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Message started by blink on Apr 1st, 2008 at 9:00pm

Title: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 1st, 2008 at 9:00pm
Alan, a previous post of yours stuck in my mind. You mentioned finding words that stand out, as an exercise, which you might spend an entire day "reclining" in, so to speak. The words that become BOLD in my mind in the following song are  (please read lyrics provided, and then I will let you know which ones speak to me):

When the crying is over I’ll be missing you still
When mountains and valleys become rolling hills
When I’m finally standing on that desolate plain
I have but one dream that we’ll be together again

When the crying is over and my tears have run dry
I’ll be an old man and ready to die
I’ll see you in heaven, or you’ll know I’m in hell
Until we meet again here’s where I’ll dwell
When all this pain and heartache comes to an end
There’ll be no more tears, we’ll be together again

And when I’m finally standing on that desolate plain
I have but one dream, we’ll be together again

When the crying is over there’ll be no more pain
And when this heartache comes to an end
I’ll take you in my arms, we’ll be together again

Ian McLagan     the Bump Band

http://www.maniacrecords.net/Soundpages/ncrying.htm

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Lyrics which are Bold when I look at them: WE'LL BE TOGETHER AGAIN and HERE'S WHERE I DWELL

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Perhaps there are others who would like to join in this, just for an occasion to try an experiment. Take any piece of literature nearby which has an emotional pull on you from it. Take a reasonable amount of text to look at. Then notice what stands out for you. What appears BOLD. There will be something, or a series.

Please share, anyone who might enjoy this.

I wonder, in retrievals, or any other kind of exploration, is this how we find each other? Do the thoughts that we think in the afterlife draw to us those who hear our voices in a particular way? Is this how we are drawn into particular areas which, in afterlife reality, belong to others? Is there a Utopian place for each of us, which consists of all that is "Bold" in our own imaginations, that which we believe and to which we are attracted? Or is is a more mutual activity? Can it be so automatic? Is "God" a robot, who would allow everything in Creation to simply "express" -- or is God somehow different? Must all the ideas of what is "real" be collected and condensed into some kind of hothouse rainforest? Or is it a much much much more individual process, our merge with Source as the culmination of life's experience?



Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 2nd, 2008 at 2:52am
Very nice Bets very nice indeed,

I did not start the promised exercise as I felt my post was off the thread topic after carefully reading Docs nice thoughts on the beauty of silence.

Your thread has,however, promted me to relook at what I proposed and I will make a day to do that. I will add your into my compilation.

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by recoverer on Apr 2nd, 2008 at 12:28pm
Very nice Bets? :-? Is Blink channeling Bets these days? ;)



Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 2nd, 2008 at 2:52am:
Very nice Bets very nice indeed,

I did not start the promised exercise as I felt my post was off the thread topic after carefully reading Docs nice thoughts on the beauty of silence.

Your thread has,however, promted me to relook at what I proposed and I will make a day to do that. I will add your into my compilation.

alan


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 2nd, 2008 at 3:09pm
Isn't that funny? I didn't even notice that he said "Bets" because it didn't occur to me to notice.

Perhaps we see what we want to see more often than we don't.

However, it is uncharacteristic of me to string together a list of questions, at least in this way, and we all know that Bets asks lots of great questions -- she is very curious. Bets/Blink, easy to do. Or Blink/Bets, either way.

Ultimately, all One. I have wondered, after all, who am I, or who have I Ever been? Does it really matter? It is all a gift, and all given.

:)

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 9:59am
HI , Blink,

I am so sorry for not looking properly and just assuming it was Bets, You were away for a while so my hasty mind just saw the "B" and assumed it was from Bets. Anyway the comments made must be applicable to your thread as they were based on the lovely poetry

love

alan


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by dave_a_mbs on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 2:33pm
This thread is a good paradigm for life in general.

A little nostalgic poetry, a stirring of the soul, and next thing we kinow, all bets are off.

;-)
d

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 3:20pm
Blink dear,

A night or two before I read the beautiful poem you posted, I had a vision in the between sleep and wake state. It was of a beautiful angel other worldly woman surrounded by a very blue aura or energy, it was very beautiful and I saw her first just looking at me with brilliant eyes, then the picture changed to her looking into a breeze and her long black hair flowing in the wind.

Have you any idea what this could mean? I related this to Bets just prior to your thread on this topic by pm

Love

alan      

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by recoverer on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 7:17pm
Alan:

I saw an angelic lady look at me last night (while my eyes were closed). Perhaps she was just saying hello. Perhaps somebody is trying to tell you that regardless of whether or not reincarnation is true, your existence started before this physical lifetime.

I don't mind if people call me R, just so they don't call me A. I don't want to be mistaken for "Alan."   ;)





Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 3:20pm:
Blink dear,

A night or two before I read the beautiful poem you posted, I had a vision in the between sleep and wake state. It was of a beautiful angel other worldly woman surrounded by a very blue aura or energy, it was very beautiful and I saw her first just looking at me with brilliant eyes, then the picture changed to her looking into a breeze and her long black hair flowing in the wind.

Have you any idea what this could mean? I related this to Bets just prior to your thread on this topic by pm

Love

alan      


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 4th, 2008 at 11:35am
How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
Yes, 'n' how many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, 'n' how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Bob Dylan
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Alan, what was her position/which direction was she facing after she looked at you? What, more specifically, was the color of blue in the aura/it appeared beautiful to you?

love, b




Alan McDougall wrote on Apr 3rd, 2008 at 3:20pm:
Blink dear,

A night or two before I read the beautiful poem you posted, I had a vision in the between sleep and wake state. It was of a beautiful angel other worldly woman surrounded by a very blue aura or energy, it was very beautiful and I saw her first just looking at me with brilliant eyes, then the picture changed to her looking into a breeze and her long black hair flowing in the wind.

Have you any idea what this could mean? I related this to Bets just prior to your thread on this topic by pm

Love

alan      


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 4th, 2008 at 9:42pm
Blink,

She was at first facing my body in a westerly direction and she then turned and faced into the wind (with her long black hair flowing in the wind) in a northerly direction. The time seemed to be morning in her reality. So she was also facing into the north wind.

She was translucent of immortal beauty and encompassed in some extremely beautiful blue indigo energy or aura.

The whole brief experience was very spiritual uplifting and wonderfully beautiful. The meaning however eludes me

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 5th, 2008 at 3:51am
That's puzzling, Alan. But this image led me to this quote:

We thank you mother, the Earth - Delaware.

We are thankful to the East because everyone feels good in the morning when they awake, and sees the bright light coming from the East; and when the Sun goes down in the West we feel good and glad we are well; then we are thankful to the West. And we are thankful to the North, because when the cold winds come we are glad to have lived to see the leaves fall again; and to the South, for when the south wind blows and everything is coming up in the spring, we are glad to live to see the grass growing and everything green again. We thank the Thunders, for they are the manitous that bring the rain, which the Creator has given them power to rule over. And we thank our mother, the Earth, whom we claim as mother because the Earth carries us and everything we need.

Charley Elkhair, quoted in M. R. Harrington, Religion and Ceremonies of the Lenape, Indian Notes and Monographs, Museum of the American Indian, Heye Foundation, vol 19 (1921).

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The indigo aura is a spiritual color which would be interpreted as positive. Light from the east. A new day begins.

lovely thought, blink

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 5th, 2008 at 9:29am
Perhaps worth mentioning, today is, I read, the day of the Buddhist Feast of Kuan Yin/Avalokitashavara, and recognizing our capacity for compassion with all Creation.

Tomorrow is North Pole Day, a celebration of Arctic and Antarctic wilderness.

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Ah Power that swirls us together
Grant us Bliss
Grant us the great release
And to all Beings
Vanishing, wounded
In trouble on the earth
We pass on this love
May their numbers increase

                  Gary Snyder


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Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 5th, 2008 at 10:17am

I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence

I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I want you all to come together and dwell in my mind. The white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat. The watchers your personal angelic guides are watching over the forum to bring about a group mind. Those in the narrow black belt will be very significant

This is how I consolidate the words that stand out. (Blink you will see the meaning of the words you put forward are there but just in different format)

Any way this is just a start of what Source is attempting to convey to us through Blinks thread I think!

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by juditha on Apr 6th, 2008 at 4:40pm
Hi blink and alan and recoverer I just felt i wanted to put this song on here for us all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2azX548ppo&NR=1

Love and God bless     love juditha

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 7th, 2008 at 6:35pm
Hi All and so the message continues"


I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I speak to you by my watchers above the moon.

I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I want you all to come together and dwell in my mind. The white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat. The watchers your personal angelic guides are watching over the forum to bring about a group mind. Those in the narrow black belt will be very significant.

Beings from within the universal light view planet earth, the winter of the three second man has come and into the vast void they must migrate and the earth revert to original beauty in a future time on the horison not far. The end is not the end but the beginning of cosmic mankind.

The watchers whatch, the watchers watch and plan our exit.


alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 8th, 2008 at 7:36am
Fascinating, Alan.

Watch, listen, receive...

I notice that it was just announced yesterday on CNN that Bob Dylan has been awarded a special Pulitzer Prize in recognition of the exceptional poetry of his songs.

in love and appreciation, blink

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by juditha on Apr 9th, 2008 at 4:42pm
Hi blink and alan The centre i go to ,so many there feel like they are the outcasts in this world as do me and Deanna sometimes,but there is so much love between us all at the centre.
This is the words of a song Bet Midler sang.




I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there.
I don't know if you will listen to a humble prayer.
They tell me I am just an outcast, I shouldn't speak to you...
Still I see your face, and wonder, were you once an outcast too?

God help the outcasts, hungry from birth.
Show them the mercy they don't find on Earth.
The lost and forgotten, they look to you still.
God help the outcasts, or nobody will.

I ask for nothing, I can get by.
But I know so many less lucky than I.
God help the outcasts, the poor and downtrod.
I thought we all were the children of God.

I don't know if there's a reason;
why some are blessed, some not.
Why the few you seem to favor --
they fear us, flee us, try not to see us.

God help the outcasts, the tattered, the torn.
Seeking an answer to why they were born.
Winds of misfortune have blown them about.
You made the outcasts, don't cast them out.

The poor and unlucky, the weak and the odd.
I thought we all were the children of God.

Love and God bless  love juditha

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by betson on Apr 11th, 2008 at 10:23am
Greetings,

I wonder if these are thoughts were collected or written previously?
I don't want to interrupt you, Alan, if you're currently receiving these revelations, so I'll just ask the others---have you got clues for understanding this beautiful poetic information?

Some terms that might be more familiar in other words-- the 'Watchers' perhaps are known as Helpers in Bruce's books;
the black belt might be from a map I cannot find now but which shows the path of a meteor crossing Earth in the near future (2--4 years); or maybe it's the belt that is drawn that widens the equator, that shows where most pyramids were built?

