Hi this spirit came to me last night,but the only thing i could not make out is that there was this really strong scent of vomit.This spirit communicated these words so fast that i could barely keep up with it as i was writing what this spirit was saying to me.

Im here to talk to you of the equations of life on a narrow time consuming existence of the present tense of time continuim.
The galaxys are ready and waiting for the change of one existence to a time of tense mediation.
What you may say is,what am i trying to say here as i must explain myself.
I am from another planet,observing and experienceing all kinds of human emotion.
There are many worlds,which will never be explored by human man,it is not for them to explore,there time on earth is limited,as for me this is not so.
I have been around for billions of your earth time,but i do feel love for the human race,which is really unique a way of existence,we are all one in spirit,nothing seperates us from that.
We are all the creation of time and space continuim,we are unique,all spirit,all part of what is around us,we are all part of Gods plan,the beautiful creator of everything that has been created.
Look to the skies and what do you see,a vast universe,which could and never will be completely explored by human man.
It is our task to join together and thrive in the love of the divine one,our one true loving God who is the giver of all things,which are deep in everything,everyone of us,it is in our very souls,as we are one unit,one body,one spirit,the children of God.
I bring this message from one who watches over you many times,radiating love,whereever i go.
My name is Toshka, a spirit from the high realms,i leave this message now,with these words.
Love thy God,with all thy heart,as he is your redeemer of good times to come and much changes to the reality you now know,only a better reality,be ready,for it is coming,all will find Love,Peace and Serenity.
The Love of God and my love also be with you all.
Toshka High Spirit.

I wondered what you make of this message,i dont understand some of it.

Love and God bless    Love Juditha

the message seems uplifting all in all, although I'm perplexed about the vomit smell; why not the scent of flowers to get your attention?

I didn't see anything I disagreed with; there is great change in the winds and we may not do space travel for many years yet to come so what he says is correct, we don't need to do space travel until we are evolved enough. we are still a warring planet in other words.
the space/time continuem he speaks of just means to me that space/time are one set of realities...you cannot have space without time. as when we humans look with our retina upon the stars, we are looking at the past at the stars which used to be there, because to do space travel for a few years, when the humans come back, their kids are adults, yet linear time that has passed for the astronauts was only a few years..

apparently, this guy can't die. interesting. seems like a genuine contact Juditha. love, alysia

JUDE HOW PRIVELEDGED YOU HAVE BEEN YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THEIR WILL BE A BETTER EARTH LOVE DEANNA

Interesting, Juditha- Sounds as if some intergalactic spook had indigestion, but that might be their normal breath.

My take on the message is the usual all-is-One notion, and that our nature as united souls seems to transcend our nature as "mankind" etc. Further, that it is our task to learn to enter into this universal  unity. And, in time, that it will bring a better world.

I find it interesting that there is a religious message - to love God - but that certainly is reasonable in any culture, whether earthly or otherwise.

The manner in which it is phrased reminds me of my hippie days 50 years back, and of the trouble I used to have speaking and communicating when I was stoned out of my mind. (That could also explain the vomit. I've had some experiences of that sort ...) However, in meditation it is equally difficult to stay on a deep level and yet express ideas.

Thanks for sharing!
dave

Dave said:  :D Interesting, Juditha- Sounds as if some intergalactic spook had indigestion, but that might be their normal breath
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thanks Dave, I never thought of that ;D

That's rather lovely Juditha. Wonder what his role is? He seems to say that he (or somebody else) watches over us.

He talks of good times to come in quite a definite and immediate way - almost as though some definite change is due quite soon. Although I suppose it'd be best not to get too excited - if you have an almost infinite life a few thousand years here and there might not count for much.

Wonder if you will be able to make contact with him again? Maybe even ask a few questions...

I once spent a summer at the Chapel of Light in Portland (spiritualist church) working with the house mediums in an effort to contact the collective spirit of the city. I got a few fakes, but never a collective persona. However, in meditation my image has always been of an expanding awareness in which we leave the world of being individual people, and we start sharing the nature of a group-mind, then a larger group like a planet, next a larger group like something huge that doesn't compute too well to my limited mind. I've had this sequential image a great many times. Who knows, it might actually be valid.  ::)

Applying that kind of thinking to the message by Juditha would suggest that there are levels of participation in which we share, yet of which we are not yet aware, except by occasional messages like this. Perhaps this is the collective consciousness that I've been looking for.  

