If not it must get pretty boring,what are your thoughts on this?george

Sleep is a strictly physical activity/neccessity, allowing the body to reenergize and our spirits to explore nonphysical realities and incorperate the expeirences in our physical lives.  Spirits, being nonphysical, have no physical body to recharge, and therefore no need for sleep.  

You are thinking in physical terms, and this should be avoided when dealing with the nonphysical.

While I find my sleep activities to be exciting and fascinating, I would love the extra time in the physical to continue my activites without the need to sleep.  However, it is nice to have a break every now and then.  ;)

George,

From my experience there are several situations in which nonphyical humans are known to sleep.  A recently deceased person who is in Focus 27 will sometimes sleep out of the habit of sleeping to rest.  These folks usually evolve to a state in which sleeping is no longer necessary.

Some in the Health Center in F27 who are recovering from physical life induced problems are also known to sleep.  Some in this Center are in a state very similar to a coma which is a form of sleep I suppose.

In any of the Belief System Territories that have as part of belief their structures a physical-world-type existence sleep is often as common as here in physical reality.  The Hollow Heavens are a case in point. And of course there are lots of cases of those stuck in Focus 23 who are sleeping.  Actually, some are stuck be virtue of their  belief that after death they will rest in eternal sleep.  Many of these are found sleeping.

Bruce

Thanks for your reply bruce,I thought i read this somewhere.Must be somewhere on your site.George

I agree with Bruce.  I didn't even have the belief system territories in mind when I first replied, I was thinking focus 27 and "above."

From what I have read and that includes Bruce's and Robert Monroe's books as well that Non Physical beings at times need to recharge or simply put: Sleep.

They/We are after all energy beings.

From reading Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls there is a need for beings in the Spirit World to heal and recharge their energy.
To strip off the 'hurt' from being physical.

Is it not healthy for our Souls to 'Get Out' of our bodies while we are physically sleeping?
I can understand the 'need' to sleep once we get back to the spirit world for some of us.

What do the spirits who are not sleeping do ?

Do all do same things or it varies from soul to soul ?

highest_realm wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 10:01am:

What do the spirits who are not sleeping do ? Do all do same things or it varies from soul to soul ?

What do YOU do when you are not sleeping in this 3D life?
Do you work? Do you play? Do you learn? Do you goof off?

That is how I look at it.

I don't know Dood..  I feel that the source of our energy for the physical body is our energy body.  It is the physical mechanism which needs to temporarily "shut down", not the energy body.  I believe our consciousness never needs to "sleep" but it is always active(although we may not be aware of it on the physical mind level), and neither does our energy body... I feel our energy body is in a constant state of give and take, energy wise, for it has such a strong connection to our oversouls, which are the source of our energy(although most likely not the highest source).  

I agree that newly deceased spirits may need to recharge and rest, but this is simply because of a drastic transition of physical focus to nonphysical focus or lasting unconstructive beliefs brought from the physical... at these times the soul is not in its natural state of being.

highest_realm wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 10:01am:

What do the spirits who are not sleeping do ? Do all do same things or it varies from soul to soul ?

Hi. when I was in between lives I danced as a spirit.

is this not a good enough occupation?  :)

there's lots of music going on over there. wait and see.

I agree with Bruce, sleeping and eating is like a habit we get into.
there is a way to replenish one's self without actually sleeping as I've heard some highly evolved persons can get by on 4 hours sleep a night due to they just close their eyes and tune into some energy supply.

love, alysia

Highest Realm,


highest_realm wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 10:01am:

What do the spirits who are not sleeping do ? Do all do same things or it varies from soul to soul ?

That is an excellant question.  Yeah, if I lived in a place where all the physical body needs could be satisfied without "cost" how would that affect what I do in my life?

If I could create my favorite meal by mirely thinking about it, imagining it or visualzing it.  And, that meal was in every way satisfying and sustaining.  No job necessary to earn money to pay for the food or to have it prepared.  Perfectly healthy meal, how would that affect what I do in my life?

Housing, free for the thought to create any structure to live in. No rent or mortgage.  How would that affect what I do in my life?

Cars, airplanes, ships, teleporters, ultra speed InfraUniverse broadband consciousness, etc. for free travel to anywhere you want to go.  How would that affect what I do in my life?

If you didn't have to spend time working for a living, how would it affect how you spend your time living?

You might watch Bill Murrary in the movie Ground Hog Day for clues to the answers.

Bruce

PS:  I am fond of telling people that I am living this physical lifetime because I wanted a vacation from eternity.

Bruce quote: I am fond of telling people that I am living this physical lifetime because I wanted a vacation from eternity
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hmmm...I always thought that eternal rest seemed boring and might need a vacation from 7th heaven

I can see Bruce saying this with a smile on his face :)

Hello my dear friend  George,

Heck George as usual you think up questions no one else has thought about. I agree with Bruce that souls can at times sleep. Sleep is a joy in this life and why should it not continue into the afterlife?

