First of all what do people look like in heaven and do they or can they have physical bodies.

Secondly is there sex in heaven?

Anyone?

I believe you can represent yourself any way you like, if you are talking about the 'heaven' I am talking about. I don't pay that much attention to such things. But a 'physical' presence can add something to an experience that a whole lot of 'nothing' cannot. In my opinion, what is right for you will present itself to you there, eventually. What would be the 'limitations' of a place like 'heaven', in your mind?

Hi Brian, and Welcome  :)

Variations exist in how others might appear to you --
Mainly souls return to their time of best health and happiness, and appear to be at their favorite age.  If you pass over at age 80, you will soon appear as you did at around 30 or so years of age.
Or
Souls can look like how they were when you knew them.  You might  have reunions with some who have been in other lives since you were together, but you would see them as you remembered them.
These appearances aren't solid, but almost transparent, with more light coming through from within.

The union of two souls is more of a total melting and combining of energies than is usually possible in the physical.  This melting or melding doesn't create babies so none of those worries and responsibilities have to be considered.

Alot about 'sex' has been discussed on this site. If you'll write sex into the white space near the magnifying glass to the upper right, some of those discussions will come up for you.

Bets

betson wrote on Mar 15^th, 2010 at 10:13pm:

The union of two souls is more of a total melting and combining of energies than is usually possible in the physical.  This melting or melding doesn't create babies so none of those worries and responsibilities have to be considered.

Does this include the physical element if one wants? Actually if both sexes(male and female) want?

Brian wrote on Mar 16^th, 2010 at 3:01pm:

betson wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 10:13pm: The union of two souls is more of a total melting and combining of energies than is usually possible in the physical.  This melting or melding doesn't create babies so none of those worries and responsibilities have to be considered. Does this include the physical element if one wants? Actually if both sexes(male and female) want?

I have heard that you can recreate the sexual act and physical impressions if you and your significant other choose to, but I have also heard that the melding of souls is so much more than sex that there is no turning back to the limited effect one receives in copulation.  The soul version is more about sharing the energetic intensity of unconditional love.  Another point to consider is that whoever you've had sex with while incarnate you have most likely been with in many incarnations, and played both sexes for each other...so that begs the question...in heaven will you be the man or the woman?  Not that it matters, but it changes one's perspective, does it not? 

In my current life one of my friends is a former wife in a previous life and is a soul mate of mine and a great friend of my wife's...and her husband has married my brothers in three former lives!  He is a guy's guy, but doesn't want to hear about the sister-in-law thing!

From my standpoint, and maybe many others, the past lives and associations one has here and now are significantly based in the past and associations that come easily and are wonderfully gratifying are based in the relationships between souls, the groups one incarnates with and the cohesion developed over multiple lives together.  There is no one in my current family and circle of friends who has not been with me in former lives, and with whom I have no connection.

One additional aspect about sex in heaven...I have had a stack of "lucid dreams" or as my readers have told me "other dimensional memories" in which I have had sex with former,  current, and future lovers and while everything about the "dreams" is incredibly clear, the actual act of sex is not...but the feeling is out of this world...pure, unconditional love, the effect of which leaves you absolutely fulfilled, cared for, appreciated, and panting and then in changing back to the present reality, opening your eyes and seeing the alarm clock on the bedside table, all the while your senses are nearly screaming, wanting the sensation to continue or return. 

The way it seems to work is that you go through the standard procedures from a physical standpoint, but there is no activity...you join and the joining itself is the initiator of all the feeling, emotion, sensation, love, closeness, and all of it takes you to an incredible place of pure, absolute love.  I'll take the heaven version of sex over the corporeal version any day.

My readers have also said that most people incarnate do not get this kind of thing...I apparently have some kind of interpersonal relationship responsibilities in heaven and as a result some of it is bleeding through to my consciousness.   

I wounder what heaven sex feels like compared to earth sex?

About 20 times better and it lasts a lot longer than here on earth.George

george stone wrote on Mar 17^th, 2010 at 2:12pm:

About 20 times better and it lasts a lot longer than here on earth.George

Can you have sex forever in heaven then?

Brian wrote on Mar 17^th, 2010 at 6:03pm:

george stone wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:12pm: About 20 times better and it lasts a lot longer than here on earth.George Can you have sex forever in heaven then?

