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Message started by hawkeye on Aug 27th, 2007 at 3:16pm

Title: cleaning to retrieve
Post by hawkeye on Aug 27th, 2007 at 3:16pm
This morning while doing some early meditation I became involved in a retrieval of a young black woman(Julie(?) O'Brian. O'Brian being the slave owners name and so it was hers). The setting was quite some time ago and the girl in her upper teens. I found her in a old building cring and sweeping the floor. When she noticed me beside her she became very afraid I was going to hurt her. I let her know I was there to help her and that I would not hurt her in any way. I asked her what was wrong. She started to tell me and to make her feel more relaxed I started to sweep the floor with an old style broom. She told me of her being a worker (slave) for the people in the house and that she must keep this place clean or she would be in trouble again and get hurt. She was so afraid. I told her that I would help her clean up and there was no longer a need to be scared as I was there to help her. As I helped sweep I asked her what happined. She told me that her owners son had come in to this house and told her how dirty it was and how dirty she was. He then started to beat her and then to rape her. Her fear was so strong and there were points that I could feel the goings on. I could feel a dark energy around the two of us as she told me the story. There were time that I was so cold like there was an attempt to bring me out of this zone and back to C1. It was quite scary to me even though I knew that I was in a retrieval and that I could not be hurt. Its like the dark energy did not want me to help her move on. As I swept the floor I was under a table and new that thats where she was buried. Hidded away from sight. I felt myself sweeping and the dirt was like I was in C1, all real.  I could smell the dust as I swept. She told me of her being choked and forced sodomy, thats when she had died. She was cring and I felt her pain(emotional). I told her that there was no need to be afraid and that if she came with me that she would not have to feel the fear any longer. That I would be more than happy to clean the house for her and that he(O'Brian) could no longer hurt her. She was good to go at that time although still fearfull and came with me. As we moved away from the area, I lost track of her. woke up and have been thinking about it for a few hours. Its hard to explain the feeling of the dark energy that I felt but it was so close I could feel it. Not nice at all.  I was glad to of helped her move on. It all was so real. The dirt and dust. The fear she had felt, and that horrible dark energy tring so hard to keep her there and to stop me from assisting her.
Joe    

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by Vee on Sep 2nd, 2007 at 11:51pm
Hi Joe. I just read this retrieval for the first time, what a fantastic wonderful thing, to help her.
when I read this, I felt relief that it sounds as real as the retrievals I have done, and then later I wonder if I imagined the whole thing. But yours sounds real as real can be. That makes me feel more clear that my own experiences are real too. You'd think I'd get over wondering if it is all just imagination, but maybe we never do. Sometimes, the doubts come back.
Well done. I'm so happy for her, you helped her. Vee

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by hawkeye on Sep 4th, 2007 at 6:59pm
Thank you Vee, I wonder if I might have been the FM, or the Male. I hope I was just there to help.
Joe

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by tgecks on Sep 5th, 2007 at 9:12am
Great write up. What I noticed is all the feelings you got, and that you remembered them especially, and all the details, too. Great retrieval, and a great job, too.

ALL THERE IS includes retrievals like this, too, in a language they will hear and see. Fear seems to be on of the most potent ways they can stay stuck on 23, and other emotions and -- feelings (to make the circle here) and maybe this is how we are attracted to them. I ask to go where the need is greatest, or to retrieve a part of ME-US-THERE. Clearly you have done the same.

Thanks so much for posting it. As you sit with it (even now) go you find you can recall other details?

Thomas

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by betson on Sep 5th, 2007 at 11:40am

Well, you definitely did help,
Dear Hawkeye.

You must be very brave to go through such an experience. I've never felt the dark cold energy like that, where it had the sense of an entity to it, like when you say it gave you a message to leave her.  

I think that shows the kind consideration that our Guidance gives us in these 'assigments.'--"You'll never get more than you can deal with."   Congratulations, and gratitude on behalf of any former victims of abuse.  It's healing to know that someone (you) stood up against such painful violence.

