What is a soul?  Is it possible to see a soul from our human perspective?  I have no illusions about being able to fully understand all a soul is and can be, but I would like to see a soul and to know it was a soul when I saw it.

Some of my experiences have enabled me to see "from" my soul wherein I saw everywhere around me simultaneously...both "seeing" and "understanding" everything that surrounded me with no directional issues whatsoever.  While this occurred I also got a momentary dose of the emotions my soul was expressing...complete, total, pure, unconditional love; absolute elation and even a little anticipation.  It was for an extremely brief moment but what I got was truly overwhelming.  Add to that an indescribable feeling of being everywhere and anywhere simultaneously and instantaneously.

While meditating in review of past lives I see the person I was in that prior life through the eyes of my soul.  I can see both the incarnate being and what the being sees through his own eyes, simultaneously.  The soul receives every sensory impression the incarnate being receives, as well as the thoughts and emotions of the being in response to those impressions.  Further, the soul also takes note of the impressions being received by the being that it cannot or has not processed, and which could have benefitted the being in that life. 

As our own worst critics, there are times when the incarnate being's actions made a choice which had not benefitted itself in some clear way...the picture slowed down to emphasize the action and the feeling of love and calm became very powerful...I got the sense I was being told that the choice was made due to the being's limited scope of knowledge of the circumstances and there would be opportunities to work on it further.

If, as I understand it, the soul can collect all the experiential information stated above for an entire lifetime, that alone is an enormous quantity of data.  If the soul has done that for each of it's earthly incarnations as a human being, and if that has happened in excess of 4,000 times (as I have been told I have lived), then the quantity of experiential data held by a soul is simply unimaginable.

With what I saw, or more likely, what I could comprehend, I got no sense of size or scale of the soul energy I was viewing from.  I have been told both that "souls are really, really big!" and that "your soul would fill this room (12x16x10) and it would be as dense as sand...every grain of sand being a conscious portion of your energy". 

I understand that as energy in motion, a soul can manifest itself in any form it wishes, from its favorite age as a particular incarnated human being, to what I have heard is it's natural form...a pear-shaped orb of energy radiating an aura of colored light with two dark concentrations of energy toward the top that appear as eyes.  Beyond this, I assume that as incarnate human beings, we will obtain no answers until such time as we resume our place within our souls...at which time our curiosity will become moot, other than an internal memory of our curiosity while incarnate.

One other observation...during each of my opportunities to view events through my soul's eyes, and for a period of time thereafter, I was filled with an amazing level of love, well-being and complete understanding of any and everything...and a senes of effortlessness.

Thats what I've gotten and would like to hear what anyone else has found.    

From your own experiences, and your use of the word "soul" it seems to me "soul" means feelings and knowledge without a body. This would imply you can't perceive another soul (your soul here, another soul over there), you only could melt with another soul, but then it won't be an other soul anymore.

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2010 at 6:04pm:

From your own experiences, and your use of the word "soul" it seems to me "soul" means feelings and knowledge without a body. This would imply you can't perceive another soul (your soul here, another soul over there), you only could melt with another soul, but then it won't be an other soul anymore. Spooky

I have only percieved my soul from within looking out...whether there was a "physical body" of the soul I couldn't tell, while there was an unbelieveable quantity of feeling and knowledge...the level that gives hope to the hopeless, and any other superlatives you can imagine.  As for seeing other souls, I could see other "beings" around the human beings i have observed...some like humans though larger and somehow obviously greater than human...some were really large like towering over the being and others were ethereal and wispy.  I never got the impression that they were cast in their natural shape, but rather were "on the job" fulfilling whatever role they were playing at the time. 

The only impression I have gotten with a soul merger was a brief envelopment but the intensity blinked me out and I "came to" in the middle of a view of another incarnation...other souls are out there and we can see them, we just cannot see all of them and in their natural appearance.  Or so I have seen...

Thanks for the comments, Spooky.

I don't think of the soul or my soul to be separate from me. I am my soul and it is me. You don't become the soul in death. You simply shed and transform. Is the caterpillar really separate from the butterfly?

Quote usetawuz:
"some like humans though larger and somehow obviously greater than human..."

Funny, when I once asked for a contact to my higher self, I found me in the middle of a stadium, and many people stood there in a row just to greet me, one after another. And the first ones were humanoid, but clearly taller than normal and with a bony and round head.

What I meant with my previous post was, I think there is a difference between perceiving a person, may it be in the physical or in the astral, with an astral body, or "perceiving" a soul, and regarding the latter, given the soul is the very essence, it is without a body, without something to perceive, but only to "share".

Spooky

Hi

Spooky, you said "....you only could melt with
another soul, but then it won't be an other soul
anymore. "
Since we have read about and perhaps experienced these 'soul melds,' we can ask 'what is the potential (or purpose?) of a soul
that can blend with another and become something else? Does it become less, or more, than when it stands alone?

