Here's something that might be fun - I'm wondering if some of you more experienced in communicating with those who have passed on might be interested (or perhaps have already done so) in seeing if we can find out what some of our beloved rock and roll musicians are up to since they have passed on.

Specifically, if there is an opportunity in the afterlife to make music together, are they holding concerts, formal or informal, and can anyone be a part of the experience just like on earth - such as how we attend concerts her on earth, etc. What are the "settings" for these concerts?

Here are a sampling of some greats I often wonder about (in no particular order):

Keith Moon
John Entwistle
John Bonham
Jerry Garcia
Jimi Hendrix
John Lennon
George Harrison
Syd Barrett
Mark Bolan
Miles Davis
Jeff Buckley
Pete Farndon
James Honeyman-Scott
Ronnie Lane
Jim Morrison
Roy Oribson
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Frank Zappa
Kurt Cobain

Thanks!  :)

Elvis regularly performs at the equivalent of the Tropicana Hotel in the Vegas section of Focus 27.  He's still good.  But is it just me?  Or does "It Ain't Nothing but a Hounddog" seem to lose something when played with Heaven's harps?   :D  

Don

the "vegas" section of the afterlife?? for real??  :o

funny, i was just wondering today if dead rock stars were making rock music (or any kind of music at all) in heaven.  i'm very curious about it.  and because music in heaven would encompass so much more awesomeness, wouldn't their version of a rock song completely out-do an earthly version, even if the same notes were used?  

Hi Bird  well u do give me some ideas for exploring. this might be good in the partnered exploration thread.

I don't know very well those artists, I mean I haven't thought much about them, John Lennon and Jim Morrison I remember their songs and who can forget Jimi Hendrix?

I think the stronger the emotional bond is the better chance of a genuine hit there would be, speaking personally. so if I ever manage to connect with one of them, it would have to be maybe Janis Choplin as I am more curious about her than the others, and curiosity would have to be a factor I think.

right now I'm falling asleep at the computer though...hope to see you back here though, thanks for the idea!

reminds me of this tune..you ready?
.."if there's a rock and roll heaven, you know they got a helluva band! :)

oh wait..he...tanya tucker...when I die, I may not go to heaven, I don't know that they let cowgirls in, if they don't just send me on to Texas, Texas is as close as I been..

Speaking from the point of view of a rock musician, I have often wondered this myself if the greats who have passed on to the other side and if they are still jamming out tunes. I think it would be cool to be able to still rock out on the other side. Sometimes I wondered if some of the greats formed super groups together. I can think of another great musician I wonder about, Dimebag Darrell aka Darrell Lance Abbott who was shot onstage on December 8, 2004. His playing has influenced most of the bands that I listen to and take influence from in my own playing today. For that matter, how many musicians want to jam with some of these great musicians and how busy their schedules are. For that matter, what kinds of sounds could we get out of our instruments on the other side that would be impossible to pull off on Earth.
-David

yes - dimebag darrell is a definite add to the list!! i know there are important others that i've missed.

would you need to actually be in contact with the musician? or would it be good enough to reach out to someone who's just passionate about  music in the afterlife and can give us the lowdown on what the "scene" is like?

bird-

I think there is potentially great news on the horizon!  Bruce is working on a device that will enable us to call folks in the afterlife.  It will work almost like the phones we now use to call our friends.

So that means that yes, we can actually be in contact with our favorite deceased rock and roll stars!  Personally I'm looking forward to hearing Patsy Cline sing her hit song "Crazy."  What a thrill that will be!

My only fear is that from what I've heard on the grapevine (as Marvin Gaye used to sing), Patsy might have already reincarnated into LeAnn Rimes.  