Love, Bets

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by hawkeye on Sep 6th, 2007 at 7:16pm
tgeeks, I conttinue to think about the retrievel. The energy I felt was a bit scary but I know I can not be hurt by these evil (?) beings or energys. It is the not knowing for sure what part of the picture I am that has me stumped.
BRB

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by betson on Sep 6th, 2007 at 8:00pm
Dear Hawkeye,

Pleas don't torment yourself over this.
If we each take every role in our retrievals, we'd become too guilt-ridden to move.
That is not what we're there for.
We're all here to learn and move on.

Love, Bets

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by tgecks on Sep 7th, 2007 at 10:29am
Let me suggest you address that energy, and tell it that it has no power over you (which is fact). Sometimes I find these things are really aspects of my own self or of previous lifetimes I am clearing or completing, and setting one energy free is really a way of setting any energy I may have in it all free as well.

A Course in Miracles says that there is only one love, and it is yours, and mine, and God's and everyone's. I have also said this about healing(s). There is only one healing. Maybe it is also so for retrievals. ANd it is all us.

All There Is is all there is, and that includes dark energies. It is, after all, that darkness, that enables us to see Light.

Have a blessed day, too

Thomas

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by hawkeye on Sep 7th, 2007 at 12:27pm
The point of the exercise was to assist in moving this soul on from a stuck area. I am fortunate enough to have been able to assist her. The sensation of fear was but for just a short time untill during the retrieval I looked and knew that no matter whet the energy was, it could not hurt me unless I allowed it to do so. After reflecting upon the experience, I now know that it was the energy of the perpetrator. This being needed to continue to hold the girl down in order to keep her in servitude and to control her energy. My win was to let her know that she no longer needed to fear him and that she was able to move on herself. She has.
I felt his energy. It came to me as being cold and dark. I felt the cold to my bones. I know that there was an attempt to wake me up so the retrieval would not continue. He tried, but thanks to a higher energy, perhaps possibly God or a part of myself, or my disk grou[, or..... I just don't know, I was allowed to help her. I feel her smiling at me right now and feel her thanks as I write this here.
I do one or two retrievals a month. They are very satisfying when they are successful. I know that the ones that are not completed will be at some point and that the effort is weel worth it no matter what. Even if the retrieval is not compleated, it gives the stuck soul, in some cases, the ability to see the light at the end of the tunnel. (so to speak)
Everyone could make the attempt to learn how to do this. We would be far stronger for it. I intend to go to TMI's "Lifeline" this fall to help me along just this path of which for a number of years I know I am to follow. I hope to see some of you there.

My love to All of you,  
Joe
It most likly is a part of me that was retreaved. I know that inside.
J

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by Romain on Sep 13th, 2007 at 12:36pm

hawkeye wrote on Sep 7th, 2007 at 12:27pm:
I felt his energy. It came to me as being cold and dark. I felt the cold to my bones. I know that there was an attempt to wake me up so the retrieval would not continue. He tried, but thanks to a higher energy, perhaps possibly God or a part of myself, or my disk grou[, or..... I just don't know, I was allowed to help her. I feel her smiling at me right now and feel her thanks as I write this here.

My love to All of you,  
Joe
It most likly is a part of me that was retreaved. I know that inside.
J

Hello Joe;
Nice retreival; yes you do feel the coldness sometimes when we do retreival. It's fears that keep them there, normally when it happene to myself i send a good dose of PUL and clear out the doorway.
Congrat on the retreival; and sure she right there with you cause you did retreive a part of yourself; we are all one..;)
Yes do go to TMI, it a wonderful place, would love to go back if i could afford it.

Keep up the good work; with love
Romain

Title: Re: cleaning to retrieve
Post by LaffingRain on Sep 21st, 2007 at 5:30am
good work Joe. Very difficult one. thanks for posting.

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