I don't think it is quite sex that you have in heaven...you have a joining of souls and it is incredibly more than the act of copulation in the third dimension.  In 3d, as you know, there is the male/female, the dominant/subservient, the penetrator/penetrated, all of which points to an act of servility to some extent.  In heaven you will not have any upper hand, you will not get anything that you will not also give, you will not have a memory of what you may do that will not be a memory of what was done to you....the whole deal in heaven is that there is an unbelievable joining of souls...an unconditional love, a feeling of euphoria that it indescribable, an extended understanding of acceptance beyond anything you can imagine on earth, much less from the act of copulation.   

Remember, also, that sex in 3d is about procreation, while joining in spirit is about the melding of souls, souls with whom you feel closest, and are closest to you in this life time.  Usually souls you know and beings that you have been wife, mother, sister, daughter, aunt, uncle, son, brother, father, husband, etc. to before.  From the 3d standpoint, you are doing your relatives...in heaven, sex isn't sex, and it is a whole lot easier to get and 100 times better than what you get from sex on earth.  Don't expect limitations in heaven...it is unlimited, but your understanding and expectation will also be unlimited so your 3d impressions may also be cast aside. 

Hi Brian,

I'm still interested in your questions.  You are getting answers that are true to my experience also  and to which I have nothing to add right now  :)

Bets

usetawuz wrote on Mar 17^th, 2010 at 9:26pm:

Brian wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:03pm: george stone wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:12pm: About 20 times better and it lasts a lot longer than here on earth.George Can you have sex forever in heaven then? I don't think it is quite sex that you have in heaven...you have a joining of souls and it is incredibly more than the act of copulation in the third dimension.  In 3d, as you know, there is the male/female, the dominant/subservient, the penetrator/penetrated, all of which points to an act of servility to some extent.  In heaven you will not have any upper hand, you will not get anything that you will not also give, you will not have a memory of what you may do that will not be a memory of what was done to you....the whole deal in heaven is that there is an unbelievable joining of souls...an unconditional love, a feeling of euphoria that it indescribable, an extended understanding of acceptance beyond anything you can imagine on earth, much less from the act of copulation.    Remember, also, that sex in 3d is about procreation, while joining in spirit is about the melding of souls, souls with whom you feel closest, and are closest to you in this life time.  Usually souls you know and beings that you have been wife, mother, sister, daughter, aunt, uncle, son, brother, father, husband, etc. to before.  From the 3d standpoint, you are doing your relatives...in heaven, sex isn't sex, and it is a whole lot easier to get and 100 times better than what you get from sex on earth.  Don't expect limitations in heaven...it is unlimited, but your understanding and expectation will also be unlimited so your 3d impressions may also be cast aside.

Yeah uh I'm not doing my relatives because thats just wrong. To me heaven sex is still sex in my point of view. I don't expect my personality to be removed in heaven so my likes and dislikes will remain the same I'm hoping.


Since heaven is supposed to be unlimited, can you get the result of the joining of the souls while at the same time having physical sex, like have both heaven and earth sex in one? To me thats a whole lot better IMO.

Hey, Brian, it's your heaven. Do as you like there. Why should you have to ask someone else? It's heaven! If you want something very special there, why would it be denied you? No one should tell you how it should be for you in your very own heavenly experience. I don't see any problem with what you want and I'm sure you can have it. Just get yourself there and find out.

Well if the afterlife exists I am pretty sure it's a lot like being NEO in the MATRIX. You are the "one" and can now do anything and be anything.  :D

wrote on Mar 17^th, 2010 at 10:55pm:

Hey, Brian, it's your heaven. Do as you like there. Why should you have to ask someone else? It's heaven! If you want something very special there, why would it be denied you? No one should tell you how it should be for you in your very own heavenly experience. I don't see any problem with what you want and I'm sure you can have it. Just get yourself there and find out.

And how do I know such a place as this even exist and how do I deserve it?

You deserve your heaven by virtue of being born, by virtue of existing here as a human being. By no other reason. IMO.

wrote on Mar 18^th, 2010 at 2:33pm:

You deserve your heaven by virtue of being born, by virtue of existing here as a human being. By no other reason. IMO.

OK but how do I know that heaven is even real in the first place?

How do you know anything is real?

Hi

One way is to learn to visit the 'afterlife' by reading books by Bruce Moen and others. What you experience there will proove the reality of the non-physical   :)

Bets

wrote on Mar 18^th, 2010 at 4:37pm:

How do you know anything is real?

Good point...is it real because you can feel it, see it, hear it?  Is it real because you sense it, know it, understand it? 