All the more reason to hope that Bruce brings this device to the market as soon as humanly possible (aside from Ed Carter of course).

the reincarnation factor definitely confuses matters, but i think i had asked that question before in a different context, and what i was told is that a soul will leave a "sheath" of themself behind that we would not find misleading. it's hard to understand because that would imply that there are sheaths of all my previous incarnations in the afterlife. i'm probably not fulling grasping the concept. i had asked the question because i was wondering if my mother (who passed in '96) would still be around to greet me once i pass even if she has reincarnated.

bird - yes that's a confusing concept.  my understanding of it is that we leave some of our energy in heaven all the time while we reincarnate, so we exist in 2 places basically...  i don't really understand it.  

reincarnation seems to support the idea of rocking out in heaven to me, because people often reincarnate with the same interest.  for example in one book a lady who loved certain show tunes reincarnated, and the child she reincarnated as loved the same songs.  to me this says maybe there is an abiding interest even when we die in particular arts.  if it's true, i'll be jamming out with all of you i'm sure!  

Sheave is an interesting concept. yes I think there are two of me. I tried to express this concept in my book as my future self. or we could call it the unlimited self, who expresses unlimited possibility, while my ego over here is saying, no I can't go there because I don't think I'm ready...etc....fill in the blank with sentences that start with "I can't....u get the picture of limited mind versus unlimited mind.

certainly there are all levels of music operating in the universe. I think the music is the love inside of us all. you really can't keep it inside.

its also possible that this other self, future self she would be merging with god, while I am the shieve which continues it's evolvement. for this conception, you have to see all of us as ONE mind, fragmented into individuals, nonetheless a part of All That Is and a part of each other, or at the least effecting of each other's consciousness.

one thing I learned here on this board, the mind is a very creative instrument for our essence or spirit's awareness. we essentially create our own afterlife situation by which group we are in, as like attracts like. but we do it together, we are in process this very moment creating our future, as well our own inner habitat of consciousness will lead us to our afterlife station.

I intend to dance and sing when I get home barring that I owe nobody further karma. love, alysia

Newton says we always leave part of our energy behind when we incarnate.  So in effect, there really is more than just one  of us.  And if you believe Jane Roberts, there are many more of us than just two.

That raises a possible problem for Bruce's phone device to the afterlife.  If I want to call my mom, how will I know which version of her I'm talking with?

Maybe Bruce has a way of assigning phone numbers to all versions of our existence.  I sure hope so.

I got it from a good source than John Coltraine reincarnated as Kenny G.    :)

recoverer-

Well, that means we don't need Bruce's device to contact John Coltraine.   :)   We can just use the regular phone system and chat with Kenny G!

Maybe there's a directory in the afterlife that will tell us who's still there and who's returned here.  Otherwise we'll be getting lots of unanswered calls.  

Hopefully there will be an afterlife forwarding device (AFD) in case the person we're trying to reach has already been reincarnated!

recoverer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2007 at 1:48pm:

I got it from a good source than John Coltraine reincarnated as Kenny G.    :)

please tell me it ain't so!!!!!  :o

rondele wrote on Nov 13^th, 2007 at 2:12pm:

Hopefully there will be an afterlife forwarding device (AFD) in case the person we're trying to reach has already been reincarnated!

actually if they had enough energy left in heaven, you could talk to their past "personality," because souls are the full collection of all their personalities and can be any one at any time, which is why when people see spirits of their dead relatives they can look, talk and act the same as they did on earth...

the_seeker wrote on Nov 13^th, 2007 at 5:42pm:

rondele wrote on Nov 13th, 2007 at 2:12pm: Hopefully there will be an afterlife forwarding device (AFD) in case the person we're trying to reach has already been reincarnated! actually if they had enough energy left in heaven, you could talk to their past "personality," because souls are the full collection of all their personalities and can be any one at any time, which is why when people see spirits of their dead relatives they can look, talk and act the same as they did on earth...

so at what point after someone passes do they realize that their soul embodies all lifetimes and that they can transform themselves into any one of those personalities? is it a skill that has to be learned?

this goes back to that discussion about losing "yourself" when you die. it is comforting for me as a human to think that i will still be "me" in the afterlife, but obviously disconcerting to think that not only will i be me, but every other version of me too!

