I have read reports of mediums knowing when people are dying soon (weeks to months.) and I believe the sitters also have an inkling about this as well.

What do you guys think?

(When I think of my death, I get a feeling of a car accident and me dying horribly but fast because of no seat belt. I feel this happening but not for some years yet. I also get a feeling the accident isn't necessarily my fault.)

Hi Starcraft,

Thoughts of one's personal death are biggies. The topic gets ego and brain all riled up. I suspect it's the topic with the least credibility for prophecying.

Here are two examples I know of --

Several of us who worked together decided to go to the same 'fortune teller' in town who was getting a good reputation for accuracy. We made our appointments separately so she didn't know we knew each other. While later comparing our 'futures,' Gwen and I were surprised to find ours matched exactly. We both were to die in a hellish explosion of fire. About a year later the fortune teller died when her house blew up from a gas leak. Gwen and I are still fine.

Several decades later a new friend Crystal confided in me that she feared bringing children into the world because she expected it to blow up.  She had seen visions of it in flame and exploding and felt or assumed in the 1990's that it would happen around 2010-2012.
Later she did have a beautiful child however. I lost track of her but recently heard she was in a horrible car crash and tragically she later died from her injuries.

Any time we try to interpret our visions, there's the original info (that Bruce explains we get from the Perceiver) and then immmediately or even overlapping that, we start layering on our interpretation, (which Bruce explains happens when the Interpretor part of our consciousness gets involved.)
Both those women were accurate up to a point but what good did their partial information do them?

Bets
 

I spent a great deal of my life last year on the subject of death. At times I desired death but didn't have the courage to make it happen. I would instead wish to not wake up after sleeping. At this point in time I was very depressed and confused about life. I had come to a belief in my mind that I would die young regardless of it being my fault or not. However, I do not remember fearing death at all during this time. I was so unhappy with my life that I saw death as only a release. But even as I continued to live I had this feeling that I would not survive past my 20s, and I associated it with a car crash or a disease. (Very common causes of death)

At the beginning of this year many new thoughts, realizations, and questions entered my mind. I eventually found my way to a belief in spirituality and a curiosity for the Afterlife. As I thought more and researched, I found I could no longer accept that death was the end of everything. I now for the first time in my life had obtained a fear of death and so too returned my insomnia.

But this new fear of death is not a fear of death itself, but that I had now discovered I truly want to live and that my fear was dying too soon. My thoughts and feelings of dying young were back. Over the past few weeks my thoughts have been very focused on my new found spirituality and with each week my fear of death has decreased.

I would describe that fear now as only a raised awareness of death. This is all new and fresh to me so my mind has new fears as well. By paying attention to the amount of death to young people which occurs daily, it's easy to wonder "why not me?" These questions only further negative thinking and therefore create fear and unless you can conquer that fear you will consider that you will die soon and by considering this your conscious and your daily living becomes negative, possibly indeed leading to the demise which keeps plaguing the mind.

As I have continued to further my thoughts and accept knowledge of the Afterlife I have also discovered a strong desire to live. Very often do I tell myself that I wish to grow old and experience great love and leave a family and a legacy on this earth. I have found new purposes and goals for this life and the only thing which could stop them is death, which sort of makes it my enemy. But the true enemy is the fear and consideration of death. If you allow it to haunt you, it will defeat you.

I now believe that I will live to fulfill my goals. I believe this because I have plans of love and compassion. I have ideas to influence people positively and help the people closest to me understand the life I am discovering and how it can help them too. I have such a desire to live that I believe death will only arrive at a time I consider convenient.

Understand that we are the masters of our destiny and everything which occurs is decided directly from the choices you make and the choices every one else makes. We are connected. Find a will and a desire to live and purposes which involve the most powerful energy in existence (love) and you will live for as long as you need to fulfill your time here. Unless they have great regrets, I've never met or known an old person who wasn't prepared for death.

To put it simply, love and you will live.

Kinda related, I just started this psi test, out of 45 people so far, I've correctly decided that the person was alive or dead about 40 times. Gonna do more and see what my results are.

http://www.psiarcade.com/diagnose/intro.html

goobygirl wrote on Mar 26^th, 2010 at 11:35pm:

Kinda related, I just started this psi test, out of 45 people so far, I've correctly decided that the person was alive or dead about 40 times. Gonna do more and see what my results are. http://www.psiarcade.com/diagnose/intro.html

125/200 for a 62% accuracy for me. Not bad imo considering I've never even tried anything with psychic stuff.

