When i was younger (between the ages of 9 and 11) I would see the figure of a man in a hat and wearing a long trench coat.  I would see him in the same place every night (on my door which was directly paralell wih my bed.  At first I was terrified and wouldn't turn around to face the strange shadow on the wall.  Then one night, my fear grew into curiosity and I started to move my ornaments around, curtains etc to see if the figure would move or change.  It didn't.  Then at night I would lie in bed staring at the shadow for ages.  Once the head of the shadow moved to the side and i could see he had a long pointy goatee.  Then one day he was gone!

I moved in with my mam when I was 16 and she too saw him.  She said he was in the form of black smoke and came through a crack in the door, it moved to the other side of the room and disappeared through another crack in the door.  She said her dog also noticed this apparition and got on her hind legs and followed it to the other side of the room.  I asked her to draw what she saw,  it was the same figure I would see on my bedroom wall when i was younger.

I guess my question is why did the shadow watch me for? and is he dangerous?

hi undermanager i can say with much certainty that this is not a threatning spirit you see ,i sense that he comes from way back in your family,i get that he is a guide for you and he give love,i get the name reg for him so strongly,i feel he needed to help you along your life pathway to realease some karma he needed  to to finish for his developement amongst the spiritworld,this he gives me,he only comes in love,hes saying he comes from your grandfathers side and he still gives me this name reg,he says do not fear him as he trys many times to help you in your life,but you do not always know that he is around.he has come with love and only love,he holds this cross out to you ,it is gold,plain gold,he says you know of this cross,hes also mentioning weymouth for some reason,he gives me the name of eleanor or ella.this is all he gives to me,if this is wrong sorry but i have to give what is given to me from spirit.

love and god bless  love juditha

Don't believe that he's not threatening for a second. He's a demon an do not let anyone tell you any differently. Luckily, a quick way to ensure his quick exit is a simple, "Lord Jesus Christ is with me always and in his name I command you be gone!"

Feel free to try out any other methods suggested here and fall back on this one when they don't work. Hopefully then you'll have begun to see that the real path you need to take is with your Lord and Savior instead of being vulnerable and all by yourself.

wrote on Dec 30^th, 2009 at 10:17am:

hi undermanager i can say with much certainty that this is not a threatning spirit you see ,i sense that he comes from way back in your family,i get that he is a guide for you and he give love,i get the name reg for him so strongly,i feel he needed to help you along your life pathway to realease some karma he needed  to to finish for his developement amongst the spiritworld,this he gives me,he only comes in love,hes saying he comes from your grandfathers side and he still gives me this name reg,he says do not fear him as he trys many times to help you in your life,but you do not always know that he is around.he has come with love and only love,he holds this cross out to you ,it is gold,plain gold,he says you know of this cross,hes also mentioning weymouth for some reason,he gives me the name of eleanor or ella.this is all he gives to me,if this is wrong sorry but i have to give what is given to me from spirit. love and god bless  love juditha

I don't get how you can invoke a "God Bless" in the same post in which you claim to tell this poor guy that the demonic spirit he's encountered is "friendly" and from his "grandfathers" side.

Tapping into one's "psychic" powers and our Lord God do NOT go hand-in-hand. It's either one or the other, so please don't try to mix in such things with Thou Who Is Holy. Especially when the "advice" doesn't have the particular parties best interest at heart what-so-ever.

Thanks.

Alarm Clock

How are YOU going to tell someone else how they should respond to a post? I suggest you read the posting guidelines.

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 12:34am:

Alarm Clock How are YOU going to tell someone else how they should respond to a post? I suggest you read the posting guidelines.

Because it's baseless and makes absolutely no sense? I've been reading around these forums quite a bit and while Juditha seems like a lovely women with her heart in the right place, I haven't seen or heard anything from her to warrant the fact that she's telling this man something that by all accounts, is absolutely false. And dangerously false at that!

After reading back my previous post, though, I do admit that it comes off quite hard. Biting even. And for this I apologize and acknowledge also that I cannot demand anyone on here to post in any which way -- we will all post as we please. However based on what I've just said, I would like to intervene and ask that she perhaps doesn't give advice when she doesn't even know whether or not her advice is safe, sound and true.

undermanager,

undermanager wrote on Dec 30^th, 2009 at 8:58am:

I guess my question is why did the shadow watch me for? and is he dangerous?

