Hello everyone,

My father passed away last night.  He lives near Ocala Florida.  He did not believe in God or an Afterlife and i'm concerned that his spirit will be stuck on the earth plane.  Is there someone that can help him to pass over to the Afterlife?  I am going to try to use Bruce's technique to talk with him but I'm pretty new at this and I don't know how successful I will be.  I'm afraid he won't believe he's dead and get stuck here on earth.  His name is Herbert, but he went by the nickname Pete.  He was 71 years old when he passed.  My brother was very close to him and is very distraught over his passing, and I think my father will feel responsible for him and not want to leave the earth.  If anyone has any words of advice I would surely appreciate it.  Thank you so much.

Lorri

To begin with Lorri,
we here in the conversation board would like to extend the warmest greetings to you. I believe I can incorperate the audacity to speak for everyone on that note. Each of us knows what hard time you are going thru at the moment and we send loving thoughts your way.

Pete is most likely pleasantly surprised  :-? that there is an Afterlife considering that you state that he did not believe in such. Providing that he is "stuck" (as you called it) then yes, there are qualified medial souls which can help him. At the time of becoming deceased the spirit of your father gained in consciousness. Rest assured, that this is the first step of many to follow. You reaching out and reacting to this situation can also been seen as a "wake up call". You will find lots of support and information within this site and in Bruce`s books. Plus your inner most instinct (which you have carried within all of your life) is telling you to get more educated in the subject. I am placing a link under my webaddress below to help you get furthure educated, so to be able to help your uncle as well.

We are all here for you Lorri, to help you ;) - each and every soul.  
Consider yourself hugged!
Nanner

Hi lorri,i,m so sorry you have lost your dad i know how you feel i lost my dad too 7 yesrs ago but it only seems like yesterday ,i was worried about my dad because he did not believe in god or the spiritworld ,so i went to my local spiritualist church and they have a medium on every sunday and the medium came to me and said i have got your dad here ,your dad says he didnt believe but he certainly does now, dad said he was okay and he had met the rest of his family who had already passed to the spiritworld ,dad said when he died his mum was there to meet him and i,m sure there was someone in your dads family was there to meet him too ,their are quite a few people who pass over without believing ,your dad is not stuck on the earth plane he is in the spiritworld now bless him so i wouldnt worry ,i will send love and healing to you and your brother lots of love deanna

Dear Nanner,

Thank you so much for your kinds words.  I can only hope that he is pleasantly surprised about the Afterlife and goes to that place and doesn't remain on earth.  There are many family members that have passed on before him, so I pray that they may make his transition easier for him.  I do appreciate you and all that are on here.  I know it will be a tremendous support and that I will learn a lot.  Thank you for your website I will be looking at it and learning.  God bless you and thank for your warmth and caring.

Lorri

Dear Deanna,

Thank so much for sharing your story about your own father.  That does give me GREAT hope that my own father will be okay.  There have been quite a few family members that  have passed on already and so he does have people that could help and greet him.  It gives me such hope that your father had similiar beliefs as my own father and that your father is just fine.  You have no idea how much this helps me.  You have been a very big blessing to me.  God bless you Deanna!

Lorri

You are quite welcome Lorri,

To clear up any misconception. That website is not my website, I do not feel worthy as I feel Bruce Moen and a person like Peter H. Kirchner are, to have such vivid information about the Afterlife. These are truely wonderful spirits to share all this with us!

I extend that website to you because I had found solid based research there, which had completely blown me away. Maybe you want to read my "experiencial episode" (which literally knocked the snot out of my nose) in my own thread eariler this week, that was how I ended up where I am at now. I LOVE LIFE, THE WORLD, EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING IN IT! EVEN the itzy bitzy spiders I used to dispise, ergo I let them roam now, instead of mushin their lights out. (Just not in my house!..lol..)
Hope you smiled a little for me on that one.  ;)

Never the less Sweetness, there is a difference between you "hoping" that Pete had a pleasant cross over and you "knowing" that he did. And I bet your innerself is giving you a warm feeling as your reading this. That is your spiritual Guide honey, which is inducting that. Listen to it, your getting back in touch with your true "self".