We are never born,and we never die.we are imortal

I'd say our souls never die, but our bodies do.

69% on the test.

I believe there is more than one exit available. How a particular one is 'reached' or 'achieved' I don't know. There have been more than a few 'close calls' for me, but I'm still here, and I don't think anyone can predict my death. Not unless I've got some horrible disease, which I don't believe I do.

I tried the test and was pretty much dead even. It kinda gave me the creeps to do it, though, wondering how my thoughts might be affecting the living persons. Therefore, I tried not to think, just react to the photos. When I seemed to be most successful with it was looking in the eyes. The 'live' ones had a certain look in their faces, very engaged and hopeful. At least, I thought so.


wrote on Mar 26^th, 2010 at 4:28pm:

I have read reports of mediums knowing when people are dying soon (weeks to months.) and I believe the sitters also have an inkling about this as well. What do you guys think? (When I think of my death, I get a feeling of a car accident and me dying horribly but fast because of no seat belt. I feel this happening but not for some years yet. I also get a feeling the accident isn't necessarily my fault.)

I got 52%, 103/200, but I felt like it was hit or miss. I didn't pick up anything from most of the pictures. I would have almost rather have looked at pictures of their possessions than pictures of their bodies.

I remember when my Grandmother passed. She was quite the woman. Used to smack people on the ankle with her cane as they walked by, just to piss them off. She was a flapper in the 30s. She had some stories. Just before she died I went to see her in the hospital. She just hated being there. Wanted so bad to die in her own home. She told me she would be dead by the weeks end. I asked her about her soon to be ending life. She told me she saw herself going down this pink tunnel into a blazing bright light. I though it was the same tunnel with the light that so many have spoken about in their explorations or NDE's. She died a few days later and her funeral was shortly afterwards. We all went to the funeral and the family went to the parking area under the funeral home. As they drove Grandmas body off to be burnt up, I watched the car go. Here it drove down a pink tiled tunnel off into the Alberta sunset. Just how she described it. She knew when she was going to die and placement, location of the movement of her body after her death. I think many people know when their going to die and see it beforehand. 

...I don't think anyone can predict my death.

Then again, I still believe rainbows are God's promise to us....

On my thread, "The Healing of a Cripple," I will post a detailed account of some of my death premonitions.  They are always accurate!  For now, I'll just describe it like this: I'm talking to someone and I unexpectedly seem to see their skeleton.  This perception is accompanied by a sense of dread and then by an uncanny awareness that they will imminently be dead.

My Dad has a friend named Helmut.   Helmut's Dad always foreknew that he would die on his 90th birthday.  When that day came, his family members were apprehensive but were afraid to say anything.  Helmut's Dad acted very chipper as if nothing was unusual.  Then he complained that he felt tired and would take an afternoon nap.  He never revived from that nap!  His prediction made many decades earlier came true.

Emanuel Swedenborg learned during his astral explorations that John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, was eager to meet him.  So ES sent JW a letter revealing this awareness and inviting JW to set up a time for a visit.   JW was astuonded because he had told no one he was eager to meet ES.  JW explained that the meeting must be postponed 3 months until he finished his ministry tour to America--a tour, by the way, which spared what historians call "the Great Awakening."  ES sent his regrets, adding sadly that by then ho would be dead.  In fact, ES knew the exact date of his anticipated death!  When the day came, he quietly said good-bye to his housekeeper.  Then he lay down for a nap and passed away in his sleep.

Don

It's just crazy because here I am, an adult male in good health and a doctor said all my readings are excellent, yet, at any time I could drop dead. It all seems so wrong and unfair. It's especially worse that we are intelligent enough that we can see it and question it... but i'll be damned if we can truly come up with an answer that is 100% correct and explains what really happens.

(I realize in the bible Adam brought sin into the world and then we started dying. I would prefer to keep any references to that out of this though. Only reason I bring it up is because I know that explanation.)

Your will and desire to live and spread love in this world will have a very large impact on how your life will be. It's like how my constant premonitions of my death at an early age were haunting me last year. It's strange because I can almost describe what I was going through as an experience similar to what people call a "midlife crisis." It's not so much when that happens, it's just that it does. I think this is just your conscious making you aware that you need to change your life.

