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Message started by Kardec on Aug 27th, 2009 at 4:09pm

Title: Somebody knows why...
Post by Kardec on Aug 27th, 2009 at 4:09pm
Hi folks

Does anybody here know why did God start to create counsciousness others than Himself? in other words why do we exist? It was love? Curiosity? Lonelyness?

Ibelieve that we are "He" in smaller parts and whatever He is looking for is the same as us!

Who knows.... What are your thoughts?

Let me take a tip from your gentle way of tell something about your vision of a subject. ;)

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by recoverer on Aug 27th, 2009 at 5:38pm
Kardec:

I believe that love, curiosity and loneliness could all apply.  I wouldn't want to exist for all of eternity all by myself.  When it comes to love, I believe it would be quite natural to make it so numerous other beings get to share the glory of existence.  When it comes to curiousity, how could God find out what's possible without allowing the creative aspect of his being to do some exploring?

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by b2 on Aug 27th, 2009 at 7:15pm
Creative intelligence? Ever expanding? Perhaps that is the only reason needed?

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by spooky2 on Aug 27th, 2009 at 9:03pm
The step from oneness to diversity is a mystery, and remains a mystery. It is like to answer how there is a beginning when there is no time. We want to know, yes, but let's be honest, there's no explanation, no answer which we can comprehend.

Spooky

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by Kardec on Aug 28th, 2009 at 3:38pm
Thank you all

recoverer I'm with you ;)

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by CharleyTuna on Aug 30th, 2009 at 10:49pm
What about the loosh rote ?
Far Journeys page 162

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by spooky2 on Aug 30th, 2009 at 11:53pm
The loosh thing certainly doesn't relate to the question why and how there ever had been the change from absolute oneness to the impression of being separated (if that is correctly put at all). I would embed the loosh concept later in the spiritual cosmogony, something which had developed during the age of diversity/separation.

Spooky

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by balance on Aug 31st, 2009 at 3:42am
To me ,its about expansion and experience.

My guess, the God light force, needs to have its energy levels continually upgraded.And as we expand our consciousness, we serve the all that is.


Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by spooky2 on Aug 31st, 2009 at 10:51pm
Must be hard to think you need an upgrade and then to realize you are all what's there so you can't get an energy boost from somewhere else  :D . Being God must be a tough job. Nah, it can't be that way...

Spooky

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by balance on Sep 1st, 2009 at 12:55am
Maybe its the struggle through the incarnation tests, the overcoming of the illusion and returning back to the god light force/love. That is what increases the energy flow.

What would be the point of incarnation if not for the god force to increase its energy level. In any point as we evolve our energy level lifts, we become lighter , I'm sure you've felt some shift within your being, through this incarnation.

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by recoverer on Sep 1st, 2009 at 12:52pm
Perhaps Loosh does relate.

One night I was wondering where love comes from, and I was shown a page number. I wondered what book this page could be found in, decided to look at Far Journeys, and then found the page about how high level Loosh becomes love. I think page 175.

On another occasion I wondered about Loosh, was shown another page number, and it turns out that there is a page where Robert Monroe speaks about Loosh in Far Journeys, other than the 2 chapters about Loosh. I hadn't realized this, because I hadn't read the entire book.

On another occasion I had a dream, and it seemed to suggest that divine will allowed the Loosh plan. I'm not 100% certain about this.

If you think of it, our energy can be used to create all kinds of things. We want to get to the point where we create love, so we can hook up energetically with other beings who do the same. Perhaps once love energy is created, it doesn't go away. It accumulates at its own energetic level. The more beings such as our self create love, the more the energy of love accumulates.

Perhaps love vibrates at a high frequency and can convert lower forms of loosh to love energy.

I'm not suggesting that the love creation process started with us--we just happen to be one of the ways in which it is created.

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by spooky2 on Sep 1st, 2009 at 10:19pm
Yes, but you'll admit that Loosh and PUL simply loose their meaning when we look at an alleged "primary state", where there was nothing but God as pure oneness. I think it was in Bruce's story about how it all began (book 4) where he told that PUL somehow has a glue function, making all parts/probes sent out to return to their source, and this is a point in this kinda spiritual history when there already had been separation, or at least cores of individuality existing.

Spooky

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by Ralph Buskey on Sep 2nd, 2009 at 9:48pm
Another reason is to have more musicians to help create music that makes life more enjoyable.   :-)

Sincerely,
Ralph

Title: Re: Somebody knows why...
Post by Griffin on Sep 2nd, 2009 at 11:30pm
I relate to the mosaic of all of your responses, I don't hear a note out of place.

The song title doesn't work for me though...

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