How many years has it been since you were first aware of this guy?  And, how many times in those years has this guy caused you harm?  From what you have written so far it sounds like this guy was observing you for some reason, but you didn't mention any harm coming from him.

Seems like if he was dangerous you would have had some evidence of it by now.

Bruce

Alarmclock,


Quote:

I would like to intervene and ask that she perhaps doesn't give advice when she doesn't even know whether or not her advice is safe, sound and true.

I think that is advice you might consider for your own actions.  We are all entitled to our beliefs and to express them here without fear of ridicule, as long as we don't infringe others rights in doing so. 

While I understand that you believe in demons and in the power of Satan, not everyone here shares those beliefs.  You are free to share your beliefs here, but you are not free to dictate what beliefs others may or may not hold.  Afterall, if Satan is the Great Deceiver capable of hoodwinking any of us about anything in devious and deceptive ways, none of us can know whether or not anyone else's advice, including mine and yours, "is safe, sound and true."

In the final analysis we are all left with a choice:
Do I trust my own perception and my own experience, or not?

Bruce

hi alarm clock,what makes you think you know more than what i do and beleive me i know about jesus and god,i just gave to undermanager what i
received from spirit and i have had dark entitys around me and they have not been threatning to me.i have not got it wrong in my opinion,so you put your say on here on the forums and so shall i,and you can say what you like but dont put me down and while we are on this subject i dont think for one minute that i'm holier than thou,you dont know me so who gave you the right to judge me.god didn't,so who are you.

love god bless  love juditha

How would our loved ones communicate to us through the spirit realm, if they wanted to do so?  There have been rare reports of apparitions (almost like images) of deceased loved ones, but is it not possible that someone connected to us spiritually might appear as a fleeting shadow or a cloud of smoke, manipulating  subtle things, hoping we would notice?  This sounds like the most likely explanation of these visions, rather than a demonic encounter.

Fear often comes from our own minds, and from the lack of love.  Many on this board used to say that FEAR is "False Evidence Appearing Real."  We always have a choice in any situation we encounter.  We can approach the situation with an open mind, centered on love, or we can indulge our fears.  Two take home points here, that I believe are crucial.  First, that we, as spiritual beings incarnate are given free will and free choice; we can choose how to act, and no other entity can take that choice away (unless we willingly give up our own power).  Secondly, fear and love are two emotions diametrically opposed.  If we express love - bring into our thought the deep love of others, it does, for a time truly dispel fear.

Since the law of mind is the law of true, deep-seated belief ("as per your belief, so it is done unto you"), those who believe in demons, fear them, and indulge in that thought, allow the deep seated belief to impress on their own subconscious, thus, in my opinion acting as an invitation to manifest in their own realities.  Those who believe in love and travel with love seldom report experiences with demons.  Why is that?

I must add here, that I believe that there are spirits, human or otherwise who choose to espouse unloving views, and thus might be termed demonic.  If a person/being lives selfishly, and doesn't follow a path of love, and this pattern continues, they may willingly enter a hellish society when they die.  There may be spirits who have believed this way for ages.  So I don't deny the possible existence of evil.  For me, however, evil is the willing action in opposition to love.

So my message to you is first, to look at an encounter with the trenchcoat being with open, loving, unfearful mind.  What emotional sense do you get from them.  Reach out with love, and with a greeting.  Some people ask for God's protection and that of "heaven" just before doing so.  If the entity were not acting out of love - in most instances, the "gut feeling" you'd have would tell you so.  If it were a deceased relative, you'd get no such feeling.

Alarm clock has the right to believe in fear and in demons who can take control over someone's free will.  Yet in that firm belief, there is, imho an invitation to experience those realities.  My suggestion is to keep in mind that you are the master of your choices (free will) and destiny, and that you act out of love.  People or entities based on hate or deception usually would flee from such ideas.

Matthew

Doc (et al)-

*  ES, who probably explored the afterlife more extensively than anyone since, did encounter what he described as demons.  And the thing is, I don't think he encountered those demons merely because he was preconditioned to believe in them.  He approached this field of study because of academic interest, not because of his belief in angels or demons.

*  Yes, love and fear cannot co-exist.  But the issue is not love and fear, the issue is whether afterlife exploration can run the risk of running into unsavory characters whether we want to call them the Devil or demons or whatever.  And I believe the answer is yes.