Hugs from 6000 miles away.  :)
Anja

Hi lorri ,your very welcome i am so glad that my story was a comfort to you god bless you lorri lots of love deanna

Hi Lorri-
My deepest sympathies with your loss.

From what people say when they come back in regression sessions, everything becomes immediately clear as we die. For some that's a shock, for others it's a blessing. However, there's nothing that needs concern us in tems of the well being of the dead - unless they have gotten temporarily stuck and Bruce or one of the other soul retrievers goes out to pry them loose. But that's unusual. The dead are aware of our prayers and good wishes,  and your care and love are probably more effective than anything else.

Sometimes we worry that if we don't believe in God that we'll get stuck in some kind of limbo. It actually doesn't work that way, because God always believes in us. That's true for your father as well. The key is to be as good as we can be in life, and all the rest takes care of itself.  Were this untrue, animals who have no concept of God would all rot in hell, which simply makes no kind of sense, since it's all part of the same vast wave of creative life force.

If you practice soul retrieval, you'll eventually also develop the ability to communicate to others in the spirit world to some degree. Then you can tell your father in person how you feel.

My God grant you peace in your time of adversity and lead you to greater wisdom through which it all makes sense.

dave

Hi Lorri I am Deanna's twin sister and i am so pleased the story of our dad has helped you to know that your father is okay in the spirit world,Gods loves us all and he knows that some of us on this earth plain dont beleive in him or the spirit world,but like our dad who did not beleive has said through the medium that now he knows and has always said how happy he is there with his family and how beautiful it is there and the spirit world is full of unconditional love,your father is in a beautiful loving world with all his family.Talk to your father Lorri as he hears what you say and also your brother ,if he talks to his father he will hear him to.There is only a very thin veil between us and the spirit world.

My love i send to you and your brother and God bless you both.    Juditha

I can only agree with Juditha, Lorri.

The only difference between there and here is the consciousness of the planes.

Bless you Juditha, you too are being thought of clear across the ocean 6000 miles away dear. Its amazing, some of the insight and peace which you stray. Thanks.

Hugs to all,
Anja

Dear Anja,

As I was reading your words a soft warm peaceful feeling came into the core of my being.  Somehow I know my father is okay and that he is being greeted warmly and tenderly in his surroundings.  I don't know how it possible to feel this so quickly.  I went back and read it again and received the same feelings.  I know what I am feeling is true and I thank you for facilitating that.  There are very loving kind people on here and it is a wonderful feeling.  Thank you so much for your presence it means more than you will ever know.

Hugs,

Lorri

Dear Juditha,

I had a chat with my brother and I told him my feelings that he will see our father again.  My brother is aware of a higher purpose in our lives although he feels he has been "bad" in this life and worries he will be going to a bad place.  I tried to assure him that there is no bad place and that our Creator will welcome him with open arms no matter what he has done.  I asked that he keep these thoughts in his mind although he may not believe them now.  The seeds are planted and I know he will have a glorious reunion with him one day when it is his time.  I will mention that he can have prayerful words of love from his heart sent to our father.  It was quite remarkable he mentioned that our father had a "hallucation" when our mom passed away 20 plus years ago.  Our father "hallunicated" our mom comforting him after she had passed.  He thought he had made it up!  Imagine that I never knew about this story until today.  It seems my father was in contact with someone who passed over but denied it as a hallucination because of his beliefs.  That is awesome to me because it means that another seed was planted to allow him to cross over peacefully and know that life does indeed go on!  You and your sister have helped me and my family so much.  I cherish your kindness.  Thank you for being here for us in our time of need.  God bless!

