Hello All,

Last night I had a terrifying vision relating to God and his perspective on us”-

1) God is a separate mind, we are his creations
2) God is not how we want him to be He is how he is
3) We can have access to the Divine mind but on his terms and conditions
4) Every action and reaction of ours have eternal consequences
5) Evil is a reality
6) God Is not some sort of an all forgiving white haired granddaddy but has two sides to his character, yes love but also justice.
7) There is many dimensions of hell as well as many heavenly dimensions
8) The movie that is human history is almost played out
8) God is not a human concept.

Many many more for those interested

It was frightening how little we understand this infinite BEING

Love

alan

Sounds remarkably like my Dad.

d

I am always open to new posts, takes, and opinions but this God does not sound like what anyone believes in. This God sounds like the type of God that would do this to a person:

Yes... I am GOD. I am real.

Now if you truly believe in me and wish to continue to exist you must be willing to DROWN underwater.

If you agree I will send you to your horrible death by drowning and then you will live forever.

If you disagree I will end your existence now.

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This is a very cruel God in my opinion.

Greetings,

I'd be interested in hearing more.

Thanks, Bets

Terethian
God is God, Don’t you want to be a free agent able to advance in life or controlled within the absolute.

Dave God is indeed a Father but as remote from 1 is to infinity from your earthly dad as he must be.

After all we are much nearer to the ameba or virus who like us are finite, than God the infinite

God can relate and come down to our very finite level of understanding, but we his finite creations, never, the finite can never comprehend the infinite

alan

Alan, I need to hear more too. You didn't really describe a vision here, but more of a conclusion. If it was a vision, what did you see? Why was it terrifying? Why was it frightening? Details, please.

love, blink :)

 Hi Alan,

 Seems that you described or listed attributes of what i call the impersonal aspect of the Creator.   Maybe there is another aspect, one we could call the personal God?   This is the Logos, the creational Light of this Universe, the "Disk" who who having been created by The Source/Creator (what Dave calls the uncaused cause- a term i like) co-created this Universe and some of the Disks who inhabit it.  

Bruce calls this Consciousness/Disk--the Planning Intelligence.   And it cares so much about us, and works on behalf of The Source to help Retrieve us all to Home.  Yes, the active personal God that we may eventually become like ourselves.  

 Someday, you, i and others here will wake up from this temporary dream,  begin the real work, and we will be co-creators of other Universes and Souls to inhabit them.  

 Pretty Awesome eh?

Hi Alan,
community members,
:)
Alan,
I appreciate your interests and concerns as these are certainly issues that any truth seeker and/or God lover (depending on one's temperament) would naturally be interested in.

I've provided a link to a book that was written by a source I reference quite often - perhaps not as much as Justin uses Cayce and not as much as Don uses the Bible, but I wish to ask for some latitude in this regard. You see, as has been pointed out to me much in the same way that you yourself have been deemed way too 'post-y', therefore no time to '...s...a...v...o...r...' -- evidently I have made a comparative shamefully too few posts according to a VIP here (I ask you - is there no way to please everyone?), and as such I have not been able to accumulate the sheer mind-numbing quantity of repeated singular, identical references that ultimately must confer spiritual gravitas and numerically based pride.

Pursuant to that dismal failure on my part, I also need to qualify the self-evident (at least I thought so before, is this a deja vue?) notion that people use whatever sources have meaning and authority for them. This is a personal and subjective evaluation. It doesn't necessarily mean they are 'promoting', whether themselves, someone or something else. I like to quote or refer to sources I feel have authenticity for me, and I feel that in my case, it is often better to let a spiritual Master who I feel is God-realized do the talking - especially when there is an accurate, unmediated, contemporary record -  regarding subjects that for me at least, remain highly subjective and speculative no matter how adamantly I might posture those speculations (allow me to make the analogy of  4 year olds vehemently arguing over what sex or neurosurgery must be like). Perhaps this is my naivete. I am therefore begging forgiveness from the forum's representative inner circle of spritual tough love and intellectual manliness!  For the philosophically inclined I'll be the first to point out that even my evaluation of these sources as God-realized is subjective and speculative. Ok people?  

