I've been thinking a little about the concepts surrounding reincarnation and especially the idea of soul mates. Technically a soul mate would be part of the ensemble cast of your life. These are all the people which have the biggest impact on each other. So I was thinking that if these people keep showing up in each others lives, that their might have to be a time limit on their reincarnation (despite the relevance of time in the afterlife.)

But lets say one or more of the cast members die and theres still a good amount of time for the rest to keep doing their thing. Maybe the ones that die get to hang out and experience the wonderful place that is the afterlife until the rest of the cast can bow together. They're backstage so to speak. Then once the ensemble is back together, they take a bow, and all return for a new performance. Or only some of them do if required.

Or maybe they reincarnate when they want and just come back into our lives at different ages. Like lets say Sally and Joe are married. Sally dies before Joe. Joe lives for another 20 years, dies, checks out the Afterlife and then reincarnates. His mom is 20 years old and happens to be the incarnation of Sally.

Kind of weird but i'll bite on the idea. Or maybe Sally waits for Joe and they reincarnate together so they can find love again. I like that scenario better. I'd personally prefer to have a soul mate which is also my partner/love mate for eternity, but we can't have everything we want. Or can we?

Dun dun dun.

Yes we can have everything that way.
With soul mates, you can have differing relationships in various lives: spouses in one life, siblings in another, parents in yet another. That way you get to experience all the types of relationships available in your group.
So (and I'm taking hypothetically here of course) you may find that you're very protective of your husband/wife/lover in this life because you have a soul memory of being a mother/father to them in a previous lifetime.
Anything is possible.
Mind you, then there's the question of twin souls, which is supposed to be the other half of you. Maybe at the deepest level that's the one that we all search for -the missing counterpart of ourself.
Check out Shirley Maclaine's Out on a Limb p.200 for an explanation of the difference between the two. This gave me a lightbulb moment and healed three years of pain trying to deal with someone who I thought had been my twin soul, but wasn't. Just someone I had lots of karmic baggage with from previous lives. Once I understood the way that works I could finbally move on and be healed on  that score.

Best wishes,
David.

I think the cast party starts the minute you get there and everyone still waits on the "late" arrivals. Maybe that's why we say "the late so and so". In other words the party is going on all the time.

And I don't feel we are at all separate from the higher self. It is us. We are the world. Kinda like that.

detheridge wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 3:35am:

Yes we can have everything that way. With soul mates, you can have differing relationships in various lives: spouses in one life, siblings in another, parents in yet another. That way you get to experience all the types of relationships available in your group. So (and I'm taking hypothetically here of course) you may find that you're very protective of your husband/wife/lover in this life because you have a soul memory of being a mother/father to them in a previous lifetime. Anything is possible. Mind you, then there's the question of twin souls, which is supposed to be the other half of you. Maybe at the deepest level that's the one that we all search for -the missing counterpart of ourself. Check out Shirley Maclaine's Out on a Limb p.200 for an explanation of the difference between the two. This gave me a lightbulb moment and healed three years of pain trying to deal with someone who I thought had been my twin soul, but wasn't. Just someone I had lots of karmic baggage with from previous lives. Once I understood the way that works I could finbally move on and be healed on  that score. Best wishes, David.

David, that is the way I see it.  My wife was my mother the last time we were together...I am not sure how I would have felt about that had I known before she married me!  My ex fiance in this life was my sister in that life...hmmm, my ex fiance was my current wife's daughter...this soul-mate stuff is really interesting...my dad was my brother last time around, while my son was my best friend! 

How did you figure all that out?

StoneColdTrue wrote on Apr 19^th, 2010 at 5:36pm:

How did you figure all that out?

I initially wondered why I developed relationships with some people and not others...some were easy and others took real work...some we picked up where we left off (even sometimes over two decades), and often on first meeting them it was as if we were picking up where we left off, while with others it was like having to get to know them each time we met.  Some women I'd date came to me as if called, while others took tremendous effort to even talk to (despite a strong physical attraction).  So this was what I had rolling around in my head for years.

I had a visitation/vision/lucid (while awake) dream, or something that I have described elsewhere on this site, that caused me to begin to read and research exactly what we have been discussing here.  My initial desire was to find out why a certain woman had had such a strong impression on me so quickly 18 years ago, and also, why she had come back energetically all those years later.  So that is where my search began...instead of a mid-life crisis, I became spiritual, searching for answers. 

I spoke with many psychics and akashic readers, and was surpised at their consistency and desire to help.  I was able to catalog a series of former lives, but only those which were germaine to the matters I am facing in this life, so that left an enormous void for which I must research myself.  However, I found that while they were seeing real stuff, they could only interpret through the glasses of their own experience as to what they were seeing and only by doing it myself could I get the clearest messages regarding what I was looking for.  They all told me that I needed to learn how to do it myself...so I did.  Now I only call "my readers" when I need confirmation of what I have found for myself.

