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Message started by betson on Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:10am

Title: 'The Divine Matrix' idea of prayer
Post by betson on Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:10am
Hi

In Gregg Braden's book "The Divine Matrix' many discussions overlap Bruce Moen's information. Bruce's works predate this matrix book and have been proven by those who practice them.

So I'm a bit perplexed by a difference in Braden's understanding of prayer and Bruce's 'setting intent.' Braden says that as soon as we've thought of a prayer (for example for healing) it's sent and received.  Bruce has advised us to firmly set our intent before imagining the result.

When I use Bruce's method, I feel a response of energy back, but nothing happens when I use Brade'ns method.
Do you think one method is stronger, has more effect than the other ?

Bets

Title: Re: 'The Divine Matrix' idea of prayer
Post by DocM on Jun 30th, 2009 at 9:48pm
Hi Bets,

Here is my take on it.  Prayer is most effective when intent is set at the deepest level, where intent merges with belief.  That is why, in healing circles you hear interesting methods of achieving this such as giving thanks for the healing before it has happened.  Feeling joyful, laughing, cultivating the feeling of the healing prior to it happening.  Seeing the ill person in your mind as smiling, dancing or laughing, free of their illness.

This is the difference between spiritual healing and prayer as most people know it.  Prayer is often thought of as supplication.  Throwing ourselves on the mercy of God, with the fear of a negative outcome.  This type of prayer is, in my opinion often impotent.  It does not harness our intent coupled to our deep belief in the outcome.  In short, it does not let our thoughts create reality in the real world, because supplication prayer is said, with thoughts working at cross purposes.  

Matthew

Title: Re: 'The Divine Matrix' idea of prayer
Post by betson on Jul 1st, 2009 at 12:05pm
Thanks DocM,

You said:"" Seeing the ill person in your mind
as smiling, dancing or laughing, free of their illness."

Thank you for the reminder! Braden also emphasizes emotions' importance. I do tend to get too somber about most everything.
I'll try to 'raise my spirits.'  (Where is the sprite Alysia anyway?!)  

Bets

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