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so at what point after someone passes do they realize that their soul embodies all lifetimes and that they can transform themselves into any one of those personalities? is it a skill that has to be learned?

i don't know, but i would guess almost instantly in earth time terms, because how else could a spirit visit in their last body's form, knowing fully well that that body is dead and decayed?  


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this goes back to that discussion about losing "yourself" when you die. it is comforting for me as a human to think that i will still be "me" in the afterlife, but obviously disconcerting to think that not only will i be me, but every other version of me too!

yeah i know what you mean.  however when you consider that we already ARE our soul....  just "trapped" in a physical body... then the fact that we've lived past lives isn't as big of a deal.  i'm curious about how much of our earthly personality is our soul and how much is just our body/history from this particular life.  

Bird? :-?  And Charlie Parker has reincarnated as Dave Koz, and Lester Young as Najee.


bird wrote on Nov 13^th, 2007 at 3:00pm:

recoverer wrote on Nov 13th, 2007 at 1:48pm: I got it from a good source than John Coltraine reincarnated as Kenny G.    :) please tell me it ain't so!!!!!  :o

I'm a blues musician and always have a tune running in my mind, and even when I'm mind journeying (TMI/Bruce's style) often I keep humming out there, too. Depending in what state you are over there, in the earth-like places most probably there are earth-like musicians. Now, I'm one of those who almost "hear" the music that is to play or to be sung, so when in a more fluid, airy place/state of meditation, I can directly "produce" music without any instrument, just by thought. It's obvious that this changes the style of the music, when, depending on the skills of imagination, one person could produce the sound of a whole orchestra.

Never heard of Kenny G. so I looked him up on youtube, whoa! If that's progress, I wanna live forever in the good ol days!!

Spooky

so at what point after someone passes do they realize that their soul embodies all lifetimes and that they can transform themselves into any one of those personalities? is it a skill that has to be learned?

I suspect it may be somewhat like what we do here in different circumstances - sometimes I'm my kid's mom, and I'm the "one in charge" - other times I'm the farrier, other times the sympathetic friend, when John was alive I was the wife and lover...sometimes I have to do a flashback to the old days when I hung around in some scary places, and revert to the "I'll tear out your kidneys and feed them to my cat" persona, to get safely home again.  All those people are "me", but someone who'd only met me "back in the day" would be very surprised at my behavior if I accompany someone to church, say.

I can swap between those "people" at will,  but some of them would definitely not be welcome where some others dwell (and angels fear to tread... ;) )

Cricket wrote on Nov 17^th, 2007 at 9:45am:

so at what point after someone passes do they realize that their soul embodies all lifetimes and that they can transform themselves into any one of those personalities? is it a skill that has to be learned? I suspect it may be somewhat like what we do here in different circumstances - sometimes I'm my kid's mom, and I'm the "one in charge" - other times I'm the farrier, other times the sympathetic friend, when John was alive I was the wife and lover...sometimes I have to do a flashback to the old days when I hung around in some scary places, and revert to the "I'll tear out your kidneys and feed them to my cat" persona, to get safely home again.  All those people are "me", but someone who'd only met me "back in the day" would be very surprised at my behavior if I accompany someone to church, say. I can swap between those "people" at will,  but some of them would definitely not be welcome where some others dwell (and angels fear to tread... ;) )

good points Cricket, how we can change roles here. it's like when my mother got older, I became her mother, in that role, I had to supply the disapline for common sense, that a mother employs to a child.

those of us that go into stage work as actresses and actors reflect the many roles we can play successfully, who knows but that we are calling on past resources in order to play the villain or the hero in the best way.
we switch genders, we trade places, our children become our parents, it all looks chaotic just until we get a higher viewpoint of why we came here and it's usually because we wanted the adventure and growth into the discovery of who and what we really are..and we had to forget in order to remember.

thanks for the post, you do good work. love, alysia