So I think my prediction of dying young was right at that time. Because if I did continue to feel as I did and not find a solution and a strength, this was to be my fate. But now I feel as though I am going to live a long life. Long enough anyway that death will not give me fear. And I know I feel this because I have found so many answers to life and am continuing to do so. We must keep our energy flowing and "alive."

Hmm well. I actually feel hate and malice at all the love statements made here to tell you the truth. Nothing personal, and I see it everywhere. Love is this love is that love love love blah blah blah. Makes me sick to my stomach. Sorry... just does.

The will to live is only a very very minor effect on your life span.

How do I know this?

I would destroy the world if it meant my everlasting life. No ones life means more to me than my own.

I call to you demons of evil. come to me. Talk to me. Give me your power. Give me eternal immortal life and in return I will hand you the world.










:::crickets chirping:::

So, now, why don't you tell me how you Really are?

I have to admit, starcraft, that I can relate to the 'love love love, gobbledegoop'...blah blah blah" at times for sure. I don't think unconditional love, at least for me, is the same kind of thing as love as we mostly conceive of it. When I listen to Bruce's CDs and he says, "feel LOVE" out of the blue I am rather mystified, because what he is really saying as best I can tell isn't love like you have for a body or object, say a piece of artwork or some other creation. It is more like a completeness within one's self that includes all that is normally thought of as separate as being a now within what you identify as the self.

This guy at times can be a bit hard to take as some of his books are merely sales pitches for existing products like TM, but this series I found very enlightening on the nature of Consciousness, particularly in the final sections of which there are 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AXmJdmzfM&feature=related

I will say also in reference to living at any cost that I have thought on that too. Survival here is not as great a priority as it used to be to me. I'm not afraid of being dead but I do have some reservations about the dying process. I do feel certain that consciousness is fundamental to existence whether you wind up with Demons ;) or with yourself in the end.

Yours,
Beau

;)No need to express love, or hate you two. You will be having everlasting life no matter how you choose to live this lifetime. When it comes to unconditional love, its a  scarce commodity. That's why it is valued so highly. Once you have felt it, your being will into a whole new level. Saying "I love you" means little. A lot of the talk here about love fits right with that. But, I have seen real love on this board. When expressed at the right moment, and under the right circumstance, it has changed lived.
Jeepers Starcraft, been watching to many vampire shows?  ;)

No, but I get a lot of enjoyment out of all emotions... and life... In fact I feel very strong ?positive? feeling over hate, anger and despair. When the tears are streaming down my face and I clamp in on myself God those are some strong fun emotions. They can actually be very enjoyable.

Let the hate flow through you.

Come with me to the dark side.
;)

When I did the test, I would look in their eyes and say "are you alive, yes or no?" and go with the answer. Towards the end I got worse results as I was tired and didn't want to do it anymore...I honestly got like the last 20 almost all wrong... So I would say I would have been higher on right answers had I slowed down.

You could really look in their eyes and know, it seemed... Weird...

Starcraft,

Your aversion to this site's love talk is well taken.  Many ministers recognize that our most spiritually important words have been deadened by overuse and glib feel-good talk.  People derive more comfort when they are told, "God really LIKES you," than when they are told, "God LOVES you purely and unconditionally."
The word "like" is more effective because it hasn't been damaged as jargon the way "love" has.

When I was a college Religion professor, I once asked this question on a final exam: "Discuss St. Paul's teaching about love."  Even the best students flunked that question because they could not separate Paul's lofty teaching from their own preconceptions.  They were blinded by the distorting impact of jargon words.  So I never asked that question again.  My students did much better answering more highly technical questions. 

So what's the solution?  (1) Use prententious jargon words more sparingly.  (2) Give examples or be an example that people can picture concretely.  There is much wisdom in the old cliche: "Who you are speaks so loudly I can't here what you say."

Don

I am so glad to hear that I am not alone in this!

Love ya!  :D


Sorry I know it was off topic anyway. Back to the topic.....

I still think people / mediums can tell if someone is going to die. A lot of my info is from The Afterlife Experiments book where the author mentions John Edward saying he tends to see a greyness / dullness instead of normal light around those that are close to they're death. (don't get me wrong, I do consider John Edward to me a medium which demands to be questioned since he has been so public which makes me tend to assume he is a super fraud.) BUT, the one woman's husband in the book did die not that long afterwords from a heart attack/car crash. Also I do accept that some prophecies can be self fulfilling.... just like we like to see images and patterns in just about anything we see.

I still think it's a definite possibility that those with the gift can sense it...