He all,

I am curious to know if anyone participated in Gateway Voyage or any other workshop in the Monroe Institute.
What are pros and cons to it?

Thanks a lot

Maks

I did the Gateway voyage last year, and found it an exceptionally profound experience because it for the first time opened me to explicit internal communication and experience.

There is inevitably some variability in outcomes for people depending on where they are on the path, and presumably also on the arrangements for your specific course.

My personal view is that  it's the real deal....

wrote on Aug 6^th, 2007 at 10:18am:

I did the Gateway voyage last year, and found it an exceptionally profound experience because it for the first time opened me to explicit internal communication and experience. There is inevitably some variability in outcomes for people depending on where they are on the path, and presumably also on the arrangements for your specific course. My personal view is that  it's the real deal....

Thank you vajra for your reply and help.
My confusion come from the fact that the Gateway Voyage and Lifeline programs at the Monroe Istitute are combined in Bruce's tapes. Do I miss something very important here?

Best,

Maks

At TMI of course you listen to HemiSync. Although it seems not to be necessary, for some people nevertheless it might be helpful.
Another thing is staying a week with a group of similar interests in a lovely surrounding. This is something not to underestimate- it is just different than doing it on your own.
To me the Gateway Voyage (not done at the institutes' facility, but in a, as well, lovely place in Europe) was a real lifechanger. Bruce's Guidebook I read after it, so I cannot say what had happened if I had read Bruce's book first.

Spooky

Maks,

I participated in Gateway Voyage and I must say that is was a profound experience. The training was extraordinary in itself, but the connections and the friendships formed at TMI last a lifetime(s).

Interestingly, each individual takes from TMI a completely individualized experience, though it occurs in a context of group exercises and contacts. The pros and cons would be highly invidualized as well.

I hesitated often in thinking about going to TMI, but I received my own guidance that told me that I would go within six months. I doubted, thought about the money involved, which I was assured would arrive. It did and I attended TMI.

Blessing,
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E.

I went this past Dec/06. Never have I expeienced such a life changing and had such profound moments happin. I met the "All". The PUL was of such an intensity that I cried for hours. I'm 48 and haden't cried for years. I was told the meaning of life by the "All" and I will never be the same. Meeting my true "Lord" has changed the essence of me so much. I can only hope to replicate its significance to you by attaching some of the emotion and love I felt to this post. I would be pleased if you picked up on some of it. I most likly can not put it into words.

My love to all of you.

Joe

The way my spiritual path is going I doubt I'll go to TMI someday. If I did go, I believe it would be nice to do so for the below reason.

[quote author=EternalEssence link=1186368861/0#4 date=1187020527]Maks,
but the connections and the friendships formed at TMI last a lifetime(s).

Hawkeye:

More details please. :)


hawkeye wrote on Aug 13^th, 2007 at 3:59pm:

I went this past Dec/06. Never have I expeienced such a life changing and had such profound moments happin. I met the "All". The PUL was of such an intensity that I cried for hours. I'm 48 and haden't cried for years. I was told the meaning of life by the "All" and I will never be the same. Meeting my true "Lord" has changed the essence of me so much. I can only hope to replicate its significance to you by attaching some of the emotion and love I felt to this post. I would be pleased if you picked up on some of it. I most likly can not put it into words. My love to all of you. Joe

