I've in 100% normal consciousness of late been getting short snatches of voices. Not quite even snatches, more like shouts aimed at getting my attention but which get clipped off after a second or so. This is in 100% normal waking consciousness, there's no associated 'feeling' I detect, and it's not heard by others in the area.

From the little I've read this happens, and may imply attempts at communication but I don't really know what's going down.  ;) I could be losing it!

Does anybody have any more experience of this sort of thing, or any ideas on how best to respond to it?? It would only seem polite to respond by trying help establish communication...

Yep, in the beginning I thought I was losing it too.  Can you tell what's being said?  Is it saying your name?  I would suggest next time it happens, try just calmly paying attention as if listening and waiting to hear the next thing.  If nothing else comes, you can think back something like, "if you want to communicate, you need to speak so I can understand you", or something to that effect.  

Vajra;

This is in 100% normal waking consciousness you said; it happens to myself also but while I'm meditating not normal consciousness.
Sometimes it so clear it's like someone yelling at me.. few times saying "are you there" to the point of bigging me back to C1.
Definetely someone trying to contact you. I'll have to practice to listen/pay attention more carefully.

Much love;Romain

  Like mediation, this is a very big and rather shades of gray topic.   There are different reasonings and perspectives here.  

 I don't know what's going on in your specific case, so i won't speak on that.  I can outline some different explanations for this though.  

 What is clear, is that you are becoming more sensitized and receptive to subtle energies and influences.  

 What's not clear to me, is why and how this is coming about.    Anyways, as one approaches nearer and nearer to the infinite within self, through remembering and transmuting into PUL, as one meditates consistently in order to allow self to be filled by that, one tends to become more open and sensitized to many varying levels, consciousnesses, and vibratory ranges both within and seemingly without self.  

  Thus, one may start to experience the hearing of voices, the seeing of nonphysical energies, more precog. dreams or knowings, etc.  One starts to become a "Seer" in the positive sense.  This "cause" is the ideal situation and condition.


  But there are other possible explanations.   The endocrine glandular system in humanity is that "interface" between what some call the "physical" and the "nonphysical" or spiritual and the translation and interaction between same.     These mirror each other, or as above so below.  

 The 7 main endocrine glands, are a densification, a projection of the more subtle energy centers known to the East as Chakras.    

  These are similar to, and yet different than the actual Energy centers, just as physical is a pattern of, but not the same exact vibratory range or level of that which it is reflecting to begin with.    

 The endocrine system is in a constant state of flux, of imbalance in most, yet seeking ever to be balanced and merged like the White Light is a merging of all the 7 main colors, and whence these come from.  

  These are particularly related to our emotional natures and patterns in the holistic sense, because the physical itself, as a human being, is primarily an emotional experience and consciousness level within the greater whole.  

   The body can become so out of whack, either through nerve impingements in the spinal nerve system, really consistently destructive diet and severe acid-alkaline imbalance, or through a great mental or emotional strain, as to really throw off the balance of the endocrine system.  

 This can facilitate temporary psychic sensitivities and experiences.   These are rather more purely an indication of imbalance within the body, which is seeming to have a "mental" and psychic affect.

  Thus, not everyone who is very psychically sensitive, is spiritually mature, loving, and intune, though many spiritually mature and intune people are more psychically sensitive than the average.  

  Subtle difference, but there nonetheless and an important one.  

  Hormones are directly related to the endocrine glandular system, in a more material sense.     Strong imbalance in these, and in one's hormones, will lead to an over activation or under activation of certain glands, which more purely relate to psychic "sensing" than other glands.  For example, the cells of the Leydig, the thyroid and parathyroid, and the pineal are primarily related to what we label "psychic sensitivity" or rather more receptive and receiving centers.  

 An example.   Ever notice that the phenomena of what some call Poltergeist activity, seems to have more often when there is a teenager in the house!?  

  Why, because during puberty, many teens glandular systems are really out of whack and imbalanced, and certain glands become temporarily over emphasized and others become too passive.   Depending, this can lead to a person having a very powerful "nonphysical" affect on what we call physical energies, but usually in an unconscious sense.    They very rarely are aware of this affect they are having, and most usually chalk it up to a "neg" type stuck consciousness.  

 Now, these can and often are attracted to such conditions, but that is a whole nother subject.  But usually, it is the physically incarnate person who is having the powerful psychical influence on even matter.  

   This latter type of psychic experience and awareness, shouldn't be dwelt too much on, because it stems more from imbalance than anything.  

 Too much meditation without proper grounding in the spiritual life, can also temporarily throw off the balance of the endocrine system.   Certain drugs and chemicals can as well.

 There can be numerous factors in this complicated interaction and interconnection of physical to spiritual.  

 Btw, i'm speaking from experience on both accounts, via body imbalance, and through attuning more to the infinite.   I experience the latter as more inner intuition and knowingness, and the former more through physical sense based or oriented experiences on average (not black and white by any means, and sometimes these over lap to some extent).    I had the voice thing happen to me as well, and very similar to what you described.  

  For me, i decided to not concentrate on this, and let it go since it wasn't particularly helpful to me or to others.  

 Creative, balanced, and more free sources tend to reach and communicate more with us via our inner intuition which is accompanied by a merging of feeling to thought, kind of a Hemi-sync like state and experience, and less free and/or less constructive sources tend to try to communicate with us more  through our senses.   Not always, but as a tendency.  Sometimes if we don't listen well enough in a more inner way, the constructive and Creative sources will temporarily resort to more sensory based communication to first get our attention.  