*  ES warned about the extensive amount of deception in the afterlife.  So to answer Bruce, yes if we encountered a Jesus-like character in the afterlife, that character may in fact not be the Jesus of the Bible.  But more importantly, "information" that is conveyed to us by afterlife persons may or may not be accurate and may be highly misleading.

*  Bruce himself warned about fooling around with the ouija board.  So why wouldn't we also be warned about the inherent dangers of wandering around the afterlife? 

*  Do we really believe that if we run into an evil entity, all we have to do is "send" PUL to it, and it'll disappear?  That little trick would not work here in physical life (think Charlie Manson) if we encountered an evil-doer, so why do we think it would be effective in the case of a malicious spirit?  Doesn't make sense.

*  Regarding Jesus imposters, take a few hours and read one of the Gospels and then read what "Jesus" had to say in ACIM.  Whichever one is the true Jesus may be up for debate, but what isn't up for debate is that those two individuals cannot possibly be the same person. So yes, Jesus can be represented by any number of imposters.

I don't see the conundrum Bruce sees re. the crucifixion unless we contend that Satan can walk the earth and become anyone he wants.  If we believe that, we could say the same thing about any public figure including the President of the U.S. or our own parent or spouse.

R

Bruce Moen wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43am:

Alarmclock, Quote: I would like to intervene and ask that she perhaps doesn't give advice when she doesn't even know whether or not her advice is safe, sound and true. I think that is advice you might consider for your own actions.  We are all entitled to our beliefs and to express them here without fear of ridicule, as long as we don't infringe others rights in doing so.  While I understand that you believe in demons and in the power of Satan, not everyone here shares those beliefs.  You are free to share your beliefs here, but you are not free to dictate what beliefs others may or may not hold.  Afterall, if Satan is the Great Deceiver capable of hoodwinking any of us about anything in devious and deceptive ways, none of us can know whether or not anyone else's advice, including mine and yours, "is safe, sound and true." In the final analysis we are all left with a choice: Do I trust my own perception and my own experience, or not? Bruce

I do admit that there was likely another way I could have come out and said as such without sounding so demeaning. For this I apologize to both you and Juditha as well as anyone else who may have read it and took it the wrong way.


wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 10:59am:

hi alarm clock,what makes you think you know more than what i do and beleive me i know about jesus and god,i just gave to undermanager what i received from spirit and i have had dark entitys around me and they have not been threatning to me.i have not got it wrong in my opinion,so you put your say on here on the forums and so shall i,and you can say what you like but dont put me down and while we are on this subject i dont think for one minute that i'm holier than thou,you dont know me so who gave you the right to judge me.god didn't,so who are you. love god bless  love juditha

Please excuse me Juditha as I would like to apologize once again. It was not right for me to cast my doubts in your beliefs in such a way. So, instead, let us approach it in a more organized and civilized manner.

Could you please explain to me just how you were able to discover that this spirit was not benevolent and more importantly, was descendant from the OP's grandfathers side? You said you could say both things with "great certainty" and yet, I read elsewhere on these forums that you were having some issues of your own with some spirits. How can you so readily give advice and be so inherently knowledgeable about other people's spirit problems if you appear to be having trouble with your own?


DocM wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 11:54am:

How would our loved ones communicate to us through the spirit realm, if they wanted to do so?  There have been rare reports of apparitions (almost like images) of deceased loved ones, but is it not possible that someone connected to us spiritually might appear as a fleeting shadow or a cloud of smoke, manipulating  subtle things, hoping we would notice?  This sounds like the most likely explanation of these visions, rather than a demonic encounter. Fear often comes from our own minds, and from the lack of love.  Many on this board used to say that FEAR is "False Evidence Appearing Real."  We always have a choice in any situation we encounter.  We can approach the situation with an open mind, centered on love, or we can indulge our fears.  Two take home points here, that I believe are crucial.  First, that we, as spiritual beings incarnate are given free will and free choice; we can choose how to act, and no other entity can take that choice away (unless we willingly give up our own power).  Secondly, fear and love are two emotions diametrically opposed.  If we express love - bring into our thought the deep love of others, it does, for a time truly dispel fear. Since the law of mind is the law of true, deep-seated belief ("as per your belief, so it is done unto you"), those who believe in demons, fear them, and indulge in that thought, allow the deep seated belief to impress on their own subconscious, thus, in my opinion acting as an invitation to manifest in their own realities.  Those who believe in love and travel with love seldom report experiences with demons.  Why is that? I must add here, that I believe that there are spirits, human or otherwise who choose to espouse unloving views, and thus might be termed demonic.  If a person/being lives selfishly, and doesn't follow a path of love, and this pattern continues, they may willingly enter a hellish society when they die.  There may be spirits who have believed this way for ages.  So I don't deny the possible existence of evil.  For me, however, evil is the willing action in opposition to love. So my message to you is first, to look at an encounter with the trenchcoat being with open, loving, unfearful mind.  What emotional sense do you get from them.  Reach out with love, and with a greeting.  Some people ask for God's protection and that of "heaven" just before doing so.  If the entity were not acting out of love - in most instances, the "gut feeling" you'd have would tell you so.  If it were a deceased relative, you'd get no such feeling. Alarm clock has the right to believe in fear and in demons who can take control over someone's free will.  Yet in that firm belief, there is, imho an invitation to experience those realities.  My suggestion is to keep in mind that you are the master of your choices (free will) and destiny, and that you act out of love.  People or entities based on hate or deception usually would flee from such ideas. Matthew