You know Recoverer, it was so cool. During an outside free flo exercise that we were instructed to connect with nature. I went over the back hill behind TMI and immediately felt pulled towards a mid sized dead Oak tree. I started touching the tree and connecting spiritually with it. Sending love to it. At a point, sometime into the experience ( it could have been a second or an hour later as time had no relevance or meaning, F15?) I heard through NVC that I was "prepared to hear". There I was crouched against this Oak hearing what was for me. The tree was twisted and dead as far as my earthly being could tell. The presence communicating to me through the tree told me that it was far from what I thought of as dead. It was, and there was no death nor life. I asked about the vine that had been wrapped around it and had choked its life(?) out of it. It was explained that that had been the purpose of its existence. To die for this vine. It further went on and told me the story of life on earth and how everthing here is here to exist for another. That we must all be prepared to give the all of ourselfs to an another without expectaton of return. The story of different living things and what was to be given up was told in different scenarios. One being the wild cat and goat story from a zoo. where the cages are beside each other and every day the two of them play the game of cat and game knowing full well that the end result will never be of the cat catching the goat. I regress. There was a small vine that had started to grow up this oak again and I started to brush it away. Immediatly I was given a spritual "swift kick in the rear." Told that I had not learned the lession and to listen again. It told me that it(the oak) must have this new vine finish it off so that  its giving up of its live to the vine , it could compleat its reasion for this existence and would be able to move on. I was showen the love of this gift and felt it within every inch of my being. I was showen different scenarios of this giving. To this day I don't know how long I was beside that tree. It could have been a lifetime or a matter of seconds. The last thing I was told was to go back. Go in for our meal and to enjoy the love of what was being provided to me. (Now if you have been to TMI, you will know that the meals are some what structured and tend to repeat themselfs. The same thing every trip. Good meals, everthing you need, but I personally feel that for the price of the week the food could be better) It was pizza night. After leaving the tree and making my way back up the hill cring like I have never cried before, I got to the building. People were looking at me and I am sure I was quite the sight. All covered in dirt and leafs. Tears running down my face and having this uncontrolled sobs comming from me. One of my new close friends asked me if all was OK and I broke down again with the feeling of this PUL that had been extended to me from this "All" that spoke to me and have shared it with me. Again and again I tried to go into the dining room to eat but every time I went in, I lost it again. Finaly I got myself together and went in and sat at a silent table. The few that were left in the room took a look or two at me but allowed me to sit by myself without distraction. I got myself some pizza and salad and sat down to eat. The food was like nothing I had ever experienced before. Each mouthfull exploding in my mouth with energy and love. It took minutes to chew and swallow each bite along with long drinks of water to get them down. Me there still cring like a baby having the experience of a lifetime. Sharing this love with this energy from the food being given to me. Understanding its gift of life ond of love for me. Knowing that I am to give of myself in much the same way. Knowing that without giving of myself I will repeat again and again untill I get it right. And knowing that this may well be one of my last chances to learn this lession. Very profound. Very life changing. The love felt, and that I know I must share and give to all of you, has changed me beyond anything else. I know this may have dragged, but it is so hard to put into words. This love and this feeling. Knowing that I must be of servise to my selfs and to "All".  

My love to All of you!

Joe  

Thank you for sharing Hawkeye:

I know what's it like to cry when feeling divine love.  After such an experience, just thinking about it gets the tears going.  

I also know what it is like to eat food when in an expanded state.

I sit here, in my little Post Office, in wonder of the love, here, shared between all of us and those whom come here to have this love shared with them. What a wonderious (sp) place to have found.  

Wonderful experience Hawkeye.  

Each mouthfull exploding in my mouth with energy and love. Sounds like PUL personified (wrong word) as food.

It took minutes to chew and swallow each bite along with long drinks of water to get them down.  Sounds like cardboard.

Experiences like yours are difficult to describe.  You did a great job and I understand your meaning.  I'm just teasing about the cardboard.  However, I can't help it.  When I was in high school we had to write a short horror story starting out:  "It was pizza night and ..."

I enjoy reading about your Gateway experiences.  Thanks for sharing them.

Rob

You know Rob, when I say life changing, its like an understatement. I, personally, will never be the same. What I wrote was but a snippet of the experience itself. I highly recommend "Gateway"@ TMI.
Joe

The below makes sense. Once you know there is something beyond this World that is truly precious, how can it not make a difference?


hawkeye wrote on Aug 16^th, 2007 at 12:14pm:

You know Rob, when I say life changing, its like an understatement. I, personally, will never be the same. What I wrote was but a snippet of the experience itself. I highly recommend "Gateway"@ TMI. Joe

Wow, I was wondering about what this was like and the course seems to get a pretty good write up here.