   

Thank you guys, very helpful. Your points about the endocrine system are well made and apt in my case Justin given that I've had so much thyroid trouble over the years. Having no thyroid now I'm dependent on replacement hormone, and while my dosage is stable and I feel very well on it I'm sure it's a fairly crude approximation to what natural control was - one of the hormones I take has only a 4hr half life, so blood values must oscillate quite a lot.

It's actually something I've wondered about at times - whether or not this situation was possibly connected with the way I seem to get lots of experience of light and so on while meditating, but struggle with visualisation. Also the way lucid dreaming and the like seem to come and go - I get a few weeks where it's spontaneous and works really well, and can then go for months almost completely unable to drop into the 'zone'. My communication while quite active tends to be as you say more about synchronistic events, intuitive knowings and the like.

I'd make no claims to being any distance down the road on spiritual development anyway...

wrote on Feb 24^th, 2008 at 7:50am:

I'd make no claims to being any distance down the road on spiritual development anyway...

 You strike me as an older Soul type.   The voice thing could be a mix of factors in your case, again since i don't fully know i don't feel comfortable in addressing your specific case.  

 Anyways, it seems like you are attuning a lot lately to that Consciousness, that vibratory range of energy of which the Planet Neptune symbolizes.    A very beautiful expression, which in and of itself is a fairly fast vibratory range.   Most tend to use it it more positively than not as well.

 The Neptune Consciousness is color wise, in and of itself, is a very beautiful, bright, but somewhat lightish bluish violet type shade.    We as individuals attuning to same, may use it at somewhat different rates and shades as relatively compared to that, but oft it is closer than not.  

Hi vajra,romain,vicky and justin  I  had spirit whispering in my ear about 2 weeks after my dad died and that was nearly 7 yrs ago,i couldnt understand what spirit were saying to me as the voices were whispering very fast,so this medium told me next time spirit do this to tell them to whisper slower so i can understand what they are saying.It was a great experience,cant wait for the next time.

Love and God bless     love juditha

Yeah - what Justin said.

I get it too, but never am quite able to sort out the words.

dave

No one here can assess properly your situation. Just trying to be practical............

1) record that moment and then listen the tape with slower speed a) normally and b) backwards. Some people told that they listen voices when they leave a recorder in a empty room.Your presence is not necessary for the voices to be there. I do not have experience on that field. Good luck! :o
2) it could be whatever it was said before ::)
3) Please, BE alert but do not start finding sounds that do not exist (because has to be something out there). You know what I mean , right? ::)

:) I'm as above probably losing it, but thanks!

Vajra old fellow,

You are not losing it, nearly all sensitive (and you are one) hear voices in different ways. Examples of audible voices I have heard were. “Alan McDougall Africa is dead” another “Nobody wants me” another “I am Angelus Mira and I am only a spectator” Of course to this day could not make sense of these apparent messages. I have had many more over the years.

My advise if you hear voices again try your best to make out what they are saying and write it down as it might have meaning in the future.

alan

Hi vajra,

These voices are potentially no different than any thoughts/doubts/inspirations/attacks which come from 'outside' - just a different vibrational level. Attention is a factor, but also sometimes different chakra activity varies/adjusts/opens/closes, allowing more or less available content of different dimensions to to 'come in' - especially if you are increasingly engaged in some type of energy work.

I wouldn't pay any more, or any less attention to this than the Real in you already does to any other available cognition, excepting of course if the source of these voices is the Real in you - then of course, pay all attention.


- u

That makes sense Ultra - it's about what frequency the receiver is tuned to I guess.

:D Had a great laugh at my own expense tonight. Parked my car, and got out of it it only to start hearing voices. Had a little moment of gee, maybe I'm getting past just snatches of sound. Started checking around in case it was coming from somebody physical i couldn't see.

::) Then I realised I'd accidentally had my mobile phone call somebody having left it unlocked in my pocket.....

Vajra,

I'll focus on the mysterious phenomenon of EVPs.  I have recently learned that these voices can often be very inspirational, but can at other times be potentially dangeous.  I have told the story of 2 Italian priests in the 1950s who were trying to perfect the clarity of Gregorian chant on a tape recorder.  Their frustration grew as the tape kept breaking.  One of the priests jokingly asked his deceased father for help.  When he finally replayed the tape, his father's voice was now on the tape, saying, "Of course, I'll help you.  I'm always watching out for you."  The priests were so excited that they gained an audience with Pope Pius XII and played the tape for him.  His reaction was positive: he speculated that such EVP reseach just might be the proper way to prove the survival of the soul!  

On the other hand, a few weeks ago, I watched a TV show on a woman's EVPs investigated by Penn State parapsychologists.  She was constantly upgrading her ability to attract EVPs to her recorder.  But the investigators eventually concluded that she was paying too heavy a price for her success.  The taped spirit was using her EVP focus to gain more and more control of her mind and she was being harmfully oppressed, though not yet possessed.  She was sternly warned that, in her case, EVP research was dangerous.  For reasons we don't understand EVP research seems capable at times of attracting the same troublesome spirits that often manifest through a Ouija board.  I wonder how often the EVPs stem from spirit impersonators bent on mischief and manipulation.  

Stll, the best EVP research (e. g. by George Mueller with Spiricom) is so impressive in verifiable details that the occasional dangers should not deter further research.

Don

Don,

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Vajra, I'll focus on the mysterious phenomenon of EVPs.  I have recently learned that these voices can often be very inspirational

Yes, they can be inspirational, but they are mostly ambiguous vague nebulous dark and even evil

alan

I was awakened by a voice just this morning that I am sure was my wife,who died over 3 years ago.I wounder if she needs help.She could be earth bound or stuck here on earth.George