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Message started by recoverer on Jun 25th, 2008 at 4:04pm

Title: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 25th, 2008 at 4:04pm
Is reality like television?

Let's say that our awareness = the viewer, the dancing electrons on our TV screen = the energy we use to create, and our minds = the program director.  Sometimes the program can come from an outer source, such as a higher level being. Sometimes it can come from us, depending upon how good we are at gaining control of the remote control. Often it is an interactive collaborative proces between ourselves, each other and higher level beings.

There is no one program we have to watch.  At a most basic level we are always the same viewer regardless of what we watch. For a while we might end up watching some lousy shows, until we figure out which channels have the good shows. For example, I hear the love channel is really good, except when it shows reruns of the love boat. :)

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by betson on Jun 25th, 2008 at 4:18pm
Oh Wow!

So this is what channelling spirituality really means!  What you say makes so much
sense !

For example, check out Piero's comments on his thread.  He wasn't tuned in to this spirituality subject too much but the more he thinks about it, the clearer the channel becomes.  :)  

It's more than channelling spirituality, I realize. You are describing consciousness and mind.  Congratulations !

Bets

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by LaffingRain on Jun 25th, 2008 at 5:48pm
this is a good description. going a little further with it, we do select the channels. this is called focus.
each of us watches our favorite channel, to focus in on a secular interest, such as love boat, or
gilligans island or national geographic.

here, if my computer screen was analogous to a TV screen, we could say I am tuned into, focusing on what happens after death. each person who contributes adds part of the show.

while I'm focused on my channel station, I have no idea what that politics is being discussed just a knob switch over.

there are different ways of channelling. I'm one of the rare people who saw my boyfriend go to sleep while a disembodied voice used his vocal cords to tell me he was mortally wounded in the 16th century by a sword fight.

that's one way. nowadays channellers are springing up, and the physical vocal chords can be bypassed for the visiting entity, as well, we no longer have to be concerned about low entity beings, when we realize how we protect ourselves from that sort of thing.
many are reaching altered states these days, receiving various rotes, made to fit the think tank of the receiver, said receiver, our minds, are not unlike a radio station receiver set.

I can receive messages, in words, but they are strickly personal messages of helpfulness to me only.
It is not unreasonable to assume there are radio receivers out there who are able to go deeper than myself and receive ongoing transmissions of a higher vibrational field than the average person going here. I think it's about discernment of spirits.

mystics and psychics have reported visions of TV sets, used for past life viewing during their self assessment times.

love, alysia

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Jun 26th, 2008 at 2:02am
Funny, Recoverer, this idea is presented by Seth in his book The Unknown Reality Vol. 2.  It is a very practical way of looking at our reality.

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by blink on Jun 26th, 2008 at 7:41am
We are in the television. We are also watching the television. We can affect the quality of the reception with our own "non-interference" -- in the form of love and acceptance of all things.


Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 26th, 2008 at 1:01pm
Dude:

;D I never read that book. For numerous reasons I believe that Jane Roberts and her husband made up the Seth entity.  Therefore, it is possible they came up with "some" good info.  I won't list all of the reasons for which I believe they made up Seth, but one reason is because one time I found an article on the internet and a man who worked for Jane Robert's publisher said that people who worked for her publisher knew that Jane and her husband made up Seth.  He said that her husband used to speak to guests before Jane supposedly channeled so he collect personal information that he could pass on to Jane.  I remember watching a Jane Roberts Seth video, and at one point she stopped speaking with the Seth voice for a moment and spoke in her regular voice so she could tell somebody: "We'll take a break in a moment." Seems like quite a slip up.

Alysia:

I hope you're right about us not having to worry about unfriendly beings too much. My hope is that if a person tries to make contact with his or her higher self and/or guides with good intentions, these friendly beings will be the first to respond. That seems to be the experience of the people who visit this forum. Because I'm not 100% certain of how things work, sometimes I worry too much.


Blink:

I  like what you say, however I'll add, in a way we are the television.


Betson:

I didn't mean channeling in that way, perhaps you know what I meant.




I Am Dude wrote on Jun 26th, 2008 at 2:02am:
Funny, Recoverer, this idea is presented by Seth in his book The Unknown Reality Vol. 2.  It is a very practical way of looking at our reality.


Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 26th, 2008 at 4:13pm
Hi,

I have often wondered if a huge being larger by scale than we are to ants and sat patiently watching us building a  large dam or skyscraper what would they perceive us doing.  The workers on the project would appear to them much like termites building a termite heap do to us. They would see these tiny little entities sort of seemingly wandering around, without purpose or direction. Some just stopping and for a while doing nothing. others buzy.

Much to their amazement they would see the building or dam going up and conclude this must be the work of a hive mind and they go looking for the queen human.

Alan

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 26th, 2008 at 4:16pm
Alan:

This being would probably realize that unlike ants we have a free will because many of us do nothing but hang out at the beach, a pub, sitting at home watching TV, etc.



Alan McDougall wrote on Jun 26th, 2008 at 4:13pm:
Hi,

I have often wondered if a huge being larger by scale than we are to ants and sat patiently watching us building a  large dam or skyscraper what would they perceive us doing.  The workers on the project would appear to them much like termites building a termite heap do to us. They would see these tiny little entities sort of seemingly wandering around, without purpose or direction. Some just stopping and for a while doing nothing. others buzy.

Much to their amazement they would see the building or dam going up and conclude this must be the work of a hive mind and they go looking for the queen human.

Alan


Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Jun 26th, 2008 at 9:45pm
Recoverer

The belief in the entity Seth is much less important than the information which he presents for us.  Not all minds are completely open to all things, this is understandable.  Some things just dont resonate with everyone, and therefore I will not go into a debate on the authenticity of Seth as an entity.  

However, I will most deffinately stress the importance of the spreading of this information accumulated through these channelings, for they are of great importance to all members of the human race.  Since the introduction of the ideas presented by Seth, my mind and (therefore) all aspects of my life have expanded in an extremely positive manner.  Seth has introduced me to methods of discovering my true self and allowed me to remember my true capabilities, which I have learned are nearly infinite.  If every human accepted these ideas and put them into use in their every day lives, the world would be a meraculous place.  I know this for a fact because my world has become meraculous with the help of Seth's material, and if this information can change my life for the better, it can change others as well.  


PEACE!!!

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:11am
Recoverer,


Quote:
Alan:

This being would probably realize that unlike ants we have a free will because many of us do nothing but hang out at the beach, a pub, sitting at home watching TV, etc


Point taken , but if we observe ants some of them seem to stop and continue on in a random way and then go, what appears to us as a walk-about.

From the huge perpective of the hypothetical being, would we not appear to be doing the same. He might even stamp on a few of us to see the reaction. What reaction from his perpective would he see?

Regards

Alan

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by tgecks on Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:25am
I really like the television analogy and I think it is spot on.

I actually describe changing focus levels (in Monroe speak) like changing the channels on the television, and opening my senses to an alternate chennel.... the other channels are still broadcasting, but I am tuned in to a different channel, focused on it to the exclusion of the others.

While television programming is not at all reality, I do agree that reality is rather like television.

Thomas

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by Lucy on Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:37am

Quote:
I won't list all of the reasons for which I believe they made up Seth, but one reason is because one time I found an article on the internet and a man who worked for Jane Robert's publisher said that people who worked for her publisher knew that Jane and her husband made up Seth.  He said that her husband used to speak to guests before Jane supposedly channeled so he collect personal information that he could pass on to Jane.  I remember watching a Jane Roberts Seth video, and at one point she stopped speaking with the Seth voice for a moment and spoke in her regular voice so she could tell somebody: "We'll take a break in a moment." Seems like quite a slip up.


Source?

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:25pm
Lucy:

I found the source that speaks about the publisher by chance one time, and had a hard time relocating it. Nevertheless, when I get a chance I'll try to find it again.  Regarding the video goof, I saw it on youtube.  I'm really busy at work these days and probably won't be able to find the publisher article today.

Whatever the case, in my case, it is important to remember that I've received a lot of spirit help from Christ.  Jane Roberts Seth say things about Christ that are false and irreverant.  For example, claiming that he wasn't crucified. Spiritual experiences and messages have told me differently.  Also, Jane Roberts Seth speak of just three of Jesus's most famous verses, and reinterprets them so they lose spiritual meaning. For example, Jane Roberts Seth said that Jesus was just making a joke when he said to love your neighbor as yourself. I believe it is obvious that Jesus wasn't making joke when he said to love your neighbor as yourself.  If it isn't obvious, one could read portions of the gospels where he says this and see that he wasn't making a joke. A person would ask what the most important commandments were and he would include, "love your neighbor as yourself." If a person believes that the verses within the gospels can't be used in order to determine what Jesus actually said, it is important to realize that Jane Roberts Seth referred to these verses when making her/their false claims, and that she/he used various verses in order to try to deny that Jesus was crucified.