Looking again to the skies, From the website www.seasky.org  for 2008--      
"April 21, 22 - Lyrids Meteor Shower. The Lyrids are an average shower,
usually producing about 20 meteors per hour at their peak. These meteors
can produce bright dust trails that last for several seconds. The shower will
peak this year on the night of April 21 & 22,
although some meteors are usually visible from
April 16 - 25. This year, a nearly full moon means that only the brightest
meteors will be visible even at dark locations. If you do decide to give it
a try, look for meteors radiating from the constellation of Lyra after midnight.
May 5 - New Moon
May 5 - Eta Aquarids Meteor Shower. The Eta Aquarids are a light shower,
usually producing about 10 meteors per hour at their peak. The shower's
peak will occur on May 5, however viewing should be good on any morning
from May 4 - 7. This year, a new moon means ideal viewing conditions.
The dark skies will reveal even the faintest meteors. The radiant point
for this shower will be in the constellation Aquarius. Best viewing is usually
to the east after midnight."

Juditha, if Alan's 'poem' is revelation, can you focus on it and ask how it is true?
I do regret being so mundane about such a beautiful expression.

Love, Bets

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by juditha on Apr 11th, 2008 at 1:53pm
Hi bets From reading what alan has written,i am very much feeling jesus as bringing this to alan as these words re talking of the second coming and the change anew of this planet ,where there will be only love and we will all be at one with God ,no more seperation from the great one,the tiger will lay in our arms so as a kitten and will purrr with unconditional love,there will be fruit and flowers and radiant beauty in abundance,i see Jesus standing beside alan as i'm writing this and there is much light around them both,this is the beginning of much to be said and learned from outr father God,i feel very much that alan is being used at this time as a channel for these words to be written down and understood,for we are the children of the great spirit our father God whose love is unconditional and will never stop,this is what i have felt and sensed of alans writings.

Love and God bless        love juditha

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:30pm
hey I can't resist some humor:  ;D

Alan said:  The watchers watch, the watchers watch and plan our exit.
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the other day I was talking to the watchers regarding our exit plans. they told me to go to the back of the line, because the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. I asked do you want me to wave my arms in the direction of the exit? They laughed and said do whatever you want because you are free. We're having a recess but when the bell rings you better not delay in the playground, things are speeding up. You don't want to be late, and make sure everyone gets on board while you're directing traffic.
Be here now because where else could you be and tomorrow is now. then they went off and released some underground pressure in a fault.

here's a meditation I'm doing currently regarding The Unobstructed Universe. dang, nice title. think of it, on another dimension of life ongoing, I shall cease to stub me toe!
anyhoo, here we have a concept. On Earth, Alan points out from his sources of thought, that the Earth is overpopulated. I'm contrary to that. there's enough vacant land out there for each person on Earth to have an acre to themselves...however, this is another one of my unrealistic thoughts.
we are all dependent on each other to survive..and clumps of people survive much better than isolated people. that means we talk about Earth resources. I say get a horse and get a tent. another unrealistic thought but I'm an old Indian in revelry.
now I'm really off track  >:( The unobstructed universe defines Life in the physical plane at "quantitative" and life in the spirit plane as "qualitative."

Now you can see why I must go bake some bread and allow that to rise!

love to you all while I go do that.  :)

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 15th, 2008 at 1:04pm
Some artwork as I join this thread I'd like to interpret these photos in alignment with Alan's contribution about swords:

I do not have the names of the artists, but this is a sort of tribute to them whereever they are as I've used these images when I blog.

From Alan's post, which is taken from his own sources:  He "The Great One" fashioned the Sword of Flame by thought, for he knew that there would come a time when the souls of men would require more than the energies of their own "lifestreams" to cut themselves free from the shackles and creations into which they weave their wrong energies.      
   
It is a Sword of Redemption, a Sword of Hope, a Sword of Freedom, and when the last soul has passed over the bridge into eternal Light, when the last book of record has been closed and sealed, when the Ascension of the last "lifestream" is completed, and every tiny electron that is presently functioning in distorted form is again redeemed and returned to the Source- that Sword will be no more.!

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when I first saw this image I was blitzed into an altered state of reflection, what it meant. personally of course. I thought of the angel with the sword as protecting her sister angel while she prayed, creating the prayer to manifest aid upon the Earth. While in prayer attitude, then we are protected from distorting influences, and so there is pure purpose in prayer, as well pure power for goodness to prevail. then I thought of these two beings represented soul qualities in all of us. We have the power of the sword, in our will, in our willingness also. and We have the vast potential of the earnest prayer for peace on earth as it is in heaven.
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This is depicted as a fairy with a sword. the first thought came to mind when I saw this one was the feminine develops a masculine balance within to utilize the power of the will, as the fairy is related to earth and nature, she attends to all life sprouting upon the Earth to protect it's growth and honor it.
Some say it is phallic worship and laugh it off, that the sword symbol is this. not so in truth.
For all of us must balance our feminine/masculine qualities in the end. It simply represents an action principle and that mankind, enlightened, will not settle for less than the truth, for less than is our heritage as children of the light, from whence we came, to where we return.
It is nearly time to begin the universal celebration of our freedom from the illusion that we are not free from malady, oppression and which the media presents to us, with no spiritual food whatsoever, we prepare our own dinner.

love, alysia

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 15th, 2008 at 9:12pm
Alysia dear,
Yes I will rethink the overpopulation input, what I meant was more in the line of uncontrolled exponential population increase now seen especially in the poorer counties, who can really not afford this and con not now feed their hungry ones. Also where humans live in appalling confined places of poverty all sorts of depravity happen. Of course, this also happens in more so called advanced societies.



Quote:
the other day I was talking to the watchers regarding our exit plans. they told me to go to the back of the line, because the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. I asked do you want me to wave my arms in the direction of the exit? They laughed and said do whatever you want because you are free. We're having a recess but when the bell rings you better not delay in the playground, things are speeding up. You don't want to be late, and make sure everyone gets on board while you're directing traffic.
Be here now because where else could you be and tomorrow is now. then they went off and released some underground pressure in a fault.


Do you really communicate with the Watchers, if so I am interested in more facts, or are you perhaps joking and pulling my leg, which is also ok with me?

love

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 17th, 2008 at 2:52pm
Do you really communicate with the Watchers, if so I am interested in more facts, or are you perhaps joking and pulling my leg, which is also ok with me?

love
alan

you can't tell if I'm serious or not?  :) I think the watchers are what is spoken of in our studies as "helpers." Some of them were physical and are now nonphysical beings with a larger overview of the world and spiritual/physical evolution.

what I said, which caused you to consider whether I'm joking or not is just a way to use language to get a point across about staying in the now moment, I would advise that nobody try to escape, or exit planet Earth without first consulting with me!...just joking, that last part.

I have seen door keeper spirits, these are like close affiliates of a physical person, like their guidance factor..these doorkeepers you have to go thru them first, if you want to speak to that person, they want to make sure your intentions are perfectly good ones.

Watchers? I feel like I am a watcher myself. love to you Alan, for all your assistance on this board. alysia

oh wait, Blink, a Pulitzer prize for Dylan? they should give him about a half dozen.  :)

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on Apr 17th, 2008 at 3:20pm
Alan, my eternal gratitude to you for bringing together such beautiful ideas in one place. I consider it a brave act.

There is an extraordinary amount of truth spilling into this forum. It must be interpreted with love. The guidance is here, visible for those who understand, and must be received with an open heart.

I will take these ideas and meditate quietly on them for a while.

love, blink

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 18th, 2008 at 3:34pm
thanks Alan, I agree with Blink, it takes courage to post up new ideas. there's probably too much here to respond to; I'll just add a few cents then, that I like the part about singing..

as a matter of fact I sing in this life. going out tonite to do just that, and I know it's done on other planes of existence. I like this part at the end  
"Perception is the building blocks of existence and creation.

would like to add it is indeed a building block, perception is what we pick up information from utilizing our five senses which are limited here, but more unlimited in the afterlife areas. Perception, therefore is not knowledge, nor wisdom. but we work with it and life is truly a gift as far as I can see!

love, alysia

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 18th, 2008 at 5:49pm
Thank you Alysia and Blink, Bets

Look at the bottom of the message I will just add a few things. Now I will edit beautify and prune the message, as new words come into my mind. It will not get longer but become more understandable as time goes by.

love

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 19th, 2008 at 3:08pm
hey there Alan, just looking at perception..the last part of the message is fascinating..it makes the mind stop in dead air. anything that can stop my mind is to be revered.

first was perception (remember the bible? the word of god moved upon the waters?)

I think regarding the word of god upon the waters, was that God breathed himself out upon the waters, from which all life sprang, then and this was evolution. his breath is like his word. a word is actualized into materialization.

now we move onto the perception thing. your discourse says First came perception which was glorious light. (god is light energy, intelligence)

first cause is God. It moves, has light properties, it is alive, it has breath. It made creatures to breath with life.

the comment "if something is not perceived by anything it does not exist." think on that for a moment while we pause for a commercial.



I apologize to any atheists here. I just think its funny. probably god doesn't think it's funny at all.

does this mean if someone doesn't think I'm funny therefore I don't exist? no, it just means all of god's chillun have their own perceptions and do not necessarily need moi to entertain them.

getting off track. If something is not perceived by anything it does not exist. this is like Greek stuff. if a tree in the forest falls, does it make a sound?

if a bird or a worm is there it does. many say nay, it doesn't make a sound if a human ear is not there. however gravity law works and the effect of a falling tree is the sound of gravity making an impact. so I say, yes it makes a sound.

then we could say out of sight, out of mind. I say out of sight, lol, I WISH it were out of mind!

back to perception not existing if no one is there to perceive it.

on a positive track, which I fail to see why I'd go negative tracking...this thought above is about monism and if we speak of our oneness, we perceive each other perceiving. if someone is not there to perceive us perceiving, it's a lonely world.

being alone however, has its positive side too! for even when alone I perceive god is watching me being alone.
thanks for working me over Alan. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/spiritvideo/Alysia/obsession/th_friends.jpg




Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by betson on Apr 19th, 2008 at 7:42pm
Greetings,

It seems we can help to make thoughts real by perceiving them, but only if we accept them.  When they are presented with beauty and faith, it's easier to perceive them.
Even as we share them, we add our own variations to their meaning and this could weaken original meanings. Still the general theme is there and many will see their interpretation come true.

I'm still working on the interpretation part but I'm grateful that the ideas are filled with hope and beauty.