Bets

usetawuz,

Have you ever considered the possibility that there is no time, so like the present? In other words all your incarnations are taking place all at the same time and you are being given this grand opportunity to relate with them as their lives are actually happening. No future, no past ...only NOW. This is an idea that was hard for me to wrap my mind around at first but Campbell talks about it and so does Peter Russell. It's a very interesting concept as it takes the character out of the incarnation equation and places emphasis on the Actor Self.

In other words, Scott, we are multiple beings arranged by our higher selves which is really the ONE which is not separate. We are the characters and so are the other embodiments...all happening at the same time because our understanding of time is linear this is a hard idea to express.

Peace and love buddy,

Your,
Beau

Bets wrote:
"Since we have read about and perhaps experienced these 'soul melds,' we can ask 'what is the potential (or purpose?) of a soul
that can blend with another and become something else? Does it become less, or more, than when it stands alone?"

It seems like the term "soul" only has a meaning when it's seen in opposition to "body". The difficulty now is, when we focus on the soul, what it is, we come in calamities as without it's opposite term it seems to vanish somehow. When we think of a "pure" soul, it's difficult to find words which can describe it, words as "less" or "more" are so attached to matter and spatial extension. I even guess that when we actually talk about a pure soul, there would be only one of it. It seems the less pure a soul is in the sense of a higher relationship to a body/matter, the higher is it's locality, the lower it's radius of connectedness. The lowest stadium would be like a total shutdown, a total inwardness.

Beau wrote:
"No future, no past ...only NOW."
Well, the past isn't anymore, and the future isn't yet. The future even will never come. As when it's there, it's the present. So, there is no past, but only memories; to memorize something is a process within the present. As well as having prospects, too, is something within the present. "The past" and "the future" seem to be noun forms of such verbs as "memorize" and "prospect", and these noun forms suggest that it is "there" somehow.

Spooky

Very insightful Spooky. I like the memorize prospect concept. I never thought of it before...cool.

spooky2 wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2010 at 8:22pm:

Quote usetawuz: "some like humans though larger and somehow obviously greater than human..." Funny, when I once asked for a contact to my higher self, I found me in the middle of a stadium, and many people stood there in a row just to greet me, one after another. And the first ones were humanoid, but clearly taller than normal and with a bony and round head. What I meant with my previous post was, I think there is a difference between perceiving a person, may it be in the physical or in the astral, with an astral body, or "perceiving" a soul, and regarding the latter, given the soul is the very essence, it is without a body, without something to perceive, but only to "share". Spooky

A stadium with all the "characters" you have ever been might be an incredibly descriptive view of who you are, who your soul is,  in a figurative sense...I am always amazed at the differing variety and ways a simple question can be answered...especially by those who know more what we are asking than we do...that is absolutely fantastic, Spooky.

I think you are right in that perceiving a body may be all that we can see, while a soul, which infuses the body, is not visible to our human senses.

Beau wrote on Apr 24^th, 2010 at 4:28am:

usetawuz, Have you ever considered the possibility that there is no time, so like the present? In other words all your incarnations are taking place all at the same time and you are being given this grand opportunity to relate with them as their lives are actually happening. No future, no past ...only NOW. This is an idea that was hard for me to wrap my mind around at first but Campbell talks about it and so does Peter Russell. It's a very interesting concept as it takes the character out of the incarnation equation and places emphasis on the Actor Self. In other words, Scott, we are multiple beings arranged by our higher selves which is really the ONE which is not separate. We are the characters and so are the other embodiments...all happening at the same time because our understanding of time is linear this is a hard idea to express. Peace and love buddy, Your, Beau

Yes Beau...I have thought about the idea that there is no time except in this three dimensional illusion...that the dimension is wrapped around our souls in a spiral in ascending "time" or event order...each of our "characters" are then active at the same time, each one living its experiences in their specific slot on the spiral, each one in constant contact and sharing experiences with the actor/soul and each of the other characters. 

This gets beyond my ability to reconcile the whole system, although to some people the idea of "no time" except while incarnate is second nature...I haven't read enough, nor have I obtained the level of understanding necessary to be able to conceive a coherent model..."time will tell!"   

Alan McDougall

The Soul in relation to the Cosmic Mind by Alan McDougall

The brain is not the soul of mind, it is the hard drive, the processor of your mortal body. The mind download constantly onto the brain right up to death and a little beyond and that is why some of us remember events from a near death experience

The “the Soul” personalized is an infinitesimal part of God in man. Just as a drop of water from the ocean has all the ingredients in the ocean, this “the Soul” has all the powers of God.

However, just as a drop of water from the ocean does not make up the ocean, the “the Soul” of one person does not make up God’s “the Soul”. All the drops joined together become the ocean; all the “the Soul’s in the universe together make up God’s Cosmic Soul”.

