We must live 288 livetimes on this planet to gain heaven.that would be 144 lifetimes as a male and 144 times as a female.The longer we live in this life,will mean we are getting closer to our gold.I am 76 right now.how old are You?

George, what are you talking about? I've never heard such a thing. I find it extremely, well, impossible, to believe. Who told you this, or is this your experience, and how do you know?

I guess I'm kind of stunned by what you wrote. Yesterday I tried to go visiting amongst my 'past lives' in meditation, for the first time in years. I tried several times, sincerely, and came up with nothing. 'They' wouldn't show me anything. I fully expected to 'surface' with at least 'something', but nada. I've already viewed, probably 5-6 other 'characters' in my 'past' this way, so I had no reason to doubt I could find another 'life'. But, nooooooooo, no matter how sincere I was, nada. So, I just put it behind me.

Now, here you are, saying I may have some other lives to go, since I'm not nearly where you are, in earth years.

So, what gives?

Yeah that seems kind of silly. I'm not disregarding the idea of reincarnation on earth but I doubt there is a set number. People's souls enlighten through knowledge and experience which others gain easier or have an affinity for before others. Paris Hilton for example, I'm pretty sure is a new soul.

hi george i hope not ,i have a hard enough time dealing with this life.

lovwe and god bless  love juditha

I  get a news letter from infinite being every sunday.some people know on this board know about infinite being,by owen waters.I tend to belive what he says.George

I like some of what I see on that website. This is what I just read:

"The universe is permeated by, and held together by, the love aspect of the One Creator. The universe was created by three fundamental aspects of original consciousness - intent, love and motion. Love is the medium that fills all of the universe, while the intent of the One Creator holds that universe together within its embrace.

Love is not something that you generate. It is something that you allow to flow through you. You have only to allow it to flow in order to experience its wonder."

http://www.infinitebeing.com/0405/ibmeditation.htm

I still have a problem with all those lives, but there's some good stuff here. Do you practice this meditation every day, or often, George?

"I am infinite being."

I like it because you can say it anytime, anywhere, and easily slip into your meditative practice. Simplicity is a good thing, in my mind. But, for me, personally, there are so many ideas I want to 'practice' that I can't confine it to one anymore, as I did years ago. Still, I see how this could be very very good and useful for anyone who understands what they are doing and is not just saying it on a surface level.

Thank you, George,

for the Infinite Being link.
That meditation is very strong -- I felt the top of my head pour energy straight upward as soon as I said it! Then I tried the "I am" in addition and it stopped the upward flow but kept the sense of energizing the upper parts/chakras.

So now I'm more interested in these meditations than in the specifics (numbers) that are in the books, I assume.

And fortunately  ;) Mr. Waters seems to keep a relatively low profile. His wording is direct and calm without references to himself.

I recall you told before of this site, George,  but I had lost the link. I believe the meditation provides an amazing link.  Thanks again!

Bets

Hi George,
isn't this a rather arbitrary number?
From what I've read elsewhere, some folks can have thousands of lifetimes, while others zip through the ELS very quickly -I think it may have been in one of Bruce's books that he met someone who managed to progress through in only one lifetime (Bruce do correct me if I'm wrong on this).
From Bob Monroe's (and others) writings we can see that some people can get stuck in lifetime after lifetime going through the same old stuff. A lesson is repeated until its learned and due to that old bogeyman free will, this can take any number of incarnations from 1 to 1000 (or more).
So 144 in each sex seems to me to be rather contrived, not even accounting for those who decide to experience homosexuality or lesbianism in a lifetime to leartn what that experience may teach them.

Over to you.

Best wishes,

David
:)

Very nice, Bets. I tried this, and it feels good. As you said, "I am infinite being. I am."


betson wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 8:45am:

Thank you, George, for the Infinite Being link. That meditation is very strong -- I felt the top of my head pour energy straight upward as soon as I said it! Then I tried the "I am" in addition and it stopped the upward flow but kept the sense of energizing the upper parts/chakras. So now I'm more interested in these meditations than in the specifics (numbers) that are in the books, I assume. And fortunately  ;) Mr. Waters seems to keep a relatively low profile. His wording is direct and calm without references to himself. I recall you told before of this site, George,  but I had lost the link. I believe the meditation provides an amazing link.  Thanks again! Bets

I don't know about any specific number of lifetimes allotted, but I have discovered 27 through my own meditation and three of those were female. 

I look forward to reading the website, George, and thank you for the information.    

There's no exact number of incarnations, we incarnate as many times as needed. My over soul told me, I've had hundreds of incarnations before I had the strength and resolve to awaken. The process is difficult beyond belief, you can't just wish yourself awake, you have to do the work and pass the tests set out. If you can do that then the reconnection will take place.

balance wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 7:20pm:

There's no exact number of incarnations, we incarnate as many times as needed. My over soul told me, I've had hundreds of incarnations before I had the strength and resolve to awaken. The process is difficult beyond belief, you can't just wish yourself awake, you have to do the work and pass the tests set out. If you can do that then the reconnection will take place.

I have lives where I barely survived infancy and many others where I died in late teens or early twenties, all of which may count for others benefit but not necessarily for mine, however they count in the total lives lived on earth.  Care to hazard a guess as to what I understand  and I've been told the number is?

Revelations 7, 2-4 speaks of 144000 chosen "sealed" people. Don't know if this relates. 144 is 12x12. Much numerical symbolism here.

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 9:52pm:

Revelations 7, 2-4 speaks of 144000 chosen "sealed" people. Don't know if this relates. 144 is 12x12. Much numerical symbolism here. Spooky

Interesting, thats exactly what I thought as I read the thread, Spooky....lol.... I certainly do believe the soul re-incarnates, as its the only logical explaination to me personally, as to why I can experience a Dejavù of place or situation.

However, I cant seem to grasp where the number 144 would come into play, as I can not imagine a soul of everyone to be equal in the stages "of experiencing", ergo meaning: some souls may need to experience something 5 times in a row bevor it "gets the message" whilst another may simply need to experience it once or twice. From a mathematical standpoint I`d say if my soul has to go thru something 144 times inorder to grasp "it", then I is simply stupid.  :D and I`m gonna be pretty darn mad with my guide about that too, then.  >:(

Hugs,
Nanner

Quote Nanner:
"From a mathematical standpoint I`d say if my soul has to go thru something 144 times inorder to grasp "it", then I is simply stupid."

Haha, yes, and when you'll not have got it after the 144th/288th time, you'll have to go to the school for entities with learning difficulties :D .

Spooky