Hawkeye, you talked a lot about one of your experiences, and said it was very life changing. Can you say more about in what way the course changed your life, both in outlook/mental attitude and beliefs and in anything specific you changed about your life afterwards?

Did you learn anything specific to the afterlife or was the feeling of love and connectedness the main element?

Do you now think literally that everything has some specific purpose (maybe even soul?) - like the tree? (every plant... every rock...??) Or do you think your vision was meant to be understood in a more metaphorical way?

The short version....experiencing PUL, met (my) the All, was told the meaning of life, yes... life changing. I didn't even mention the OBE's. No death, ever. To truly know, life changing!

Everthing has a soul or beingness (energy). Every tree, rock, blade of grass, wave of the ocean. I have no doupt at all.
Joe  

Thanks. And did you make any major life changes in a practical way as a result? Or was it more a matter of inner changes - feeling more loved/loving and free, and confident about the existance of God and the soul and an afterlife and so on? Or do you prefer not to talk about specifics about your life on a public board?

Either way I take it you'd definitely recommend doing it ? LOL!

Did you consider any of the follow-up courses? Do you think doing a residential course is a lot different from working with books and CDs and things?

123, I would go to a mountian top and yell it out. I don't go on about it as I am at work and time is short. Work come first then here. Also I am illiterate and it takes me some time to look up the spelling of some of the words I need to put down. Don't want to look stupid to all the brains that are here on this page. My most significant change was quiting smoking pot. After some 30 years of smoking every day, I quit just like that. The way I look on others is so different also. I can see more of who people are and why they do things both positive and negative. I understand the working of evil and of sacrifice more clearly and the reasions, spiritually, for them and the lessions they bring. It did change my belief about my God. But even more so about me and my All. Bruce would call it my Disk. As for other courses, I have compleated Guidelines also. Good, but Gateway was a tough act to follow. I will be going to Lifeline this fall. It is by far the most important to me. Its about retrievals and the such of which I must compleat doing for myself over the next few years. As for going to the residential course instead of the at home. I say go. The tapes ore different and far more intence of a deal. You get them for hours a day and that makes such a difference. Plus the people you meet may well change your life. I could go on and on about it. You have to get past the money part and decide what you want out of this lifetime. I don't have money. But when I made the decision to go, the money came to me. I know I was to go, just when I did. I also had the home tapes also and l had listened to them before going. Still, going to TMI made all the difference. If I was Bill Gates and not Joe -------- I would send everone here one this page to TMI and my own cost. Thats how important it really is.
Joe

you know 123, when I read what I wrote, it seams like I haven't said just how big of a deal it was and how important it was. I don't know if I ever could explain how changing it was and still is. I believe even Bruce would tell how important it is if given the chance. I know it changed his life also. I can tell by how he speaks of TMI in his books. Not that he hasen't progressed further, but I am sure it was most pivotal.
Joe

Thank you very much Joe. I think there's a good chance I will try going to the one in Spain one day, even though it's pretty expensive. I live in the South of France, so it is more practical then going to the US

Hi Joe

I've been reading your posts on your experiences at TMI with great interest.  Have sent you a PM about this.