Well said and eloquently put! I suppose my core belief on this subject stems from the fact that, if this spirit was indeed "well-intentioned" in the sense that he meant the OP no harm, then why would he so creepily and confusingly appear to him? If he was indeed a loving spirit then wouldn't he go out of his way to ensure that the OP was in no way uncomfortable or frightened by his appearance?


rondele wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 12:20pm:

Doc (et al)- *  ES, who probably explored the afterlife more extensively than anyone since, did encounter what he described as demons.  And the thing is, I don't think he encountered those demons merely because he was preconditioned to believe in them.  He approached this field of study because of academic interest, not because of his belief in angels or demons. *  Yes, love and fear cannot co-exist.  But the issue is not love and fear, the issue is whether afterlife exploration can run the risk of running into unsavory characters whether we want to call them the Devil or demons or whatever.  And I believe the answer is yes. *  ES warned about the extensive amount of deception in the afterlife.  So to answer Bruce, yes if we encountered a Jesus-like character in the afterlife, that character may in fact not be the Jesus of the Bible.  But more importantly, "information" that is conveyed to us by afterlife persons may or may not be accurate and may be highly misleading. *  Bruce himself warned about fooling around with the ouija board.  So why wouldn't we also be warned about the inherent dangers of wandering around the afterlife?  *  Do we really believe that if we run into an evil entity, all we have to do is "send" PUL to it, and it'll disappear?  That little trick would not work here in physical life (think Charlie Manson) if we encountered an evil-doer, so why do we think it would be effective in the case of a malicious spirit?  Doesn't make sense. *  Regarding Jesus imposters, take a few hours and read one of the Gospels and then read what "Jesus" had to say in ACIM.  Whichever one is the true Jesus may be up for debate, but what isn't up for debate is that those two individuals cannot possibly be the same person. So yes, Jesus can be represented by any number of imposters. I don't see the conundrum Bruce sees re. the crucifixion unless we contend that Satan can walk the earth and become anyone he wants.  If we believe that, we could say the same thing about any public figure including the President of the U.S. or our own parent or spouse. R

Pretty much everything you just said goes directly in line with what I believe. Again, well said and I don't even think I could have put it any better myself! :)

Rondele,

*  ES, who probably explored the afterlife more extensively than anyone since, did encounter what he described as demons.  And the thing is, I don't think he encountered those demons merely because he was preconditioned to believe in them.  He approached this field of study because of academic interest, not because of his belief in angels or demons.

***Doc responds:   ES and others encountered hateful beings.  As I said in my post, since we have free will, we can become unloving, and evil in that sense exists.  Yet our free will appears to be absolute.  But our subconscious/deep beliefs will determine how much of that evil we need to draw into our encounters. 

*  Yes, love and fear cannot co-exist.  But the issue is not love and fear, the issue is whether afterlife exploration can run the risk of running into unsavory characters whether we want to call them the Devil or demons or whatever.  And I believe the answer is yes.

***Doc responds - I agree that we can run into characters.  I believe however, for a demonic influence to have power over our own free will, we must give it the power or an invitation, through our deepest beliefs or thoughts. 

*  Bruce himself warned about fooling around with the ouija board.  So why wouldn't we also be warned about the inherent dangers of wandering around the afterlife?

***Doc Responds: Many, including Bruce give warnings about the afterlife.  The key difference between their warnings and one such as Alarm Clock is the belief that these entities have some sort of mystical control over a person and his/her free will, that allows an evil to exert itself over our own free will.