Lorri

Dear David,

Thank you for your words of wisdom.  They resonate as truth with me and give me comfort.  I am feeling quite blessed with all the words of comfort and wisdom I am receiving here.  I feel like I am having what i feel is a "quickening" for lack of a better term.  As if my spiritual growth is expanding suddenly with this event.  I feel like I'm being catapulted into a new level of awareness.  I have not felt anything quite like it before and i feel like it's going to bless and radiate to others as well.  It's hard to put it into words but this is the feeling I am getting.  Thank you for your presence it is very much cherished in my heart.

Lorri

wrote on Sep 1^st, 2007 at 7:35pm:

our father had a "hallucation" when our mom passed away 20 plus years ago.  Our father "hallunicated" our mom comforting him after she had passed.

Lorri dearest,
That which had been labeled as a hallucination, was infact your mother. Because of our different consciousness levels, (even though all human beings can be sensitive), some can recieve the higher frequency needed inorder to see into an afterlife plane dear. These are known as medial persons. At the time of passing, the consciousness of the spirit is greater as well. We incarnate (are born) with a 25% consciousness level.

A very good friend of mine works in a very large hospital in germany and even though I have never spoken to her about such a subject, she tells me of her work. Fortunately she stands by the person whom is dying. She is a wonderful loving person. She told me that most all of the people whom she stood by in there last moments on earth, all speak to someone whom is already deceased in the process of their passing.  :-? Interesting huh? In doing my research in numerious websites and books, I found millions of such cases, from far back into history all the way to just last week. I even found one particular case which had been "the end all for me" out of South Carolina! A Grandma was seriously ill, and was in the process of crossing over, the doctors called her family from all over the country in to tell her goodbye. She was "speaking to someone" whom they didnt know, so they said she hallucinating. Then she looks at her daughter and asks her : Hey, thank you honey, thank you for bringing Katy (I changed the name for privacy reasons okay) with you". "Come over here Katy, come hug this old lady she says". What convinced that family that theres a life after death, is that Katy had already been deceased several weeks priorly in an accident! They had just not told it to Grandma because she was ill herself.  :-? Makes ya think, doesn`t it honey? How did Grandma "see" Katy, if Katy "wasn`t" there?

Doing research on NDE`s and OBE`s - all report identical happenings in some shape or form, and these people are scattered all across the world and have no contact to another.

You will learn what we all already know so far, I am sure of it, you merely have a little bit of catching up to do Sweetie.

Feel safe within the creation.

Sending loving greetings,
Anja

Lorri,
just wondering how you are doing?  :)
Sincere thoughts of you,
Nanner

Hi Lorri-
This forum is an exotic place. While I regret the manner in which you were led here, I'm glad you arrived, and are "quickening" in your path of enlightenment. I've found this place to be filled with love, wisdom, and some pithy controversy at times, which has greatly improved my life. I hope that you will join us, and that you will find the same, and even greater, blessings.
dave

Hang in there Lorri, this is a good place to gather insight....

Hi Nanner,

Thanks for checking up on me.  There has been another development with my brother.  He is suicidal now and we have called social workers and police to intervene.  When the police came to his house, my brother denied that he was suicidal so there was nothing they could do.  I'm sorry to report that I feel his death is imminent and I feel powerless to do anything.  He has now taken off in his car to some unknown destination since we've called the police and social workers.  I know my brother was close to my father but I had no idea why he is now suicidal.  He is saying that our father was his best friend and he feels responsible for his death because my father refused hospital treatment at first and my brother feels that he should have forced him to the hospital.  My sister and I have talked with him for hours and he is not responding to our thoughts and pleas.  I do not know where he is and I fear now that I will get a call in the middle of the night about his death.  I am sorry to report that I not only have lost my father but my brother does not wish to live and I feel hopeless and powerless.  I worry where he will find himself if he kills himself because your state of mind is carried with you when you die.  I am sorry to report all this.  I am overwhelmed and I dont know what to do.  Please pray for me and my family.
Thank you for your concern.

Lorri

Dear Lorri,

you have our prayers and concern.

Love, Bets

Hi Lorri,
When did your brother "take off"? I`m just a little interested in the time it happened. Not that it matters much.