On the 7 th day the Bible says God rested so why cant we?. If God is able to do anything he likes then indeed he is also able to sleep or rest

Regards

Alan  

Love that reply Bruce. A vacation from eternity. How true. And can you think of a better place than earth to have it at. Focus 27 is not necessarily the "be all and end all". No doubt that having everything you desire to be available to you is an interesting game but repeated games can get boring. That is one of the reason we come back to spend time here on this little blue marble. Both places are great, but I wouldn't want to spend eternity at one or the other.
Joe  

kind of with Joe here on this line of thought, and with Bruce.

I seem to remember a life of leisure I had once on Earth. It was nice, enjoyable, had everything I wanted, gardens to wander in, etc. but at the end of it, I hadn't gained an inch in growth, I had nothing to add to the disc, hadn't had enough challenge.

so that's what I think we do sometimes is design some challenges, of course with help from our friends.

heres a link to a fellow says we do sleep, on the other side, and even have dreams. the link is about a book called War Letters from a Dead Man.

I feel a close affiliation with this "dead man." and so his letters have become very credible because of this resonation factor. I think you will enjoy reading him George. and the entire book is there for downloading if you have a printer handy. I think, maybe my guide, whose name is also David once, and who lived and died in the same time frame as this other David, and spoke with his same style of writing, that my guide was friends with this fellow. that could be it.

http://www.earthlypursuits.com/WLLDM/WLLDMan.htm

If souls are an energy vibration of different densities, then this energy must drain off and the soul equivalent of sleep becomes a necessity, to charge their respectful batteries so to speak. Entropy then rules even in the afterlife or does it?

Alan

Alan,


Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 4^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

If souls are an energy vibration of different densities, then this energy must drain off and the soul equivalent of sleep becomes a necessity, to charge their respectful batteries so to speak. Entropy then rules even in the afterlife or does it?

If we carry the analogy of energy draining out of batteries that needs to be recharged a little further how about we examine the concept of the "sole battery charger."

I can charge up the batteries in my laptop computer while the computer is turned off, or to follow the analogy, while the laptop computer is sleeping. If I unplug the charger before I wake the computer up the batteries will drain as you say and need to be recharged after the computer is turned off later.

But, if I do not disconnect the charger after waking up the computer to computer batteries will never run down and I will never need to put the computer to sleep to charge them.

So we might say if it is possible for the soul to find a way to remain plugged into the power source while it is awake, it would never need to sleep to recharge. I wonder how soul would do that?


Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 4^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

Entropy then rules even in the afterlife or does it?

Entropy can be said to "rule" within a system in which all forces operate to randomize any "organized" form of energy within that system. However, if what we call the soul is truly eternal there must be a force that does not have the effect of randomizing the soul's energy within that system. If I had to guess I would say whatever that force is "rules" the system we call our afterlife.

Bruce

Bruce

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So we might say if it is possible for the soul to find a way to remain plugged into the power source while it is awake, it would never need to sleep to recharge. I wonder how soul would do that?

That is why I believe the soul is not made of the same type of energy  that drives and sustains the universe. It must be something different to be eternal like God

"Maybe it has no need to ever plug into anything as its life force can simply never drain off"

It is that strange non-heat energy of purest composite light , something like a glow worm (I know this is a poor analogy)

The bible says God is a "spirit" and maybe this phrase come closer to the "entropy resistant soul energy" that prevents the soul from ever draining its life force and like God from which it came is immortal and eternal. Only evolving and changing form

That is my present take on this complex subject, be it what it may

Regards

Alan

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That is an excellant question.  Yeah, if I lived in a place where all the physical body needs could be satisfied without "cost" how would that affect what I do in my life? If I could create my favorite meal by mirely thinking about it, imagining it or visualzing it.  And, that meal was in every way satisfying and sustaining.  No job necessary to earn money to pay for the food or to have it prepared.  Perfectly healthy meal, how would that affect what I do in my life? Housing, free for the thought to create any structure to live in. No rent or mortgage.  How would that affect what I do in my life? Cars, airplanes, ships, teleporters, ultra speed InfraUniverse broadband consciousness, etc. for free travel to anywhere you want to go.  How would that affect what I do in my life? If you didn't have to spend time working for a living, how would it affect how you spend your time living? You might watch Bill Murrary in the movie Ground Hog Day for clues to the answers. Bruce PS:  I am fond of telling people that I am living this physical lifetime because I wanted a vacation from eternity.

oh my.  You are describing what I hope for, a favorite dream of mine.
Suppose a person finds out they watch Groundhog's day.  How do they turn off the movie?  I do understand it helps not to watch so much television because of what it does to different areas of the brain  :D and causes "playacting" and many questions are asked about this.  "Are you just playacting or are your intentions real?"  What else is to be done?  What reasons would this happen?  

Thank you for your kindness.   You have a wonderful site here  :)

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"Maybe it has no need to ever plug into anything as its life force can simply never drain off"

Hi Alan,

But what if the energy is prodded  to keep moving?  :-?