*  Do we really believe that if we run into an evil entity, all we have to do is "send" PUL to it, and it'll disappear?  That little trick would not work here in physical life (think Charlie Manson) if we encountered an evil-doer, so why do we think it would be effective in the case of a malicious spirit?  Doesn't make sense.

***Doc Responds - well, yes, I think that love, and loving intentions will make certain unloving spirits run away with their tails between their legs, but no, I don't believe that it is a magic bullet or cross to be wielded with instantaneous relief.  The main issue is whether you give the entity in question the power through your own belief to have sway over your own free will.  I don't. 


Matthew

DocM wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 3:15pm:

***Doc Responds: Many, including Bruce give warnings about the afterlife.  The key difference between their warnings and one such as Alarm Clock is the belief that these entities have some sort of mystical control over a person and his/her free will, that allows an evil to exert itself over our own free will.

I never said that they have any mystical control over you personally, I just believe that they have the ability to construct and alter the "afterlife" with which you all so freely visit. It is their natural realm after all, where you are just a visitor.

Alarm Clock

IF I thought the way you did, I would drive myself insane trying to figure out what was real or what was deception!!!!

Is it from God? Is it from the Devil? How do you know ANYTHING AT ALL from the way that you think?

Do you trust your own view of the world around you? Like....seriously???

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:12pm:

Alarm Clock IF I thought the way you did, I would drive myself insane trying to figure out what was real or what was deception!!!! Is it from God? Is it from the Devil? How do you know ANYTHING AT ALL from the way that you think? Do you trust your own view of the world around you? Like....seriously???

The Holy Spirit. With it, all things become clear.

AlarmClock wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:15pm:

supermodel wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:12pm: Alarm Clock IF I thought the way you did, I would drive myself insane trying to figure out what was real or what was deception!!!! Is it from God? Is it from the Devil? How do you know ANYTHING AT ALL from the way that you think? Do you trust your own view of the world around you? Like....seriously??? The Holy Spirit. With it, all things become clear.

You sure it's the Holy Spirit? Or is it Satan?

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:21pm:

AlarmClock wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:15pm: supermodel wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:12pm: Alarm Clock IF I thought the way you did, I would drive myself insane trying to figure out what was real or what was deception!!!! Is it from God? Is it from the Devil? How do you know ANYTHING AT ALL from the way that you think? Do you trust your own view of the world around you? Like....seriously??? The Holy Spirit. With it, all things become clear. You sure it's the Holy Spirit? Or is it Satan?

Oh, I'm sure, don't worry. I've witnessed the things that Satan can do and the Holy Spirit is definitely from our Lord God. Thank you for being so concerned, though. :)

You're so sure of yourself but yet you question others here, who you know NOTHING about, you make generalizations from some posts you read??????

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:31pm:

You're so sure of yourself but yet you question others here, who you know NOTHING about, you make generalizations from some posts you read??????

My only hope is to bring Truth to anyone who may be on the fence or not sure about what they're currently doing. I never stated that I knew any of you and I posted here in the hopes of learning to know as many of you as I can. If you could please point out where I made such generalizations that blanket statemented the entire forum, then maybe I can explain my viewpoint a bit further. Or admit that I was wrong, perhaps. I have no problem doing so when the situation actually warrants it!

Do you act so malevolently to everyone who has a different opinion then you do, or is it just in regards to when the topic turns to your out of body adventures?

Some on here have answered and explained things in a loving and non-hostile way. I could tell from what they wrote that they weren't the least bit shaken from having a vastly alternate viewpoint to their core overall beliefs suddenly spring up on board. Your outbursts do nothing but suggest to me that you're not the least bit grounded in your belief system.

If you could please assure yourself that I am in no way here to ridicule anyone and instead exchange beliefs and knowledge, perhaps we could have a more in-depth and civilized discussion? Who are you, Supermodel? You suggest I've made generalizations about all of you, then please explain who you really are and why you believe in what you believe in. I am merely curious and passionate about my own beliefs -- that's the only reason I am here. If I ever become too pushy, arrogant or insensitive, then please bring it to my attention immediately. Like all of us on here, I am by no means perfect!  ;)

You made generalizations of Juditha.

I'm acting malevolently? Wow. Am I Satan too?

Okay, I apologize for that one.