If we want to try to guess at the size of this guy, let's look at his age as "billions of years".  Astronomy has estimated the size of the universe at roughly 20 billion light years radius. So one billion years is about the time for light to cross about 3% of the known universe. During that time, of course, the universe would also evolve, so the actual coverage would be a bit less. So for this being, a few billion years age represents about 3% to perhaps 10% of the radius of the known universe, or very (!) roughly .0001 to perhaps .0003 of the volume of the known universe.

The number of galaxies within a billion light years is enormous. However, since each of us radiates fields of disturbance, like ripples in a pond, except carried by electromagnetic, gravitational, kinetic, optical and other kinds of disturbances, in her 50 odd years, Juditha's influence has probably extended itself to 50 light years, about 5 x 10¹⁴ kilometers. To be able to respond, a being must be within half that distance, or about 2.5 x 10¹⁴ kilometers. That's still a huge distance, but it is within our Milky Way galaxy.

Based on the ability to respond to Juditha by normal methods limited to the speed of light, the being must have responded from a position within our galaxy, and probably from one of the closer stars, less than 25 light years distant.

As for the vomit flavor - a lot of food that we eat, such as pizza, resembles the acidic environment of the stomach,  while others, such as Tsingtao Beer (which contains asafoetida), or Limburger cheese, resemble other organic flavors which most of us take care to wash away after we produce them. If our spirit happens to look like a Komodo Dragon, complete with rotting shreds of last week's intergalactic road kill still in his teeth, we need ask no more.

dave

:) Dave said: (I  wish I had) If our spirit happens to look like a Komodo Dragon, complete with rotting shreds of last week's intergalactic road kill still in his teeth, we need ask no more.  
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u just can't help yourself can you?  ;D

well, I can relate to Dave's meditation here: in meditation my image has always been of an expanding awareness in which we leave the world of being individual people, and we start sharing the nature of a group-mind, then a larger group like a planet, next a larger group like something huge that doesn't compute too well to my limited mind. I've had this sequential image a great many times. Who knows, it might actually be valid.
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I had an out of body experience where I was dead and got retrieved by PUL of my daughter. Her love awakened me to the fact I must have died and now I must surrender to the great spirit in the sky. I've told this before but its fun to retell it.
something took care of me and I blinked out and blinked into a community such as the expanding awareness locale Dave describes. however, we were all like retrievers, in that we were all in service to humanity and evolvement of that.
we could enter the minds of those who asked for help during the shift, but only if they asked. there was no sense of loss of individuality even though we were all in cooperative mode with one another and could read each other's field, or mind, as in instant telepathy. there was a sense of oneness unlike any I've felt before. they all said to me "it's been awhile, we knew you were gone." welcome home.

the group was the 5th dimension. all in service, during the great changes taking place. I cannot fathom losing individuality right at this time, but we can say that there was a loss of ego, or a loss of the feeling of being a separate entity. What was replaced was that we knew together we could accomplish more than separately; we lived high up and networked our members out with messages to mankind. It was a nice feeling to be home and to be loved and love and to be assisting a greater purpose. so it might actually be valid Dave. glad you're here btw.

Juditha, this is very interesting!

This is a different kind of communication than you have ever put forth here on this forum. I, for one, am thrilled that you are opening up to unusual sources in addition to assisting people here on earth contact loved ones.

To me, this shows that you are open minded, and that you are willing and able to access a wide range of sources you may not entirely understand.

I have run across a few strange looking entities in meditation. None seemed harmful, but just watchful, just as you describe.

Wonderful!

love, blink :)

You're right, Alysia - I simply can't help myself. Given a keyboard and screen it just pours forth. Semper in excretia.  ;D

Thanks for the validation - your experience sounds remarkably similar to what I was describing, but I left out the interaction part - I had forgotten it while looking at the structural details.

d

Hi dave aylsia vajra and blink I felt so uncertain for a little while after i had written the message  because of the smell of vomit,i felt uneasy at that moment whether it was something from the lower entities,so i tried to tune into this spirit who calls himself Toshka and i started to commune with him again and i asked him this question.  

