Good Evening Bruce

Did you, on your out of body trips, ever met somebody of the galactic federation? does it exist? it it for real? i read that millions of ships are going to land on earth and that everybody is leaving the planet. but, reading and believing what other people write is believe system. to believe is not being sure. i believe your out of body experiences because i did do this myself in the past. so, please Bruce, can you clear this up for me. The galactic federation, is it real, did you met them? how do they look and are they really going to land here. They also say that the government is already aware of them and that they hide information for us.  Well Bruce, thanks for your answer

Kind regards

Iris

Hello Diamond:

Obviously I'm not Bruce, but I'll respond.

I had a couple of dreams suggesting that when great flooding takes place on this earth in the not too distant future, unfriendly beings will invade.

Kay Wilson, an abductee, was shown an image where unfriendly aliens attack in the not too distant future, and friendly aliens help out. She was also shown huge star ships, but she couldn't figure out who they are going to pick up.

Mark Aubrey wrote in his book "Keep it simple" that he was shown that unfriendly aliens would attack in the not too distant future. He was also shone huge starships, but he doesn't know who they are going to pick up.

I asked my spirit guidance if unfriendly aliens are going to attack in the not too distant future, and an image of Jean Luc Picard from Star Trek the next generation looked at me with a concerned look on his face (I figure the symbologic meaning is somewhat obvious).

One time I asked if I would be picked up by a starship when trouble develops, I saw a ship in space, experienced my self travel to and through its back doorway (not physically) and I hit my my head on the upper part of the doorway as I did so. I'm not certain, but the hitting my head might've been a way of saying don't enter the ship.

For the dreams I spoke of above, I was amongst people who hid while the invasion took place, we survived, and for one of the dreams the point was made that people on this planet who represent love and light would succeed in helping make this world a better place.

Kay Wilson and Mark Aubrey were told that they would need to hide out as unfriendly beings hunt people.

I know there are people who say they channel friendly alien beings and they provides descriptions of what will happen when it comes to starships that will pick people up during future catastrophes, but they seem to contradict each other, say things that don't sound right, so I'd rather rely on what abductees, spirit messages I receive and my own common sense say.

Thus far, it seems as if I'm staying behind, and I don't know who visiting starships will represent and who they will pick up.

Actually, I have received some messages that seemed to make the point that people who can't handle the increase in vibrational rate this planet will experience will be moved to another planet. I'm not certain if I interpreted these messages correctly.

As opposed to relying on what channeled sources say, I believe it would be better for a person to make contact with spirit guidance he or she can trust. It can be a process figuring this out, and keen discrimination is required if one doesn't want to be misled by whoever.

There are real now problems, and there are thought problems.

Spooky

A number of people have received messages that world changing events are going to happen. Since I've received them, it only makes sense that I think in terms of being prepared.

If many people die in the not too distant future, what kind of surviving people will determine this world's future? Will some people try to survive so they can be around to effect things in a positive way, rather than see mankind repeat the numerous mistakes it has made?

You don't have to think about now to exist in now, because now always exists.


spooky2 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 11:39pm:

There are real now problems, and there are thought problems. Spooky

Nor am I Bruce but I believe that you shouldn't be to concerned about the Galactic Federation coming to earth and hunting people. Even if that was to happen, which I personally doubt it will anytime soon, there is little you could do about it beforehand. Lets face it, if they can travel between planets or wavelengths, what are we going to do to them? If your time is up then perhaps it is more important to make sure that your legacy is one of helping others and of love.

I agree, if there is a scientifically/technologically more advanced set of beings with malevolent intent there is little we can do about it so stop worrying....

Perhaps there is something we can do.

When some people speak of reptilians they speak of them as if they aren't physical in the same way as us.  This being the case, it may be that love energy can have an effect on them. There are people who have found that when they send them love they go away.

Some say that if the vibrational rate of this earth increases, unfriendly beings won't be able to hang around.

Plus friendly beings might help us out if unfriendly beings attack.

Mark Aubrey had an OBE where he attended a meeting with several types of aliens, one alien suggested that they go after the unfriendly aliens, but they decided not to do so because if they did the unfriendly aliens would respond by attacking this world and friendly aliens in mass. Therefore, it is possible that some sort of wait game is going on amongst the friendly and unfriendly aliens. The friendly aliens don't want to do a pre-emptive strike.

When Kay Wilson was shown an image of unfriendly aliens attacking, human beings did have some success against them, plus friendly aliens helped out.

Both of their books are available for free on the internet. Here are the links. Kay speaks about the vision I speak of under the chapter called "Future Earth" beginning on page 215.