Bets







Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 20th, 2008 at 12:09pm
hey alan....you quoted: When you enter this world don't try to rationalize or understand it, or you may go mad for it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation
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comment: this instills fear in a neophyte about the going mad part. words are powerful. here's how I'd reword it to bypass the illusory fear of going mad. when a person fears going mad, it is something that has not happened yet. therefore if it hasn't happened yet, you can dismiss the fear thought as something quite unreal because the mind here has a tendency to blow things up.  In truth, we need fear nothing, because fear is nothing real. Compare the going mad to our TMI studies of what a belief system crash is. A belief system crash can seem like madness is close..however, we all tend to get through those crashes smelling better afterwards.
The revelatory state of consciousness is to be in direct communication with unlimited greater being, referred in ACIM to direct communication with God. Although it is seldom achieved by the masses and should not be a goal in itself, it does happen. however whoever wrote this ditty is not completely God realized, my opinion, otherwise they would watch more carefully the words which strike fear; fear is the opposite of love, or the nearest opposite of love.
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All realms exist in the same space, and yet remain separate and distinct by the vibration or frequency of consciousness, which forms each realm. We are eveywhere and everywhen   at the same moment, time and space are no more
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comment: this part is true; the two worlds are One. the Our material world is like a shadow of the Otherworld. the frequency, the vibration is the movement of thought at different rates; this creates a veil over the perception. the two worlds, as we see it now, are slowly beginning to blend. Orthic or true time on the other side as nonphysical beings is is more like experiencial or psychological manipulation of time, not like clock time, not like being bound to clock time. We are also creating of the sense of space, expanding it or de-expanding it, like playing with atoms and molecules.
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“The tree that falls unperceived makes no sound”
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thinking about this some more since u put it up again. I think what it could refer to a person's sense of isolation. say, a person can die on this planet and make no sound dying, in other words, that person could be so isolated, that no one percieves their death. they have fallen unperceived, in that sense.
However, I fail to see this statement as leading to any wisdom food. it is totally open to interpret anyway you want.  If we search our minds and our hearts, certain bible passages are leading us to the truth. He sees the sparrow fall. If he sees the sparrow fall, and if we are all one, I still say the fallen, whether tree or man or bird, do make a sound. The sound of a man is his breath leaving his body.
If God is All, He hears and takes back what is His.
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Danger comes from the crescent moon
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perhaps this relates to astrology which I'm not into. again, a thought which leads to anywhere and nowhere. a toy thought. there is no danger. we are safe, and dreaming we are in a nightmare.
it's all real, just until you know there is nothing to fear, as fear is not real.
This is not really new age stuff..this is older esoterics..there's value in it, but there's some more modern literature out there which is much more stimulating to myself. just my opinion, as in the end, if it causes you to think, it's good. it's all good.

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 20th, 2008 at 5:15pm
  Alysia

Your Quote

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hey alan....you quoted: When you enter this world don't try to rationalize or understand it, or you may go mad for it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation
 

The "world" here is the ultimate progressive plane a soul can ascend before uniting with the "Cosmic Mind" "I have deleted the "go mad comment". I put it in  due to my insatiable  excessive curiousity, constant thinking and trying to ralionalise consepts like infinity eternity, nothingness, going into the very mind of God. I ended up in a mental insitution. So now that which is beyond understanding "I just accept" Leave alone the inscrutable

The City of Light could very well be the same city as Revelations

People of the crescent moon, think on this one more who are they????

I really appreciate comments and as a forum we can edit and rework this message as something  beautiful

love

alan

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 20th, 2008 at 11:14pm
oh I understand now Alan. That's quite a journey you took. Sometimes I don't know whether it's you talking or somebody else's material. so thanks for clarifying.

I'm kinda glad you made it here, to us.  :)  I think I prefer being a child of the sun, then a child of the crescent moon though.

I'm a little stubborn and easily confused. love to you, alysia

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 21st, 2008 at 7:38am

    Hi All again and so the message continues” 14            
     
I am the Author and write the story of existence and creation on the fabric of eternal infinite light    

I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I speak to you by my watchers above the moon.

I am the Painter and paint existence and creation on the fabric of infinite eternal light I  am “HE”


I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I want you all to come together and dwell in my mind. The white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat.          
     
The watchers your personal angelic guides are watching over the forum of humanity to bring about a group mind. Those in the narrow black belt will be very significant.              
     
Beings from within the universal light view planet earth, the winter of the three second man has come and into the vast void they must migrate, and the earth revert to original beauty in a future time on the horizon not far. The end is not the end but the beginning of cosmic humanity.              
     
The watchers watch, the watchers watch and plan your exit.              
     
     
The beginning of the beginning and all creation is but the twilight of a new dawn. We the Initiators tell humanity that you are creatures of a twilight zone and all you have accomplished is but a dream of your new awakening.            
     
Now in a new future day, in the unending succession of days you will migrate out into the void of light and dark. Arise and see the dawn listen to the sounds of rain, rivers, wind, white water and seas. For the long nights of travail will really end.            
     
We within the shimmering light the Watchers look at “ultimate humanity, surrounded them by a glow of our eternal light, and answered their questing with feelings of pure love.            
     
How beautiful all life beings blended as if they became one with the Great Ones. Moreover, as they did, every single unique soul began to chant with the same feeling, 'I can feel how beautiful you are Oh! God. How blissful to love you'            
     
     
We the Messengers remember well our contemplation, pondering on how to best serve humanity through the ages. We fashioned out of thought the sword of flame which has been with us all through the eons since, and which is used to cut the souls of men free from the shackles of the wrongs of their creation.          
     
We come with hope from shimmering light realms beyond the universe, which is or self-chosen home. We move as great eyes roaming the planes of existence as messengers of the Divine.            
     
He "The Great One" fashioned the Sword of Flame by thought, for he knew that there would come a time when the souls of men would require more than the energies of their own "lifestreams" to cut themselves free from the shackles and creations into which they weave their wrong energies.            
     
It is a Sword of Redemption, a Sword of Hope, a Sword of Freedom, and when the last soul has passed over the bridge into eternal Light, when the last book of record has been closed and sealed, when the Ascension of the last "lifestream" is completed, and every tiny electron that is presently functioning in distorted form is again redeemed and returned to the Source- that Sword will be no more.!          
     
A journey into a far country is near, that country is the future.          

Mortal humanity will have to exit a bursting world and migrate out into the vastness of the universe


Through unification of all human souls on planet Earth, a new giant life form, holding a much bigger spirit within the souls of humans is going to emerge. 'The ultimate beautiful Mandala of human beings'          
     
You, the entire humanity, are going to proceed with it. After the unification process with each other, you humans on Earth are going to make the main evolutionary step, the ultimate one as individual humans. You are going to bond with a greater, enormous universal soul until you make the final merging with the “Infinite One”        
     
Multitude cannot exist without its oneness and oneness cannot exist without determination by multitude.          
     
Something of enormous significance will happen before the American spring merges with summer.          
     
”However, let not deception rule your hearts for truly not all is well with mortal man, babies cry mothers and the innocent die. The earth is troubled, traumatized and in travail and we agonize with all”.        
     
"We stand together in the wildest places of the earth and form a forest of hands against the black sky, stretching up, reaching for what is ours to take yet never to attain. Our bodies begin to pulsate to a subliminal rhythm and we feel the imminence of contained energy, soon to be released. Sing songs that resonate the ancient names. I Invoke the helpers/initiators/watchers and the Great Eye as they come to you, they are strangers with the eyes of men."        
   
     
The growth and development of a great cosmic body that is carrying in her womb the growth and development of a final soul, providing the environment and experience necessary for a gateway back to the “Source”.        
     
This will allow any being from any species and on any frequency spectrum to incarnate learn what it truly means to be in the image of God. Loving, caring, compassionate, understanding, tolerant and so on it goes, all of the qualities that make up and constitute a human being.  A harmonious blend between the physical and spiritual.        
     
The metamorphosis that you and your beloved planet are currently going through has already been experienced by other greater beings. These beings of composite light are not perfect and the agreement for them to incarnate at this critical stage has been granted under their request so that they may lead by example and take responsibility to right their wrongs of their past. Just like mortal man.        
     
These more developed souls also known as Ascended Masters are not to be worshipped. Repeat, are not to be worshipped. Just respected and understood.        
     
     
Standing on the bare ground, bathed by the blithe air, and uplifted into infinite space, all mean egotism vanishes. We become a transparent and vanish – We are nothing! I AM that sees all; the currents of the Universal Being circulate through us. We all are part or parcel of God.        
     
Moving into mystic light the evolved promoted soul, at last reaching its final incarnation and beautiful state, “expands to infinity” and becomes one with the Divine composite Mind, knowing everything.      
     
When reaching this state of absolute the vast horizon before you becomes limitless time, past, present. Future all merge into "ONE” and you become God, and yet at the same moment remain the minutest quantum particle, incredible and contradictory as this seems to you confined now in material bodies.  Entire existence, the universe and all are blazing grids of soul mandals of infinite multi colored lights spreading out into infinity...      
     
Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s    
 
We become "Omega Point" again  
 
Reach the Ocean vast and deep beyond understanding,    
 
 
Like a vast tide, Being will have engulfed the shifting sands of being, within a now tranquil Cosmic Ocean of inter-connectedness  
 
Like a mirror polished to give a perfect reflection of the Sun, all those apparently separate rays of consciousness would know themselves to be the same “Eternal Light”.  
 
"Now we can at last create a New Reality"      
   
And our spirit moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light    
   
The great wheel of existence turned to a new creation. The golden infinite Sun rose out from the limitless plane at omega point of nothingness    
   
Now all things will reach zero non-dimensional nothing and only new something is now possible , indeed we are "Omega Point" again    
   
   
A new dawn in the everlasting ever turning wheel of life, existence and creation begins to revolve by the hand of the Ultimate One. Shackles of learning are thrown off as all knowledge amalgamated into one unimaginable vast new Oneness of all particles containing life. Then there was "THOUGHT” Now together we must begin again making better than before and the light split into infinite fragments of blinding incomprehensible beauty.    
 
I AM the never resting ceaseless eternal creator I never stop creating. "I AM" also the everlasting sustainer of all things.    
   
"Know this all souls are eternal having no beginning and no end".    
 
You were distributed and spread out by countless rivers of forgetfulness into realms, planes and dimensions of the infinite cosmos, for a purpose of progressing by learning, so that you might become co creators with the Divine.    
 
Successful souls come back through countless rivers of memories to merge with the "Final higher Self", assimilating into the Super-consciousness again.  Nothing can be destroyed or added to existence, which is the building block of creation.    
   
Failed souls that have done wrong will be banished for a while or converted to mindlessness and regenerated, successful souls will retain their unique awareness within the infinite cosmic mind. Together all become the final MIND" and "THOUGHT" at the "Omega Point". So We the Omni-Being all-powerful, We just have to. Think" do this and it is done, do that and it is done.  Continue this and it continues, stop and it stops, create this and it is created. Sustain and it is sustained.    
   
Coming back to original, "Thought” you must cross the countless rivers of memory and know all things again before new knowledge are added...    
   
Let us create new man. "It was the first day of order in the new creation" all old things will pass away into the darkness. The great journey into ever better new realities must continue to progress forever.    
   
"GREAT FATHER SPIRIT" moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light”        
   
The "Lord" formed us from his being and substance us in the beginning of his works, before all else, at the "Alpha Point"    
   
When "HE" set the heavens in their place, we were there, before he made    
the earth, We are his darling children and played the creation game, in    
eternal joy with him. We will become was his craftspeople and his companions and    
delight. Wisdom and word is our names and we were with him before creation began    
other creation.  .    
   
We together with mighty superstrings we weaved together  colossal    
strands of energetic light colored in beautiful magnificent    
opalescence into the very fabric of reality and a new unimaginably    
beautiful realities will be born in glory and delight.    
   
We will sing the song of creation together as new existence began to    
vibrate with countless frequencies of light, glory translucent and    
everlasting with the vibrations of the song of creation. The singer    
sang the song, the painter the painting, the creator the creation.    
   
 
The Great Amalgamated "Soul Thought/Mused for a brief moment and "perceived" within its colossal "MIND" a new reality and said let us create existence again.  
   
