For starts: Hi EVERYONE,
have been on journey. Do remember that I missed you all, each step of my way. Theres not been a week gone by that I didnt think of my experience with you guys. Thank you so much for being. ;-)

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The Dream:

For quite some time now I had been secretly wondering, how it had been for my father when he passed over. Firstly let me tell any "Newcomers" (as the Oldtimers here probably know this already) this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SECRET THOUGHT!

In any case, in my dream I was driving a car, along a road which runs alongside a slanted slope. At the bottom of the slope theres railroad tracks running simutaneously along the path of the road.

In the dream I am enjoying this ride, I am not speeding, nothing of the sort (although I am known for my leadfoot! ;D)

I drove in an approx. 23% right curve... when I notice ahead of me, that there was a collision of other vehicles, this I noticed when I came out of the curve. I didnt slam on my brakes, wasnt even too shocked, simply tried to slow down when all of the sudden I came off of the road and find myself tumbling head over down the slope with my car. It tipped over 4 times, altogether before it came to a halt on the roof next to the railroad tracks. :-/

"IN that INSTANT". That fragment of "a second" in what we call moment, I am then standing outside of the car, right next to it.

Looking to my right, I notice people coming down the hill. One fella holding his right arm (it has a bandage on it) he has a scratch on his head and its bleeding a tad. Behind him was a lady whom also was coming towards me, she looked a bit confused but n one was hysterical, okay.

So I turned my head slightly to the left and see that a train had also had a wreck. Right about then I notice my dad coming from a far towards me and I am somewhat confused then. :-? As he gets within speaking distance to me (He did not move his lips, this was done via Telepathy - which I distinctively remember thinking in the dream).

I said to him "Hey, whats goin on here?" and then he proceeds to motion for me to look at the car, (I am still standing right next to the drivers side) I look down and see my body smushed in between the roof and the car body. I feel my eyebrow thingy up in its usual way, and I say : "Whoa Pop, thats impossible, look here are my legs, I can see them and you can hear me slap em" (and I am slapping both of my hands onto the top of my legs - I destinctively remember hearing the typical slapping noise which you can try out yourself right now!)

So heres what he says to me:
"I wanted you to know what it feels like".

I wake up.

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Now lets keep an eye  on the highlighted words I used up there. It gave me a wonderful insight which I believe to have been real.

Moreso, my chest the very same day was brusied as to where the seatbelt had been in my dream and I slapped so hard on my legs that these had 2 bruises on them, plus I felt like I couldnt walk as my legs hurt so badly for almost a week, my neck was stiff as if I had injured it.

My Partner even noticed this.

However what gets me the most is the "splitt second" inwhich I find myself outside of my car at the bottom of the slope. It felt like when you open up a shower door to get out of the shower, and step out. Like that "breeze" that hits your skin.

Folks, this was truely amazing for me.

Love ya,
Nanner

Hi Nanner,

Welcome back!

Whether it's a dream ('night vision') or an OBE would be affected by where your father is now.  Is he living or has he passed? 
Either way, it seems he is in pain from injuries and wants you to know it. It wouldn't have to be physical injuries from a wreck; instead it could be emotional injuries, which are harder to visualize.

If you could say more about his situation,  more interpretation would be possible, probably.

So how are you?

Bets

A quite vivid demonstration!

Spooky

Nanner:

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For quite some time now I had been secretly wondering, how it had been for my father when he passed over

from what i'm reading here you father as passed over; and you did ask (secretly wondering) how and maybe the feeling of how it happen.
Well i gess you got your wish..:)
quite an experience i may say.
Rom

I've always thought that one of the most difficult things for a person who doesn't believe in the afterlife to appreciate is that their body (now dead) is lying near them, lifeless, and that people around them can't see or hear them.  How frustrating.  Like you said, Nanner, you could slap your thighs, and see your astral body as if it were your physical one.

Perhaps this was his experience, that he was "ok" but couldn't understand the transition.


