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Message started by elliexuk on Apr 19th, 2008 at 1:18pm

Title: Air Disaster Victims
Post by elliexuk on Apr 19th, 2008 at 1:18pm
Hi i wondered if any of you with a gift has ever dealt with a plane crash victim, i was reading up on Brazillian Band Mamonas Assissnas and their plane crash in March 1996 their bodies were mutilated pretty badly so what would happen to these souls once impact claimed their lives and the trauma their souls would encounter seeing their bodies so messed up, if anyone has any views  would love to read them thanks Ellie xx

Title: Re: Air Disaster Victims
Post by betson on Apr 19th, 2008 at 7:55pm
Greetings Ellie,

Have you heard the phrase "Don't look back"?  I think it applies real well to plane crash victims. I don't recall the specifics of that disaster, but most events are preplanned in higher realms, and plans are organized for those involved. Spiritual Helpers would be there to gather up the souls and lead them upward and away from the site.
Souls who believe they are wounded because their bodies were are taken to healing levels in the heavens. When they believe they are healed, they move on to a more appropriate realm of the Afterlife.

If a soul did examine its body and become traumatized, it would probably be for the purpose of then having a dramatic realization of 'hey, that's not me!'  
Once we get to the other side of life (the Afterlife) we don't identify very much with the physical any more.

Love, Bets

Title: Re: Air Disaster Victims
Post by elliexuk on Apr 19th, 2008 at 9:00pm
Thanks Bets

I feel  so sorry for these guys and how they died
Elliex

Title: Re: Air Disaster Victims
Post by blink on Apr 20th, 2008 at 11:40am
From the near death reports I've read, for many people, when they leave their bodies they feel very peaceful, so no matter how horrific their death might be, they don't seem to have much of an emotional reaction to seeing their badly injured body. It just seems to be a huge surprise to be out of body, and then it seems like curiosity is often very strong. But, I wouldn't know, personally.

b

Title: Re: Air Disaster Victims
Post by gordon phinn on Apr 28th, 2008 at 11:19am
Hi elliexuk:

crash victims of all kinds can be difficult to retrieve, but they don't have to be.  I've done a lot of this work in the past few years and can tell you there is a large variety of situations which arise at crash and distaster sites.  some are very identified with the bodily condition and some are hovering above the body and don't know it's 'theirs';  some are very worried about those who are 'left behind' and are taken by their thoughts to homes and families miles from crash scene, so really aren't there at all, and some are actively praying for help/release when they actually are released.  There are many kinds of illusions helpers have to deal with, and the training one gets when one starts covers all of this.  My own trainee days are covered in "Eternal Life And How To Enjoy It", and my post-graduation activity is covered in "More Adventures In Eternity".
Although some souls get stuck at accident sites for months/years and move into the role of one "who haunts a site", most are taken in the first few minutes, either by astral plane helpers or physicaly alive 'projectors' like myself.

hope this helps, gordon phinn


elliexuk wrote on Apr 19th, 2008 at 1:18pm:
Hi i wondered if any of you with a gift has ever dealt with a plane crash victim, i was reading up on Brazillian Band Mamonas Assissnas and their plane crash in March 1996 their bodies were mutilated pretty badly so what would happen to these souls once impact claimed their lives and the trauma their souls would encounter seeing their bodies so messed up, if anyone has any views  would love to read them thanks Ellie xx


Title: Re: Air Disaster Victims
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 28th, 2008 at 4:03pm
Hi, elliexuk,

During my nde episode I looked at my body in a calm/detached way and could no longer recognize it as the vehicle of my soul.

Terrible wounds on a dying body have no emotional effect on the soul/mind.

alan

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