"Thus came the first perception" which is glorious pure light  
 
"If something" is not "perceived' by anything it does not exist"    
 
"Perception is the building blocks of existence and creation"  

If we are the only existing ONE OR ONES then we perceive ourselves or self from within our minds /thoughts. "God THE EVER EXISTING ONE" perceives himself regardless and everything emanated from this “SOURCE”

The highest realm of existence

Everything is now God’s imagination. Without it, nothing would exist. When a soul finally reunites with “Source”, it retains a certain amount of its individuality yet is still in complete harmony with all other thought beings. The Godhead is an ever-expanding energy force and each returning spirit, having achieved that degree of fineness, breadth of thought and understanding, adds to the infinity of experience within the Godhead. The spirit itself continues to expand into infinity complete harmony and oneness until it finally merges into such greatness that there are no words to describe it.

This is a spectacular dimension! Iridescent rivers of sound bounded by rainbow shores of pulsating light. Thoughts appear as kaleidoscopic patterns of light and sound. You walk across fields of ideas of knowledge and understanding. Under a sparkling crystal sky of inspiration. When you enter this final realm, do not try to rationalize or understand it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation

All realms exist in the same space, and yet remain separate and distinct by the vibration or frequency of consciousness, which forms each realm. We are everywhere and everywhen at the same moment, time and space are no more.

“The tree that falls unperceived makes no sound”

Danger comes from the crescent moon.
Within the primeval moment, I awoke alone in the infinite darkness.
I was mind and original thought and mused what was I.

“I am” god said I in my imagination, the prime mover.

There was nothing but "I" then in the lonely dark.
My lonely heart cried out to the infinite night
And I began to imagine creation and eternal companions.

"Let there be light" I spoke
And there was light in the void of everlasting darkness

From my imagination, I created all things in beauty and light
And was pleased by my mighty effort
A new creation began again out of the chaos of the previous
In this new creation darkness is banished forever

I am first awareness
I am mind
I am thought
I am imagination
I am light
I am everything

I imagined in my mind humanity
And created man in my image ("imagine-man")
I perceived my handwork and was pleased.
The ever-repeating journey began again  
"We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively





   Any comments?    
   
Love    
alan  
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Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:59am
lol, u'r still working it Alan! :)

you said:  Everything that can be imagined will be imagined or has been imagined by man is a reality out there in the vast somewhere.
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this reminds me of the story below; how fictional characters created by another came alive for his partner; its something to ponder about our creative natures working with creative thought elements. I am forced to consider I am a thought of God, and live and move within and have my being by the grace of God.  grace is an entirely new subject. we will probably unravel that rote sometime in life, each in his own time.
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The Exploration (not done on AKC, this from another forum group)

Okay, now I know this sounds incredibly far fetched. I'm still not entirely sure whether to believe it or not, but its just so incredible that I almost dont care.

I'm posting this with my friend Spectral Dragon's permission. He was the one who actually did the exploration since I can't project yet. I merely helped orient him towards the details of the various worlds. He wants me to post thsi instead of him since it will add more validity.

Anyway, one night I was over at Spectral Dragon's house. We were both discussing thought-forms, and I came up with the idea for him to try and explore the section of the astral where the world from a fantasy series I'm writing might be contained. Well, he was successful. It turns out that particular section of the astral connected to a whole other physical universe, with its own creator.

Spectral traveled down to the world of my story, looking for the various cities and characters. Much to my shock, he was able to confirm details of this world that I had not yet revealed, such as geographical details, hidden ruins and future developments. For instance, he discovered an island in one of the oceans containing a transdimensional bubble, an aspect of my world I had taken ardous measures not to reveal. He was able to find my characters, and accurately describe their looks and personality, still finding details I hadn't yet mentioned. Furthermore, he was even able to talk to some of them. He had a long conversation with a dragon I had yet to introduce and a powerful female spirit.

The female spirit and other gods watching over this particular solar system were quite surprised by his presence, but knew what was going on, since travelers can pass between universes. They even asked him to spar a particular person. :) One of the most interesting aspects of this world though, was the fact that it had already moved on several decades past the time my story took place, even though I'm still writing it. It wasnt just a subjective realm creating in the astral by my imagination, it had its own tangible existance.

My jaw keeping falling ever closer to the floor as he continually confirmed details of my universe. After that we investigated several other fictional worlds such as the Wheel of Time, the Shannara series and Final Fantasy 9. Spectral found that the world of FF9 is much bigger than shown in the game, which was to be expected.

Both of us were utterly amazed by when we finally finished. Seeing evidence of the actual existance of my universe made me sort of feel like a proud father.  

We both speculated as to what connection I might have with my story, as that universe had its own creator. The conclusion we came to, is that writers such as myself are actually channeling stories, especially the clear ones, but that furthermore, we are connected to these higher Gods on a level beyond time and space, and thus the ideation that brings worlds into existance is a co-creation of sorts.

After talking over this, I found that my vision of this story seems to have strengthened. It was very inspiring. Has anyone else had any experiences such as this?
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alysia's comment: the key word to concentrate on here to unravel a rote is "co-creation."


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 29th, 2008 at 7:10pm
Alysia, Ahh!! I perceive a incisive smart mind in you and you pick up so easily what I am trying to condense and summerise into as few a words as possible!!

Quote from your post

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We both speculated as to what connection I might have with my story, as that universe had its own creator. The conclusion we came to, is that writers such as myself are actually channeling stories, especially the clear ones, but that furthermore, we are connected to these higher Gods on a level beyond time and space, and thus the ideation that brings worlds into existance is a co-creation of sorts
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Yes, this states exactly what I was trying to define in my own way. All those fantasy Sci-fi movies that seem so absolutely far-fetched are realities channeled unknowingly by the author.

It is exactly my point we simply cannot imagine something that is an impossibility. Out there in the great "somewhere", "somehow" and "somewhen" everything exists as concrete realities in the Super consciousness, Cosmic Mind, Universal Mind call it what you will.

My Thread

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When and if we imagine something that is not contained in the Super- consciousness then we are Gods and Co-creators. This might appear nonsensical to you. Well google the almost infinitely infinitesimal smaller internet (“Smaller than what I call the Super-consciousness) on nearly any subject and you are very likely to find someone has already thought up on the subject you where researching.


My Thread

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Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s



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Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s


If you reread the extracts from my thread you will see I was just saying the same sort of thing in my own unique way

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 30th, 2008 at 3:17pm
hmm Alan..u certainly are a spring loaded mystic..not bad, but I'm not finished commenting on your first post...! take it easy on me.  :)  you did a double quote above; it shows you are running on high octane and need to come back and get us.

I read feelings here, the energy signature. glad u got something out of my post. (it was someone else's work, I reiterate, not my own but I resonate with it too.)

to simplify, due to I don't want to sit here all day, your remarks remind me of a Beatles tune "nothing you can do that can't be done, nothing you can say ain't been said..."

then I've always believed thoughts are things. that thought has form. that thought is energy taking form. this may be the reason we try to figure out what God is, and can't, because we are trying to put God into a form, which is 3 dimensional thinking.

as to your vision listed at the bottom of your last post, I only take exception to the part that says God is a separate mind. Rather, I look upon humanity existing within the Mind as mind. Mind would be God, using the capital letter M, the individual would me lower case letter of m.

but I agree that we are God's creations and we will ultimately consolidate into Oneness of the new cycle.

I don't want u to be terrified as you expressed it. I think being terrified is something we do to ourselves because of all we don't "know." the unknown is often scary, but it looks all good from where I'm standing, whats on our plate.
Again, within duality a separation is an appearance of separation. We cannot be separated from what loves us. Love is the only absolute, from my perception at present. Appearances are another subject, and has to do with limited perception capabilities.
PUL is expansion principle to widen what is narrow.

to open what is closed.
God we make in our image. it's true, God is not how we "want" him to be Yet if we "want" to see God, consistently enough, it is more than possible to see God truly, then we will slip into the super consciousness area you're talking about.
Desire and intention are missing from your dialogue, just adding my 2 cents.

Point 3 of your vision (wow!) about having access to the divine, to my pov is basically stop seeing yourself as separate from God. u mentioned we have access on God's terms and conditions, the way I see this is through surrender to God's will.

Perhaps this has to do with a yearning to return to God. I do believe the ego can and does resist returning to God, but if u look, you can notice, there is a yearning running throughout mankind now to return to God, or manifest the heaven on Earth concept, would maybe be the same idea, as finding a better way than what has gone before.

the 4rth point is like the thoughts are things idea. it's a little like the life review we do upon transition. according to mystics this life is shown in vivid detail, the smallest action of kindness is shown how that manifested in our afterlife area as a marked advancement to the sum total of humanity, I mean how it might have rebounded and multiplied our good, here or there.

I don't think anything is eternal which is dark and heavy. PUL is eternal, but I don't see evil as anymore eternal than a shadow is when light approaches.

A lie cannot be the truth at the same time. but I think I know what u r driving at. In that both negative and positive thoughts can manifest in our 3 dimensional areas. In that case, the choice is ours.

the dimensions of dark and light you saw I would conjecture as belief system territories, where all can gravitate to where they fit in best, in the afterlife, these were called many mansions in my Father's Home in the bible.

the movie is almost played out?  :) thats darn good news Alan, as I'm getting tired of sitting here in the theater seat.

number 8 and 2 is the same concept. no matter how we try, God is too large to fit into a human form. so what I see u saying, is the same thing as I gave up trying to do, find the edges of infinity. It is impossible. I think your thoughts also must be taken in chunks, chewed on, savored, digested slowly.

# 9 of the vision humanity is a concept from God's mind and thoughts I agree, and this is why we are not separate from God, and this is why I say the individual is a thought of God.

I'd just take it a little further, it's good to be alive as an individual when we share our oneness and gratitude with each other here on this forum, so then we know we are found in that PUL and not alone and not separate if all together we can conceive we are this God thing also.

Alan, on a personal note, what else did you "feel" during this vision? All I say you typed out you were terrified. I think it was more feelings than that. being an empath, that's what I want to hear about if you could tell me. love to you!

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on Apr 30th, 2008 at 4:10pm
Alysia,

I very much appreciate your analysis and critique of my mystical message. You are one smart lady and miss nothing.

I humble state that I just like the rest of us presently mere mortal I  am fallible and open to learning from others like you who are so well informed on mystical topics.

Yes I am very much an empath and feel the pain sorrow and terrer of others. The feeling in the vision was one of absolute desolation hopelessness and despair of eternal separation from God. Of course this might have come from the fears of my own subconsciousness

PUL is the only eternal thing and that is what I meant when I wrote dark and light must separate forever. Perhaps I should have written dark will be banished forever.

When I wrote we are Gods creation and we are separate souls within the infinite being , I meant it in the sense of that we are separate atoms of awarenesses withing the great ocean of awareness that we call GOD

LOVE

ALAN

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on Apr 30th, 2008 at 6:59pm
oh thats much clearer to me now Alan. Your heart is wide open, is probably why you felt such intense desolation. u will come out of it ok. I feel this.

