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Message started by LaffingRain on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 11:42am

Title: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 11:42am
All my wisdoms in a nutshell

If I was a man I wouldn’t have a bra and a potato chip would not fall down there...

women share confidences, men share conquests

love is being willing to love

men like men because they are allowed to fart in the same room with each other

the only way to get somewhere is to leave expectations behind and start walking

love is counting up the ways u love someone and remembering this when you get mad at them.

war is hitting the enemy from behind instead of in front where they have a chance to fight

war is not fair, but the human can think of numerous reasons why there are no other options.

love is listening to others tell their story and then saying thats the most wonderful thing I’ve heard all day even if it’s not.

love is something to guard in the heart although it needs no defense to survive.

the world deserves peace even if it doesn’t ask for peace.

they said love is never having to say you’re sorry but if we don’t apologize we can’t do better next time.

love looks for whats right, not for whats wrong, it makes its house on what is going right.

love is letting another be whoever they are in the moment without butting in or judging them as wrong. Then when they are all through explaining who they are to you, you nod your head and say, I was right about you all this time. then if they start explaining who they think u r, you go shopping at Walmart and tell them you’ll see them later.

or, you do plan B: you begin to remember all the reasons you loved them from the start and check to see if those reasons are still there. Usually, they are.

I wonder if divorce lawyers ever get divorced? They’ve had so much practice, I wonder if they practice what they preach?

One pays to get married, and pays to get a divorce, think of all that money I could take to Walmart...

Committments are done with paperwork, but they should be done on your knees with a prayer instead.

that which u give to god is well taken care of and so it is that no problem is too big for spirit to handle, either in love or war.






Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by orlando123 on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 2:43pm
Hi Laffingrain, you are in a pensive mood today! I think you have had some trying men in your life...

If I was a man I wouldn’t have a bra and a potato chip would not fall down there...

well that's one reason to be thankful for being a man then I guess  ;)

women share confidences, men share conquests

hmm, that's a little bit stereotyping of you LR! I don't think it really describes most of my male friends/relatives, but then maybe I don't hang our with this kind of man. I do agree though that quite often men don;t share feelings/confidences etc enough, and talk about superficialities too much, but I also think that can apply to humans generally. On the other hand I guess there's a time and place and it would be emotionally exhausting if you went round talking about your deepest feelings all the time.

love is being willing to love

makes sense

men like men because they are allowed to fart in the same room with each other

hmm, I've come across the occasional guy like that, but it's a bit tiresome. I guess though in a broader sense men traditionally feel they should act more refined in female company than they might with male friends, in terms of what they say and do. I guess that also works from the female point of view though too to an extent.

the only way to get somewhere is to leave expectations behind and start walking

seems good advice - as in more action, less theory and procrastinating?

love is counting up the ways u love someone and remembering this when you get mad at them.

yeah, everyone should do that. And - aside from people you really love - even with rather unloveable people you can often find some sympathetic side to them if you try


love is listening to others tell their story and then saying thats the most wonderful thing I’ve heard all day even if it’s not.

agree with first part, and I guess it's generally best not to hurt people's feelings, so the odd white lie doesn't hurt

they said love is never having to say you’re sorry but if we don’t apologize we can’t do better next time.

I think you should always say sorry if you feel bad about something. It's good to clear the air

love looks for whats right, not for whats wrong, it makes its house on what is going right

yes. nothing and no none are ever "perfect", and there's no use dwelling on the bad bits too much.

love is letting another be whoever they are in the moment without butting in or judging them as wrong. Then when they are all through explaining who they are to you, you nod your head and say, I was right about you all this time. then if they start explaining who they think u r, you go shopping at Walmart and tell them you’ll see them later.

;D

or, you do plan B: you begin to remember all the reasons you loved them from the start and check to see if those reasons are still there. Usually, they are.

:)

I wonder if divorce lawyers ever get divorced? They’ve had so much practice, I wonder if they practice what they preach?

What do you mean - that they preach that getting divorced is fine? You'd think they would avoid it as they know what a painful thing it can be... but maybe not, I mean lots of doctors smoke and not all priests are models of virtue

One pays to get married, and pays to get a divorce, think of all that money I could take to Walmart...