When something reveals itself to you, whether it is something you read which resonates, some situation that "miraculously" comes together, or a person that strikes you differently, either good or bad, there is a reason or purpose behind it.  I then meditate on it to review its reason for affecting me, and seek to be taken to when it was significant to me then and now.

One thing to be aware of about past lives...they can be tremendously compelling, but their significance is only in the value they can provide for your current life...if they can provide wisdom to assist you with matters you face now, good...otherwise they are simply a curiosity.  And while I have spent alot of time seeing how the previous lives that have significance for me now can help me, the others lose their attraction...its kind of weird, but its like someone says "You don't need this now."  Guidance looking out for me again.

PM if you have any specific questions...I hope this helps.

To be honest when it comes to past lives and spirit guides... if that's all the person I am paying can talk about I want my money back. I need a spiritual medium and information I can truly test and verify. Just because I can relate to "some" of the things they mention about past lives means nothing scientific. Although, information regarding past away loved ones is much more verifiable and relative to my current life.

There is a HUGE room for fake hullabaloo when you start bringing "past lives" into the conversation.....

Thanks for the reply. I'm not really sure if I care to ever find out what my past lives were like if I had any. Or rather, I'm only slightly interested in what I was like but more interested as to who was significant then and who is significant now. Like to see which people in my life now are my soul mates. A few I suppose I already know to be just because of our connection. I've definitely got one of those brotherhood like friendships of several males, neither of us really capable of imagining belonging to any other group.

There is one big question on my mind and it involves a girl. I can't figure out why I can't let her go in my mind. I want to and she really has given me no reason to want to keep her around. It feels like this subconscious infatuation. Long story short I became friends with her two years ago, developed a big crush on her, she wasn't really into me that way and liked my best friend, she "got around" with a lot of guys and made a mess of her life to the point that no one respected her, she used my friendship to her advantage and then just moved to another state. I went through a period where I despised her as a person and then later on didn't really care so much because her life is her own.

But there shouldn't be any reason for me to still think about her. I haven't seen her in almost two years and I've grown up since then. It's just weird. Even weirder is that her roommate in the state she moved to has moved back here and become regularly associated with my group of friends, and I heard the other day that this girl was moving back as well. Part of me would rather just never see or think about her again, and another part won't let that happen. I can't make sense of it and my new spirituality says there may be more to it.

I guess I'm just going to relax and see how it plays out. It's probably just that I never completely got over her and seeing her again may allow me to do that.

yeah seeing an old flame works one way or the other with me. Either I'm totally back where I was with them or I have gained a whole new dimension on the situation.

I had a girlfriend in college and I REALLY loved her, but she had strong religious convictions that I couldn't really engage, but to be with her I started learning to Catholic. After a few months she came home in tears to tell me that she had fallen for her leading man in the play she was doing....well, the same thing has happened to me before too, so how could I judge her, but I was devastated for a few years. I still love the way I felt when i was around her, but I do I love her?...well, I don't know her anymore and she married the guy and is now a famous author so what is one to say. It all worked out for her and I am very happy for that. I would say my loss was her gain but truly my life has been about trying to come to terms with religious people. I really want to. My current gf and my ex wife are both devout christians, but it's just not my path. I see Jesus very differently ...but I see Jesus ...somehow I see him and that's even with no Jesus moment in my life EVER.

StoneColdTrue wrote on Apr 19^th, 2010 at 11:53pm:

"...more interested as to who was significant then and who is significant now. Like to see which people in my life now are my soul mates. A few I suppose I already know to be just because of our connection. I've definitely got one of those brotherhood like friendships of several males, neither of us really capable of imagining belonging to any other group." "There is one big question on my mind and it involves a girl."

Precisely the reasons I went in the directions I have...why and how those in your life fit in while others simply do not.  Some enter your life with complete comfort and ease, while others just do not click with you...they are not bad people, and they seem nice enough...sometimes there is just nothing there.  I wanted to know why.  I have found everyone close to me has had prior lifetimes with me and we have played various roles with each other. 

As an example, it is not necessary to know that your best friend was an identical twin in a prior life, but it makes sense when the two of you, to a remarkable level, speak, do, like, and see everything the same way...(this guy was born five days before me, his mom is a teacher, his dad is an airline pilot, he was raised presbyterian, became a lawyer,  married a catholic girl after going out with her for years, has a daughter and a son, likes cooking, fine wine, and surfs...all of which is true for me too (except for being born five days later)).  We met as if we had just spoken the day before and have been best friends ever since.  Why?  As identical twins in a prior lifetime we played twin games on people,  exchanging identities at will...the images I have received range from amusing to almost creepily Machiavellian.

Likewise, while the above was realized at a later date, my enlightenment began because of a woman...the ex-fiance hadn't been heard from in 18 years and then "the vision"...thus began my search for her signifcance and why I might be hearing from her energetically.  She is another prominent soul mate and she had contracted with me prior to this lifetime to steer me in this direction...she was the "bait" that would open my eyes to the path and goals I had chosen for this life.  She will have no further interaction with me in this lifetime, and she has played her role perfectly, following the script exactly as we had planned.

