Hi All,

I've dipped into this forum for a couple of years now and even posted sporadically. One thing that strikes me is the diversity of cultural background and beliefs of people who use this site. But one thing that people seem to share is the belief that they are more than their physical body and that death of that physical body is not the end of their existence.

Two questions:
1. Is this something that posters have always believed e.g. perhaps as the result of religious upbringing or something they have come to believe/know in adult life ?
2. If it has come as a result of belief change - was it a sudden reality blowing 'eureka' type experience or a subtle incremental change over time. If the former at what age?

This interest comes after a conversation with a skeptic friend the other night who was asking me about my beliefs and I was wondering how my experience compared with others.

Thanks,
Dave

heisenberg69 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 12:56pm:

Hi All, I've dipped into this forum for a couple of years now and even posted sporadically. One thing that strikes me is the diversity of cultural background and beliefs of people who use this site. But one thing that people seem to share is the belief that they are more than their physical body and that death of that physical body is not the end of their existence. Two questions: 1. Is this something that posters have always believed e.g. perhaps as the result of religious upbringing or something they have come to believe/know in adult life ? 2. If it has come as a result of belief change - was it a sudden reality blowing 'eureka' type experience or a subtle incremental change over time. If the former at what age? This interest comes after a conversation with a skeptic friend the other night who was asking me about my beliefs and I was wondering how my experience compared with others. Thanks, Dave

Hi Dave: 1. Always believed it was so.

With Hemi-sync and the TMI procedurals it much easier to make contact with the non-physical than it ever was through almost any other method available.

S.

Thanks Seraphis- presumeably even tho' you may have always suspected it was so, it was your hemi-sync work which really confirmed it for you...

D

Hi Heisenberg,

I too enjoy that the dearhearts here are from all around the globe -- so I guess we can call our interest 'universal.'  :)

A part of me always desparately wanted to believe in all this, but it was Bruce's books that cleared out some past obstructions and made real these connections to the afterlife. Thank goodness!

Bets

I believe in the afterlife because of numerous experiences I have had.

Up till about 3 years ago i had not even considered life after death. Until one day I was compelled (the best way to describe it) to go to my local shopping centre bookstore. I don't know why and I had no preconceived idea of what type of book I wanted.

I was 'led' to the spiritual section and had a deliberate and strong compulsion to pick out a particular book.

The title on the spine didn't mean anything to me at the time. It was Michael Newton's "Journey of Souls".

I didn't know why but I felt absolutely compelled to buy it. I took it home and read it cover to cover in almost one session. That was the beginning for me. I interpret that first experience to either my guide or someone else I am close to in the afterlife believing it was 'time'. :)

Since then I have had so many different and varied experiences confirming the after-life. I've had many plateaus but the understanding still grows stronger.

Its been the best experience/knowledge I've ever had the privilege to have...

In younger years there was no compelling interest in an afterlife, although I was a 'believer' as a child for a few years, very short in number, before dropping completely out of that 'scene' to explore many others, including atheism. None of my beliefs were ever well-founded, more like snippets of other people's beliefs.

In recent years, through a combination of personal exploration, reading of others' personal experiences, and continuing to study 'lightly' in a broad way, I feel 'intuitively' secure in the existence of an afterlife. There are too many connections which point to its existence.

My beliefs in what is 'possible' have expanded in a huge way. More than that, the process of searching, exploring, and coming across interesting ideas/people have become so rewarding that, if there is no afterlife, well, I seriously have no regrets in believing that there is.

After a terrible event, so near to me, Haiti, rather than to be angry at 'God' or depressed at a feeling of 'helplessness' -- I feel that there are things to do, places to go, hope to feel, no matter what the situation. That's a pretty huge and exciting way to live.

It is not difficult for me to imagine that this 'way of life' can linger and continue in an afterlife that is a completely startling and amazing place, one in which anything and everything can appear.

Greetings.

   I have always been fascinated with the otherside since I was 6 or 7 years old. My grandparents lived in a haunted house and my nieces used to tease me and my brother about ghosts in the attic. Several family members saw floating mists moving about the house, but I never saw anything myself. I wanted to see something but never got lucky. The first ghost I ever saw was in Florida when I was 22 years old.

   I was brought up Christian believing in heaven, but after going overseas in the Air Force I started studying about other religions, occult, and new age beliefs. I started trying to learn astral projection and partially succeeded. Since then I've been reading everything I could about non-physical existence.