::) yes, if only we knew beforehand, I suppose

Committments are done with paperwork, but they should be done on your knees with a prayer instead.

yes, in an ideal world. but maybe both would be nice

that which u give to god is well taken care of and so it is that no problem is too big for spirit to handle, either in love or war.

maybe, but not everyone copes with life - is it just that they are not putting enough trust in God?

(PS I'm not very interested in war. can't believe humans are so stupid as to still be having them, but I realise sometimes leaders have hard decisions to make. I mean going to war against someone like Hitler was a reasonable idea I guess)

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by betson on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 3:45pm
Thank you, Laffingrain!

Alot of living goes into making a list like that!

Love, Bets

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 6:34pm
Hi Orlando  :)

I should have said all men do this or that until I met Orlando, lol,  ;)

I was just having some fun, I'm probably full of it though.  some of it sounds good though huh? :D

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by identcat on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 6:36pm
That's the most wonderful story I've heard all day!!   ;D

In my past lives-- when I was a man--- I wasn't too nice to the ladies.  In one past life (this is MY belief--- ) I was an African man, very small in stature and I remember kicking my wife.  Not too nice.  In another past life (remember-- this is what I envisioned during a meditation, so it's my belief) I was a Roman soldier after the death of Christ and I had sex with any woman, any time, any where and didn't concern myself about the consequences that I left behind with those women. I never supported any family.  Again--- not too nice a man.  Thererfore---- may be some truth in what you say!??  :-/

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 6:51pm
u know cat u r a breath of fresh air..u really are! I was just thinking about Dead Preacher guy. he really doesn't like the sexual revolution at all. he thinks still that sex and love should be the same thing, and sacred. then he remembers when people had manners, he goes on and on about whats wrong with society today then he goes and gets himself reborn as a hippie...go figure! but he never liked what he was looking at although he could see what they were trying to change.

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by orlando123 on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 2:47am

LaffingRain wrote on Oct 2nd, 2007 at 6:34pm:
Hi Orlando  :)

I should have said all men do this or that until I met Orlando, lol,  ;)

I was just having some fun, I'm probably full of it though.  some of it sounds good though huh? :D


No, you are not full of it! :) Some of it definitely sounds good and it is silly of me to take the jokey bits so seriously! I should lighten up!

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by mikizee on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 10:42am
Someone once gave me some advice on getting married -

'Cut out the middle man; find someone you hate and buy them a house.'

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by dave_a_mbs on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 3:08pm
As I sit on the edge of my bed eating crackers and chips I dare not tell you where the chips are falling.

But if you were a man perhaps you could forgo wearing skivvies altogether. :-)

Hmmm - sounds like some of past girl friends ... letting the chips fall where they may.

d

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by recoverer on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 5:26pm
So that's why men have beer bellies. To stop their chips from falling to the floor or to whatever the heck Dave is talking about.



dave_a_mbs wrote on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 3:08pm:
As I sit on the edge of my bed eating crackers and chips I dare not tell you where the chips are falling.

But if you were a man perhaps you could forgo wearing skivvies altogether. :-)

Hmmm - sounds like some of past girl friends ... letting the chips fall where they may.

d


Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by dave_a_mbs on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 8:20pm
And here I had been thinking that to develop a beer belly was a crumby activity - evidently quite the reverse. - I guess that saltines and navel lint are in.

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 4th, 2007 at 9:00am
my goodness what have I started? I never laughed so hard so early in the morning. ;D

Orlando u r the sweetest critter I've run across in a long time..


Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by Cricket on Oct 4th, 2007 at 10:14am
LOL!  It must be something in the air - on another board I read, some guy just posted (hopefully facetiously) that he uses his belly button to fill with salt to dip his hard boiled eggs in!

Somethin' going around, I tell ya...