Welcome back,

Matthew

betson wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 6:00pm:

Hi Nanner, Welcome back! Whether it's a dream ('night vision') or an OBE would be affected by where your father is now.  Is he living or has he passed?  Either way, it seems he is in pain from injuries and wants you to know it. It wouldn't have to be physical injuries from a wreck; instead it could be emotional injuries, which are harder to visualize. If you could say more about his situation,  more interpretation would be possible, probably. So how are you? Bets

Hi Bets :-)
He has passed since 1998.
The remarkable part I find is: That months prior to this dream, I remember secretly harbouring the thought of "I wonder how it must have been for him, as a humanbeing, when he passed" Whereby my thought was moreso pinned on the "transition moment"... And when I got through the dream in retro, I suppose I recieved my answer, maybe  :-/.

Licht,
Nanner

Romain wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:26pm:

Nanner: Quote:   For quite some time now I had been secretly wondering, how it had been for my father when he passed over  from what i'm reading here you father as passed over; and you did ask (secretly wondering) how and maybe the feeling of how it happen. Well i gess you got your wish..:) quite an experience i may say. Rom

Rom, yes indeed I did recieved it, alright. Of course it doesnt "stop" there unfortunately..Now I have even more questions...lol...

Spooky, YES whew; very very vivid.

Hugs to you both,
Nanner

DocM wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:52pm:

I've always thought that one of the most difficult things for a person who doesn't believe in the afterlife to appreciate is that their body (now dead) is lying near them, lifeless, and that people around them can't see or hear them.  How frustrating.  Like you said, Nanner, you could slap your thighs, and see your astral body as if it were your physical one. Perhaps this was his experience, that he was "ok" but couldn't understand the transition. Welcome back, Matthew

Thank you for the welcome Matthew, you have a good point there. >> he was okay but couldnt understand the transition. After all, the same "thought process" happened to me at that moment, right?

How does all of this tie into Quantum Physics where, there is no "there and then, but rather only a here and a now"?

It felt so "real" guys, soooo real.

Hugs,
Nanner

Hi Nanner,

Take a big deep breath and say, ' Yes, it's amazingly true!  It answered my wonderings!'
Then see what happens soon after that   :)

Anyone can think up more questions. You even already know the answer to the question you asked about time.  You've previously discussed here ''There is NO time in the afterlife."

You are an artful dodger, Nanner!  :)

Bets

Chapel Hill is cold and wt and their basketball team is losing.  You picked a good time to not be there any more!  :)

Nanner, you said:
"Moreso, my chest the very same day was brusied as to where the seatbelt had been in my dream and I slapped so hard on my legs that these had 2 bruises on them, plus I felt like I couldnt walk as my legs hurt so badly for almost a week, my neck was stiff as if I had injured it.

My Partner even noticed this."

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This part has me 'floored'. Wow. Couldn't really feel more 'real' than that, could it?

I would expect you to instantly leave your body in such a situation. A car crash, a train wreck, a physical situation in which there was simply no room for you to 'be' anymore.

How amazing that you received such a message. I think I might be a little 'mad' if I had actual bruises after such an encounter, though. A bit too much for me. But, congrats on your contact, and your message!

betson wrote on Dec 7^th, 2009 at 2:59pm:

Hi Nanner, Take a big deep breath and say, ' Yes, it's amazingly true!  It answered my wonderings!' Then see what happens soon after that   :) Anyone can think up more questions. You even already know the answer to the question you asked about time.  You've previously discussed here ''There is NO time in the afterlife." You are an artful dodger, Nanner!  :) Bets Chapel Hill is cold and wt and their basketball team is losing.  You picked a good time to not be there any more!  :)

Alright Bets,
whats an artful dodger?  :-?

Tell ya, sometimes this whole subject drives me almost looney - almost - that is...lol.. or am I it already. Just as I persume to have a grip on it, I then realise that I merely caught onto a ripple of the subject Afterlife..  >:( Makes Nanner mad at times, thats when I through my studie books in a corner like a spoiled brat and pout like a 10 yr old.. (You`d laugh your butt off watchin that happen every once in a while, I guess I havent tossed the "childlike" in me)

I am only convinced that there is no such thing as TIME, because it doesnt resonate with me, how REAL my dreams can be. The only logic for my sanity would be that there is NO timeline, otherwise I couldnt be there (dreamstate) (OBE) and here at the same "time"..lol.. (for the lack of a better word). I just decided I dont like that word anymore..lol..