I'm not suggesting that Kay and Mark are always right, but they seem like honest people who shared what they experienced.

http://www.alienjigsaw.com/The_Books/I%20Forgot/Book%20Page.html

http://issuu.com/tayesin/docs/keep_it_simple

hawkeye wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 12:40pm:

Nor am I Bruce but I believe that you shouldn't be to concerned about the Galactic Federation coming to earth and hunting people. Even if that was to happen, which I personally doubt it will anytime soon, there is little you could do about it beforehand. Lets face it, if they can travel between planets or wavelengths, what are we going to do to them? If your time is up then perhaps it is more important to make sure that your legacy is one of helping others and of love.

I agree with Hawkeye 100% and cant seem to not post my thought on this topic too: "Why worry about unfriendly Aliens of the future, whilst not really paying attention to the unfriendly humans we have around us of today, right this min."?  :o

I mean >> these unfriendly aliens come to invade, whilst friendly aliens come to assist.. Hmmm  :-? If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldnt even come here to begin with, just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. ::)

I mean for crying out loud EVERY OUTER PLANETARY BEING has just got to think we are the most primativ Beings in the entire Universe,

• WE let our neighbors die OF THIRST AND HUNGER, when we have tools which can prevent such.
  

• WE allow adults to molest children and hide behind the strength of the royalty of religion. (has anyone heard of the latest news of the church and its molestation cases)
  

• WE allow people to freeze in the wintertime, whilst C&A clothing store "shreads up Millions" of brandnew clothes instead of giving to the needy simply because they werent "sold".
  

• WE glorify a football, soccer or golf player, movie stars and singers, race car driver pay em millions whilst a doctor or a trashman makes much much less, yet the secondary MAKE A DIFFERENCE in peoples life or death process.
  

I could go on and on...

If somebody comes down here to kick some butt, I affraid I`m gonna help em!  :-/

Hugs and love to you,
Nanner

Nanner,

"Why worry about unfriendly Aliens of the future, whilst not really paying attention to the unfriendly humans we have around us of today, right this min.? Shocked"

You're labeling an examination as worry and that speaks of your response to this subject. There's no need to fear the future, aliens nor earth graduation, but there are ample opportunities to examine and observe the players on this scene - understanding something has the potential to reduce fear. If the theoretic calmness one would like to have if faced with different alleged events turns into practice, well done. Body fear 0, spirit awesomeness 1.

"If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldn't even come here to begin with"

Looking at the overall picture of earth it already seems to be close to ripeness in terms of adopting and subsequently living "the dream" - alien to earth mindsets, including the one you promote now, that progressing as a planet or race is the dog's bollocks.

"just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. Roll Eyes"

Species who are on a path of group conformity may have little or no understanding of a path where spirits are free to progress at their own pace. Being technologically advanced/dependent isn't equal to being spiritually advanced. Another part of the crap seen can be the view of experience sparks from higher selves on different advancement levels, which can be alien indeed for aliens.

"I mean for crying out loud EVERY OUTER PLANETARY BEING has just got to think we are the most primativ Beings in the entire Universe"

..their perspective perhaps, where our path would be very non-conformist; lots of incarnations on different levels spread across linear time. If they aren't ready for this path, ok. Move along and take care, which they won't as they're already here, bent on making earth experiencers fit "their image(s)".

"[...] WE glorify a football, soccer or golf player, movie stars and singers, race car driver pay em millions whilst a doctor or a trashman makes much much less, yet the secondary MAKE A DIFFERENCE in peoples life or death process. I could go on and on..."

Hellooooooooo guilt, my old friend... you've come to change me yet again. Why should higher selves limit their experiental patterns according to YOUR polarity blueprints? Part of the experience seems to be the mini-higher self sparks not being advanced enough to disobey body impulses. Advancement starts with the glorification the body, allopathic medicine pushers, football players, bunny like producers (easter soon, notice the symbols used for that festival?), and are stepping stones for progression.

Thank you all for your answers.
I was just wondering how come that you speak of unfriendly aliens? I myself did  only read about friendly aliens. The aliens who want to help earth, so they say, are loving creatures. Did any of you read the book your first contact of Sheldan Niddle? He seems to me a serious person but how come he already speaks of the landings for about 10 years and nobody ever noticed a spaceship filled with aliens from a galactic federation.

I no longer know who to believe and if i contact my higher self nobody speaks of galactic federation :D

So i really am curious if any body, who did travel in the universe in the out of body state, heard anything about it.
People can write in books whatever they want, they can channel and say that they are channeling great masters of light, who knows if they speak the truth. I do believe people who have met other essences in the universe who speak about this galactic federation.

I wish you all a very nice day and thanks a lot.
Iris

I've had only a few obes but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth.

One problem of the results of your question might be that those who are of the opinion that there are extraterrestrials undermining our human society might respond to a much larger degree than those who are experienced in Phasing and OBE travel who have just experienced nothing in this regard. And when you search the web you might find much things right about this, but this is because you search for exactly that.