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 4th, 2007 at 11:29am

mikizee wrote on Oct 3rd, 2007 at 10:42am:
Someone once gave me some advice on getting married -

'Cut out the middle man; find someone you hate and buy them a house.'


don't buy them a house, buy a mobile home, its cheaper, then one night when everyone's asleep, hitch it up and drive it away  :D

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 4th, 2007 at 11:34am

Cricket wrote on Oct 4th, 2007 at 10:14am:
LOL!  It must be something in the air - on another board I read, some guy just posted (hopefully facetiously) that he uses his belly button to fill with salt to dip his hard boiled eggs in!

Somethin' going around, I tell ya...


good heavens it must be a large belly button! I don't think this type of feller does much dishes...

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by recoverer on Oct 4th, 2007 at 12:28pm
Not necessarily, the guy might be on a low sodium diet. Poor fella. Everybody knows that happiness is about putting tons of salt on your food.


LaffingRain wrote on Oct 4th, 2007 at 11:34am:

Cricket wrote on Oct 4th, 2007 at 10:14am:
LOL!  It must be something in the air - on another board I read, some guy just posted (hopefully facetiously) that he uses his belly button to fill with salt to dip his hard boiled eggs in!

Somethin' going around, I tell ya...


good heavens it must be a large belly button! I don't think this type of feller does much dishes...


Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by juditha on Oct 4th, 2007 at 1:41pm
Hi aylsia This is my definition of the male generation

When your a young and single girl,you know how to laugh,when you marry a man,then you sit there trying to remember ,what it felt like to laugh long ago.

When you marry a man,you lose your self essteem as you are never as good ,when he takes you anywhere as the girl what passes by is always better than you in his eyes.

When you marry a man,he takes away your identity,as all you are is just his skivvy and doormat.

When you marry a man,you feel all the emotions of hurt,pain,humiliation and the realisation one day when you wake up,that you waisted to many years on him.

I'm not saying all men are like this but most of them are as they are always full of storys to there mates of how hard done by they are when there married because some men are really unfeeling and selfish.

I asked God why i had to end up with this sort of man, but i was probably learning about each emotion and i did learn what pain hurt misery and total betrayel meant,so my spirit is now familiar with these and thats why i'm in the process of divorce, because i learned what i had to learn from this man,who i probably made a deal with in the spirit world before i was born to experience this.

I think that divorces are meant to be as when your spirits learned what it needs to know,then divorce is imminent and you move on to new experience.

Like the song says"What the world needs now,is love sweet love,its the only thing,that theres just to little of".

Love and God bless   Love Juditha




Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 5th, 2007 at 5:19am
god bless u sweetie, my heart feels your grief of going thru this divorce, so I came up with this image, this is you and I, and I don't know how many other women, but this is what I feel we learn when we marry, and/or have relationships hoping for the ideal to manifest, like, an actual feeling of fulfillment!

but you have a grasp on the situation I can tell because you said you and he most likely made an agreement to act something out before incarnation, and I believe we do this too, we will be stronger in the end and I'm just glad you got yourself out of a situation might have gotten worse on you..some women, they just don't know how to walk. sometimes you have to walk, and its not necessarily a failure on your part to walk, so don't be thinking that..but someday when we have the bigger picture, we need to release all that pain thats inside you, so you can be able to smile again..ok? maybe you can't forgive yet, but we can ask guidance how to learn to forgive so we can be free spirits and be happy and learn to love again.


take some advice from this older lady whos been thru that..u can't make a man love you but u can show him how to love you sometimes by forgiving him. seems like thats what relationships are for here on Earth, to learn about the forgiving part.

its a big big lesson plan. u r honest to put up your feelings here about what u are going thru, and all of us struggle with something or another, so don't worry too much where your help is coming from..it will be there.

love ya! alysia

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by vajra on Oct 5th, 2007 at 6:10am
It's a tough space Juditha, but for sure it's all a part of the learning process.

Observation would suggest that lots of ladies (no more than men) struggle to love themselves - that something gets programmed in that leads to a kind of chronic low self esteem.

This seems to usually manifest as an inability to receive love. Compliments, gestures and the like are brushed away and with time are not even perceived. Or if perceived are dismissed as not being genuine, or as clumsy male efforts not worthy of acceptance. Leading to a chronic feeling of being unloved which often turns to resentment.

