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Message started by juditha on Jul 29th, 2007 at 5:12pm

Title: this baby's life plan with spirit before his birth
Post by juditha on Jul 29th, 2007 at 5:12pm
Hi this is really interesting,i got it off the net,its about this babys life plan with spirit before his birth


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So often, when something “bad” happens to us, it appears to be purposeless suffering. But what if our most difficult experiences are actually rich with hidden purpose – purpose that we ourselves planned before we were born? Could it be that we choose our life’s circumstances, relationships, and events?

In my research for Courageous Souls: Do We Plan Our Life Challenges Before Birth?, I found that the answer to this question is a definite yes. Working with four of the most gifted mediums and channels in the country, including one who is able both to see and to hear our pre-birth planning sessions, I’ve examined the pre-birth plans of dozens of people. These people planned such challenges as physical illness, having handicapped children, deafness, blindness, drug addiction, alcoholism, losing a loved one, and severe accidents. Courageously, they planned these challenges for purposes of spiritual growth.

Of the many people with whom I’ve spoken, there was only one who did not plan his challenge before birth. Yet, like everyone else, he did choose it. In Bob’s case, he made his choice shortly after birth, when an accident occurred in the hospital. The following comes directly from Bob’s session with the medium (Staci):

“The [spirit] guides were immediately by Bob’s incubator side, waiting for him to slip out of body and into that state of consciousness where the spirit or astral body is released. They knew it was going to happen quickly.

“My spirit guide wants us to start with the chessboard, the planning board. It’s a chart on which the steps of growth and development are plotted through one’s life, so that the soul has a visual reference. This board is like a flow chart. A flow chart is a question. If the answer is yes, you take one path. If the answer is no, you take a different path.

“When this accident happened to Bob in the incubator . . . the phrase I’m hearing is ‘back to the drawing board.’ Bob and two of his spirit guides got together and went back into the room with the planning board to diagram the alternate path that would be taken to still achieve the soul’s goals for this lifetime.

“They’re showing me the instant he [Bob] found himself back in spirit in the planning place…..very disoriented by this rapid and huge change and surprised to find himself there. He did not realize what was happening to the infant body. He recognizes his guides, trusts them implicitly, and is totally willing to be guided.

“I’m hearing one of the two guides, who is speaking for both of them, telling Bob that there has been a mishap in a procedure and that Bob’s brain has received too much oxygen. Bob appears to be in a state of shock about this—quiet, eyes wide, pupils dilated, numb and glum.

Spirit guide: The nurse involved in the operation of the tubes attached to your crib, where your physical body is even now, has made an error and has allowed too much of the elemental oxygen to flow through. This has elevated the oxygen levels in your brain, and damage is occurring.

“I see them showing Bob his eyes, the baby’s eyes. Bob’s spirit, while attached to the baby’s body, is out of the body. As they speak to him through telepathic thought, his mind’s eye sees those eyes. They show him the damage and how the eyes will look as he proceeds through childhood and into adulthood.

Spirit Guide: There is no damage to the brain; it is to the eyes. There is an increase in your intelligence. Though it is a minor increase, it will serve you well. You now have the option to reevaluate your plan for your life to see if these changes will serve your purposes. If you so desire, you may withdraw from this body, return to us, reevaluate a new host family, and draw up new plans.

“Bob fires off a lot of questions rapidly to his guides. He asks about his ability to walk. He wants to be reassured that his body will still be able to function as he expects. They assure him that it will. Then he asks:

Bob: What about my work?

Spirit Guide: This will be accomplished.

Bob: Will this handicap impede my evolutionary process in this lifetime?

Second Spirit Guide: Let’s see.

“Between the guides and Bob, in the middle of the air, is the planning board for his old life on the bottom, a transitional planning board above that, and above that the board for Bob’s life as it will be after this change. These boards are like a hologram—filmy in appearance, not solid. Their thoughts create these boards and draw lines on them. Lines represent the process of growth.