To you, Lorri - I have come to understand that every soul (yours, mine, your brother`s, your next door neighbors, President Bush`s) has a different PLAN, however which coincides with the soulfamily incarnation plans. We are intertwined with another.  Theres no question in my mind that its NO COINCIDENCE that you were led by whatever means to this forum and to any of the others that you`ve come to reap strength, understanding and therefor retain a higher consciousness level thru.

Although our lifes "plan" may sometimes seem hard to understand because of circumstances that happen within our lifespan, keep in mind that the reason we were incarnated is to "experience". We have free will, yes but only to the extent of making choices of going towards that which our soul wants to "experience". Your brother is doing that right this min. I would suppose. He is "experiencing" the feeling of "loss". Inturn, you and your sister are "experiencing" the feeling of "worry". Neither of you are victums of the circumstance. Be glad that he still can "feel", as some souls living here on earth find it very hard to even do so. They are very "stuck" in hardness and hate. That your brother is living out his feelings is a wonderful thing. His soul is "under construction" so to speak.  ;)

Have you ever noticed that in your life so far, when you haven`t experienced something, that it "feels" different than when you`ve already experienced something. (Read that sentence again pls.) Everything is all about "feeling and developing love" Lorri. The first time you get on a roller coaster, your heart throbs a mile a min. It "feels" the newness of the situation, it "experiences".. Get on it 200 times right after another and the "feeling" isn`t the same, so you tend to search for a "new feeling" using something else.  (I DO NOT LIKE ROLLER COASTERS... by the way  ;) ) You do not need to be affraid of your brother for he is "experiencing" and even with you being affraid, it will not change the plan whatsoever, might I add.

I invite you to ask Peter and his crew for grieving support, he will be able to explain much much better than I. Or when your brother gets back home, that you send him there to Peter. Just click on the link of my thread below. Your or his questions should go into the "support" section of their forum. The people there are qualified in such things, especially the cross over of a loved one. They have answered thousands of such situations and helped each one of them. If Peter, Caro and co. can locate your father for your brother and he then come to find out that your father is doing "honky doory", can you imagine the "feeling" all of you are going to feel? Maybe thats the reason why all of this is happening the way it is, who knows?

Lorri, you`ve found a lot of good tiny little souls here and we think you of with loving thoughts, we know what you are going thru and stand behind you 100%. I hope you can feel that, when you read our words to you. Its all about love, caring and being a tiny little soul to the next tiny little soul.

Feel free to just let it all out and experience the feeling of "relief" in doing so. That too helps to heal. But foremost never stop asking the questions, so that you may continue to learn.

Love and consider yourself hugged,
Nanner

Dear Nanner,

Thank you so much for your insight and love.  It seems my brother returned home and then was picked up by the police because of his suicidal ideations and has been put involuntarily into a center for evaluation.  We have called the center to speak with him but he is refusing all calls.  The center cannot release any information without my brother signing a consent form.  They cannot even tell us if and when he will be released.  I feel like things are out of my hands at this moment.  I do hope the professionals can give him some hope although my feeling is that my brother will get out of the hospital and try to do something to himself.  I don't know if it's right of me to say this but this is the feeling I get.  I will continue to stand watch over him and try to help when and if he's successfully released.  I will also contact the support group you mentioned and see what happens.  I feel my sister and I are doing all we can to help him and while he is in this care facility there isn't much we can offer accept our prayers.  I will keep you posted on what is happening.  I do know there are no coincidences and I'm sure I did agree to experience this yet it's not easy.  I don't know how to give hope to the hopeless.  I agree that we all came to experience certain things wih the ultimate goal of growing stronger in understanding Love and all that entails.  Thank you for your love and everyone on here who is praying for us.  It does mean so much, more than I can ever express in mere words.

Lorri

Hi Lorri,
Hope you keep in touch with us, we are thinking of you and your current experience dear.
Share with us, what you`re learning and how its affecting your spirit.

http://www.jenseits-de.com/e/index-education.html

Sending a hug and wonderful thoughts,
Nanner