Men often compensate for their insecurities and feeling unloved by over assertion. Which can make the touchy feely part of things even more difficult leading to their and their partner feeling even more unloved. Or can feel that a lack of assertive action by their partner implies a lack of love. And which can spill over into aggression in the face of the above resentment.

Both patterns (under assertion and over assertion) when combined with an inability to read what's going on in the relationship or  to make space for it can become so ingrained and habitual that even repeated initiatives by either party will be blocked or misread. Leading eventually to genuinely hostile actions on the part of both parties.

The habitual behaviour patterns of both parties it seems to me somehow (in absence of deeper insight) often reinforce each other to leave both parties feeling out in the cold.

That's not to say that there aren't nasties out there too whose intentions are genuinely unpleasant. Or that some don't come into relationships with this low self love already so established that they purposely set out to hurt themselves - it's in the end maybe another example of our bringing into existence that which we most fear.

It all seems to be part of the great game of awakening - of learning to love and to live in love.

;) Bottom line in all of this though is that it takes two to tango...

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 5th, 2007 at 8:06am
I agree Juditha, self love is an art. we think that love will make us feel secure, but often it's just something we needed to learn, a lesson. like u said, you two needed to work something out.
might take a whole lifetime to move on from the grief of it all. I just hope you can do it sooner than that.
I donno, for what its worth, my mother and her 1st husband fought and divorced, got back together later on and had matured enough, they had a good relationship then.
and lol, then he died!  just when it was getting good.

so now that I've cheered u up, we are always here for you. Just concentrate on yourself for awhile. love, alysia

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by orlando123 on Oct 5th, 2007 at 12:52pm
I am very sorry for the pain you have gone through, but I certainly hope "most men" are not like this. Also there are some men who are very badly treated by women as well.

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by juditha on Oct 6th, 2007 at 5:10pm
Hi aylsia,vajra and orlando thankyou for your kind and loving words for me as i now feel that i am starting to move on because i am now studying for my GCSE'S in art ,which is going to take up the next 2 yrs of my life as well as computer courses i'm doing ,which are going great and i'm also writing a comedy christmas pantomine for a special christmas party for someone,so i have much to do at the moment ,which is helping me to move on.

My love to you all,love and God bless   Love juditha

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by LaffingRain on Oct 7th, 2007 at 10:47am

wrote on Oct 6th, 2007 at 5:10pm:
Hi aylsia,vajra and orlando thankyou for your kind and loving words for me as i now feel that i am starting to move on because i am now studying for my GCSE'S in art ,which is going to take up the next 2 yrs of my life as well as computer courses i'm doing ,which are going great and i'm also writing a comedy christmas pantomine for a special christmas party for someone,so i have much to do at the moment ,which is helping me to move on.

My love to you all,love and God bless   Love juditha

u r an amazing person Juditha to be doing all of that. seems like you will be fine and on the right path and your heart will be healed from all your work. love, alysia

Title: Re: All my wisdoms
Post by orlando123 on Oct 9th, 2007 at 6:28pm

wrote on Oct 6th, 2007 at 5:10pm:
Hi aylsia,vajra and orlando thankyou for your kind and loving words for me as i now feel that i am starting to move on because i am now studying for my GCSE'S in art ,which is going to take up the next 2 yrs of my life as well as computer courses i'm doing ,which are going great and i'm also writing a comedy christmas pantomine for a special christmas party for someone,so i have much to do at the moment ,which is helping me to move on.

My love to you all,love and God bless   Love juditha


Good for you. I am glad for you that you have these constructive things in your life at the moment that you feel interested in and enthusiastic about. That is a good sign  :)  

I hope the pantomime goes well. I am quite a good writer (when it comes to factual articles etc), but haven't written any fiction since I was about 16 and finished GCSE English language.. I guess I should try again sometime. Maybe I am now too self-sonscious about whether what I would write would be "good" or not. All the A's I used to get in English class encouraged me back then! I know that, really,  "good" can be very subjective (and you can't please everyone all of the time)  and if everyone let that stop them no one would ever do anything creative. I like to act, but that uses other people's words, and I just have to get into the meaning and emotions, which I know I can do.

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