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2010 at 11:16pm:

I've had only a few obes but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth. One problem of the results of your question might be that those who are of the opinion that there are extraterrestrials undermining our human society might respond to a much larger degree than those who are experienced in Phasing and OBE travel who have just experienced nothing in this regard. And when you search the web you might find much things right about this, but this is because you search for exactly that. Spooky

Just to verify I'm reading that right, you're saying that those who have experiences with hostile beings were mostly those which dabbled in phasing and OBE travel?

I'm saying that I think most of what is written about aliens is follow-ups of follow-ups of believers who never had a genuine alien-experience. I can't falsify that there are, but "proofs" only indicate that there is something we can't understand yet. And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that.

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2010 at 11:57pm:

I'm saying that I think most of what is written about aliens is follow-ups of follow-ups of believers who never had a genuine alien-experience. I can't falsify that there are, but "proofs" only indicate that there is something we can't understand yet. And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that. Spooky

I don't see why people would be so concerned anyway. It's difficult for me to imagine a life form so evolved and yet so hostile it would wish harm upon a planet it doesn't even inhabit. My theory as it stands is that if other life forms exist within our realm and the universe, then destruction and harm is not their intent. I like to imagine that contact won't be like anything we've ever seen in a movie or read in a book.

But if hostile beings do happen to invade, I'll have my water gun handy.

"Why pick on Nanner, you emotionally wounded, phony intellectual British person!? How many different foreign languages can you read or write? Probably None! She can read and write English extremely well for a person from a non-english speaking country! What about you? Volu? When I was in London many years ago, they there have a name for some people! They called them Wanker! Sincerely. Carl."

If you're gonna reduce the response to be about picking on, try reading what you've written, and what was responded to again. - Do away with the different incarnational levels on earth, and the foundation for learning is no longer here. It's valuable knowledge, even if some incarnational lives seem basic & wasteful, because that's what more advanced incarnations benefit from. Earth life works differently than how many of the alien channelings want earth life to be - their way. Reincarnation, an alien mindset, doesn't apply to ones who are having plenty at the same time. American/british isn't my native language either, though I'm not sure why you would make a point of that in this context.

Thank you Carl, dearest.   U R the greatest for loving me the way I am, I speak 4 languages. I dont know what a "Wanker" is, but I have heard of the word "Peckerhead".

I dont feel picked on by the fella. Am not offended by Volu`s comment, at all matter of fact. So I guess I should offer a kindred answer, right?

@Volu. I commented on Spooky`s words. And my punt had been quite obvious, even for your part of the world. >> fact of the matter is, we have friendlys and unfriendlys right here, right now on our plane of conscience exsistence "where WE can decide how to raise our children, treat our neighbors, family and friends and other members of the worlds community" right? - and yet for the most part we keep our trap shut even when we see unjustice being done right here, right now. In the thread, we are speaking of foreign life beings coming on earth and then friendly beings joining them ultimately to save our tiny hiny`s in some form or fashion.

I presume your intellect reaches as far as to see that I was bringing forth >> THAT IF we would straighten out our own patterns of self distructionary thought, then we just might avoid foreign needed input. For then ... WE as a collective wont be attracting such   I believe recoverer and others put it quite nicely.

"Progressing as a planet or race" my love to me means that the souls envolved in such a play, are ready for the next highest level of exsistence, as they have "then already" experienced the primativeness of the one the leave behind. NO KID LIKES TO FAIL  THIRD GRADE OVER AN OVER AGAIN. Eventually it decides to sit down and do the homework needed to advance to the forth grade.

Whileas we are now speaking of "primative" ways: "what in a progressive ripe mind would cause a government, Prime Minister or even President to make decisions against the collective state of his people, thus being the direct cause of havoc for those people? >> Greed, butt kissing and Ego, wanting to be right?

I hope the aliens ask me one simple question: "Want to be right or happy?" >>  Guess you know my answer >> 

I will continue to ask myself in each and every delimma I come into: "What would love do now"? And I will always have the correct manner inwhich to react with. It will be the highest thought which leads me.

So in this thought I wish you lots of love for your conscience life in the here and now, where you can make a difference everyday, as when the outer planetary beings show themselves the ball game will perhaps in that instant have evolved to another form and fashion.

Hugs,
Nanner

When it comes to whether or not unfriendly aliens exist and whether they are involved with this earth, it might be worthwhile to read what Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, James Bartley, Bud Hopkins and David Jacobs have to say.

It seems as if John Mack is an investigator who found positive results, yet he wrote a book where a South American shaman and a South African shaman told him about experiences they and their people have had with aliens, and they both speak of reptilians and grays as if they are negative.

