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Message started by Still_Living on Jun 25th, 2009 at 7:37pm

Title: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Still_Living on Jun 25th, 2009 at 7:37pm
I'm not a big fan of M. Jackson, but this is quite shocking news...
RIP...
Is anyone here going to check on his transition?

SL

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by moonsandjunes on Jun 26th, 2009 at 8:06am
So many more than just me have shed genuine tears of loss over this man. Michael will be missed, RIP.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Petrus on Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:05am
I know I haven't been back to this site for a while.

Unfortunately my vibratory rate isn't as high now as it was, as I am currently living with family, and I find it very difficult to stay as positive as I used to be; so retrieval is much more difficult now for me than it was, in terms of receiving information.  I find it very difficult to stay as wide open to PUL as I should, with some of the things a brother of mine does at times.

However, my feeling with Michael Jackson is that he is fine.  I actually was just listening to an mp3 of Man in the Mirror, during which I mentally said goodbye; I didn't know the man personally of course, but I have some of his songs, and like them a lot.

While I was doing that though, I tried going to the solar plane which I envision myself being on when I banish, and set intent that he would be given help to find his way if he needed it.

My last related mental visual, was not of him, but of a setting sun breaking through some clouds; I also felt very calm.

I would ask everyone here not to allow the child abuse allegations to become the entirety of how you think of, or remember Michael Jackson.  I believe he was an individual who, while like all of us was not perfect, wanted to have a positive impact on the people around him, and was obviously able to do so.

It is my hope that he reaches Focus 27, and is met by people he loves, to the extent that that is relevant for him.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by tgecks on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:51am
I simply could not resist it, you know. So I went out looking. He overdosed. I found him still confused and not really fully aware he has passed over as yet and in the near rings, in Monroe speak 23ish. He seemed very groggy, and did not "speak" but seemed at least aware that something was there. I could not get his attention; he kept "nodding out" and seems to have quite a number of guide energies gathered around him. I KNOW he will be fine, but I would guess he will need some time in the Healing and Rejuvenation Center. In most other experiences I have perceived the passed-one as glowing and happy and at peace; there  was none of that as yet here, but it is the certain outcome. It will hardly be peaceful for him as so many express their grief, and I trust the guides will hold him in their golden loving arms. It is still so fresh...

Thomas

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by recoverer on Jun 26th, 2009 at 12:25pm
If he's guilty of what people claimed he was guilty of, he'll probably have to get to the point where he's willing to admit that it was wrong for him to do what he did. Child molestors tend to justify what they do.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people who believe that if you don't believe in a particular way, you'll end up in hell for all of eternity. Perhaps some of these people who are Michael Jackson fans will become concerned about his welfare, and question their viewpoints.

I'm certain that there are loving light beings who are looking out for his welfare, but what he decides does play a role.

He'll find out that life isn't about being the king of pop. There are more important things.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Petrus on Jun 26th, 2009 at 8:38pm

tgecks wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:51am:
He seemed very groggy, and did not "speak" but seemed at least aware that something was there.


Hey tgecks,
My very initial feeling on first looking in on him wasn't so good; truthfully I'd suspected an overdose as well.  As you say, it will probably take him a while, but I am sure he will be ok in the end; he would have a lot of people watching him at the moment, I suspect.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by moonsandjunes on Jun 27th, 2009 at 10:21am
I had decided not to add anymore comments to this thread, but what I read this morning caused me to pause for thought. Although courts can acquit people of crimes they are accused of, it seems to me that hearing it from someone's own mouth is better. I don't know if this article is correct, but all kinds of people can now come 'out of the woodwork' to tell us things we did not know before.

http://trashselector.com/evan-chandler-i-lied-for-my-father-im-sorry-michael/

Apparently, there are inaccuracies in the above article, for anyone who might notice. But the story is flying around. Lots of stories take on a life of their own.

Like I said, I don't actually know what is true, and I don't really want to be involved in that discussion. Let me know what is really true before I draw any conclusion about any person anywhere. Maybe this article is a complete lie.

Who really knows what is true in this world? I don't, and I won't pretend I do know.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jun 27th, 2009 at 10:39pm

tgecks wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:51am:
I simply could not resist it, you know. So I went out looking. He overdosed. I found him still confused and not really fully aware he has passed over as yet and in the near rings, in Monroe speak 23ish. He seemed very groggy, and did not "speak" but seemed at least aware that something was there. I could not get his attention; he kept "nodding out" and seems to have quite a number of guide energies gathered around him. I KNOW he will be fine, but I would guess he will need some time in the Healing and Rejuvenation Center. In most other experiences I have perceived the passed-one as glowing and happy and at peace; there  was none of that as yet here, but it is the certain outcome. It will hardly be peaceful for him as so many express their grief, and I trust the guides will hold him in their golden loving arms. It is still so fresh...

Thomas


I personally have been devastated. I didn't think I'd take the news of his passing so hard.

As a child of the 80's, he was a big part of me growing up. Losing him was like losing a childhood friend.

I always dreamed that I'd meet him but I guess in another life.

Thank you for this. I needed to see it. ;)

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jun 28th, 2009 at 2:48am
any updates?