“A diagram forms. There are little branches along the way. Some of them are houses. For example, the home his family occupies at the time of his birth, the home they move to, and the places he occupies in adulthood, even college, are mapped out on this board. It all happens very quickly.

“With their thoughts, they move elements from one board to another. The first thing they take from the original planning board to the transitional board is his mother.

Spirit Guide: Let’s begin with your mother. She will remain in this life with you and will continue to be your mother.

Bob: That’s good.

“Bob looks reassured. He takes a deep breath and lets out a sigh [of relief].

Spirit Guide: Your father . . .

“They move him from the original board to the middle board.

Spirit Guide: He will still be with you.

“Very quickly other elements are moved—family pets, relatives, things like that. They all go to the transitional board. As the guides move these elements to the transitional board, they also appear on the top board.

Spirit Guide: These elements are unchanging and will remain a steady influence, focus, and force in your life. But your teachers will change. This school [points to a school element on the lower board] is no longer relevant because of your condition. You will now be going to this school [points to a school element that suddenly appears on the transitional board]. This school will serve your needs best and will give you the guidance you need to live in the world under these conditions. Next, let’s take your friends.

[End excerpt]

As Bob’s session with Staci continued, we heard he and his spirit guides do a great deal more planning regarding many different aspects of his life. In the end, Bob decided to accept the additional life challenge of blindness rather than return to spirit to plan a new life.

I believe that an awareness of how we plan our life challenges can completely change the way we view them. Wisdom may be acquired in a more conscious manner; negative feelings are replaced by acceptance, forgiveness, peace, and gratitude.

Ultimately, regardless of our challenges, we deepen our appreciation of life as a soul-expanding, evolutionary process.

Robert Schwartz, Author
Courageous Souls: Do We Plan Our Life Challenges Before Birth?

Love and God bless  Love Juditha

Title: Re: this baby's life plan with spirit before his b
Post by dave_a_mbs on Jul 29th, 2007 at 6:12pm
Thanks Juditha-
I'm not very hot on the "structures" that people perceive, as these can be created at will by simple suggestion. But the overall process seems very valid. I've gotten similar feedback in regressions by people who were simply asked about how they came to wind up in this or that life. So we seem to pick all these annoyances for ourselves.

I wonder if the Spiritualist Church you attend might have been pointed out in advance?  :P

dave

Title: Re: this baby's life plan with spirit before his b
Post by the_seeker on Jul 29th, 2007 at 10:28pm
that is an amazing excerpt.. very cool.  but i disagree so strongly with my life's circumstances that i highly doubt that i will ever have peace, understanding or forgiveness about them.  if i planned this life out, i'm mad at myself for being so stupid.  if someone else in the afterlife forced it on me, i'll be furious at them.  

i agree bad circumstances can lead to personal growth, but sometimes those circumstances are so bad that the negative outweighs any positive gained.  

Title: Re: this baby's life plan with spirit before his b
Post by asethaa on Jul 29th, 2007 at 10:49pm
I've heard this notion over the years - that we plan out our lives before birth. I've never been able to fully embrace it, though. It's seems so damnably fatalistic, always an unseen axe hanging over our heads. I can think of few reasons to even get out of bed in the morning, knowing this may be the day it drops. Seems to take away our power, doesn't it?

-Chuck-

Title: Re: this baby's life plan with spirit before his b
Post by the_seeker on Jul 30th, 2007 at 12:32am

Quote:
Seems to take away our power, doesn't it?


i think it's a double-edged sword.  this theory (assuming it's true) gives our soul (our true self) more power, but takes away power from our physical self, and that physical self is so strong in a physical world.

on the positive side, our physical selves are ignorant anyway, so isn't it better to have our soul mapping out our lives?  also, at least it gives us some power - a physical self really has no power, because a terrible accident or murder could happen to you at any time.  if our soul plans it, at least a terrible tragedy would have purpose.

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