Sometimes I dont feel like I wrote some of the friggin words I read afterwards - (like in the thread about 2012) and then other times they spew out like I am some friggin Scientist or something. Wheres this poop out of my head coming from...

And dont you dare...lol. :D.. joke about as possible multiple personality thingy Bets...lol.. I would laugh too hard about myself tonight.

I really do feel its amazingly true, and here comes the drum role... I then say (typical female like) ..."what if ...." and blow the wet dream, right then and there! LOL

Whats it gonna take Bets? Whats it really gonna take?

Aaaaaah, Chapel Hill - wonderful memories.  ::) I have been trying to find a very dear friend of my heart for years ever since I left there. Maybe fate will allow us to speak each other again. I send PUL every week at least once to him. Absolute beautiful soul.

Bets, take me under your wings and teach me.
Hugs,
Nanner

wrote on Dec 7^th, 2009 at 3:50pm:

Nanner, you said: "Moreso, my chest the very same day was brusied as to where the seatbelt had been in my dream and I slapped so hard on my legs that these had 2 bruises on them, plus I felt like I couldnt walk as my legs hurt so badly for almost a week, my neck was stiff as if I had injured it. My Partner even noticed this." --------- This part has me 'floored'. Wow. Couldn't really feel more 'real' than that, could it? I would expect you to instantly leave your body in such a situation. A car crash, a train wreck, a physical situation in which there was simply no room for you to 'be' anymore. How amazing that you received such a message. I think I might be a little 'mad' if I had actual bruises after such an encounter, though. A bit too much for me. But, congrats on your contact, and your message!

B2,
you were floored by reading it. Can you even begin to imagine how floored I was and how confused I was for days. I am still a little wacky on my legs and its been weeks ago. Yes, I guess one could qualify this as a unique experience, but one question: Why cant I learn to do such (luzid dreaming)on command >> at least I`d be somewhat prepared for certain things. But like I said, there are no secret thoughts. NOONE but I knew what I had been harbouring inside my little heart. The wish of wanting to know what it must have felt like for my dad. and then (drum role) heeeeeeeeeeeeeres Daddy and tells me "exactly what I wanted to hear" >> I just wanted you to know what it felt like.. Hmmmmm.
I am still in awe, somewhat.

Hugs,
Nanner

added note:
I am a wierd child anyway, on that note. My sister in NC hurts her toe and what happens to Nanner in Germany >> I get the bruise on my toe same foot. I call her up and ask her "whats wrong with your toe Kris"? She laughs amd says its your left one, isnt it. I dont think its funny anymore...LOL.. I look like a rampaged BMW. for all the people I am connected to arent very careful.. LOL..

or this.... my mom several years ago burnt herself whilst placeing a cake in the oven, she burnt herself right in the crease of the inside of the arm, what happens to Nanner over 500 miles away >> she suddenly gets an unexplainable burn mark right there. Didnt understand that one until I went to visit my mom and she had a bandage on her arm.

or..
My partner can every once and a while look to deep into a beerglass and gets plastered, right... well who has to puke because of it. Yep, you guessed it Nanner.. I cant be the safe driver, as if he drinks I am the one whom gets swipsy and cant drive and have not a drop of Alc in my bloodstream. Its sooooooo so wierd.. but funny at times. He will goof with me in a party using it as his magic trick for his friends, the butthead.

Hi Nanner, All,

Every acceptance you have of the non-physical realms-- through physics, dreams, etc, whatever you find acceptable -- will open more and more windows into the non-physical for you.
There's no turning back now, Nanner,
You are on your way!

Bets

An 'artful dodger' is a person who is cleverly avoiding something aimed at/ for them.  That something could be the truth of non-physical realities  :)

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I am only convinced that there is no such thing as TIME, because it doesnt resonate with me, how REAL my dreams can be. The only logic for my sanity would be that there is NO timeline, otherwise I couldnt be there (dreamstate) (OBE) and here at the same "time"..lol..

Greetings Nanner.

   If you mean to say that TIME doesn't exist in dreams, then I agree. I have had dreams that lasted for days while in them, but lasted only minutes in the physical world. I do believe that linear TIME does exist for us while in the physical, for the accuracy of atomic clocks has been proven many times over by scientists.
I believe that this world is just one reality, while dreams and the afterlife are seperate realities.