Do you have something against OBE's

I'm curious. You keep referencing them.

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:43pm:

You made generalizations of Juditha. I'm acting malevolently? Wow. Am I Satan too? Okay, I apologize for that one. Do you have something against OBE's I'm curious. You keep referencing them.

The things I asked of Juditha were directly related to her posts in this very sub-forum. I'm going to put that topic on hold though until she gets back to me with the answers to the stuff I'd asked of her earlier.

As for OBE's, as I stated earlier, I do inherently believe that I have something against them. From my perspective as I stated earlier, it all could very well could be a demonic mirage. However, I haven't shut my mind to any alternative realities by any means. I've been researching as many of the Christian viewpoints about OBE's/astral projection that I can and am attempting to potentially reform my previous beliefs about them should the opportunity present itself.

As for me calling it OBE's, I really don't know what else to call it other than the phase thing. Do you all call it something else? Should I refer to it as astral projection? I didn't mean to come off as disrespectful by using such a term, only that it is by far the most convenient and speedy of phrases! :)

I guess I meant how you speak of our "adventures" and such. As if you took issue with it.

Jay,

I can only say that you have your mind open.....just a tad........a sliver even to even come here and try to get into a discussion about it....which is cool.

I can't say that for most people.

I haven't been here long but we all come from different backgrounds, faiths, etc.

I am an atheist, some are spiritual, some are religious, and some of us just don't like labels.

We may not ALWAYS agree (and trust me...it hasn't always been lots of PUL around here) but an open mind  and a little curiosity  led a lot of us right here.

Its a great start and has been an exciting adventure for me.

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:55pm:

I guess I meant how you speak of our "adventures" and such. As if you took issue with it. Jay, I can only say that you have your mind open.....just a tad........a sliver even to even come here and try to get into a discussion about it....which is cool. I can't say that for most people. I haven't been here long but we all come from different backgrounds, faiths, etc. I am an atheist, some are spiritual, some are religious, and some of us just don't like labels. We may not ALWAYS agree (and trust me...it hasn't always been lots of PUL around here) but an open mind  and a little curiosity  led a lot of us right here. Its a great start and has been an exciting adventure for me.

Ah I can see why you got that hunch. By adventures... I dunno, I really think that such a label was fitting as per what I've read on here in regards to recaps/summaries of people's OBE's/phase travels, it really seems like each one is an adventure. At least to you all. I don't personally view them as adventures, but felt it was a proper and respectful way to label the experiences without knowing of them first hand. In retrospect I suppose I can just use 'experiences' or something else.

I can imagine what things were once like and considering all that I've said thus far and our differing opinions and beliefs, I've been very impressed at how civilized and pleasant my reception has been. I am sorry for suggesting our original encounters consisted of you being malevolent -- while it certainly wasn't the warmest of introductions, it's clear now that your heart is in the right place. And for that, at least, I am thankful.

Not many alternative spiritual belief forums can boast such an open viewpoint policy towards people sprouting up with vastly different faiths or beliefs. This is in large part one of the reasons that I've gone out of my way to try and make clear that I'm not here to ridicule or beat you all over the head with what I believe is the only Truth. So hopefully this thread -- with this part in particular -- will help make this more evident.

I'm glad we've patched things up, Supermodel. Not the least of which is because I'm sure you'd prove quite a handful in a witty, intense debate! ;)

Me too Jay. This place isn't so bad at all. I was on a past life forum for the first time yesterday and got banned for life within two hours just for giving comfort to a guy who wanted to kill himself.

Sheesh!

;)

Hope you stick around here for a while.  :)

hi alarm clock i had issues years ago when i went through it one night with 3 dark entitys,but god protected me through it and for a long while i wondered why and then i was talking to this medium about how long she had been a medium and she told me quite a few years ,then she said to me"dont spirit put you through it when you start to be a medium",she said she had a bad experience herself,i know there is evil out there and i know there is a plain in heaven were these go but at the same time there given a chance to change,so nothing is ever lost,love can win against evil,god wins everytime,but if you show a bad spirit that your scared they will get more and more intimidating but if you ignore it and say prayers and starting throwing faith and love to it,this can put things right..

thats why catholic priests called in someones home to do exorcisim just ignore the spirit and do the exorcise ritual and this usually cleanses the home,but i knowthat possesion can occur,especially to someone whos vunerable and thats because the first part of poseesion is when the spirit trys to isolate this person and the second stage of possesion is when the spirit has full control on this person and then thats when exorcisim comes in, but a person who is strong will never get possesed or leaded on.i read this somewhere or heard it somewhere cant quite remember.