Irene

Maks---
Before going to the Monroe Institute, I ordered the Gateway Experience CD's.  I was able to obtain a series of 7 (though now I think only 6 are available. )  www.hemi-sync.com  Ten years ago, I couln't afford to go to Virginia, so I ordered the series, one at a time until I completed all seven sets.  Satisfied, I finally received an e-mail and/or letter from The Monroe Institute stating that Laurie Monroe would be holding a weekend retreat in Connecticut, would I be interested?  The cost was around $650.  I prayed that I would have the "extra" money for that weekend.  My husband saw the letter, and said, "If you want to go, I have extra money in the escrow account".  He didn't even finish his sentence when I had the check in the mail!  We were 24 people who met at a handicap camp in the dead of winter, with a terrible blizzard outside and by Sunday afternoon, my tears wouldn't stop pouring out.  The overwhelming bonds of oneness that was experienced is beyond words.  You become ONE with ALL: same thoughts, same wave, same breath.  I dreaded going home to "reality".  The feeling of profound oneness stayed with me for six months.  Slowly, my mind drifted back to this "time zone" and I continued to listen to the CD's and read more about the Hemi'sync experiences of Bruce Moen and Rosie McKnight.  It wasn't until 8 years later that I could afford to go to the TMI Gateway program and just this past year, I met Joe (Hawkeye) at Guidelines.  The love is overwhelming.  The comradship and feeling of "one family" has been the most comfortable pleasures that I have ever  had  to experience.  The guest speakers "float" in and we all "float out behind them" when they leave.  God   (this is my belief) made the finances possible for me to attend all three retreats. I would do it again in a flash, and will, when the finances allow me to go back.  Joe was beaming, everyday.  He walked with such a bright aura, that no one need a flashlight in the evenings when near him.  And to have the chance to share what messages, images, feelings and thought one has about the Greater Realm, Higher Intelligent beings, souls and spirits who need our help, souls and spirits who are helping us---- to discuss all this and much more without harassment and chastisement-- to ge back only Pure Unconditional Love---   so profound-- so endearing.  One of the most stressed "rules" of TMI, is to make sure you get grounded before going back to your families. It's difficult to do. It's necessary.  How can you decipher into words another "THERE" when you are here?  Is The Monroe Institute worth it???? Every cent.  I have much more patients with my family, much more compassion for their needs, much, much more strength mentally and spiritually to attend to my families' ups and downs.  It has made me a better human being and has given me some rememberance of who I really am.   Love and Light to All--- Carol Ann

Maks--- Here is a blog that you can cut and paste to a search engine and read up on some TMI experiences:


http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-GqXmmoMlc6PV2HUHTpQdIE6DRAVJqllkj0iQSElA;_ylt=ArosgICyfYAvleDU0L00pHWsAOJ3
it is in Yahoo 360 degrees as BOB BEYOND BOundries BLOG

It sounds lovely. I am glad you for both it was such an inspiring experience.

I am sure that the Gateway in Spain is the same as at TMI. The trainers are all TMI approved and trained. Not sure of your age 123, nor the cost of Gateway in Spain, but when you look at what you may have time (?) wise left for this lifetime and consider that your only talking pennies per day. The cost will mean nothing once you have gone. What is knowing who you really are worth? Or that you never will die worth? The meaning of life? How (perhaps) to go OOB at will or just to have one OBE? To meet others of your own disc family and know that you know each other without ever having met this lifetime? To retreave someone, perhaps a family member? How can I price be put on any of it.
Joe

I'm 35. Yes, it would be wonderful to have all those things. I am impressed that it gets such a good press on this thread, it's obviously worth a go. Will look again at the site and what dates are available next year perhaps.

Joe and Cat - since you both have mentioned Guidelines, I wonder if you could give a brief description of that and how it impacted you.  Something made me feel I needed to take this program before moving on to Lifeline, which I really want to take.  Also, a couple friends said they thought it would be helpful.  Any thoughts?

Maks and Orlando I'd say Gateway is definitely worth it, provided you're open to experiencing and recalling non-physical experiences.  I went this summer and it was great.  If I had gone a year ago, when I first wanted to, I might have had a lot more difficulty.  Working with Bruce's exercises helped me open up my right brain a bit.  Without that my left brain might have given me a bunch of trouble.  Time and events made it work out the right way for me.