   When you say that you feel injuries from others, especially family, then I think you have strong empathic abilities. I sometimes feel like an empath as well. It's a good quality to have, which with enough development can enable you to have healing powers as well.

Ralph

what.. 8-)

Tom Campbell has an interesting theory that while there is still time in NPMR the time passes much slower to allow for adjustments to be made to our physical matter reality and that is one reason why dreams pass so much quicker in reference to our physical time period. It has to do with delta t vs DELTA T where time appears to slow down so very much. He's worth reading for the mechanics of non physical reality. Very interesting.

What 'what'? :D
An empath? Non-linear time?

Bets

Ralph Buskey wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 3:30am:

Quote: I am only convinced that there is no such thing as TIME, because it doesnt resonate with me, how REAL my dreams can be. The only logic for my sanity would be that there is NO timeline, otherwise I couldnt be there (dreamstate) (OBE) and here at the same "time"..lol.. Greetings Nanner.    If you mean to say that TIME doesn't exist in dreams, then I agree. I have had dreams that lasted for days while in them, but lasted only minutes in the physical world. I do believe that linear TIME does exist for us while in the physical, for the accuracy of atomic clocks has been proven many times over by scientists. I believe that this world is just one reality, while dreams and the afterlife are seperate realities.    When you say that you feel injuries from others, especially family, then I think you have strong empathic abilities. I sometimes feel like an empath as well. It's a good quality to have, which with enough development can enable you to have healing powers as well. Ralph

Hi Ralph and good evening to All,
Put the car in reverse gear Ralph and square me away a bit more to this subject. Ergo in re: empathic abilities How can my waking up with brusies, a stif neck and leg pains after a dream be positive for me?  :-? I mean, hey if I wake up with a lollipop in my hands or better yet a bag full of gold coins from 1500 BC then okay, I would consider that an advantage but me feeling the pain of others and then to top it off get their actual laisons kinda makes me want to completely STAY AWAY from people..ok ..lol.... ::)

and.... Linear Time.... isnt that "man made". Ancient cultures like Incan, Mayan, Hopi, and other Native American Tribes, plus the Babylonian, Ancient Greek, Hindu, Buddhist, Jainist, and others have a concept of a wheel of time, it regards time as cyclical and quantic consisting of repeating ages that happen to every being of the Universe between birth and extinction.

However what I mean is: whilst I am in La la Dreamland beatin the crap out of my legs (he he he), my soul is traveling, right? I, as a physical body however am right here in my cozy snug as a bug in rug bed at the SAME MOMENT, so that tells me there can not be no such real thing as time. Follow me? :-?

Hugs,
Nanner

It sounds like you are by passing sleep paralysis for some reason.

Beau wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:

It sounds like you are by passing sleep paralysis for some reason.

Okay Beau, thank you for that thought. Now your talking my branch of business. I know that Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists. This leaves the person fully conscious, but unable to move.

and ... I dont believe thats whats happening to me during "these episodes" of dreamwandering. Romain needs to maybe tell me what he thinks on this too.

I think you are onto something though.  :-?Remember one of my previous threads...the one inwhich I explain how.... I woke up to a light coming out of my bathroom and walked to the edge of my bedpost to "safely" see into that direction, wherby my dad standing in the bathroom, in midst of this ever so, non discribeable light.... then tells me "to shut up and watch"...

Well... that seemed like Sleep paralysis, to me... because I destinctively remember turning to my right and "seeing my body" still laying in my bed. And exactly that startled me in the "what I call dream"..

Thx guys for all your input and help.
Nanner

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Put the car in reverse gear Ralph and square me away a bit more to this subject. Ergo in re: empathic abilities How can my waking up with brusies, a stif neck and leg pains after a dream be positive for me?   I mean, hey if I wake up with a lollipop in my hands or better yet a bag full of gold coins from 1500 BC then okay, I would consider that an advantage but me feeling the pain of others and then to top it off get their actual laisons kinda makes me want to completely STAY AWAY from people..ok ..lol....

Greetings Nanner.

   The symptoms you've been having are a common trait with empaths, as in taking on other's illnesses like mentioned here:
http://healing.about.com/od/empathic/a/empathdiscuss.htm

   I never said that would be a good thing for you; just that it could be a reason for it. As far as time goes; time is a continuous successions of nows. How one may decide to measure the succession of nows is debatable, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it does happen. Without time there would be no change, no history, and no future.