i know when im talking to spirit,i sense them and i sometimes see them,and as soon as i read undermanagers post,i saw this man and what i told undermanger about him is what spirit gave me,because spirit wanted me to help him understand that this spirit was not a threat.

i could stand in a room and tell you whether a spirit is good or not good.but also i may get it wrong  buts thats just being human

love god bless love juditha

i remember it was called a haunting in connetticut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJA3lN0xCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPn0G6DO1w&feature=fvw

this is the link

love and god bless love juditha

Juditha, if I may have your permission, I'd like to further our discussion via PM. Despite the fact that I disagree with your associations of your abilities and God, I no longer wish to paint you in a negative light anywhere on these forums. It was wrong of me to try and originally do so but everything happens for a reason and I quickly realized the error of what I had done. Once again, apologies for everything.

Waiting on your permission to send a PM.

Alarm Clock:

Please just make certain that you become more clear about some of your own fear based ideas, before you pass them onto Juditha.

People who have made contact with unfriendly spirits have found that even though they have hostile intentions, when it comes right down to it, they are quite weak when they meet up with a person who chooses a higher way.

The main problem I have with the Satan based viewpoint is that people who believe in Satan give unfriendly spirits more credit that they deserve, and cause many people to be afraid in a manner that is very destructive an unnecessary.

I wonder if there are more people in this World who are tormented by unfriendly spirits, or people who are tormented by the fear based concepts of others.

Juditha doesn't need you to turn her onto Jesus, because she already has a big place in her heart for him. It is better that she relates to him in a manner that suits her, rather than according to somebody else's paradigm.

I can't say which spirit Juditha communicates with on every occassion,  but she has sharred a couple of experiences where a friendly spirit tried to help her see that she doesn't need to be afraid of unfriendly spirits. I believe it is important to not intefere with how they have tried to help her.

Unless you have extensive experience communicating with spirits, I don't see how you can "know" what doing so is about.


AlarmClock wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2010 at 4:48am:

Juditha, if I may have your permission, I'd like to further our discussion via PM. Despite the fact that I disagree with your associations of your abilities and God, I no longer wish to paint you in a negative light anywhere on these forums. It was wrong of me to try and originally do so but everything happens for a reason and I quickly realized the error of what I had done. Once again, apologies for everything. Waiting on your permission to send a PM.

fanaticism is dangerious, no matter what the belief, and "imposing" your spiritual beliefs upon anouther has nothing to do with being good, or being close to God. When I explore the other energies and areas of my consciousness, I fine little that is evil, and much more of what I dont understand. I have yet to be confronted by a "Satan". I doubt I ever will be. But I have found myself closer to my God. Perhaps we find what we need, or what we are looking for. So if your looking to find the evil in things, you surely will. If your looking to find the good, or the love in things, thats just what your going to find. Perhaps it is better to make the decision on what we are looking for..   

undermanager...

I too have experienced this same thing.  Although I don't remember anything quite like this from childhood, I have experienced it within the past 5 years. 

Every once and a while I will wake up out of a deep sleep because I feel like someone is standing over me.  I have seen a "shadow" with a head and arms standing beside my bed and even leaning over me.  Most of the time I just got so scared and would roll over and cover my head with the blanket, willing myself to fall asleep.  Over the past several months I have been determined to not fear whatever or whoever it is...the last time it woke me up and stood over me (it was waving its hands over me in a rhythmic fashion) I decided to swat at it.  It didn't go away, so I just rolled over and said, "I'm not interested right now."  I haven't seen it since, although every once and a while I still get the feeling that something is standing next to my bed.

It's never harmed me and it's been hanging around for a while, I'm not too concerned at this point.

Good luck to you...I hope you find the answers you seek.

"I'm not interested right now."

LOL!  I rolled over one night and snarled "What??" at a shadow being once...it went away...

Kinda bummed, because I'd have liked to talk to it...just not at 3 in the freakin' morning!

I did hear a very clear male, but I don't think John's, voice say "Cricket?" to me last night, but when I said "What?" (in a much more pleasant voice than the last one), he never answered.   :(

It was very clearly from my left, about the height someone would be at if kneeling by my bed...kind of put out with it that it went to the trouble to be so clear in the physical, and then disappeared.