If you have the time, check out David Jacobs 15 part radio interview on youtube. He started out as a UFO investigator. He thought the abduction people were looneys. Then he had an in depth conversation with Bud Hopkins and found that the had good evidence for the abduction phenomena.

Jacobs has researched abductions for about 30 years. Some interesting points he has found:

-As time went along, he found that human hybrids would do the abducting instead of the grays.
-At some point, abductees started to report that human looking hybrids are interacting with the human race. Some of the abductees were required to show the hybrids how to integrate into society.
-They tried to film the abductors, but the abductees would alway do someting to make this impossible, such as wake up in the middle of the night and turn off the camera, and then have no memory of doing so.

The researchers I mentioned believe that the aliens that do the abductions are negative because they do things such as rape the abductees (sometimes a multitude of times) and threaten them. Some have been shown clones of themselves and told that if they don't do as told they will be replaced by their clones.

Regarding the situations where abductees are forced to have sex with aliens, hybrids and people they don't know, even if there was a positive reason for a breeding program, what about artificial insemination? One would think that an advanced society would know how to do so.

The human race is supposedly intelligent, yet it uses technology in negative ways. This being the case, why couldn't unfriendly aliens do the same?

I believe it is a mistake to jump to conclusions about what aliens will or won't do, without investigating.

It is significant to point out that investigators who speak about the negative side of aliens tend to receive more threats and harassment than people who present a positive spin. Some of them have been killed in curious ways.

Never poke someone in the eye with a stick.
Four languages...wow. I can barely converse properly in english.
Perhaps this whole aliens coming to earth and being unfriendly is a Republican thought. That was perhaps they could invade and bring back the Bush dictatorship. Allow the poor people to die from lack of medical care. Feed those dead to the aliens in payment and to save their own butts. And we all know that the republicans would only fight or attack the aliens is if they had oil. Damn republican aliens.

Nanner,

"Thank you Carl, dearest.   U R the greatest for loving me the way I am, I speak 4 languages. I dont know what a "Wanker" is, but I have heard of the word "Peckerhead".

Interesting group dynamic. You can pretend not knowing what it means, but it's poorly masked. Is this an example of "What would love do now", always correct manner, the highest thought which leads you?

"I commented on Spooky`s words. And my punt had been quite obvious, even for your part of the world."

The guesswork of whose words you might be commenting isn't quite obvious, possibly for any part of the world, but your post quoted hawkeye.

"fact of the matter is, we have friendlys and unfriendlys right here, right now on our plane of conscience exsistence where WE can decide how to raise our children, treat our neighbors, family and friends and other members of the worlds community" right?"

There are polarities, with a middle area. Different energies at play, some not dressed as captain obvious. Decisions can be made, where rosy talking isn't a given for rosy walking.

"- and yet for the most part we keep our trap shut even when we see unjustice being done right here, right now."

You can change your own steps, right now. Pointing out dynamics can turn out to be a spark in the light bulb, but what to do with it is a choice.

"In the thread, we are speaking of foreign life beings coming on earth and then friendly beings joining them ultimately to save our tiny hiny`s in some form or fashion."

You may appoint yourself as a spokesperson for the thread, use we to make your point seem more appropriate, but it still is an individual process, whether no or varying degrees of grouping. Physical hineys can't be saved.

"I presume your intellect reaches as far as to see that I was bringing forth"

If you measure others' intellect by how well they get you, then you presume too much. Communicating with words in the form of written language, and delayed instead of instantaneous feedback; it doesn't carry emotions the same way as other forms of communication. Which can easier lead to misunderstandings.

"what in a progressive ripe mind would cause a government, Prime Minister or even President to make decisions against the collective state of his people, thus being the direct cause of havoc for those people? >> Greed, butt kissing and Ego, wanting to be right?"

Though an example of a dark way of leading a country can be easier to spot than a country whose actions are spun with cotton candy, the mentioned attributes aren't foreigners in light circles. Servitude to "divine" or "evil" in either case result in further servitude.

"I hope the aliens ask me one simple question: "Want to be right or happy?" >>  Guess you know my answer >>"

I don't know, but can guess you aren't void of wanting to be right seeing the excessive use of bold, caps lock, colour and italics. That guess doesn't leave out happy though. Simple can be fantastic, but guessing again, aliens asking the questions, and simple answers might be encouraged, welcomed and enforced.

Diamond,

I don't have any information about millions of ships landing on earth or everybody leaving the planet.  I can't imagine why anyone would want to come here to evacuate the planet.  It is just a physical reality world and there are lots of them available as well as lots of nonphysical worlds to inhabit and explore.

Guess I come from the old school that believes that if we live with the consequences of our actions we are more likely to make better decisions about our actions in the future.