The Soul” is the source of all happiness, all misery, health, and disease, abundance and lack, riches and poverty, joy and sorrow. As the greatest

Our “Soul” is a microcosm and creates the macrocosm universe and more until it all consolidates into the godhead.

If you experience these things then you have an eternal soul, do you think a state of soullessness emptiness exists in you?

If you do you must and would die. By that I mean your physical body will die, because it is your soul or mind that sustains it as one harmonious organism

Like a laser beam, “the Soul” can focus its attention on the smallest atom or see the whole universe as if it is a speck. “The Soul” can become part of the environment and embrace the entire cosmos.

I know this is true, because when I died during my NDE I became god for a few wonderful inexplicable moments outside of linear time and space.

The speed of thought is more than the speed of light. In a millisecond, “the Soul” can reach the farthest galaxy, billions of light years away.

It is instantaneous and unlimited by space or time. For example, the precocious genius Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart said that he could hear a musical work as a single event and not successively.

What is thought what consciousness is??

What “the Soul” is and where it is situated has been debated for centuries. Rarely two philosophers agree on one definition or location for “the Soul”.

Rene Descartes, French philosopher, scientist, and mathematician said that there is a total and absolute distinction between mental and material substance and that “the Soul” he said situated in the pineal gland. I disagree the soul is a quantum energy field hovering around our body, especially the head area near the brain and many see it as an aura

“The Soul” is non material and cannot become part of a material such as the brain, pineal gland or amygdala.

We can go through every nerve cell, analyze electrochemically, spectroscopically, mass-photographically, electronically, and, using all known tests, we will not find any indication of “the Soul”.

There is no single location for the “the Soul”. The human “the Soul” is distributed throughout the human body and its environment.

Every cell has its own “the Soul” and has the ability to function independently or jointly with all the cells of the body.

For example, a neuron is capable of deciding whether it will transmit information to another nerve cell and, if it will, to which one among the thousands of cells with which it is in contact.

Similarly, endocrine cells decide whether they will respond to a demand for a particular enzyme by cells in another far corner of the body.

Even sponge cells exhibit a similar capacity of awareness. When a piece of sponge is ground up and individual cells are suspended in solution, they will come together and become a complete sponge within a few hours.

This indicates that each cell has a “Soul” of its own to decide to combine with another sponge cell and with which of the thousands of cells floating in solution.

Just as each of the thousand pieces of a splintered mirror will show the same reflection of an object as the whole mirror, each cell reflects our “the Soul” and each cell in the universe we humans etc, reflects the Universal Soul called by us as God

By Alan McDougall

Scott,

To say there is no time outside of 3 dimensions would mean that in dreams there is no time and of course there is a sense of time it just passes much slower there. Campbell talks about this and it makes sense. Without time all stands still.

I like your initial description here on the thread, Usetawuz. It is a pretty clear view of some states I have entered in which I accessed a series of perspectives and even emotions which I had no idea I was capable of experiencing. There is a 'bigness' to our being and our 'feelings' which is rarely experienced when concentrating on one aspect of the material world, which we are often doing. There is a hugeness and a lovingness and absolute 'forgiveness' which this larger 'being' expresses, and an understanding which is beyond any petty version of our smaller truths. Of this I am sure. This 'being' is capable of understanding the smallest of our experiences and putting them in context within a time 'frame' which corresponds to our ability to understand. Deep meditation is different from a 'dream' in that emotions are clarified for us, rather than misunderstood or 'acted' upon. We have 'bigger' emotions which we can use to motivate us toward healing the planet because we all have within us the capacity to 'care' far beyond what we see or describe as our everyday lives and 'selves'. That is my view.

wrote on May 3^rd, 2010 at 7:34am:

I like your initial description here on the thread, Usetawuz.  There is a 'bigness' to our being and our 'feelings' which is rarely experienced when concentrating on one aspect of the material world, which we are often doing. There is a hugeness and a lovingness and absolute 'forgiveness' which this larger 'being' expresses, and an understanding which is beyond any petty version of our smaller truths. Of this I am sure. This 'being' is capable of understanding the smallest of our experiences and putting them in context within a time 'frame' which corresponds to our ability to understand.

Exactly, b2..."bigness" is a great term...something so much more than anything I can consistently conceive.  I only get glimpses of it when conscious, and those vignettes are staggering.  While in meditation it feels like home and so expansive and large, not just what appears around me but all I feel and think, simultaneously, that when I reopen my eyes I am surprised by the reduced scale of all I see. 