Personally, I don't care how many positive things Jane Roberts Seth has to say.  My feelings for Christ are far more important to me than anything I might gain by reading Seth. To me having love, reverence, respect and grattitude towards a light being such as Christ, is far more important than gaining a few pointers from Seth.

It is kind of ironic that Jane Roberts Seth chose to discredit Jesus' love your neighbor as yourself verse, because if anybody noticed, Jane Roberts Seth have very little to say about love. Especially when it comes to having love and reverence for that which is divine.

Some people might conclude I'm some sort of fundamentalist. My retort is, isn't it possible to have feelings of love, reverence, grattitude and humility towards that which is divine, without being a fundamentalist?


Lucy wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:37am:

Quote:
I won't list all of the reasons for which I believe they made up Seth, but one reason is because one time I found an article on the internet and a man who worked for Jane Robert's publisher said that people who worked for her publisher knew that Jane and her husband made up Seth.  He said that her husband used to speak to guests before Jane supposedly channeled so he collect personal information that he could pass on to Jane.  I remember watching a Jane Roberts Seth video, and at one point she stopped speaking with the Seth voice for a moment and spoke in her regular voice so she could tell somebody: "We'll take a break in a moment." Seems like quite a slip up.


Source?


Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by juditha on Jun 27th, 2008 at 1:57pm
Hi recoverer I completely agree with what you have written,you are so right in what you have said.

Love and God bless     love juditha

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:01pm
Thank you Juditha.


wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 1:57pm:
Hi recoverer I completely agree with what you have written,you are so right in what you have said.

Love and God bless     love juditha


Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by blink on Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:06pm
http://www.nirvikalpa.com/content.php?page=seth

Here's an interesting page with lots of links to Seth material and discussions. I'm sure there are many people here who would enjoy an impartial "look-see" into this subject.

All this "Seth" talk has certainly inspired my own enthusiasm to revisit the Roberts material. It's been a long time. Fascinating subject, actually.

thanks, blink :)

http://www.nirvikalpa.com/content.php?page=seth3
Oh, this page is great!!!
Quotes here from each book.
I love the internet, what a miracle it is.
Right at a person's fingertips, just right there at a moment's notice.....
Any time it's needed, whatever you need, right there at your fingertips.

No need to be on the same page.

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by betson on Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:23pm
Hi Recoverer,

Re: channeling--I was trying to pun.  :)
I should have put a smiley face next to it.  :D

Speaking of humor, I think it's funny that recoverer's thread has led to Seth. Sorta.  ::)

Love, Bets




Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by blink on Jun 27th, 2008 at 2:28pm
It is kinda funny....hey, Recoverer, will you please visit Jane Roberts and get the answers to all of those questions you have? You know, astrally speaking....sounds like she and a whole lot of others have some explaining to do....

http://www.nirvikalpa.com/search.php4
This is a search engine, confined to Seth materials on the above site I mentioned. When I put the word "love" into it, I got 30 rows of quotes on love from Seth books. Maybe not all, but the notable ones, according to this index. Help yourself!

:)

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by recoverer on Jun 27th, 2008 at 3:53pm
Blink:

I believe the below link (Rhymes with Blink) is what you're really trying to give me.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22rasberries%22+%22photo%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

Title: Re: Is reality like television?
Post by blink on Jun 27th, 2008 at 4:23pm
Actually, just a while ago, I was trying to start a new link in the off-topic area with a photo I liked. I guess I'm too dumb to do it! However, I did open an account at the Photobucket place, so I can have some fun with the occasional photograph just like the other clever people here. Whenever I figure it out.

It was a "best of" photo today, of a man on a desert road, carrying a huge load of multicolored balloons. He is leaning against the wind. His clothes are white, the sand is white, everything is barren.

Except those balloons. He's heading somewhere, against the wind, trying to make someone's dream come true. Mr. Balloon-man.

hee hee, raspberries, indeed..... :)



recoverer wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 3:53pm:
Blink:

I believe the below link (Rhymes with Blink) is what you're really trying to give me.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22rasberries%22+%22photo%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title


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