Bruce

i read that millions of ships are going to land on earth and that everybody is leaving the planet. but, reading and believing what other people write is believe system. to believe is not being sure. i believe your out of body experiences because i did do this myself in the past. so, please Bruce, can you clear this up for me. The galactic federation, is it real, did you met them? how do they look and are they really going to land here. They also say that the government is already aware of them and that they hide information for us.  Well Bruce, thanks for your answer

Kind regards

Iris

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Bruce-

Well, that's a sigh of relief, knowing that millions of alien ships won't be coming to our planet to take us away! 

But just in case we might have to evacuate on short notice, I'll be sure to always wear clean underwear.  :)

R

I thank Bruce for being so diplomatic with his answers. Myself, if it had been my forum, might have said something like "That's ridiculous" or something even worse than that. I have never picked up on an invasion of aliens coming to earth to do us harm. The only invasion of aliens that we are experiencing is one for south of the boarder. Bottom line is, its not going to happen from out of space. My opinion only.

Rondelle:

It's great to hear that you plan to wear clean underwear, because going by this thread, it hasn't been concluded whether or not starships are going to pick some people up.

If people are picked up I hope that the aliens know that people need to do things such as brush teeth, take showers and do laundry, or the smell within the ship might get a little funky.

Speaking of smells, some abductees say that Grays smell bad. They also say that their abductions lead to rashes and other physical ailments.



rondele wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 6:19pm:

Bruce- Well, that's a sigh of relief, knowing that millions of alien ships won't be coming to our planet to take us away!  But just in case we might have to evacuate on short notice, I'll be sure to always wear clean underwear.  :) R

I don't believe this planet will ever be destroyed or evacuated. That whole concept pretty much defeats the entire purpose of God, evolution, time, and the whole reason this planet exists and we exist on it.

Why do people ignore history and not associate it with the outcome of the future? Is it not clear that evolution (CHANGE OVER TIME) exists and that even though there is still much negative in this world that it has come very, very far from the way the world used to be? People complain about how bad the world is simply because it's their current time on it. But if you pay attention to the history of this world, we have improved.

The biggest threat to this world is its leaders. For they have the power to decide whether we improve or we do not. Just the fact that nuclear weapons even exist is the most scary. But I have hope that they will not be used, and perhaps maybe it will take the deaths of all those who still possess war and violence in their nature to reach our utopia.

But God/the universe/creator/time or whatever you want to call it has planned for this world to become that utopia and I feel as though it will not fail in that plan.

hawkeye wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 1:05pm:

Never poke someone in the eye with a stick. Four languages...wow. I can barely converse properly in english. Perhaps this whole aliens coming to earth and being unfriendly is a Republican thought. That was perhaps they could invade and bring back the Bush dictatorship. Allow the poor people to die from lack of medical care. Feed those dead to the aliens in payment and to save their own butts. And we all know that the republicans would only fight or attack the aliens is if they had oil. Damn republican aliens.

Hawkeye..lol..
I dont think I have any of the languages mastered, to tell ya the truth. ;-) I am just me. I certainly wish I could speak them all, maybe that way I could help avoid mis-understandings.
Hugs,
Nanner

@Volu, U are simply too intelligent for this Nanner. (thats what you wanted to read isnt it) >>>   8-)
I was serious when I wrote I dont know what a Wanker is. (NO JOKE) Never had heard it before.. LOL.
If you dont like the way I write, speak, look or act, you are going to have a serious problem with the aliens ;-) as I am sure they are different from yourself as well. Tolerance my love. And if you cant appreciate a good smily or a highlight, then pls simply skip my comments. That way your bloodpressure wont skip a beat on my account.

You cant even get along with a Nanner, how are you planning to get along with an Alien... whom just might not speak to you in terms of political correctness?  :-?

My highest thought at the moment is that you and I need to drink a cup of coffee together, so I can smack ya up side the head with one of my couch pillows and make you laugh at how funny I can actually be.

This ones for you: >>  ;)
Hugs,
Nanner

As I said, I dont believe that there is going to be a removal of "bodies" from the planet at any time soon up into a spacecraft, if ever. That said, perhaps contemplation should be directed towards the possibility that we, our essence or soul, or being, could be removed. Given the possibility of a thinning out of the populous, in large numbers, assistance could be coming to move us to a area that can accommodate the energy. Like to F27. (or?) This would allow some of us who are experienced in retrieval work the possibility of showing those not ready to except that they are more than their phyical bodies, that they are in fact more. Getting them unstuck and prepaired to exist within a differant wavelength. Sort of the direction that many of us here are already getting ready for.(Its not just me is it?)Perhaps the thought that it is aliens is what is confusing to some. Perhaps its really some of us, our beingness, disk members, or even ourselves, helping out. When we look upon something differant that what we dont understand or have expearence in, we call that alien.

