i realize there is no time as we know it in the afterlife, and i've read lots about what the afterlife is like, but i still find myself wondering about what my friends and family that have passed on are actually doing. while there is no time, there must be activities that have a beginning and an end. for example, someone may decide to swim in beautiful, warm waters, and then perhaps climb a mountain, or go to a concert, and then spend time with friends, etc.

has anyone in their travels gotten a sense of the "sequencing" of events in the afterlife?

I have wondered about this too. Everyone says time doesn't work the same way but is that actually felt? The only real thing that even gives us a sense of time is the changing of the day, changing of clocks, aging, etc. I suppose the sequencing of events remains the same but you completely lose concept of all time.

I can only imagine it being like when I tripped on psilocybin. I completely lost sense of time and never even considered of its existence much. There was one conscious thought where I felt like it had been night for an extremely long period of time and that the sun would never rise again. But really I was so involved in everything that was going on that the slowed down aspect of time in the physical world just had no barring on my mind. Its a difficult perception to describe.

I'll make one attempt. Imagine any point in your life where you were having fun doing something and did not want to stop. Your mind was completely enveloped in the activity. The only thing that probably even made you stop was the realization of the time, but really you felt you could have continued forever if you had not realized time and that you had other obligations. I imagine the Afterlife is like an eternal feeling of having fun and you never have to recognize time or any priorities or obligations. It's just a constant state of bliss and the activities are infinite.

Bird,

Perhaps an easier way to comprehend no time is to realize that of course there is time, but it is measured so differently from our C1 version of time that to us here it would appear that there is no time. As long as there is any seeming separation between entities there has to be a semblance of time. That's my take on it. I know we hear a lot about eternity but it must be more like cycles which would still involve some sense of time.

Bird,

I think the confusion comes in the understanding of what "no time" means.  What is time any way? 

My opinion?  It is what we use as a term to describe the flow of a sequence of events.  Time, perhaps, doesn't really exist anywere.  Perhaps what actually exists is just the events and sequences of events.

While we are focused within physical reality a sequence of events  appears to move only and always in one direction, from what we call the past, through the present, toward what we call the future.  While we are focused within nonphysical realities it is my opinion that it is this sequence of events being limited to "only and always" flowing in one direction that changes.  It isn't that time "doesn't exist" it is that we are not limited to experiencing events in that unidirectional way.  In a sense time There can move forward, backward, or not move at all.  Instead of being stuck with only and always in that one direction we are instead free to experience events in the past, present or future, free to experience sequences of events forward, backward, stopped or sideways (whatever sideways might mean) at will.

So what might folks in our afterlife be doing?  Activities, sequences of event, like the ones you describe.  Swimming, climbing a mountain, going to a concert, visiting with friends.  They could be doing any of these things but without the limitation of being forced to follow an arbitrary, single flow of events from one to the next.  A silly example could be that they are free to take a swim at a beach in the winter in Puerto Rico, switch to climbing a mountain in summer time in Colorado and attend a live Beatles concert in the 60s after that, all in the same "day."     In my opinion the old movie, Slaughter House 5, gives some clues about what some folks do when they become "unstuck in time.".

Bruce

I just saw that movie (Slaughterhouse Five, from 1972) a couple of weeks ago for the first time. I think that's just how it is in the afterlife, too. To become 'unstuck in time' is something I think we often do mentally, but are not aware of it. Perhaps, in the afterlife, it is just much bigger, and much better, and much clearer.

So far, we have only imagined time to be an external phaenomenon, like a movie you can play backwards.

Then there is the version where you yourself are more involved, like those stories where time paradoxa play a role (you go back in time, meet yourself or one of your ancestors and kill yourself or one of your ancestors).

But the most fundamental thing is our own time, appearing as our memory. If we then let time move backwards, your memories would decrease instead of increase. You would have an answer, and then the question. You would know everything "ahead" because your future now is your past. Instead of entropy you had negative entropy. If you let time stand still, you couldn't make it run again, because time stands still, and so does your thinking. Funny, huh?

Spooky

Putting these time issues aside for a moment I would like to say that how energy and the afterlife works is still a big huge question mark to me. If we are beings of energy in the afterlife then how long does an area such as a beach or place stay in existance and what other energy beings are subjected to the ability to see and exist in this same energy field? In what way are these energy created areas connected? Is it one big energy field world which is all connected much like the Earth of today? I would think not. I would see the after life as an EXTREMELY confusing Hodge podge of different areas created by consciousnesses and not all are even accessible because the creator will not let you.

Most likely you will start with blackness and a lot of confusion. Flashes of thoughts and memories and dreams as your mind attempts to understand what is going on. Then you will finally grab onto some place long enough for something to happen. Preferably a loved one which was waiting will sense this and step in. The strange hey so and so what the beeps going on conversation will take place, oh yeah your dead... etc. we are energy we can do anything... this place we are in you created from your mind... so then you say well let's see if I can do something else etc. I don't percieve a SOLID energy area existing where everyone can congregate all the time. Sure, I am sure there must be a place or two in existence where people come to meet and energy field imagine the area together but even then what each person perceives could in fact be a little different. It's gonna be super confusing.

I recommend dying and finding out for sure. Your not gonna understand it till then.

The idea of raising entropy by moving backward in time is interesting. I'm not sure that would be the case because the opportunity for growth spiritually might still exist though the past and future had switched poles or something. I am watching slaughter house 5 right now and I just watched Donnie Darko yesterday. I'm trying to form an opinion on this. I didn't really dream last night but I woke up with an understanding of time in layers that didn't move unless you thought your way through those layers either backward or forward almost like the levels of a river where it is colder as you approach the bottom of the river and warmer as you move to the top. Not sure exactly how it relates to moving through time, but if the consciousness is a constant and it is the experience that manifests a change I"m not sure the result would be higher entropy upon going back in time. I"m still working it out though through sci-fi as best I can.

Attend a live Beatles concert in the 60s? That would be awesome! But I'd remove all them crazy girls so I could hear the band.

:) I'm not sure that you could remove the girls and still have the phenomenon of The Beatles, since their energies relied on each other so!  :D

Bets

yes, the idea of seeing the beatles, or any other band i missed out on because i wasn't born early enough would be great, although would all bandmates have to be dead in order for  me to attend a concert in the afterlife? i'm hoping that by the time i die, most of the people that really matter to me will have moved on as well.

i think i have a much better understand of this concept of time after reading all these replies. thank you!

The Beatles exist as an entity in the afterlife, well physical matter reality or whatever BS word you want for your true life. The Beatles died in 1970.

All you need is love.

I'm all about seeing The Who circa 1970 if at all possible.

I'm all about seeing Elvis...even Costello (Hell is Cost, Hello?), or even dire straits at the beginning of their career...oh wait I already did that. Best Concert of my life.

Beau wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2010 at 10:24am:

I'm all about seeing Elvis...even Costello (Hell is Cost, Hello?), or even dire straits at the beginning of their career...oh wait I already did that. Best Concert of my life.

perhaps the best concert of your death, too!   :D

I just hope It's not my deaf, you know? Like a kinder gardener would say ;D

I just listened to the greatest CD of all time, by John Lennon. It's called Wonsaponatime and it says it all, baby. He really hits it on the head. Awesome.