Ralph

B2-

'After a terrible event, so near to me, Haiti, rather than to be angry at 'God' or depressed at a feeling of 'helplessness' -- I feel that there are things to do, places to go, hope to feel, no matter what the situation. That's a pretty huge and exciting way to live'.

For me that is one of the great benefits of this ; a subtle but powerful change in viewpoint from one of confusion and anger to one of opportunity and growth. I also pick up your point - '...process of searching, exploring, and coming across interesting ideas/people have become so rewarding that, if there is no afterlife, well, I seriously have no regrets in believing that there is'. It amuses me when some people are accused of spreading 'false hope' in an afterlife when positive benefits are coming from it and it can never be logically disproved since discarnates can never communicate that they don't exist !

D

heisenberg69 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 12:56pm:

Two questions: 1. Is this something that posters have always believed e.g. perhaps as the result of religious upbringing or something they have come to believe/know in adult life ? 2. If it has come as a result of belief change - was it a sudden reality blowing 'eureka' type experience or a subtle incremental change over time. If the former at what age? This interest comes after a conversation with a skeptic friend the other night who was asking me about my beliefs and I was wondering how my experience compared with others. Thanks, Dave

I have to admit I have yet to have any experience of the things people here have seen and done, but my belief came from reading numerous books on the subject and a feeling within myself that this is true.

Thanks for all your interesting replies !

:)

D

I had always believed in the afterlife even as a child, but after losing both parents I started struggling with some fears about it. I did a search and got Bruce's Website. I read his books and started attending this forum and my fears began to subside. I guess I got much of my start here studying about it but I have since read many other books and though I still have doubts at times the experiences I've gleaned from the various sources have really helped me get out of my head and take a look around both here in C1 and elsewhere. I am still shaking the Christian Doctrines that I was brought up with, but I've been doing that for many years. I accept there is some kind of creation at work that will never be defined properly from here, but I don't think it's a god separate from the rest of us.

Yours,
Beau

For me, I seam to have known sence I was a very young child. When I was about five I started phasing into past life memories and experiences. One time I recalled my suicide. By hanging. The same people were involved in this lifetime as that. In this case myself and my mother. I hung myself in a closet with her finding me. I knew at the time of the expearence that I was having was a real memory and that this current lifetimes connection with my now mother, was an effort to correct something from that past lifetime. I have known positively sence then and even writing about it right now, some forty seven plus years later, I remember the expearence like it was yesterday. All of the emotions. The leaving of the body. The regrets once I experienced the death of my then body. The effect of the suicide on her. From that point onward I have known, without doubt, that I was more that my phyical body. (thanks Bob) Know that reincarnation was avalable to all.  Further, I have always been able to read peoples minds to a certain extent. More of their emotions and pictures is what I pick up on. I pick up on lies and transgressions extremely easily. The emotion of when someone is killed as an example. Sometimes seeing the event or more times often, knowing by receiving communication from them, what happened to them.  It is past the point of thinking it could be true, but now, knowing that it is true. Really, at some times its a burden. As an example, knowing when someone is in emotional trouble can be quite a weight. When you know how someone was killed or if they are getting sexually abused. You know because of the emotion and pictures they put out. Sometime its does effect me very personally and can be extremely overwhelming. At Gateway at TMI, there was one participant that was having an extremely difficult time. When I walked into the room the first day I picked up on it instantly. (She was a guest there on a scholarship) I knew that the reason for her current problems in this lifetime (she was extremely introverted) was caused by her father and his brother systematically raping her over the years in the bush.They would take her out hunting, or coon dog training, as a pretext and then rape her. She was very young when it started but continued to live with the two men, with problems still occurring but more involving pressure on her for sex to continue and her now being grown up and an adult having the power to not allow it. But the memories of the events and the continuing pressure were really holding her back this lifetime emotionally and spiritually. She had only just moved away from their land before coming to Gateway. My ability to pick up on her fear, her emotions, and parts of the actual events made some days extremely difficult. Moving into her experiences was at sometimes overwhelming and heart-wrenching. I know she truly loves her father.  In the end, although not totally resolved, she seemed to come to grips with it, and although not sharing the expearence with everyone she confirmed the expearence to a few other of the attendees and the trainer who had sponsored her. It was a sensitive issue to bring up but in the end she seemed far more extroverted. 
I experienced a big win during one of Gateway outside exercise while connecting to nature. That was a connection to "All". During that expearence I was shown the meening of life's experiences, the need for sacrifice by all of us, and the gift of love and forgiveness, both excepting, and giving. A life changing expearence that I had at Gateway. Everyone should go if they have the opportunity. Anyways... So the answer would be I have known for the most of this lifetime.