Bruce. I would be happy if just 1 ship would come here for everyone to see, simply to show presence, so NOONE CAN DENY it anymore.

I`d be perfectly happy to see such in my lifetime, simply: so certain people realise that "they aren`t all that and better get a grip or else..." It would be so so delightful to watch some of the politicians poop in their pants as an Alien looks at them and says: "WE ARE ALL ONE and if you dont stop hurting your neighbors out of greed then I will stop you"! Muhahahahaa
Love and light,
Nanner

re. reply #15: "Carl dearest," Nanner is NOT a "wonker."   Actually, the correct word is "wonk."  However, I guess we can reinvent English a bit.  "Bonk" is the sound made by hitting one's head, say, on an unnoticed piple near the ceiling or other hard object.  So people speak of someone gong "bonkers," that is, being a danger even to themselves as they flail away uncontrollably.    

"wonk" = (1) "one who studies a topic or an issue thoroughly or excessively."  (2) "an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or boringly studious."  Our American cable news channels often speak of Washington's policy wonks.  Anyway, this does not apply to Nanner.  I like reading her posts. 

Don

Berserk2, I really do feel loved here amoungst you all. Thanks a bunch for the virtual hug.  :) Nanner

recoverer wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 7:10pm:

Rondelle: It's great to hear that you plan to wear clean underwear, because going by this thread, it hasn't been concluded whether or not starships are going to pick some people up. If people are picked up I hope that the aliens know that people need to do things such as brush teeth, take showers and do laundry, or the smell within the ship might get a little funky. Speaking of smells, some abductees say that Grays smell bad. They also say that their abductions lead to rashes and other physical ailments. rondele wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 6:19pm: Bruce- Well, that's a sigh of relief, knowing that millions of alien ships won't be coming to our planet to take us away!  But just in case we might have to evacuate on short notice, I'll be sure to always wear clean underwear.  :) R

Hmmm  :-? Recoverer, you just brought me onto something. Last year, I went on vacation at the east sea and the last day there I remember wanting to get up really really early before anyone else to go down to the ocean all by myself, which I did, in my robe. I dont remember anything else after that, except that when we came home the next day I found myself covered with a rasch from hell, itchy stripes ALL OVER MY BODY (I even have a picture of it).. as if I had walked thru bushes or something, the second to last thing I remember was standing alone on the beach, last thing I remember was then being at home and seeing the rasch. I ended up in bed for 2 weeks, had hard time breathing and the doc came, gave me a shot which caused my entire veins under my skin darken, but even the Specialist had no idea what it was.  :-?

One good thing: I didnt have to worry about my underwear, as I didnt have any on under my robe. ;-) Should we all now become underwear-less just maybe to stay on the safe side?

Hugs,
Nanner

Bruce Moen wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 5:11pm:

Diamond, I don't have any information about millions of ships landing on earth or everybody leaving the planet.  I can't imagine why anyone would want to come here to evacuate the planet.  It is just a physical reality world and there are lots of them available as well as lots of nonphysical worlds to inhabit and explore. Guess I come from the old school that believes that if we live with the consequences of our actions we are more likely to make better decisions about our actions in the future. Bruce i read that millions of ships are going to land on earth and that everybody is leaving the planet. but, reading and believing what other people write is believe system. to believe is not being sure. i believe your out of body experiences because i did do this myself in the past. so, please Bruce, can you clear this up for me. The galactic federation, is it real, did you met them? how do they look and are they really going to land here. They also say that the government is already aware of them and that they hide information for us.  Well Bruce, thanks for your answer Kind regards Iris

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Hi Iris-Diamond. Here's Bruce in one of his usual rant's about ET's and Aliens, in Warsaw, Poland. I found it highly entertaining! Thanks Bruce!  Sincerely. Carl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc8hBHqA4UU

Hi everybody


Recoverer wrote
For the dreams I spoke of above, I was amongst people who hid while the invasion took place, we survived, and for one of the dreams the point was made that people on this planet who represent love and light would succeed in helping make this world a better place.

Actually, I have received some messages that seemed to make the point that people who can't handle the increase in vibrational rate this planet will experience will be moved to another planet. I'm not certain if I interpreted these messages correctly.
Iris answers:
You are not the only one who receives these messages. Lots of people receive them and i am don’t think that this is fantasy.  I myself have seen that Young people were washing older people and that all the fish was gone, the sea was almost empty, except for three huge goldfish.. The water was no longer blue and the sky was grey and that there always will be people who don’t want to change. The one who showed me that was my twin flame who took me on an out of body trip. I personally believe his message of course because i experienced it myself and there fore i also believe you.
Nanner wrote:
I mean >> these unfriendly aliens come to invade, whilst friendly aliens come to assist.. Hm mm   If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldn't even come here to begin with, just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. 
Iris answers.  I think you are absolutely right with this Nanner. We have to start taking care of each other and the planet es well. We have to change ourselves, we as a human energies. Love you for saying  everything you wrote.