Toshka can you explain to me ,why there was this smell of vomit.

I introduced the smell of vomit as a sign of all the badness and coldness within the earth plain,which has been producing itself to the earth for many decades,through human sloth and also depravity of life on this your earth plain.
There are many ways in which you can destroy goodness and the one thing which must never and can never be destroyed is love,it is the heart that beats around the whole planet,without it there would be much caotic destruction.
Your world consists many things,which as i said before,the oneness of God that presides in all of you.
My world consists of spirit.which resides on many planets around the universe,i came from love,you came from love,but much of the human race has resorted to wars over many such things as religion,which should never be fought over,it is not an issue and never will be,we are who we are,we all have a mission upon all planets including your planet earth and from all that we learn,love is the biggest challenge from inside all living things.
Take the love of God for instance,God has no set rules,he is not this great commander in the sky,he is within you, around you, he is the love that radiates from your very soul.God gave you choices to take in your earth life,to do with these choices what you willand to find in yourself,who you are,why you are on a certain road to fullfill your destiny and it is your destiny to fulfill as each and everyone of you are unique in everyway.
as i said reality soon will not be as you know it but a better reality,which you are helping to create,with the love you show for others.
I will leave you now,Gods love be with you,and my love also. Toshka.

I am never sure when i get messages especially from this kind of spirit as before i would never beleive that there were others out there in the universe,i still doubt my ability as a medium but i have to write excactly what i receive,i sometimes think have i got some kind of fantastic imagination,which i asked the medium at the spiritualist church tonight and he  just told me ,what he has told me so many times that i must beleive in what i receive and also keep my faith in spirit.

Love and God bless   Love juditha

So the vomit was a value judgement on us? Hooo Boy! That's a real stinger! Worse, it's rather obviously appropriate.  :-X

Despite that, I like that Toshka spook.

Keep at it Juditha. The validity of what you're getting should convince you that you're doing it right!

dave

"God has no set rules,he is not this great commander in the sky,he
is within you, around you, he is the love that radiates from your
very soul.God gave you choices to take in your earth life,to do
with these choices what you will and to find in yourself,who you
are,why you are on a certain road to fulfill your destiny and it
is your destiny to fulfill as each and everyone of you are unique
in every way. "

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"we are all part of Gods plan,the beautiful creator of everything
that has been created."

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This seems like a standard New Age voice, repeating what is said
here in forums like this one. . This could be ok, if what is being
said also happens to be true on a large galactic scale, such that
this voice might be describing what is actually out there.

Also, I find affinity with "God has no set rules" . That seems to be
what it is like in the higher heavens. It is these imagined set
rules that are causing the sectarian wars in Baghdad.

Nevertheless, I also see in this, the standard Earth delusion, that
everything was created by a good, moral god, who loves humans.
This completely ignores all the horrible creatures on Earth, like
the anopheles mosquito that transmits malaria, the tse tse fly that
transmits the sleeping sickness, hundreds of types of biting blood
sucking insects, like ticks, fleas, and biting flies, hundreds of
parasites like dog worms, tape worms, and a worm that bores into
the eye and causes blindness, hundreds of germs, some fatal to man, on
a planet that runs on a food chain where the animals kill and eat
the next animal down on the list, hundreds of types of agricultural
pests that the department of agriculture is in constant battle
with, etc. These are not the lovely creations of a good creator.
Yet the major religions of Earth simply refuse to see this or look
it in the face, and then they go on saying the same stupid crap,
about an all-powerful loving, harmonious god who created everything
that is. This is the number one Earth religious delusion. Yet the
evidence it is not true is everywhere and obvious. So there is a
kind of mass hypnosis involved here, such that people choose to not
see what is right in front of them.

Well, now we have a voice that seems to have this same delusion. So
in that respect, at least, I am not impressed. It is as if these
spirits all hang out with the same crowd and say the same silly
things.

Nevertheless, I am definitely interested in Toshka and what he has
to say, and I would like you to keep on reporting it. And I am glad
he gives his name, that is important, so we know who it is that is
speaking.

I am so glad that your abilities are developing, Juditha.
I am glad you stayed with a church where things like you have been
reporting, continue to happen. I love you and hope you will be able
to cope with your life.

Hi Boris, long time no see!