My mother had a similar sort of happening, just to comfort you, others can feel too much too and it can be terrifying, although I think I'm not afraid of anything anymore, perhaps if I get over confidant God would strike me with something to put me in my place..never know!

heres what happened to mom. Jimmy my brother was involved in the war of Viet Nam as a sargeant. he saw atrocities I won't post. Jimmy was always my mom's favorite kid, they were inseparable. Every nite she would pray for his safety and pine for him.  but still she was in terror for him daily.
So one day she wanted relief from her sorrow and decided to make a deal with God. I don't know why, she always thought she could make deals with God. just the way she is. So she said I will stop smoking if you save his life. (she did stop smoking and he did come home) however, she dreamed one night that God spoke to her in a terrifying voice booming out he said YOU THINK YOU SUFFER?
HERE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IM SUFFERING AS GOD!

She said the grief and sorrow was totally overwhelming every part of her being, and she felt such humility that her suffering was so small in comparison to God's suffering.

well, it's just a dream you could say. since God is not a person. However, maybe she was then tuned into the grid of the entire world's suffering, all the mothers and sons combined?

at any rate she was changed into better person, and she even kept her deal with God because of this experience. I never want to go what she went through that time, but suffering makes a person a diamond in some cases, or at least gets some of the rough edges off of us.

I hope u don't mind my teasing you once in awhile, I do like your posts, I just have trouble reading them when they are so long.

love, alysia

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 2nd, 2008 at 1:40am
Alysia,


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She said the grief and sorrow was totally overwhelming every part of her being, and she felt such humility that her suffering was so small in comparison to God's suffering.

well, it's just a dream you could say. since God is not a person. However, maybe she was then tuned into the grid of the entire world's suffering, all the mothers and sons combined
?

That was no dream; your dear mom dreamed a reality that few really know about.  God suffers with his creation and because of his creation. Are we not just children to God like your brother was to your mom who loved her precious child now in mortal danger and empathized so closely with his terror and horror of war?

Yes and how much more closely does God experience our pain, sorrow and despair? I was lead to pray for God and this was met with distain by Christian friends who stated God is omni-everything and does not need mere mortal to play for him/her. How the hek! Do they know this, so I just continue to pray for our beloved God and get blessed by this action?

Yes how much more closely does God experience our pain, sorrow and for this altruistic act of mine.

One of the awful terrors I experienced that was so similar was that of us sentient beings driving God insane by our non-stop misuse of his divine gift of life to us. Now this might sound right off the wall, but if we are a fragment or part of God and this consolidated fragmentation can lose it so to speak, the essence we can God could go amok.  What would happen to existence if this happen, THE ULTIMATE HORROR?

Now all these fundamentalist sects and hosts of other off the wall lunatic fringe cults erect huge Prayer Towers and gather in millions and pester God day and night with a cacophony of impossible nonsense. Why for heavens sake God knows everything before your ask? this pestering upsets our beloved Father Spirit from whom we all originate.

OH !! Dear I  have at last found a place to express this deep knowledge to someone and hope it makes some sense and does not just come over as convoluted nonsensical conjecture.

Love

Alan[/color]

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by recoverer on May 2nd, 2008 at 5:08pm
Regarding whether God suffers, one night I had a series of experiences where I was being shown some of the unpleasant things God or Christ (probably both) have to experience, because some people and beings keep creating experiences within their realm of experience that are unpleasant to experience.

Both Howard Storm and George Ritchie explained during their NDE accounts about how unpleasant God and Christ find it when people and spirits do negative things. They wrote that it hurts them when they do such a thing.

What if any of us had a child we dearly love, this child did negative things, and we had to be aware of what this child does?

Somewhat similar, Bruce Moen wrote about how light beings start crying when spirits who made their way out of lower realm, end up going back to a lower realm because of the pull such a realm has on such spirits.

Other sources state that all of heaven rejoices when a spirit at a lower level ascends to a higher level.

I believe that some of us need to help elevate the consciousness level of this World, so God, Christ and other light beings don't have to witness the negativity some people and spirits create.

My feeling is that a being of love can never rest, as long as other beings are still suffering.

I must add that I've been shown in several ways that if a spirit wants to ascend to a higher level, it is free to do so.

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 2nd, 2008 at 7:50pm
Recoverer,


Your Quote


Quote:
Regarding whether God suffers, one night I had a series of experiences where I was being shown some of the unpleasant things God or Christ (probably both) have to experience, because some people and beings keep creating experiences within their realm of experience that are unpleasant to experience.

Both Howard Storm and George Ritchie explained during their NDE accounts about how unpleasant God and Christ find it when people and spirits do negative things. They wrote that it hurts them when they do such a thing


Absolutely correct again!

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on May 3rd, 2008 at 10:33pm
Alan is this your own stuff?  :)

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 4th, 2008 at 3:26pm
Alysia,


Quote:
Alan is this your own stuff?


Only the wordings 'Sword of Redemption' is from a different source (worshipers of the Ach -angel Michael) I borrowed this wording from them to avoid using the word Christ as it would seem I would be pushing Christianity. I believe Christ and Michael could be the same Being as Michael means “He who is Like God”, and who is more like God than Christ? This sword who in my mind is the sword of flame preventing access the Garden of Eden, sword of Hope, and of everlasting freedom.

This is sourced exclusively from within my mind. I have long used the “Term Monad” to indicate beings existing in different dimensions with different degrees of consciousness or awake- ness or asleep- ness. We are just dreams to monads on a lower dimension of reality and our reality is just a dream to those on a higher vibration of existence, all the way up to Source and unfortunately all the way down.

The rest comes from inspiration from within the antic of my strange poetic mind,” why do you doubt my ability to construct such a message or does the whole thing just go over as nonsensical conjecture

Believe me my mind has gone to much much more stranger places than this message, such as being absorbed into existence, infinity, absolute nothingness, eternity, what was there before this existence, when god was alone A loneness so unimaginable, so unspeakably incomprehensible.

By my empathizing with God for a brief moment resulted in my being hospitalized. I am and always have been insatiably curious about everything and my life outside that of my profession has been one long search for meaning and understanding what most people take for granted

There are many things I could still share with the forum, but I will play it by as it comes. To show you that I am what I say I am, go back a few pages and see my remarkably accurate remote viewing of forum members who are all complete strangers to me separated by thousands of miles. Or go to Kevin Williams near death site and you will see I predicted/prophesied both Hurricane Katrina and the tsunami that killed a quarter of a million people.

I often wonder does the forum want only dialogue and is a genuine mystic come psychic not welcome. But I am fallible and human just like the rest of you and make mistaked and learn as I try to progess to a higher consciousness



Christ is the redeemer

If you want to tie me down as to what I am exactly I would say the best description of this entity that makes up “me” is that of a “Christian Mystic”. Christ is and remains the most powerful supernatural  genuine mystic to ever walk the earth,he is God Incarnated"

Love

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on May 4th, 2008 at 11:02pm

Alan McDougall wrote on May 4th, 2008 at 3:26pm:
[color=#000000]Alysia,

[quote]Alan is this your own stuff?


Only the wordings 'Sword of Redemption' is from a different source
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Me:this explanation dearlite, above is truly all that I was asking for.
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This is sourced exclusively from within my mind. I have long used the “Term Monad” to indicate beings existing in different dimensions with different degrees of consciousness or awake- ness or asleep- ness. We are just dreams to monads on a lower dimension of reality and our reality is just a dream to those on a higher vibration of existence, all the way up to Source and unfortunately all the way down.
_____
Me: Thats good. I also do believe we are just dreams all the way to Source and all the way down. and I'm sure my image of you is partially true and partially false.
_____

The rest comes from inspiration from within the antic of my strange poetic mind,” why do you doubt my ability to construct such a message or does the whole thing just go over as nonsensical conjecture
_____

sweetie, I explained above, I want to relate to YOU! I needed clarification about your material source is all so I can recieve your very own energy signature and get to know who ALAN is! we are both empathic.
______

By my empathizing with God for a brief moment resulted in my being hospitalized.
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Me: Alan, you're here now. thats all that matters. that hospital stay was part of your journey planned before incarnation. You are still healing up from the effects of that, and seem to be well on your way to expressing yourself perfectly, at least to me.  :) I know a few people here have said some unkind things to you; I can assure you my own thought does not join with theirs concerning yourself.
______

To show you that I am what I say I am, go back a few pages and see my remarkably accurate remote viewing of forum members who are all complete strangers to me separated by thousands of miles.
____

yea, and so, ahem, where is your remote viewing of moi? huh?  ;D  yes, I read it and it seems quite authentic viewing. I have a sense of humor, so don't really expect you to view me. I want you to enjoy your stay here with us because the future is uncertain how long we will all be together here to share.
______

I often wonder does the forum want only dialogue and is a genuine mystic come psychic not welcome.
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Me: Alan, who knows what the forum wants!?  I'm surprised actually you stuck around after the welcome you did NOT receive.  I can only speak for myself, what I want. and I asked you a question and you always answer me right away. so I got what I wanted. thats like incredible to me, as our questions here hardly ever get answered to our satisfaction, speaking personally of course.
so I deduced we come together in spite of that. thanks for hanging in with us! It ain't easy for any of us, during this thing I call a shift in consciousness. btw, when I post here, I see in my mind millions of faces, I'm talking to god, or I'm talking to the whole world when I'm here. Nothing I say or ask, should ever be taken to mean critisism or a judgment, and so don't take anything personally, and you'll know that I'm on your side that way. I'm sitting over here with a heart full of love for you, and for all the posters I talk to, and thats something I cannot really put into the typed word. I feel you understand me.
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I think I'm a Christian mystic too, although I'm beginning to think those kind of labels really mean, from another solar system not discovered yet perhaps. I think JC was so advanced in evolution this planet was not his point of origin, therefore, it's not mine either. Now, please just be yourself and don't jump to conclusions that I'm not wanting what you post. I just wanted to know all sources I can get, because I relate directly to those sources, and if you say that's from you, I believe it and frankly, you need to publish yourself. I mean in a book. However, I know that can get expensive. think about it, you could give your gift to the world this way.
______

also, I like the way you sometimes put under your post "comments anybody?"

it always motivates me to join in. We seem to like invitations here.  :)

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 5th, 2008 at 12:51am
Alysia,

Thank you so much for taking the effort and time to explore, analyze and comment so fully and completely on my posts. They do really inspire me to continue in my pledge to reach high for the ultimate truth that is out there for all of us to grasp.

You will have noticed I take to heart your comments and act on them, such as removing population growth as mans primary threat and the aspect about terror, that served no purpose gives a negative connotation to the forum. I need critique like yours so that the message can become "that of the whole forum and not just from two sources", namely at time of writing you and me,

Your imprint is in the message by your positive contributions. The message will from now on not become longer, just edited, refined as inspirations moves the forum or me.

About remote viewing yourself, I can only perform this type of distant mind sight when I am inspired to do so. Something like a poet or painter having to wait for inspiration before beginning their creative works. I know you are aware of what I mean, as you are also a creative person and mystic like myself. When this happens I will gladly do it for you if you would lke this.