Volu wrote:
You're labeling an examination as worry and that speaks of your response to this subject. There's no need to fear the future, aliens nor earth graduation, but there are ample opportunities to examine and observe the players on this scene - understanding something has the potential to reduce fear.

Iris answers.  Also a very valuable opinion Volu. Thank you for reminding me.
Spooky wrote:

Iris answers:  I've had only a few ob es but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth.
And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that.
Iris answers:
I never read anything about taking over earth, just helping people to remember who they are and that earth will be guarded by human angels. But as i wrote before, i don’t know if this is true and that is why i asked this question on this forum. I am open for experiences of people. Because i never had contact with galactic federation i don’t call people who claim they did a liar, who am i to  say people speak nonsense because i never had any contact.So i always keep my mind open.

Bruce wrote:
I don't have any information about millions of ships landing on earth or everybody leaving the planet.  I can't imagine why anyone would want to come here to evacuate the planet.  It is just a physical reality world and there are lots of them available as well as lots of nonphysical worlds to inhabit and explore.

Guess I come from the old school that believes that if we live with the consequences of our actions we are more likely to make better decisions about our actions in the future.

Iris answers:

Seth (Jane Roberts channeling Seth) speaks about countless planets earth. Seth speaks about this planet being an energetic illusion, created by us for having fun. So, why is not everybody having fun? Seth is not the only one who speaks of countless planets to incarnate on. If you choose so, you can incarnate in an  other focus in timeline 2000 AD or  the year 3698 if you want. If everything is an illusion, we just create this illusion to play a game. Giving our source self the experience in a physical body. You wrote about your experience of the creature and all the energy lines , you followed them  to a board where you could see all the lives, living simultaneously. All your selves. (Sorry Bruce, my English is not good  enough to express what i really mean) But you know what i am talking about.
SO actually, if i use my intelligence, why change this earth, why saving people if there are countless planet earth is countless dimensions to play your game on.
It makes no sense.
Stoned cold true wrote:
I don't believe this planet will ever be destroyed or evacuated. That whole concept pretty much defeats the entire purpose of God, evolution, time, and the whole reason this planet exists and we exist on it.
Iris answers. I never did read the planet will be destroyed. I read the opposite.  Never read anything about bad aliens, only friendly ones.
Hawkey said:
As I said, I don't believe that there is going to be a removal of "bodies" from the planet at any time soon up into a spacecraft, if ever

Iris answers. Never say never. BELIEVE  is not knowing for sure. If you believe you take something as a truth for yourself. But it stays believing and believing is always not being sure.

Iris-

You ask why certain people believe that UFOs will invade our planet.

Actually, these kinds of beliefs tend to be held by the same folks who also believe in conspiracies of one kind or another.  In other words, they tend to fit the same psychological profiles.

If you do some research, you'll find that people who insist they've been abducted by space aliens or that aliens will invade our planet or that government conspiracies are covering up alien encounters, etc etc all share certain psychological traits.

Yes, indulgence in fantasies also characterizes many of them.  They may also be motivated by the simple purpose of generating publicity and attention.

Until the aliens actually reveal themselves and hold a news conference somewhere, it's best not to pay too much attention to these claims or to the people who make them.

R

Nanner wrote: "Hmmm   Recoverer, you just brought me onto something. Last year, I went on vacation at the east sea and the last day there I remember wanting to get up really really early before anyone else to go down to the ocean all by myself, which I did, in my robe. I dont remember anything else after that, except that when we came home the next day I found myself covered with a rasch from hell, itchy stripes ALL OVER MY BODY (I even have a picture of it).. as if I had walked thru bushes or something, the second to last thing I remember was standing alone on the beach, last thing I remember was then being at home and seeing the rasch. I ended up in bed for 2 weeks, had hard time breathing and the doc came, gave me a shot which caused my entire veins under my skin darken, but even the Specialist had no idea what it was. 

One good thing: I didnt have to worry about my underwear, as I didnt have any on under my robe.  Should we all now become underwear-less just maybe to stay on the safe side?

Hugs,
Nanner "

Recoverer responds: "Moments of missing time is a common component of alien abduction.

Rondelle:

I've received thousands of spirit messages and have analyzed thousands of dreams, and as a result I've learned that it is a mistake to dismiss messages received. The messages I received that relate to this topic are more than I shared.

Sure there is a lot of questionable information out there, but if one takes the time to look one will find that there are people who are dealing with more than delusion.