For me, past lives and understanding how this "system" of reincarnation works has provided answers to questions that had been keeping me up at night.  The research is a tool, a means to an end, not the end in itself.  The issues you find most troubling now may be resolved through a broader perspective, or seeing how it was or was not dealt with in a prior lifetime.  It has worked that way for me.  As I arrived at my answers, everything else seemed to fall into place and my direction for this lifetime became clearer.  Do not forget that everything you do is to benefit this lifetime and to enhance how you play it. 

If this method of attaining peace of mind and understanding works for you I am happy to have helped.  However, I in no way intend to tell you or anyone this is THE WAY, but rather a way that I have found effective. 

Love and light...       

Do you think its possible that we have a choice whether to live our life from a script or to live it impromptu? I don't think living life from a script is all that unique or special. I'd rather believe my soul is experiencing life freshly and without preparation, or from a general plan but not every action and experience was written beforehand. So I figure maybe theres a choice. In that everyone who is completely content with a scripted life may indeed have one, and everyone not content is living impromptu of their choices because they believed the learning experience would be more successful that way. And the scripted ones wanted to insure their plan wasn't damaged.

Just a thought.

You know how your teacher gives you an essay assignment in school? I'd have to say it's more like that. Your Actor Self has something to learn just as teachers learn from their students essays.,,or should anyway. It's kind of free form expression, but there are lessons to be learned and everyone writes on a different subject but still following the rules the teacher laid down. If they don't they find out about it soon.

Right. That's how I believe it to be or would rather believe it to be. I don't see how anything could really learn if it already knows and plans the outcome.

"And in this part I will get hit by a car so that I learn not to cross streets without looking properly, and you will learn this because I was hit by the car, and this person will learn this..." which would basically mean the soul has already learned it, otherwise it wouldn't be able to create the plan. But if it says "well I didn't learn this in the last life or experience this and I would like to, so lets get a plan going and hope I make the right choices" then that makes sense.

Yes, we are on a Plan It for crying out loud==pun intended.  ;D

Beau wrote on Apr 21^st, 2010 at 12:16pm:

Yes, we are on a Plan It for crying out loud==pun intended.  ;D

Good job, Beau!

Stone, like the soul contracts...the lifeplan is a basic format your soul and soulmates put together prior to the upcoming life you will live with each other.  It isn't a specific date and time to step into the street to get hit by the bus, but rather if the plan (play?) required someone to take the fall which would benefit several other souls (actors?) by dying early, whether stepping in front of a bus, or tripping over a rake and hitting their head on a bench, any of those opportunities and many more can become a high probability for that soul's life...his role may be more planned out than the others who must use their free will to determine how they deal with the loss. 

A real life example was the young man who surprisingly survived the oncampus shooting at Virginia Tech, only to die the next day in a car wreck on the way home from the hospital.  Even from a standard christian standpoint, everyone said it was "his time"...well, yeah, but who said it was "his time"?  While the christian will say "God said so", my feeling is that the young man planned it pre-birth with his soulmates.  I don't have any knowledge beyond hearing of the tragedy, getting a warm feeling and thinking "here is proof...". 

I do not believe that any life plan is ever made that requires individual incarnate beings to do anything specific, to perform in lockstep with any plan...it is all about free will.  And while each incarnate being has certain proclivities or predictable behavior, there is still a tremendous amount of room for extemporaneous activity of the individual.

So that's my take on it and I hope it helps.      

Life changes constantly with perception and it reacts to that perception. Like when my life was seemingly spiraling downward, I constantly had this thought that I was going to die young and probably within the next couple of years. It was a strong thought that felt like a very strong prediction. If I had stayed like I was, I think my prediction would have definitely come true. But once I turned my life around and found all these great reasons to live and live for other people, I lost that feeling of dying young and now perceive a pretty long life to get my goals achieved, and one of those goals it to definitely die as a grandfather.

There is one rule here and it is Golden. Any law otherwise breaks that rule ...poor Moses. ..burning bush indeed. "The plays the thing wherein I'll find the conscience of the king" ---Hamlet, William Shakespeare

Beau wrote on Apr 21^st, 2010 at 5:58pm:

There is one rule here and it is Golden. Any law otherwise breaks that rule ...poor Moses. ..burning bush indeed. "The plays the thing wherein I'll find the conscience of the king" ---Hamlet, William Shakespeare

Beau, we find all wisdom in Shakespeare, while Marlowe held the pen and the man from Avon had the name, which unfortunately, he couldn't spell...perfect cite, though, and as usual perfect metaphor...I love it.

yeah It's supposed to be "Wherein I'll CATCH the conscience of the king", but I took a touch of license in my approach I guess. I love Shakespeare, but I'd rather read him than see him butchered...lol. yeah it could have been Marlowe for sure. He was a spy stabbed in the eye. Ouch.