Hello All,

I have long investigated and argued the point about God as some sort of "great "Being" sitting on a throne somewhere in the heavens. If this is the case then He is separate from matter, energy and just like the rest of us can be found “somewhere”

Thus, this god would dwell like us within the confines and constraints of existence and not be the cause thereof. The theory of most scientist atheists and astrophysicists would be correct that god is a part of existence not the creator of all. Alternatively, god and creation existence are synonymous. Thus ultimate enigma remains, what is the source of all things?


The claim that God is "out there" is common to the Western monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

The Hindu belief for example does not really consider God a separate personality and after long years of contemplation, I think this is the only reasonable answer.

However, are the thing we call god just mindless existence a mathematical principle or are all life and non-life, somehow eternal and a consolidated into ‘ONE” formulating all that we see and don’t see all around us?

Of course, I do not claim to have come near to the answer to this ultimate vexing enigma but after many years of deep thought, contemplation, musing meditation and of course reading about reality I

I have on rare occasions gone into altered states of consciousness (no drugs) and took myself to what call the Omega point. Here is the true nothing state, no distance, no direction,no time, no space, no erergy or matter only mind.
Frightenely no other minds a place of unimaginable dark loneliness. So there I am Alpha point and the new cycle of existence starts.

For existence, non-existence seems to be necessary against all logic.



alan

Greetings Alan and all,

What if God, being infinite and omni-everything, realized that we could never comprehend 'Him,' and so gave us trail markers to show us our steps were on the right path?
Perhaps at one end of such a God-trail would be a white-bearded king-type,
but along the way we would encounter less anthropomorphical
God-signs ?
And they are all correct as measures of our human understanding--?
(Well, not  'all,'  but the ones we can accept-- ;D )

Bets

Bets,

I agree somewhat, considering the imperfect chaotic state of our universe it simply could not have been made by a perfect mind could it. That is why I feel the first cause the infinite or God gave the universal composite mind the tools and materials to construct our physical universe and it is just like humanity "a work in progress".

Of course, this is only speculation on my part.

alan

In Bruce's U Tube video, he mentions how difficult it was for him to perceive and interpret what a particular race of non-humans were like.

Problem of course is that we understand things in human terms.

So imagine how much more difficult (I would say impossible) for us humans to grasp what God is.

Even if someone were to somehow get a glimpse of the nature of God, chances are it would be impossible to convey via words.