I figure that if a person concludes that people are simply deluded when it comes to the matters you mentioned below, then either a person just doesn't want to see that they have something valid to say, or a person hasn't researched the matter in an in depth manner.



rondele wrote on Mar 27^th, 2010 at 8:19am:

Iris- You ask why certain people believe that UFOs will invade our planet. Actually, these kinds of beliefs tend to be held by the same folks who also believe in conspiracies of one kind or another.  In other words, they tend to fit the same psychological profiles. If you do some research, you'll find that people who insist they've been abducted by space aliens or that aliens will invade our planet or that government conspiracies are covering up alien encounters, etc etc all share certain psychological traits. Yes, indulgence in fantasies also characterizes many of them.  They may also be motivated by the simple purpose of generating publicity and attention. Until the aliens actually reveal themselves and hold a news conference somewhere, it's best not to pay too much attention to these claims or to the people who make them. R

:)

Interesting

So many people, so many opinions.
But i received answers on my question.
Nobody knows anything about a galactic federation of light.
Me neither.

Can we conclude then  that this galactic federation of light does not exist?


We can't. We just have not been confronted with it.

Neither you as I did.

So  i have to search further.

Everybody has their own believe systems.

The problem in finding out about the non physical realities is that we, as energy living in a human body, interpret everything we experience, in a human way.
We translate and associate in earth terms everything we experience in the non physical.

When we travel outside out bodies experiences are explained to us on a physical level otherwise we don't understand them.

I experienced myself for a few times as a blue fluid mass  and also as a color, without form, it was all so strange that it scared the hell out of me.
I even travelled inside earth, just like Bruce did, but i did not see the  crystal. I saw a world their with beings who did not look human. I saw a little one eyed dwarf who was staring at me.

I did experience a few aliens, i am very sensitive for energy. I can feel the energy physical with my outer senses. I can hear and see in other dimensions while my earth consciousness is completely awake.  As if i am operating at the same time in two different worlds.

But i never experiences any information concerning a galactic federation with millions of space-ships, trying to save earth.

I wish it is true because i am really sick of this awful world,  like the way Nanny described.  I also think i do love animals more than people.

I thank you all for your co-operation. I hope i speak to a human person some day who actually did see this galactic federation.

The reason i asked you guys is that this is the Bruce Moen forum. I really enjoyed reading his books and the way the universe explained itself to him.  My explanations of course are different but that makes it so special.
I thought, maybe the people on this forum travel a lot with their energy body and maybe somebody found out something.

I don't want to force my own truth to anybody at all. i completely live in the now and everyday my truth is changing . i liked reading all your opinions and learned from them.

I wish you all a nice week-end.
Iris

Albert-

I think we need to distinguish between people who report that they have seen UFOs and those who believe in alien invasions/abductions.

I realize that many credible people (airline pilots, military officials, etc) have reported UFO sightings.  In fact, I also saw what I'm reasonably sure was a craft not of this world.

However, when it comes to alien invasions and taking people away somewhere, that's a different story.  A well adjusted person, who is satisfied with his/her life, is not likely to embrace the alien invasion thesis.

It's not just coincidence that people who were abused as young children are often the same people who report being abducted by aliens and being "probed" in sexual ways while abducted. 

It's their way of coming to terms with what happened to them, especially if it was a parent or trusted adult who did the abusing.  I'm not saying they deliberately make up such stories, I'm sure they actually believe them.

R

Nanner,
"U are simply too intelligent for this Nanner. (thats what you wanted to read isnt it) >>>   "

Thought of it as a clear and concise reply. When it doesn't come across, then so it is. (That's your presumption.)

"I was serious when I wrote I dont know what a Wanker is. (NO JOKE) Never had heard it before.. LOL."

Here's a blazing wank from instrument tossers; knew how to convey emotion with their hands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnyvmYnG5s.

"If you dont like the way I write, speak, look or act, you are going to have a serious problem with the aliens  as I am sure they are different from yourself as well. Tolerance my love. And if you cant appreciate a good smily or a highlight, then pls simply skip my comments. That way your bloodpressure wont skip a beat on my account. "

My participation in this forum is beyond looks, so IF anything, that's a projective attribute. As for actions, there's also the unmentioned possibility of liking some of something. The heart beats just fine, no worries.

"You cant even get along with a Nanner, how are you planning to get along with an Alien... whom just might not speak to you in terms of political correctness?  "

Moving along from pondering why the banana is crooked, planning isn't limited to not getting along or getting along with somebody. Getting along is easy, and fun, when there's compatibility. Getting along is easy, and politically correct, when getting along for the sake of getting along. Getting along, being different, being able to express that, I find more interesting to deal with on this board. At least for my part: refining is the name of the game, and there's growth potential.

"My highest thought at the moment is that you and I need to drink a cup of coffee together, so I can smack ya up side the head with one of my couch pillows and make you laugh at how funny I can actually be."

Your highest thought at that moment disregarded my input in the scenario, so I'll pass.