For me the soul is that part of me that perceived being in a work type setting surrounded by multiple loving individuals that were glad to see me. We continued working on this important project that had something or many things to do with here. The beauty of this experience was that I sensed no time passing, just being involved in the experience, till I was told that it was time to return here. I felt a bit disappointed but realized that work here or there, either way, is important. I do remember feeling a bit mischeivious so I laughenly request a message to take back here with me and it was granted. It was later verified by another individual, that I valued very much on this plane, by having it repeated back to me. This experience/”dream” occurred while in a morphine coma undergoing operations on my hemorrhaging left lung. The funny part was when I realized that my life being “saved” was more of a decision made by me and whoever on the other plane and not by the medical staff here. They only had the power to do a wonderful job of repair and care but I didn't believe that they were the ones to decide whether or not I would be returning. I have all of the hospital medical records and hand written notes done by my 3 sons and 3 brothers in my possession now as well as my posts on hard copy just to verify for myself what all happened during this time back in May of 2006. It's amazing how many different perceptions of this same incident with my Valley Fever lung.  Now it's 4 years later, yet, the experience remains just as vivid for me.

Jean 

I think it's important that we remember that we are dreaming even now in C1...and that the other reality frames are compliments to this grand dream.

Vagabound:
I've had some impressions of other lives (or, it seems so) sometimes they were very emotional. I found some were of very different personality types than my personality today, but I always found a trait, or a similarity in these lives matching with mine, here and now.
    I think it's good to live in the certainty that such backviews are no longer necessary. After some thinking about my experiences with these other lives of mine I have come to the paradox conclusion that these "memories" helped me, but at the same time I should not stick with them. Because that exactly is the problem. The repeating. One thinks, one has to fulfill one's task. Be it to maintain father's business, be it to continue one's reincarnational story. This will go on until you say "no, I from now on focus on what is now" .

Jean:
Hi, I remember you ;).
What you told, one could say it's "where you are, there are you, and there's nothing beyond". As when one really is where one is, then there is nothing beyond.

Spooky

Perhaps, the soul is the 'place' where you meet yourself. Where you know all 'things' come together for the good of all.

I don't know how to explain this.

These 'travels' which I recently completed included a visit to the 'other half' -- some relatives where the 'other half' lives. This is a small 'slice' of heaven, where only one road is left, one dirt road, full of people who have refused to 'join the others' -- and these folks drink their well water in good health.

They have a beautiful beach there, nearby, and dogs who run freely up and down the 'block'. They tell their stories, of their ancestors, over and over, and cherish their history. The 'wilderness' that once existed around the pond there, noisy with life, has disappeared. The horses left nearby are used on the weekends for children's parties. They are 'shadows' of their former selves. But, still, the turtles come up from the canal to lay their eggs in the back yard.

Through the window of the white room where I stayed, the sunlight came, where I knelt after bathing in front of an open suitcase in the closet. My hair was still up. Directly in front of me I saw a clear 'reflection' of the window, with the bars across it, and a 'shadow' of myself, kneeling there. My head was in full silhouette, and I looked exactly like a buddha. Like a statue, sitting there.

As I looked at this 'shadow' person, the words of a picture I have floated through my mind: Your mind creates this world.

Have you met your buddha today? That one, who knows you best. That one.

Spooky,
And I'm very glad I'm here & glad u r 2. Got clearance today regarding my lung-so it looks like I'll be here in the earth sense for a while too. The board triggers more of the contemplation I enjoy.
Love, Jean :-* ;D

spooky2 wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2010 at 8:22pm:

Funny, when I once asked for a contact to my higher self, I found me in the middle of a stadium, and many people stood there in a row just to greet me, one after another. And the first ones were humanoid, but clearly taller than normal and with a bony and round head. Spooky

I woke up this morning thinking of the image this conveys, Spooky.  Inside a stadium, and how many people standing in line to greet you?  Did they fill the stadium?  Were some of them simply watching or was everyone there making your acquaintance?  Once again, this image is so clear and simple to me..."who and what is your soul?"  "Well, here you go...do you want to meet yourself chronologically or alphabetically?!"

During meditation I asked myself how I got here.  I was instantly conscious of space and stars surrounding me...visible from everywhere...immense sense of love, warmth, calm, kindness, compassion...then there was a pop, and I saw a baby held in the arms of a nurse and was told "That's how you got here...that is you!"  A simple answer to the exact question I asked.

   

I can't remember clearly whether the audience area was filled or not; at least, there wasn't a feeling of empty- or lonelyness you would have if there would be no one in the audience area of a stadium. I was down at the playfield of the stadium, together with that croud which queued up to greet me. I had a clear sense that those who first greeted me were the most "ancient". A strong impression of a chronologic order. Of course reincarnation comes into mind, but it wasn't that definite; it was more they were different persons than me, but at the same time they shared something with me, something essential. With the later persons who greeted me in that row it was easier for me to pick up impressions of their lives, while the first ones were mysterious. And they all were there to greet me, no one was there just hanging around. They all knew why they were there. Space and stars were the background of that scene.

Spooky