Your Quote


Quote:
I see in my mind millions of faces, I'm talking to god, or I'm talking to the whole world when I'm here


This statement is deeply profound, perhaps more deeply than even you realized when you keyed it into your computer. When we talk, write, think or communicate in any way all existence hears and is effected by lesser or greater  degree, our words moves the universe, God and his creature big and small, awesome to think about but absolutely true. We can move the very course of creation and existence by simply stating something profound, such as this truth

love

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 5th, 2008 at 8:56am
Alysia and other interested forum members, check this out,


Quote:
From my post in this thread


"the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat"


World's Largest Tiger Reserve Created in Myanmar”

Myanmar land of the tiger

The world's most ambitious project to establish a protected region for tigers to escape extinction has been given official approval by the Myanmar (Burma) government.
     
The signing of the document by Myanmar leaders more than triples the size of the 2,500-square-mile (6,500-square-kilometer) Hukawng Valley Wildlife Sanctuary, which was established in 2001. The increase in size will expand the sanctuary to an area more than twice the size of Yellowstone National Park in the U.S.—or nearly as large as the state of Vermont. [quote]

[quote]my post repeated

"the white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat and submerged in flood and heat
[/quote]

Myanmar death toll 'nears 4,000'  over 3000 missing, hundreds of thousands homeless.      

STORY HIGHLIGHTS MYANMAR CYCLONE
     
4,000 dead, 3,000 ,  still missing following cyclone, hundreds of thousands homeless, Myanmar state media reports
     Ruling military junta appeals for international aid following deadly storm
     Thailand to send aid supplies to Myanmar at neighbor's request

YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- Almost 4,000 people have died and another 3,000 remain missing in Myanmar as a result of this weekend's devastating cyclone, state media reported Monday.

The soaring death toll was announced as the reclusive southeast Asian country's ruling military junta issued a rare appeal for international assistance in the face of an escalating humanitarian crisis.

The Associated Press reported that resident ambassadors had been summoned to a foreign ministry meeting after a state of emergency was declared across much of the country following the 10-hour storm that left swathes of destruction in its wake.

The government of neighboring Thailand said Myanmar's leaders had already requested food, medical supplies and construction equipment, AP reported. The first plane-load of supplies was due to arrive Tuesday, a Thai spokesman said.

Scenes of the destruction showed flooding, roofs ripped off buildings, uprooted trees and downed power lines after cyclone Nargis battered the Irrawaddy delta throughout Friday night and Saturday morning.

"After about noon, the sky cleared and everybody came out and were just stunned," said Shari Villarosa, U.S. Charge D' Affaires in Yangon. "People on my compound who had been there for about 15 years say they had not seen anything like this here, ever."

Residents of Yangon trudged through knee-deep swirling brown waters Monday as the delta city remained mostly without electricity and phone connections.  Watch the cyclone hammer Yangon »

A spokesman for the Red Cross said the emergency aid group was working with its Myanmar agency to provide drinking water, temporary shelters and blankets and warned that urgent action was needed to limit outbreaks of disease.

"I think one of the biggest needs right now is to stave off disease," said spokesman Eric Porterfield. "We will be helping with the distribution of clean drinking water and setting up shelters."

Relief agencies met at the United Nations' Bangkok headquarters Monday to coordinate their response to the disaster. The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies said it had released 200,000 Swiss Francs (about $190,000) to help with the aftermath.

The U.S. aid group World Vision also said it had responded to a government request for assistance.

"The biggest need is getting water for the "two million affected people," World Vision spokesman Casey Calamusa told CNN, adding that it was rare for the government to ask for help. The ruling junta under sharp criticism from many nations for using force to suppress pro-democracy protests last year.  Learn more about Myanmar »

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A state of emergency was declared Sunday across five regions: the city of Yangon, Irrawaddy, Pegu and the states of Karen and Mon. All flights to Yangon, the former capital, were canceled.
"Most Burmese with whom we've been in touch report they lost their roofs, although so far everyone we have been able to contact reports that they and their families are safe," said a Yangon-based diplomat who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Earlier Monday, an editor for an independent Myanmar newspaper based in Thailand told CNN that people in the Southeast Asian nation were angry over the response to the disaster by the ruling military junta.

"People are very angry with the slow response coming from the military government," said Aung Zaw of Irrawaddy news magazine.

Zaw said communication was down across large areas of the country. He also said the casualty figures could rise.

"Very few people have access to these areas to estimate damage and how many people have been killed."  Listen to Irrawaddy journalist discuss the situation in Myanmar »
Khin Maung Win, a spokesman for the Democratic Voice of Burma -- a broadcast media group run by opposition expatriates -- said the whole of the delta region had been affected and entire villages had disappeared.

Pictures from inside the country showed a cyclone-ravaged region with tin huts crushed under trees. Bicyclists navigated around large branches that littered the deserted roads

JUST ANOTHER GUESS??

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

Source CNN breaking news

Alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by betson on May 5th, 2008 at 9:37am
Greetings,

Re: If we get to do any variation on the poem,
(thank you,  Alan,-- that is very generous of you to turn your creation out to be tended by others)

can we regroup in any way ---say, some topics that seem related but which came later?
Or will that change too much the meanings and rhythm ?

Love, Bets

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on May 5th, 2008 at 11:00am
Yes, Alan, I was wondering this morning when I saw the news if this was related to your prediction. I would say, yes, it is, because you have the "knowing" about it. It feels right to me, but it is a sad and huge event, isn't it?

When I think that some of us can dance and laugh while others cry, and none of us knows why, it makes me wonder. Who will be the heroes of this story?

love, blink



Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by LaffingRain on May 5th, 2008 at 12:43pm
Alysia,

Thank you so much for taking the effort and time to explore, analyze and comment so fully and completely on my posts. They do really inspire me to continue in my pledge to reach high for the ultimate truth that is out there for all of us to grasp.
You will have noticed I take to heart your comments and act on them
___
yes I noticed;  :) is a good reason to like you as u actually read others comments fully.
____

Your imprint is in the message by your positive contributions. The message will from now on not become longer, just edited, refined as inspirations moves the forum or me.
About remote viewing yourself, I can only perform this type of distant mind sight when I am inspired to do so. Something like a poet or painter having to wait for inspiration before beginning their creative works. I know you are aware of what I mean, as you are also a creative person and mystic like myself. When this happens I will gladly do it for you if you would lke this.
____
Me: actually Alan, I've been remote viewed by people I don't know, who pop up here and there and they are  accurate, so I appreciate the offer but was only trying to make you laff. I think everyone here is far too serious. God has everything under control, what we think is going wrong, is our lack of perceiving it is under control.
_____


Quote:
I see in my mind millions of faces, I'm talking to god, or I'm talking to the whole world when I'm here


This statement is deeply profound, perhaps more deeply than even you realized
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Me:
I think you're right. It's deeper than even I know. So deep I cannot even see the everyday world around me anymore; but at least I pay the bills still when they arrive! haha! I think I want to leave and go home Alan, as bad as you do, or appear to want to. It feels good to just admit it, thats what I want. I'm like my hero Monroe when he said "There's nothing here for me now."
I think this happens when something major has been accomplished within the soul, and yet you see the world continues as usual, even though you're the one who has changed, who is satisfied to leave, and all the others, they have their perfect journeys to unfold also and judgment of that is simply interference in the perfect plan.

Bets and Blink dearlites! Monroe is the hero; he always will be so for me.

So now we have a prophet Alan here, in the year 2008, to prove you don't just have prophets in biblical times.  Prophets are everywhere. what is the purpose of prophesy Alan?
Speak to me of a hero. I already know death as you do.
Teach us the secrets of the universe.
_____

Like you do here:

when you keyed it into your computer. When we talk, write, think or communicate in any way all existence hears and is effected by lesser or greater  degree, our words moves the universe, God and his creature big and small, awesome to think about but absolutely true. We can move the very course of creation and existence by simply stating something profound, such as this truth
and here, to sign with love, not many will sign with love
love

alan
______

so a little prayer here in order: God grant me the serenity to change the things I can and to know the difference between what I can change and what I can't and be OK with that.

Peace starts with you.

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 5th, 2008 at 2:24pm

Bets, Alysia and Blink

Thank you for your nice feedback and comments. "I am puzzled why only ladies are interested in this thread? Blink was moved to start it!.

Perhaps I should prophesy that all human problems are going to be resolved and everything becomes hunkydory. But looking at the sad reality of human suffering, wars, pestilence all around us it is hard to come up with anything-sustainable positive. Gas prices, mortgages, hunger, floods, earthquakes are just a reality that man cannot seem to solve.

However, even given the above bleak realities, one must remain positive.

I would like to make a point about Nostradamus, his prophesies were so ambiguous, vague and convoluted that they could mean anything to anyone at any time. Thus Germany selectively using them to prove that they would be victorious and the allies doing the exact same thing from across the channel

The closest he came in my view was a remarkable prediction of the great fire of London in 1666.  

An interesting prophesy I remember from long ago ,(I forgot the prophets name and will look it up) was that the present Pope might be the last Pope and his demise could co-inside with the great change starting in the year 2012.


Bets posted


Quote:
Greetings,

Re: If we get to do any variation on the poem,
(thank you,  Alan,-- that is very generous of you to turn your creation out to be tended by others)

can we regroup in any way ---say, some topics that seem related but which came later?  
Or will that change too much the meanings and rhythm ?

Love, Bets


Bets dear, are you thinking about a change or an elaboration of the topic in a different thread or change course on the present one in some way?. That is OK if you could let us know your suggestion and incorporate it will be incoporated.

Blink you said


Quote:
When I think that some of us can dance and laugh while others cry, and none of us knows why, it makes me wonder. Who will be the heroes of this story?

love, blink


Yes, it is so sad so many of us are not directly affected by the awful trauma the world is going through. On American Idol gives back program I was surprised by the poverty still exiting in the wealthiest county on earth.

But come to Africa and you will see that everything is relative, those living in the worst poverty in America are by comparison living a live of luxury. The unbelievable poverty, disease is so appalling in Africa (And India) that the mind boggles in disbelief that humans could be living in condition that Americans would not subject their animals. But here is the wonder!!  Most of these people  dance Blink in defiance of their appalling deprived lives . Oh!! Yes, the power of the human spirit can never be put out.

Alysia your comments are really taken to heart and as unique humans each have a unique contrbution to make to the whole of existence.

The most amazing thing in all creation, if one thinks about it carefully, is that we "EXIST AND HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED, BECAUSE WE ARE EACH A UNIQUE FINGER PRINT ON ALL EXISTENCE

LOVE

ALAN




Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on May 5th, 2008 at 3:36pm
Ah, so. I see, it is good to dance, and to sing, and to laugh...and to stay strong in the midst of our sorrows.

We will help each other through the darkness and into the light.

There are those who can dance in the darkness, and see by the light of the flames. And, although we may not remember the steps, we can hear the drums beating. Our feet begin to move. Our voices rise up in our throats. We do not know where this music began, and we would not care even so - this music has no beginning, and this music has no end.

We have always been dancing.
We have always been singing.
The fire has always been burning.
The fire will never go out.

Was there ever a setting sun?
Was there ever a rising sun?

There is only the One Light, the one Light of Creation, reaching out to us, reaching out from us, at the center of all we know.

