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Message started by marsu on Jan 30th, 2008 at 6:27am

Title: A description of the afterlife
Post by marsu on Jan 30th, 2008 at 6:27am
Hello, all! I just happened to run into this story as I was searching on the Internet (which I am constantly doing). This story is said to have been told by spirits/spiritual guides, and gathered together by some people dealing with EVP. Now, what are your opinions about it? To me, it sounds a bit like "What Dreams May Come". And yes, I do wish it were true...

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Spirit World: The Ghost In the Machine
By Tim Haigh

Below is a summary of reports received, via computer and telephone, which she gave describing the world in which she lived.


"We live in a world that is similar to your world. We have a body like yours. This body is an etheric substance of much higher vibration than your dense body in your dense material world. No diseases exist here. Missing body limbs grow again. Bodies that were amputated on earth will here be regenerated. We live in comfortably furnished homes. The surrounding landscapes are impressive and beautiful. The average age of all those who passed over to us becomes 25 to 30 years. If they died in old age they awaken here in full consciousness after a regenerating sleep which lasts about six weeks of earth time. In some cases it can be shorter. The children arriving on the third level are lovingly accepted and cared for by their relatives who live here. The children continue growing up until they have reached the age of 25 to 30 years. Approximately 60 billion humanoids from all existing worlds congregate here. They continue to cultivate friendships and partnerships.



We eat and drink like you do, but our food is produced synthetically. To put it another way, we materialize physical food. The meat which some still enjoy here is only a reproduction of matter. No animal has to die for another being. Many animal species exist here which are unknown on earth, such as birds of paradise and colorful butterflies. The temperature is very mild. Personality and character are not changed by the process of dying. You do not wake up on the third plane with new knowledge. Though there is no more physical pain here, we still know mental anguish and the pain of the soul. The third human level is on a planet we call Marduk which is separated from earth by time and space and cannot be spatially located. It has three suns. The planet revolves around one sun and is illuminated by the others. It never gets totally dark.



Its moon is larger than the earth moon. A single large river, the River of Eternity, crosses the entire planet. The third human plane is a product of the human mind, but is as much a reality as earth itself. People with the same ideas and views come together in groups and form units which become the preliminary step to the fourth plane. After coming into the fourth plane, the person is freed from the law of reincarnation.



To establish these contacts with you, we have to get close to your physical world and adjust to you as well as we can. A number of the communicators including Salter, Raudive and Juergenson among others, do not reside, it seems, on the third astral level, but on the fourth, or upper astral level. They 'come down' to level three to transmit messages when allowed."


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Title: Some more background?
Post by marsu on Jan 30th, 2008 at 6:33am
Spirit World: The Ghost In the Machine
By Tim Haigh

Maggy Harsch-Fishbach began experimenting with EVP in 1984. Although her husband Jules was initially skeptical of the phenomenon, she gained such positive results that he became convinced the other worldly voices were genuine. For the first year and a half, their results were typical of what other EVP experimenters obtain, but in 1986 they received a message that was to change significantly the way they worked. The Harsch-Fishbachs were told by spirit communicators on a radio link dubbed the Eurosignal Bridge to tune their TV set to an inactive channel and disconnect the aerial. Setting up a video camera two meters away from the set, they began recording.

 "We noticed several flashing images on the TV screen," recalls Maggie, "but these were of such short duration that no details could be discerned. The recording lasted 10 minutes. The tape was replayed in very slow motion and within a few frames an image of a man appeared who was well known to us from previous audio communications." Through the Eurosignal Bridge, the man told them that a research group was being formed on the Other Side and that they must do likewise on earth.

 So on October 16, 1986, the Harsch-Fishbachs founded the Luxembourg Study Circle in Transcommunication - CETL - and soon after, an entity calling himself "Technician" made contact and began coordinating activities. He would tell the couple when a message was going to be transmitted or an image was due to appear, so everything could be recorded. Uniquely, the Harsch-Fishbachs were able to conduct two-way conversations with their new-found spirit friends. (This system, still in use today, can only be used effectively when less than four people are present. When larger groups are in the recording room, the Harsch-Fishbachs use the Eurosignal Bridge, what they call "a personal paging system" operating on the FM waveband. This second method allows the spirit world to communicate, but not for anybody on earth to respond).

 In 1988, Technician informed the couple that they had been selected as the earthbound colleagues of "Timestream," which was the collective name for the group of spirit beings banded together specifically to strengthen and develop the link that had been achieved between their world - the third astral level - and earth. As the link became established, so the communications increased not only via the Eurosignal Bridge and on TV, but also on a computer, where text and images would appear overnight in special files.

 Well-known English author and traveler Richard Francis Burton (1821- 90) joined the spirit team and transmitted long descriptions of his journeys through the astral planes, especially along what he called the River of Eternity. EVP pioneers Friedrich Juergenson and Konstantin Raudive "returned home" to confirm they were helping to develop ITC technology, and a female communicator calling herself Swejen Salter introduced herself.

 In the years that followed, Salter effectively took over Technician's role as spirit-side project leader and formed a warm relationship with the Harsch-Fishbachs. Below is a summary of reports received, via computer and telephone, which she gave describing the world in which she lived.




Title: Re: A description of the afterlife
Post by Nanner on Jan 30th, 2008 at 6:45am
Hi Marsu,
thanks for this thread. It sounds to me - as if many many people - including Bruce from this website here, Peter from the jenseits-de.com site and many other good people are coming u with the "very same thing" simply using different wording for their experiences. Thank you for this one too - as I will check it out for sure.
Hugs,
Nanner

Title: Re: A description of the afterlife
Post by Nanner on Jan 30th, 2008 at 7:09am
Very interesting: Your thread ended up taking me to http://www.worlditc.org/ while researching. Thanks - Nanner

Title: Re: A description of the afterlife
Post by Nanner on Jan 30th, 2008 at 8:15am
Marsu.. following your thread, which took me to the link I posted above, I found this as an example of one of their contacts: (it was sent to them per computer)

The letter mentioned three incidents from their life together. HOWEVER ONE IMPORTANT DETAIL FOR ME PERSONALLY!

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THARLEQUINNOVELS/THIRDSTORY;JOHNLATHRON(IDON'TTHINKMAGGIEANDJULES  
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THEBULBITSELFPLUSTAX(THESCOUNDREL)/SOTRYTOEXPLAINTHIS,HONEY/MYNEV
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I HAVE BIG WORK TO DO HERE...
Remember in one of my other threads: I said my Dad told me in a lucid dream:  "We are working over here"...  :o
                                   
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