that at the end of life on earth one fully expects that death is the end of everything
do they see nothing? i think bruce believes so. but on the other hand genuine
mediums recieve messages from spirit who were none believers. for examlpe
a spirit of a sceptical guy came through to colin fry on his show and said to his
wife, the sitter, "you were right and i was wrong, there is an afterlife", there
are many other examples like this. or maybe the souls that would not accept
the reality of the afterlife, see nothing? it's a tough question i know.

Hi Ian,

Allen asked me to join the fun. From what I understood about the other side, you get to choose to be a "non-believer" for the lessons that being a non-believer will provide you... and if you learn those lessons...then you can do other lessons...
It is up to each soul to contract for whatever they want.
love & light,
rudi

Hello, and warmist welcome

rudinski,

i am so glad you took my advise and joined up this is a much better forum. Bets will be glad to have another gal on board

love

alan

Y'Know, Alan - what I'm waiting for is for someone to come back from the dead and announce that there is no afterlife.

;-)

d

Hi, DAVE What an enigmatic paradoxical impossibility you pose.?

regrades

alan

I think there's a difference between not believing in something and, for lack of a better phrase, actively believing against it.

I don't personnally believe there are pink unicorns at play in the world, but if I was out hiking in the wilderness and came over a hilltop to a view that included a herd of them, especially if several other people were with me, I wouldn't say "There can't be pink unicrons because I don't believe in them."  I'd think "Oops, my bad, obviously I was wrong."

I suspect non-believers in the afterlife are the same way - a lot, maybe most of them, are willing to change their minds if given sufficient proof.  A few are so invested in their own beliefs, for whatever reason, that there isn't any way to get through to them.

Wow!

What a wonderful thread !
A new member to greet!--Hello Rudenski, Welcome!   :) --
and fellow equine lover Cricket has regained her voice and is seeing pink unicorn possibilities,  :D

And Ian, Alan, and Dave are holding it all together with their views of enigmatic
paradoxical impossibilities!

What a place!  What a community!  :)

Love, Bets

Welcome Rudensky-
We're mostly harmless, except for leaving occasional puddles of ectoplasm lying around.

dave

and fellow equine lover Cricket has regained her voice and is seeing pink unicorn possibilitie

I usually just don't admit to seeing them... ;)

I'm just in the house warming my frozen fingers before I go out and fetch more firewood - I started the morning with a very feisty 2000#, 17.5h Percheron stallion, and I feel like I've been drug though a knothole.

What in the heck is it thinking, being 10 degrees on the 8th of March??

Yes, it's a difference to say sort of "Nah I don't believe it... doesn't seem so...can't figure how this would work..." that's just doubts and undecidedness.
A true believer is someone who doesn't think to believe something, but to know. I guess there are just not overly many persons who are absolutely sure about the non-existence of the afterlife, but if, then they are hard cases.
In a mind journey I once came across someone who talked to himself something like "I'm dead, there's nothing" all over again, being in a sort of sleep; I talked to him and he got upset because I  distracted him from focusing on his no-existence topic haha. So, he was one who, for whatever reason, was stuck, but wasn't that convinced of the non-existence to be totally unavailable.

Spooky