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Petrus on Jun 28th, 2009 at 9:20am

wrote on Jun 27th, 2009 at 10:21am:
http://trashselector.com/evan-chandler-i-lied-for-my-father-im-sorry-michael/


That was always my feeling, moons.  I never really believed Michael was guilty, to be honest.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by hawkeye on Jun 28th, 2009 at 4:09pm
I picked up along the same as Thomas has. MJ is in a stupor. An accidental overdose of his own hands. (The Dr did not know MJ had already taken an overdose of barbiturates before injecting him with his nightly dose of Demerol.) Healing and Rejuvenation center. Hes going to be just fine. He was met instantly by those who love him. There's plenty of love out there for MJ. Far more than its opposite. No love. As for innocence or guilt...it is his lesson, and only MJ will be judging his actions. I highly doubt he will be in some hell, and more likly he will be in NeverLand before long.  

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:47pm
If anyone has any more to share it would be greatly appreciated. IF someone could do an update soon...

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by hawkeye on Jun 29th, 2009 at 4:48pm
Supermodel, What do you feel his expearence is?

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jun 29th, 2009 at 6:57pm
If I were to go with my gut feeling?

Good question...

My initial feelings were when I first heard of his passing...

That he was mentally and physically tired. He wasn't trying to commit suicide because his religious background wouldn't allow for such.

I think that he'd be shocked to learn that he did pass away when he "comes to" and may feel some grief knowing that the world is grieving for him...especially he didn't want to leave his children behind.

I think it was actually a "mistake". I don't think he was ready to go but wasn't able to make a conscious choice to stay or leave this earth because he wasn't in his right mind when he passed.  

I'm not sure where all that came from but why did you ask me that question? I'm really curious.... :)

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by hawkeye on Jun 29th, 2009 at 7:17pm
Because you know as well as the rest of us what happened. Your so correct. He will grieve when he understands what has happened. For the loss of the possible experiences with his children. They will be just fine even with him gone. He will move on, learn what he needed to from this lifetime. I think it was a mistake also. Also with his JW upbringing wouldn't have allowed him to go the suicide route. Now we must soon let him go. Be happy for him and just give him our love and understanding, so that he feels no need to hang around. By looking at "what you know" has shown you that you "do know". Never doubt yourself Supermodel. You see...I know that you are far more aware than what you had thought yourself.  

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jun 29th, 2009 at 7:26pm
WOW...

Of course it isn't difficult to know that I'm new to all of this.

I guess I'm still learning but feel ready to start doing some exploring of my own. I guess I do need to trust myself more.

Thank you so much for your words. I feel more confident now. I guess it's hard to discern what my personal biases are and what my gut is trying to tell me...if that makes sense.
:)

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by hawkeye on Jun 30th, 2009 at 2:37pm
If you haven't already...give Bruces and perhaps Bob Monroe's books a read. They provide interesting view points and have been a real eye opener for many people. Sometimes just realising that many of those thoughts and feelings a person has, really are something more than just electric pluses. Anyways, the books can be purchased online through this site for Bruces, and through the Monroe Institutes on line store for Bob's. I believe that you wont be disappointed. Its hard to explain how reaffirming reading about other peoples experiences can be. It personally reopened my eyes to who and what I really am. That being, so much more than my phyical body.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jul 1st, 2009 at 12:31am
Thanks a lot. I've had my eye on his books for some time now.  ;)

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by moonsandjunes on Jul 3rd, 2009 at 5:22pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvdM5RDnJic

Larry King interview:  Jermaine Jackson. Live from Neverland Ranch.

At 8:20 in the video, look down the hallway. At the end of the hallway you will see a shadow walk from left to right, obviously human. It is a human figure walking from left to right, clear as can be. You can see through it.

Obviously, this is of interest to lots of folks.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by betson on Jul 3rd, 2009 at 9:34pm
Wow, m+j !

At first I thought you meant those camermen that ducked back and forth,
Then --- !!

I don't think Michael will be ready to cross over for some time, do you?  He has so much he must wonder about!

Bets

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by supermodel on Jul 3rd, 2009 at 11:46pm
That shadow or whatever that was made the hairs on my neck stand up! Anywho...I agree I don't think he would be ready to pass any time soon either.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Petrus on Jul 8th, 2009 at 7:01pm

supermodel wrote on Jun 29th, 2009 at 6:57pm:
That he was mentally and physically tired.


It's essentially a similar scenario to what happened with Heath Ledger.

As times change, and energetic currents shift, you tend to get a situation where people who were instrumental within a former energetic landscape, begin to find the current one inhospitable to them, for various reasons.  

Some of those reasons are developmental; an inability to change with the times.  Jackson was 50, and contrary to what the media was initially saying, that is not young.  In his previous public appearance, he had been saying that his next tour would be his last.

It is also worth noting that all of his really major success took place in the 80s; there was some more music outside of that decade, but none of the rest of it was ever as successful as Thriller and Bad were.

It makes me wonder when his two other major contemporaries, Madonna and Prince will go.  Death usually comes in threes, and in a way it would have been beautifully appropriate if they had gone together.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by moonsandjunes on Jul 8th, 2009 at 7:53pm
Now you're gonna have Jon Stewart after you...       kidding

guess you had to be there

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/02/jon-stewart-blasts-glenn_n_224766.html

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by hawkeye on Jul 9th, 2009 at 1:27pm
As you look farther through the tape you will see the production staff coming into view once that enter into anouther room. I don't think that the ghost of MJ. It a shadow of an assistant, that's all. MJ's not trapped in the house.

Title: Re: M. Jackson RIP
Post by Violinist on Oct 26th, 2009 at 11:32pm
Big MJ fan here - I just posted an  MJ dream I had although I've had multiple MJ dreams since before and after his death. I am really wanting someone experienced to visit Michael for me and check up. Anyone?

I'll be posting more dreams / experiences soon...
Plz post any Michael checkups for me!

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