And Brian, its not incest to have sex with someone who was a relative in a previous life...this is a new play, a new production and the scenes won't even be the same...much less the cast of characters!

Yes, just because you played brother and sister here it will have no bearing on your feelings as you merge with the higher self (The Cast is completely related) You may certainly find in fact that those you were intimate with while here have played your siblings and parents many times before. It is a much larger reality of possibilities. That's how I see it. It is a play, but one with goals for the character as well as the higher actor self. It is my opinion of course and what makes sense to me.

Yours,
Beau

Another thing I'm curious about is if people have sex in heaven, does that mean their spiritual bodies have sex hormones? Maybe a different kind, like instead of having them for procreation, we have them for pleasure?

I think a lot depends on what you are calling "sex". Intimacy, love, companionship will all be there. As you are not existing within a phyical body once you go to a heaven, belly's slapping together, slip sliding, phyical intercourse is unlikely. Sex isnt everything. Bruce talks about an area in his explorations where he came upon a pile of bodies desperately seeking phyical sex. The trouble is when your so attached to the phyical act that it becomes a guiding force within your existence. That's not saying sex isn't a great thing. Personally, I rather enjoy it. But sex with love is far better than just sex. True love is far better than sex.

My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake? 

To each his own...

hawkeye wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 12:22pm:

I think a lot depends on what you are calling "sex". Intimacy, love, companionship will all be there. As you are not existing within a phyical body once you go to a heaven, belly's slapping together, slip sliding, phyical intercourse is unlikely. Sex isnt everything. Bruce talks about an area in his explorations where he came upon a pile of bodies desperately seeking phyical sex. The trouble is when your so attached to the phyical act that it becomes a guiding force within your existence. That's not saying sex isn't a great thing. Personally, I rather enjoy it. But sex with love is far better than just sex. True love is far better than sex.

I don't agree with you because sex is one of the best ways to express love, and what kind of heaven would it be if people can't make love? Sex with love is what I'm talking about and I hope to god they have that in heaven.

Why would a loving god take away the best thing there is in a place that is supposed to be heaven? And that is being able to make love with the one you love like sex.

usetawuz wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 2:07pm:

My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake?  To each his own...

Why not have both the merge AND the physical act at the SAME time? That sounds even better to me. Do you think people will be able to do this?

Earth sex is a merge of the physical body basically, heaven sex in a merge of the spiritual body.

So the question still stands, do people in heaven still have sex hormones of a type?

Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever.


usetawuz wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 2:07pm:

My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake?  To each his own...

Thats what I have been saying.


wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 6:48pm:

Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever. usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm: My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake?  To each his own...

Some people say spirits can do physical things such as drink alcohol, take drugs and have sex.

If this is so, then why do some sources say that people who are addicted to the above attach themselves to humans in the flesh so they can continue to enjoy their cravings?

I figure life without a physical body is going to be somewhat different than life with a body. The higher you ascend, the more you won't have anything to do with body based activities such "Ah Choo!"

I read that sweatenborg said he saw a man and woman have sex in a human body in heaven.George

You know I respect where you're coming from, but I don't understand why people just automatically slide all those things together in one sentence like that, as if it's just got to be the express route straight to hell....and there are certainly sources who also suggest that we take care how we approach such things. But, I don't personally believe that spirits attach themselves to us that way. Not that I really want to get into this discussion too deeply, although it is interesting. The point is, joy and happiness and love are experienced in many ways. There is no need to assume that a particular experience is 'bad' or 'addictive' -- that is, unless it actually is. Only you can say.


recoverer wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 7:45pm:

Some people say spirits can do physical things such as drink alcohol, take drugs and have sex. If this is so, then why do some sources say that people who are addicted to the above attach themselves to humans in the flesh so they can continue to enjoy their cravings? I figure life without a physical body is going to be somewhat different than life with a body. The higher you ascend, the more you won't have anything to do with body based activities such "Ah Choo!"

So, Brian, if someone is able to prove to you that there is no sex in the afterlife, are you not going to go?  Or would you spend the rest of your time in this lifetime depressed about it?  For me at least, in reading Robert Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books, I found many things that are far more interesting to consider, wonder about and someday explore than whether you get to have sex.  But, of course, if that is your hangup......

Brian wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 7:40pm:

Thats what I have been saying. wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 6:48pm: Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever. usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm: My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake?  To each his own...