So I offer this book, which in a rather striking way directly addresses point for point, all of the issues in your above list Alan.

Apparently, the author said that this particular book, one of his own favorites would be one that would be read far into the future. It is a personal favorite of mine as well. It is interesting to note that with the publishing date of 1973, it makes this perhaps the first contemporary 'conversations with God' type book.

I hope that people find something of value in it.

"My Lord's Secrets Revealed"
http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/books/0008/


Best regards,
:)
- u

Lea,

Your humor and tolerance is commendable

Lea Quoted

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(I ask you - is there no way to please everyone?), and as such I have not been able to accumulate the sheer mind-numbing quantity of repeated singular, identical references that ultimately must confer spiritual gravitas and numerically based pride 8) God is not a human concept. I might posture those speculations (allow me to make the analogy of  4 year olds vehemently arguing over what sex or neurosurgery must be like). I'll be the first to point out that even my evaluation of these sources as God-realized is subjective and speculative.2) God is not how we want him to be He is how he is

Alan

Terethian,

Your Quote makes no sense


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Yes... I am GOD. I am real.   Now if you truly believe in me and wish to continue to exist you must be willing to DROWN underwater.   If you agree I will send you to your horrible death by drowning and then you will live forever. If you disagree I will end your existence now. ----------------------------------------------- This is a very cruel God in my opinion

alan



2) God is not how we want him to be He is how he is


1) God is a separate mind, we are his creations
 

Someday, you, i and others here will wake up from this temporary dream,  begin the real work, and we will be co-creators of other Universe
 Pretty Awesome eh?

s and Souls to inhabit them.

Yes absolutely God is love so he must be personal  


Blinks Quote


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Alan, I need to hear more too. You didn't really describe a vision here, but more of a conclusion. If it was a vision, what did you see? Why was it terrifying? Why was it frightening? Details, please. love, blink

Yes Blink is was very terrifying and I will attempt to describe it later if more interest is shown to this thread

Love

alan

What I said makes sense if you think about it. The type of God you mentioned sounds terrible yet   forgiving. A God telling you that you must DIE for him in a terrible way that scares you in order to  gain acceptance sounds right up the alley with what you are saying.

Also note, some people out of all of the people in this world would be too scared to drown for God. Even if God said it would be ok. Then this ruthless god would smite them and they would cease to exist.

Understand yet?

Terethian


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What I said makes sense if you think about it. The type of God you mentioned sounds terrible yet   forgiving. A God telling you that you must DIE for him in a terrible way that scares you in order to  gain acceptance sounds right up the alley with what you are saying. Also note, some people out of all of the people in this world would be too scared to drown for God. Even if God said it would be ok. Then this ruthless god would smite them and they would cease to exist. Understand yet

NO

Alan

:o Alan, could it be that you are referring to God as being "All there is"? Collectively speaking?
You and I are back to square one. ;)
Hugs,
Nanner

ultra wrote on Feb 16^th, 2008 at 2:53pm:

I've provided a link to a book that was written by a source I reference quite often - perhaps not as much as Justin uses Cayce and not as much as Don uses the Bible,...

 Why would you even say this at all to begin with, what's the point?

Hi alan I always thought of God as forgiving of what we do as long as we feel remorse for the hurt we caused to another human being,or anything on earth,but some on this earth dont know the first thing on this earth about remorse so i wold say what is said in the bible"What thou reaps,thou sows"Evil begets evil,Good begets Good,Light is stronger than darkness.

Love and God bless      love juditha

Hi Alan -

No argument from me.

The only reason I use symbols and figures is personal. They communicate well to others like me, and sometimes it's a fun pastime to tinker. But the symbols are not the reality that they seek to discuss. - as you are evidently well aware.

dave

Greetings,

The list all together sounds like a reminder that we can never know our Infinite
God with our finite minds. God has so many capacities/powers that to take one and apply it to every situation may be an error on our part.

:D  I'm going to agree with my conclusion on that.

Bets