. Or what does one do about those who deny the holocaust?? :'( Understand that it is difficult to look at the truth. Since it's possible that indeed we are all one, what did/do we learn? :-/ That personal freedom is our only choice. Jean

Hitler was a character too who was not real in touch with his higher self, I guess. I guess he didn't make the jump from Monkey to man with the rest of us.

b2,

Amen, Amen, Amen.

Jean :-*

The people that followed Hitler were afraid. They were afraid of Hitler, they were afraid of Jews, and they were afraid of being different. Therefore, due to fear, they all "conformed" and did terrible things.

The people that stood up to fear and refused were rewarded....

with death.

Those that stood up were afraid, but they knew that they had to stand up and fight that fear. Sadly, many chose to instead let the fear lead them and control them, giving themselves to the fear. Doing great evil.

yes, the pack mentality of humanity is a very scary thing sometimes, J.

Yes, and it hasn't changed much. So we have to be watchful. Not only watchful about "the society", but as well about ourself.

Spooky

Didn't the Bushs and the Republican party attempt to do the same thing with the stories of WMD at the time of the first gulf war? Now the push is against Muslims instead of Jews. Not much seems to have been learned at all.

Bush will get his yet and Cheney, Lord knows he's over.