Only one person in my group said he didn't get much out of it.  He was a mechanical engineer and came along to accompany his wife.  Said he slept through most of it.  However, one experience he did describe was right on the money in terms of the questions he was asking.  Heck, that's why I think Bruce is so great.  He overcame his engineer's doubt and convinced me (reading his books in sequence) well before he convinced himself.

Trust the feelings and guidance you get.

Rob

Rob, Guidelines was far less meaningfull to me than Gateway. Gateway being such a hard act to follow in my case. I wasen't getting a lot for the first three days then I went to the isolation booth with Skip at the wheel so to speak. In reality I was doing the driving and Skip the co-pilot. It took some time for me to get to where I need to go but Skip was good enough to allow me the Time(?) needed as I went through the different focus levels. I felt I needed to be longer in 12 than anywhere. After spending some time in 12 I continued on my most personal journey. Onward to 27-b and to one of my Guides (myself) to learn more of just what makes me tick this time around and who and why I am. Upon my return back to C-1, Skip let me know that he had never seen the amount of movement on one part of the graph that he had seen with me. What it meant, I don't really know. When I go back I will have to ask more questions. I also understood that there was people there at RMR, that I was to meet at this time. Others of, or related to, experiences that I am to have or have had, throughout Time(?).That I needed to meet them once again or to forge relationships with now as they will be needed very soon. I also felt it necessary to do Guildline before Lifeline, although I don't know why. Perhaps when I go to Lifeline, I will understand better. All in all it was very good.  Where I would go again to Gateway again and again, I most likely not repeat Guidelines at this time. I also know its all about going to Lifeline for me.
Joe    

AS for myself-- I hadn't planned on attending Guidelines. A couple I met at Gateway had planned to attend Guidelines this past April and asked if I could meet them there. After I made my plans and had my airplane tickets, the couple postponed and are attending in September (??).  I was very hurt that they changed their plans.  So, when I went to Guidelines, I wanted to know why I was to attend without my Gateway pals?? From the moment I was picked up at the airport until that evening when everyone arrived, the persons' first names somehow related to me via a family member or a work companion. It was amazing. All 24 persons had a name I could relate another person in my life to. I was definately ment to be at this particular retreat week.  
As the week progressed, I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary---for me---- as I just accept the "talent" that God (my belief) has given me as part of my natural humaness. I was absolutely delighted when I was introduced to my ISH (Inner Self Helper) whom I know was a part of me, I just didn't always connect.  I wrote a wonderful letter to both my grandson and granddaughter to be read upon my death.  I introduced them to my ISH.  I also left them a copy of my CD story about my life as a medium and guide.  I also enjoyed going into the sound proof "box" with Skip Atwater as my pilot.  During my meditation, I went very deep down into relaxation ---the zoomed and peaked upward and stayed there througout my travel.  I saw the blackness of space, and OUR planet coming toward me in pieces. I was told that this is what will happen if humans don't turn around and become more compassionate and loving toward our planet and the beings on it.  I was taken to a grid where in one little corner I was told that ALL is connected to the grid, and what is felt in one part is felt by ALL.  I was then told that by the year  2010 we would have more answers from higher intellegent beings  and that they would finally become involved. It was a good session.
As for the quite time that we are given, when there is no talking at all for about 3 hours--- I didn't get any profond feelings or messages this time nor at Gateway.  I had just "quiet time" and I listened to the sounds of nature around me.  
Tom H shared some Shamanic lesson with us (and that was very exciting) and I shared a regression exercise and a psychometry exercise to those who wished to attend.  Tom H has a blog on Yahoo called Bob Beyond Boundries in which we all meet in the spirit the 3rd Saturday of each month then share our experiences on the blog.  And, as stated, Joe was an earth angel who glowed all the time he was at Guidelines.  
Each individual has his/her own lessons that are learned and shared.  I was ment to attend Guidelines during the week I atteneded and I received PUL and inner knowledge about myself and my struggle with planatery "hate".  There is hope for us and it is coming at last!!!  Love and Light--- cat