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by betson on May 5th, 2008 at 4:55pm
That's beautiful, Blink!
I wish I could do that!

Bets

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on May 5th, 2008 at 7:06pm
Really, darling Bets? I was only following you.  

Smile....b


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 6th, 2008 at 6:04pm
8-)      (Jan. 15, 2005)
     
Go to links below to verify

On April 16, 2002, Kevin Williams published on his website the near-death testimony of Alan McDougall which contained the following vision of the future


: http://www.near-death.com/newsletters/2005/0115.html

"While this omnipotent being was speaking, I could see a panoramic view of planet earth, as if I was a space man observing the earth, all the time, from the window of a space vehicle. The voice that I took as God, was not pleased with what was happening on our planet, and kept referring to humanity in the terms of "mere mortal man, I am displeased with you" (I cannot remember why he was displeased). While this unseen being "God" was speaking, the earth was revolving and stopping at intervals over each continent, in turn, where a warning message was given to each continent.

What I can remember was that he was saying to humanity that he was displeased with their evil actions in some way. The frustrating part is that I could not retain all that was said to mere mortal man, by this being, while I was with him viewing the earth. I do, however, clearly, remember two warnings:.

One that a cataclysmic event would start from the Indian subcontinent The great Tsunami

The other that the Middle East crises would not be solved by the peacekeeping efforts of man and that divine direct intervention would eventually come to the earth[/highlight], sometime in the future, because of the unbelievable evil that some mere men were perpetuating and directly responsible for on earth (rape of the planet
(September 1, 2005)      


On April 26, 2005, webmaster Kevin Williams received an email from near-death experiencer Alan McDougall informing him of a dream he had the previous night. The subject of the email was "Dream of a disaster from Alan" and this was the contents of the email (verbatim):

Dear All, Last night the 26/4/2005 at 4 a.m. "I dreamed of a disaster happening somewhere on the Earth at the time that the young peaches are still green in South Africa. This is between August and October. Love, Alan." This came to pass with hurricand Katrina.

Alan also predicted the Tsunami Disaster that hit Indonesia on Dec. 26, 2004 (see Near-Death Newsletter Jan. 15, 2005



http://www.near-death.com/newsletters/2005/0901.html




http://www.near-death.com/newsletters/2005/0115.html      





"Just to verify the truth about my prophecies!!

I posted this info. on the forum some time ago and no one showed any interest, so I just removed it then.

Any comments?  just me guessing again, come on!!

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 7th, 2008 at 8:16am
HI, All,

Just to put the catastrophic events in perspective between hurricane Katrina and the cyclone that hit Myanmar on Saturday.


Cyclone Myanmar at time of writing and climbing, 22 000-reported death and 44,000 missing or dead. (Millions homeless)

Hurricane Katrina August, 2, 2006 official final number of deaths 1 464

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on May 7th, 2008 at 3:02pm
Yes, Alan, I see that now they are saying the count is up to, possibly, 100, 000 who have died in this cyclone. Normally, on this site, after a large event, some folks will make a statement somewhere that this might be a good time to practice retrievals. I have heard that it is possible to retrieve large groups now.

It might be time for me to go practice what this site is all about.

Alan, when reading about this catastrophe I noticed that the citizens were saying that the government has not been giving out much food or water yet, although they have begun clearing some streets. Aid is not yet getting into the country. One citizen who was interviewed said that is hot.

Honestly, I don't see anything amiss with that prediction you made. I noticed it, not long ago when you wrote it. It certainly holds together for me.

What are your thoughts about this? How have you been feeling about it?

Now that I am reading that the military government is actively trying to suppress the monks from helping the people because they don't want the monks getting positive publicity (pictures of monks helping people -- oh, the thought of it, that people around the world might see monks doing what they are supposed to do).....

I can get angry about it. But, I will try to convert all my energy to love, and to do something positive.



love, b


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 8th, 2008 at 9:46am
Hello All, I have edited, not lengthened the message to make it more readable

 

"I AM" the Author and write the story of existence and creation on the fabric of eternal infinite light  
   
"I AM" the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I speak to you by my watchers above the moon.    
   
"I AM" the Painter and paint existence and creation on the fabric of infinite eternal light I  am “HE”    
   
   
I AM" the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I want you all to come together and dwell in my mind.

The white land will have rain and the land of the “tiger submerged in flood and heat………………………………………..?  

The "Watchers" your personal angelic guides are watching over the forum of humanity to bring about a group mind.

Those in the narrow black belt will be very significant……………………………………………………….?

Beings from within the universal light view planet earth, the winter of the three second man has come and into the vast void they must migrate, and the earth revert to original beauty in a future time on the horizon not far.

The end is not the end but a new dawn and the beginning of cosmic humanity.

The "Watchers" watch, the "Watchers" watch and plan the exit of Man.


We the "Initiators" inform humanity that you are creatures of a twilight zone and all you have accomplished is but a dream of your new awakening.    

Now in a new future day, in the unending succession of days you will migrate out of the void of into the “Eternal Light”

Arise and see the dawn of other earths, listen to their sounds of rain, rivers, wind, white water and seas.

We within the shimmering light the "Watchers" look at “ultimate humanity", surrounded them by a glow of our eternal light, and answered their questing with feelings of pure love.    

How beautiful are all life beings blending with the “Great Ones”. Moreover, as they did, every single unique soul began to sing in harmony “how beautiful you are Oh! God.  And blissful to love you forever”

We ‘Messengers’ remember so well our contemplation, pondering on how to best serve humanity through the ages. We then fashioned out of thought the “Sword of Flame”, to cut the souls of men free from the shackles of the wrongs of their own creation.

We come with hope from shimmering light realms beyond the universe, which is or self-chosen home. We are the “Great Eyes” roaming all planes of existence as messengers of the Divine.

He "The Great One" fashioned “PRIMEVAL THOUGHT”, for “HE” knew that there would come a time when the souls of men would require more than their own energies their  to cut themselves free from the shackles and creations into which they had weaved into the fabric of existence.    


When the Ascension of the last mortal is completed, They will become unique atoms of awarenesses completing the “GREAT OCEAN OF CONSCIOUS AWARENESS”

A journey into a far stranger countries is near.  
   
Mortal humanity will have to exit a bursting world and migrate out into the vastness of the universe.    
   
   
Through unification of all human souls on planet Earth, a new giant life form, holding a much bigger spirit within the souls of humans is going to emerge. 'The ultimate beautiful Mandala of human beings'  

Entire humanity, after the unification process with each other, you humans on Earth are going to make the main evolutionary step.


Multitude cannot exist without its oneness and oneness cannot exist without determination by multitude.  

Something of enormous significance will happen before the American spring merges with summer…………………………………………………?.  

”However, let not deception rule your hearts for truly not all is well with mortal man, babies cry mothers and the innocent die. The earth is troubled, traumatized and in travail and we agonize with all”.

"Some stand in the wildest places of the earth and form a forest of hands against the black sky, stretching up, reaching for what is theirs to take yet never to attain.

When your bodies begin to pulsate to a subliminal rhythm and feel the imminence of contained energy, soon to be released rejoice for your redemption is very near.

Sing songs of ancient names. Of those who come to you by the twelve gates to rescue you.

Invoke the helpers/initiators/watchers and the Great Eye as they come to you, they are strangers with the eyes of men."


The growth and development of a great cosmic body that is carrying in her womb the growth and development of a final soul, providing the environment and experience necessary for a gateway back to the “Source”.

This will allow any being from any species and on any frequency spectrum to incarnate learn what it truly means to be in the image of God. Loving, caring, compassionate, understanding, tolerant and so on it goes, all of the qualities that make up and constitute a human being.  A harmonious blend between the physical and spiritual.

The metamorphosis that you and your beloved planet are currently going through has already been experienced by other greater beings. These beings of composite light are not perfect and the agreement for them to incarnate at this critical stage has been granted under their request so that they may lead by example and take responsibility to right their wrongs of their past. Just like mortal man.

These more developed souls also known as Ascended Masters are not to be worshipped. Just respected and understood.  

Many claim to be masters but are not.


Standing on the bare ground, bathed by the blithe air, and uplifted into infinite space, all mean egotism vanishes.

We become a transparent and vanish.  We are nothing! “I AM” sees all; the currents of the Universal Being circulate through everything.

We all are part or parcel of God.

Moving into mystic light the evolved promoted soul, at last reaching its final incarnation and beautiful state.

Your Soul will expands to infinity” and becomes one with the Divine Composite Mind, knowing everything.    

When reaching this state of absolute, the vast horizon before you becomes limitless time, past, present. Future all merge into "ONE” and you become God, and yet at the same moment remain the minutest quantum particle, incredible and contradictory as this seems to you confined now in material bodies.  

Entire existence, the universe and all are blazing grids of soul of infinite multi colored lights spread out into infinity and glorious beauty.

Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation.

All things are possible now to your new awareness’s  

You revert to "Omega Point" again, in the eternal cycle of existence.

Then you become co-creators at the new “Alpha-point”

Reach the Ocean vast of deep understanding,  


Like a vast tide, “BEING” will have engulfed the shifting sands of being, within a now tranquil Cosmic Ocean of inter-connectedness

Like a mirror polished to give a perfect reflection of the Sun, all those apparently separate rays of consciousness would know themselves to be the same “Eternal Light”.

"Now we can at last create a New Reality"    

And our spirit moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light"  

The great wheel of existence turned to a new creation. The golden infinite Sun rose out from the limitless plane from the Alpha-point of nothingness.  

Now all things will reach zero non-dimensional nothing and only new something is now possible, indeed we are "Omega Point" again  


A new dawn in the everlasting ever-turning wheel of life, existence and creation begins to revolve by the hand of the Ultimate "One".

Shackles of learning are thrown off as all knowledge amalgamated into one unimaginable vast new Oneness of all particles containing life.  

Then there was "THOUGHT” Now together we must "THINK AGAIN" AND begin  making better than before and the light split into infinite fragments of blinding incomprehensible beauty.  

”I AM” the never resting ceaseless eternal creator I never stop creating.

“I AM" the everlasting sustainer of all things.  

"Know this all souls are eternal having no beginning and no end and expand out into eternal infinity"………………………………?

You were distributed and spread out by “countless rivers of forgetfulness” into realms, planes and dimensions of the infinite cosmos, for a purpose of progressing by learning, so that you might become Co-creators of your own realities.

Successful souls come back through “countless rivers of memories” to merge with the "Final higher Self", assimilating into the “Super-consciousness again”.  

Nothing can be destroyed or added to existence, which is the building block of creation.  

Failed souls that have done wrong will be banished for a while or converted to mindlessness and regenerated, successful souls will retain their unique awareness within the “Infinite Cosmic, Mind”.

Just. Think" do this and it is done, do that and it is done, continue this and it continues, stop and it stops, create this and it is created. Sustain and it is sustained.  

Coming back to original, "Thought” you must cross the countless rivers of memory and know all things again before new knowledge are added...  

Let us create new man. "It was the first day of order in the new creation" all old things will pass away into the darkness.

The great journey into ever better new realities must continue to progress forever.  