Ralph

But time is a construct, Ralph, I'm pretty sure we agree there. It appears we have history but as you said it's a series of NOWS. There is only this moment really and all the rest, well, It seems to me that everything is happening at the same time, even the holocaust and the crusades and 911...They happen when we render it in our minds. Albeit on a different plane or we would really be messed up.

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There is only this moment really and all the rest, well, It seems to me that everything is happening at the same time, even the holocaust and the crusades and 911...They happen when we render it in our minds. Albeit on a different plane or we would really be messed up.

Greetings Beau.

   Take a look at what you said and reconsider your stance. If everything is happening at this moment, then how is it that you answered my post over 6 hours after I made it? How could music occur if there was no time? How could light travel over a distance at 299,792,458 meters per second without time?

   I have personally experienced my own existence outside of physical plane space/time; yet always return back to where I left off in it's continual precise measurement of seconds and days. I may be very science minded, but I'm very open minded to non physical reality as well. Just because some people devised a concept of everything neatly wrapped up in one moment, doesn't make it so.

   I prefer using logic to understand life. God, the afterlife, other dimensions, etc. can all be described using logic. Stating that time doesn't exist seems to me to be the most illogical idea that anyone could believe in. I could be wrong, but I'll place all my chips on the existence of time bet.

   Has it occured to anyone that more than one timeline may exist? There could be linear time, cyclic time where the mobius loop could come into play, and like it is beyond the physical existence, eternal, yet unmeasurable time that can be perceived differently by different observers.

Ralph

Sorry Ralph I wasn't clear. Time as we consider it is a construct of the physical dimension we live in. It is an illusion that time passes. There is a great scientific paper on how photons communicate from huge distances with no time passing at all between them....faster than the speed of light by a long shot. It's not a theory that everyone jumps on so I can understand if you want to believe in time, but remember that your obes and dreams only last a few seconds in our time and yet they may seem almost endless during the cycle. That's what I mean about time being illusion and that all history is being lived at once in slightly different dimensions allows us to imagine it, but that's better explained by someone besides me. I think about it, but I don't pay much attention to who wrote what.

   I understand what you're trying to say about time being an illusion, but I don't agree with the semantics of using the term illusion. I know many religious and esoteric studies say that the physical world is maya which is another word for illusion.

   I may be going on thin ice to stand apart on my belief, but I don't consider the maya concept as correct. The physical world is not an illusion to me, but an aspect of reality that is a seperate reality from other realities as well. I consider everything as reality.

   It's when scientists stand on the belief that the physical universe is all that is, makes the adepts at esoteric studies counter with remarking that the physical world is just an illusion. By comparing this world to other planes of existence and other dimensions, they are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

   I want to be able to explain why I believe the way I do so you or others can grasp the reason why I believe this. I'll try working on a thesis about my belief that everything is real and maya is a false concept.

Ralph

I don't know about maya per se but I've been reading Tom Campbelll and he makes a good argument for time and that our physical matter reality is a virtual reality. IT seems a little crazy to just blurt it out but I think it is a book we all should take a shot at sometime. You can read most of it on google books. He makes a lot of sense though  his comprehension of time and mine differ slightly.

Here this may help explain what I mean: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/does-death-exist-new-theo_b_384515.html#postComment

Greetings Beau.

   I read the link you gave and I don't agree with their concepts. However, I did search for Tom Campbell and his "My Big Toe" and found the review you were talking about:
http://sites.google.com/site/iscatus/review-of-my-big-t
   I like his concepts and agree with them very much. He's even science minded like me.    :)
No where in his book review article does it have him say that Time is an illusion. Rather, he confirms what I've been trying to say all along:

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NPMR time But in our NPMR, the smallest fundamental Time unit might be 10-62 seconds. In other words, NPMR Reality cells oscillate much faster. So for every 1018 ticks of NPMR time, 1 unit of our time passes. Information travels much faster in NPMR. This gives plenty of time for TBC to do everything required to predict and back up PMR events in its databases (the Akashic records). Another even easier way of modelling this is to compare it to computer code: nested loops. PMR time is nested inside NPMR time. A unit of PMR time occurs; once it is recorded and all significant probable futures computed, then the next increment of PMR time (delta-t) is “called” by the procedure. AUM’s Time Beyond NPMR, AUM’s fundamental quantum of time might be (say) 10-80 seconds.  So AUM has plenty of time to review all the various thought-experiments taking place in all its myriad VRs. To AUM we are stepped-down, and slowed down; very sluggish indeed. In my opinion, this explanation of Time and Frequency is Tom Campbell’s most original contribution. It updates Spiritualist and Theosophical notions of concentric spheres separated by “vibrational” differences. Far from Time being meaningless in the hereafter, MBT suggests that is actually very meaningful. Time is what separates realities and allows AUO to multi-task by way of TBC. Whether or not there are 5 or 10 or 11 physical dimensions in our PMR is not helpful to an understanding of the nature of reality, because reality is not fundamentally geometric. Our PMR rules do not subsume the whole of reality; they only apply to us. We in our particular PMR are compared to inhabitants of E.A. Abbott’s Flatland. But ‘Big Truth’ Reality comprises conceptual VRs in a vast number of time-separated dimensions, each with their own personally evolved rule-set.

   I would love to buy the book, but my wife just lost her HHA nursing assignment again and I'm still unemployed, so poverty time again.

Ralph

Yes, Tom does not say Time is an illusion. He says it is a construct..which to me means that at some point it did not exist and it is merely a means of traveling space which doesn't exist either. It's all information being processed by our IUOCs which is Campbell speak for Individuated Units of Consciousness. He is pretty cool. I learned a lot from him. Perhaps my use of the word Illusion is wrong and that we are more eye to eye to than it seems on this.

You can read most of the book on Google Books for free.

Greetings Beau.

   I found the book "My Big Toe" on Google Books like you said would be there:
http://books.google.com/books?id=6To0902iZeYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=my+big+toe+thomas+campbell&ei=ubAhS9_fA6PqygS_1JWkCg&cd=3#v=onepage&q=&f=true

   I'll read it when I can get the time. You're right, we are actually closer than we thought to agreeing on Time. Once again, semantics gets in the way. Unfortunately, it's the only way to share information in this world. If I could only get to F27 and meet you there, we could exchange ROTE on the subject.

Ralph

That would be very cool Ralph.

Okay...lol.. I am very glad that you two agree on the subject time, but what about the little ole Nanner.
Beau, think I too said a maybe misleading word in my thread by suggesting time is an illusion. YOU however know what the silly Nanner :D was thinking.

"Time is what separates realities and allows AUO to multi-task by way of TBC.": I strongly disagree. I firmly believe it is the "frequency" which seperates the realities. And anyone whom intentionally mediates to OOB should back me on that, as it can be 5:00, 18:00 or 24:00 hours in our TIMELINE yet you wont go anywhere consciously unless you learn to flip the switch on the frequency. right? :-?

Nanner scratching her head...lol..

Greetings Nanner.

   Didn't mean to hijack your thread and go off on a time tangent. It's just such a fascinating topic to me that I get carried away with it. Only one more mention of time though as here is a good compilation of all thoughts regarding time made by Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time

   I like your concept of frequency shift rather than time shift to change focus levels. All time means to me is a word representing a continuous succession of nows. Frequency, however, maintains integrity as a measured oscillation allowing something resembling space to come into play.

   Without space, where would we be? Focus levels could possibly be in the same space as the physical universe, but coexisting out of phase with us in our incarnate existence by maintaining a different frequency or vibrational rate.

   I've pondered this issue most of my life and am always open to any new sources of information. When I finally become adept at leaving my body and/or phasing my consciousness into different focus levels while retaining memory, then I can devise a decent theory of my own. Hopefully with all of our collaboration, we can formulate a reasonable understanding. Sort of how partnered exploration of the afterlife has helped in understanding what is most likely true.

Ralph

I definitely agree with you Nan. Frequency is a metaphor but it is absolutely essential to grasping the concept from the physical plane. Our brains are like radio receivers and we can tune wherever we need to be even consciously. My morning writings are coming from some where that I post in off topic and I just keep pushing them out. But I don't know where it comes from exactly.