I'm not saying you can't, shouldn't or won't attempt a version of physical sex in heaven, rather that there is so much more and upon your entry therein you will become aware of so many amazing opportunities that the brief, simple moment of bliss created through a manifestation of physical sex will seem trivial by comparison.  However, I believe in heaven you are free to do whatever you want limited only by your imagination, so sex in any form or manner is solely your choice.

I am all for physical sex and enjoy its physical and spiritual benefits tremendously, all I am saying is that in heaven I expect more...I expect a fully engrossing, soul-filling, on-going orgasm.  That's all.

usetawuz wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 10:41am:

Brian wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 7:40pm: Thats what I have been saying. wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 6:48pm: Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever. usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm: My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake?  To each his own... I'm not saying you can't, shouldn't or won't attempt a version of physical sex in heaven, rather that there is so much more and upon your entry therein you will become aware of so many amazing opportunities that the brief, simple moment of bliss created through a manifestation of physical sex will seem trivial by comparison.  However, I believe in heaven you are free to do whatever you want limited only by your imagination, so sex in any form or manner is solely your choice. I am all for physical sex and enjoy its physical and spiritual benefits tremendously, all I am saying is that in heaven I expect more...I expect a fully engrossing, soul-filling, on-going orgasm.  That's all.

I understand where you are coming from and now I agree with you, but maybe in heaven the physical sex will give you everything you could want from sex and maybe more like what you described, fully engrossing, soul-filling, on-going orgasm. Perhaps both a soul merge and regular intercourse, perhaps a million other things. Who knows.

Pat E. wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 2:15am:

So, Brian, if someone is able to prove to you that there is no sex in the afterlife, are you not going to go?  Or would you spend the rest of your time in this lifetime depressed about it?  For me at least, in reading Robert Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books, I found many things that are far more interesting to consider, wonder about and someday explore than whether you get to have sex.  But, of course, if that is your hangup......

No one can prove or disprove the existence of sex in the afterlife, nor can they prove or disprove the afterlife itself or god/gods for that matter. So I don't know where you are going with this.

I would also want to add that sex should not be categorized into the same group as drugs and alcohol.


wrote on Mar 19^th, 2010 at 11:53pm:

You know I respect where you're coming from, but I don't understand why people just automatically slide all those things together in one sentence like that, as if it's just got to be the express route straight to hell....and there are certainly sources who also suggest that we take care how we approach such things. But, I don't personally believe that spirits attach themselves to us that way. Not that I really want to get into this discussion too deeply, although it is interesting. The point is, joy and happiness and love are experienced in many ways. There is no need to assume that a particular experience is 'bad' or 'addictive' -- that is, unless it actually is. Only you can say. recoverer wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 7:45pm: Some people say spirits can do physical things such as drink alcohol, take drugs and have sex. If this is so, then why do some sources say that people who are addicted to the above attach themselves to humans in the flesh so they can continue to enjoy their cravings? I figure life without a physical body is going to be somewhat different than life with a body. The higher you ascend, the more you won't have anything to do with body based activities such "Ah Choo!"

Hi Brian,

If you don't believe that this site is active in ' prooving' the afterlife is real -- in showing the ramifications of it and in showing people how to get there to experience it for themselves, then why are you posting your questions here?

That is what we do here, as I see it. We discuss the afterlife from our own experiences. Bruce Moen, the site host, has found a method of accessing the afterlife, and he makes that available to everyone. Not everyone here has tried it, true, but I think almost everyone is intrigued by these experiences.

Bets

betson wrote on Mar 21^st, 2010 at 5:03pm:

Hi Brian, If you don't believe that this site is active in ' prooving' the afterlife is real -- in showing the ramifications of it and in showing people how to get there to experience it for themselves, then why are you posting your questions here? That is what we do here, as I see it. We discuss the afterlife from our own experiences. Bruce Moen, the site host, has found a method of accessing the afterlife, and he makes that available to everyone. Not everyone here has tried it, true, but I think almost everyone is intrigued by these experiences. Bets

This is correct. I made it here because I reached a state of being after closing myself from the idea of an afterlife for so long. I started researching some answers and found this site and have found more answers. I think this is a very important purpose for me to make this discovery and I am slowly transitioning to further exploration. I've been reading and posting to this forum and haven't read much of Bruce's stuff or made any attempt to discover the afterlife for myself. I just don't feel ready yet. But I will be eventually. I think I would rather find someone who would be willing to make the discovery with me.