"GREAT FATHER SPIRIT" moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light”

The "Lord" formed us from his being and substance us in the beginning of his works, before all else, at the "Alpha Point"  

When GOD set the heavens in their place, we were there, before he made  
the earth, we were his darling children and played the creation game, in  
eternal joy with him.

We will become was his craftspeople and his companions and  
delight.

Wisdom and word is our names and we were with him before creation began  
other creation.  .  

We created everything together with mighty superstrings we weaved together  colossal  
strands of energetic light colored in beautiful magnificent  
opalescence into the very fabric of reality and a new unimaginably  
beautiful realities will be born in glory and delight.  

We sing the song of creation together as new existence began to  
vibrate with countless frequencies of light, glory translucent and  
everlasting with the vibrations of the song of creation. The singer  
sang the song, the painter the painting, the creator the creation.  


The Great Amalgamated "Soul Thought/Mused for a brief moment and "perceived" within its colossal "MIND" a new reality and said let us create existence again.

Thought came before imagination.

Imagination flowed out from thought and conceived perception.


"Thus came the first perception" which is glorious pure composite multi –dimensional colored lights.

"If something" is not "perceived' by anything it does not exist"  

"Perceptions are the building blocks of existence and creation"
   
If we are the only existing "ONE OR ONES" then we perceive ourselves or self from within our minds /thoughts.

God THE EVER EXISTING ONE" perceives everything regardless. HE alone inhabits the highest realm of existence.

Everything is in God’s imagination. Without it, nothing would exist.

When a soul finally reunites with “Source”, it retains a certain amount of its individuality yet is still in complete harmony with all other thought beings.  

The Godhead is an ever-expanding energy force and each returning spirit, having achieved that degree of fineness, breadth of thought and understanding, adds to the infinity of experience within the Godhead.

The spirit itself continues to expand into infinity complete harmony and oneness until it finally merges into such greatness that there are no words to describe it.    
   
When a soul reaches its final destination, it is immersed in this unimaginable inconceivably beautiful spectacular dimension! Iridescent rivers of sound bounded by rainbow shores of pulsating light. Thoughts appear as kaleidoscopic patterns of light and sound. You walk across fields of ideas of knowledge and understanding. Under a sparkling crystal skies of inspiration.

When you enter this final realm, do not try to rationalize or understand it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that “Great City of Revelation”    
   
All realms exist in the same space, and yet remain separate and distinct by the vibration or frequency of consciousness, forming and creating each beautiful realm. We are "everywhere" and "everywhen" at the same moment, time and space are no more. than illusions.    
   
“The tree that falls unperceived makes no sound”    
   
Danger comes from the crescent moon.    

Within the primeval moment, I awoke alone in the infinite darkness.    

I was mind and original thought and mused what I was.    
   
“I am” GOD said I in my imagination, the prime mover, the First Cause, the unmovable Rock    
   
There was nothing but "I" then in the lonely dark.    
My lonely heart cried out to the infinite night    
and I began to imagine creation and eternal companions.    
   
"Let there be light" I spoke    
And there was light in the void of everlasting darkness    
   
From my imagination, I created all things in beauty and light    
And was pleased by my mighty effort    
A new creation began again out of the chaos of the previous    
In this new creation darkness is banished forever    
   
I am first awareness    
I am mind    
I am thought    
I am imagination    
I am light    
I am everything
I am everywhen
I am everyhow
I am everywhat
I am that, this, who, why,
I am do.    
   
I imagined in my mind humanity    
creating man in my image ("imagine-man")    

I perceived my handwork and was pleased.    
the ever-repeating journey began again
 
"We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively………………….    

Creation continues ceaselessly in advancing into an infinity of realms, dimensions and strange other realities  
 
The end is nothing but a new beginning  
 
We must all go through the twelve gates  
 
Bonds of true love transcend death  

Love is the opposite of hate which the source of all fear.
 
The universe is awash with life, both good and bad.

The entire world is a theater and GOD IS THE DIRECTOR  
 
Life is a classroom  
 
"DEATH IS UNNATURAL AND NOT GODS WILL"!!  
 
The heavens declare the glory of god  
 
The stars sing mystical songs of great beauty across the vastness of the universe.  
 
GOD is the singer and the song, painter and painting, composer and music, scriptwriter and author of existence HE IS ALL IN ALL.    
   
A fiery arrow will miss its mark and many will die in fervent heat. …………………………………………..?  
 
"Out of intense complexities, intense simplicities emerge."  
 
The end of time is just another way of saying the beginning of immortality  
 
Join the transcendental eternal ego of never ending potential.  
 
Everything that can be imagined will be imagined or has been imagined by man is a reality out there in the vast somewhere.  
 
Everything that can happen will happen.  
 
Time is relative to movement, or fundamental vibration
 
 
Matter at the ultimate fundamental level is just emptiness’ and void  
 
You and everything else are subjective and relative, only God the original thought/mind is ABSOLUTE  

Though the underlying Field of the cosmos forever persists, the universes created from it, one
after another all have a beginning (Alpha) and ending (Omega) point..

When a consummated life reached in the Omega of each universal cycle to reappear as the potential intelligence of the next Alpha cycle, the essentials for such intelligence must be retained.  
 
When you know everything, it true that you are then omniscient?  
 
If no single mind at any time can contain everything known, may not countless minds, interlinked as one, contain it?  
 
Infinity is impossibility even for God who is also in an eternal cycle. The greatest number even in Gods mind is still infinitely removed from infinity.  
 
Light must separate from Dark forever very soon!  


1) God can separate himself from his creation but always, but at the same time be a separate mind, f exist within the “Super-consciousness” together with you.

2) God is not how we want him to be “He is how he is”  (but he is trying his best)

3) We can have access to the Divine mind, but on his terms and conditions

4) Every action and reaction of ours has "eternal consequences"

5) Evil is a reality, good is a reality, love is a reality and hate is a reality, truth is a reality and a lie is a reality, etc, etc, etc.

6) God is everything and everyone to all his creation

7) There is many dimensions of dark as well as many heavenly dimensions of light out in the afterlife realms.

8) The movie that is human history is almost played out

8) God is not a human concept.  

9) Humanity is a concept from Gods mind and thoughts.

The abductor will be shot and killed by the snipers bullet!!.......................................................................?

Love is the greatest emotion but it must become active, directed and focused towards the greatest need.

From Indonesia, comes the threat of the minute live/dead monsters now residing mostly in birds…………………………………?


We will come through the twelve gates of Absalom bridge to warn!

A new cycle of creation is about to begin by cosmic time measure.

Out there, the great telescope in the void has observed the Great Eye.

Worlds are already ascending into the Light and descending into eternal dark, within the material universe

The purpose of life is simple, to live it to the full, learn and not hurt others in the process.

Life is Gods greatest most beautiful blessing

Love is the eternal sustainer of life.

Love is GOD.

You are not the same person you were yesterday, or the very next moment or tomorrow and indeed into the ever changing “Now”

Time is an illusion you never actually reach any moment once you think you have reached it, it is already gone into the future

Yesterday is only a memory, tomorrow a dream and now gone before you reach it.

From the islands of Indonesia trouble and death from the little virus monster, now in the birds……………………………….?.

Love must be more than a subjective emotion, it must become active, directed and focused towards the greatest need.

You are the consolidated result and ever changing unique person, due all acts of nature together with all subjective and objective choices made before the moment of reading this quote.

You are as unique as any snowflake or lily of the field adding to the beauty of the composite existence of the “Cosmic Mind”

To have faith and deep belief in something is good, but to know it as an absolute realty and truth is the ultimate blessing in the search for meaning.

It is more blessed to give than receive.

You are a monad of differing levels of conscious awareness’s, both awake and asleep, only become fully awake when final merging with the Divine Source is achieved.


"Every exit is an entry to somewhere."

The bees of life are dying and all flesh must eat grass.

The earth is a projection of thought and thought is self-aware and interacts within itself to greater or lesser degrees


Sometimes it is necessary for darkness to descend before people can become aware of a light that has been shining all along, so the “God of Light and glory” allows this to happen

We are right next to you but also infinitely far, we come as strange thoughts just before sleep, whispers in your minds, shadows on the peripheral of your vision, smells of long forgotten realities, sounds of the oceans of existence in other dimensions and other realms of strange unknown realities.

Heat great heat as never before as trees and forests burn in diverse places.

People rage as hunger grows across the globe…………………………?

Forests even rain forests burn as never before as heat dries the earth in diverse places……………………….?

Negativity so long left to flourish, must first be eliminated, before the great change of goodness and blazing new light can come...

The great change must come from within the awareness’s and consciousness of those that love the Light

The one known, as “Evilian” shall rise but be put down by the “Glorious One”

Lean, trust, hope, believe, have faith and know the Right Rock of your preferred destiny.

The "terrible one" will be brought to nought............................?

This was not the end but only the beginning in the everlasting progression of existence, we all merged in the eternal moment singing the great song of creation. We are together now back we are God and we are we nothing now everything is possible rejoice for we are infinity eternal beautiful as we formulate a new existence more wonderful than the first.

What am I     “I AM LIFE”


Love


Any final comments if none given I  consider it complete

Love

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by blink on May 9th, 2008 at 8:19pm
To put a human face on this catastrophe, see what this place was...

http://www.pbase.com/annapagnacco/i_dreamt_of_burma

this link starts the photos, can scroll to next on upper right side, just go to the next on the ones which don't show...
http://www.pbase.com/annapagnacco/image/37310263


Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 10th, 2008 at 12:32pm
Greetings All,

Pray for Burma,

Update I hope it is not true!!

The nation's most costly natural disaster, Katrina killed more than 1,600 people ... destroyed 200,000 Gulf Coast homes ... displaced about 1 million people. News reports place insured property damage at $25.3 billion in 1.7 million insurance claims -- 975,000 of them in Louisiana.

In Myanmar, the death toll from Cyclone Nargis is expected to rise above 100,000, while hundreds of thousands more will need assistance.

Initial estimates suggest that up to one million people are currently homeless, and many more require help. The total damage is unimaginable making hurricane Katrina a mild storm by comparison.

Katrina dead 1 600

Nargis estimated dead 100 000 (it continues to rain)

CNN news,

alan

Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by betson on May 10th, 2008 at 9:07pm
Regarding your reply #44 on this thread,
Dear Alan,

I think you are not guessing, Alan. I never thought you were. (What's this 'Just another guess?" stuff ?!)
The extra emphasis on the tigers by having the preserve just open was added evidence for your revelations.
Many thanks for sharing your insights here.

Love, Bets

Also see tgeck's post in the Retrieval Forum on his recent work in Myanmar.




Title: Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Post by Alan McDougall on May 11th, 2008 at 2:27am
Bets thank you,

List of histories worst disasters by cyclone, hurricane

Tropical cyclones - Highest Death Tolls
Rank Location Date Death Toll
1. Ganges Delta, East Pakistan November 13, 1970 500,000 to 1,000,000
2. Haiphong, Vietnam 1881 300,000
3. Ganges Delta, Bangladesh October 1876 215,000
?? Myanmar disaster could become 4 th highest death toll in history
4. Bombay, India June 6, 1882 100,000
5. Calcutta, India October 5, 1864 70,000

alan

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