I think god was pretty hands off when he created the physical
universe. Just laid out some general plans and pushed the
button to "easy cook". He probably did know what he would be
getting though.

But life is a lot like your dad giving you some discipline. You
suffer but you know it's transient and better times lie ahead.

- choppy

Juditha, Thank You for going back and getting more to clarify this message.

I have no problem with anything this being said. It resonates as true to me, for anyone who can hear it.

love, blink :)

Ta Juditha. Who can tell what's going on with some of this stuff, but it sounds credible.

The tough question that follows is just how the heck do we wake up?? What's needed?? Are we missing something, or is it that all have to complete the hard slog towards awareness over many lifetimes. Is it possible that the talk of a shift in awareness in the run in to 2012 may even be true?

It's hard enough to live properly when you know what you should be doing, but most don't even consider the possibility that their conditioning is off the wall. We've built a culture that teaches very little to kids except force, violence, advancement at the expense of others and rule of the fittest.

On what Juditha was told. I suppose it'd be odd if what was said on that issue did not resonate with the broad thrust of what's been coming through in recent times. Not to mention that it seems that this sort of communication has to draw on the mental constructs of the person receiving and so it will always sound a bit familiar.

Not to mention that as above the vomit is pretty original and by no means a cliche....

Greetings,

Boris, you said:  "These are not the lovely creations of a good creator."

It seems like what you question here is a variation on "why must we 'die' ?"
We have to die to the earth plane sometime, and of some cause.

I too wish that we can leave without suffering.

Love, Bets

Hello again,

Vajra just said: "just how the heck do we wake up?? What's needed??"

A response just came to mind that on Earth we have such a wide variety of distractions from love that we forget to love sometimes, much of the time. We get too busy with the distractions. No other planet has such a wide variety of materials from which we build our distractions and then aske for more.
Then Toshka, Christ, all of the wise ones tell us simply to love.
We're so busy with our own little take on the distractions that we say, 'sure, we will love, in our spare time, after we've dealt with this and that.'

What if the big and *only* test on Earth is to learn to exist in loving,-- within that band of energy that contains brotherly, romantic, devotional etc etc loves,  despite the tests of distractions that come in every sensory form that can be imagined??

To me that answers the question, Vajra.
For me to live it is another matter. I would have to simplify,simplify.
I would have to raise my vibrations and do so at any moment I felt them falling off due to some disturbance or distraction. I would have to offer loving thoughts while driving in traffic, when the TV's on, while carrying out the garbage.... Just writing  this I can feel the difference, now to keep it going !
Thank you, Vajra!  (And thanks to Toshka too.)

Love, Bets

Hi Bets. As ever the simple answer is the truth.

We're so driven to complicate our lives. And not only do we do it, we see it as desirable, as sophisticated.

Yet as Buddhism teaches all this ever deepening layer of conceptual thought does is to obscure our inherent wisdom and compassion.

I still wonder what the how of this is though, in that I don't think it's asking us to go back to living tribally, or like the native cultures do. There's a higher solution which in effect squares the circle so that we manage to live a higher level of intellectual sophistication while at the same time not being eaten by our minds - not letting the 'mad monkey' get out of control.....

Hi Boris I dont really understand all what Toshka is giving to me but  i myself can only say that worms and all is that i read  that there was to be seven plagues on the earth being locusts ,spiders ants or something like that,not sure if im right about this.

I love you to Boris and I  am slowly getting towards copeing better with life, so thanks for wishing me well,its strange when Toshka communicates with me he does this so fast with his words that i am writing very fast and i do actually get some vague image of him in my mind and he looks like a pale jade colour and thats all i can see of him,but i feel a very strong sense of goodness and love from him.

Love and God bless   Love Juditha

hi juditha, keep your open mind and allow the messages to come through. As for the seven plagues thing, it sound like more of that organised religion cr-p attempting to scare the heck of of people. The only plague on this planet is the attempts of some to rule over others and the destructivnees and greed of us humans.

I found it interesting, and to myself good evidential stuff that Juditha posted Toshka up here with her saying she needed help interpreting it as it was not at once clear to her what was coming thru.
this shows me personally, Juditha is the real thing, in training perhaps, but then I have found no masters walking around here in flesh, so we are all in training in that respect.

in essence Juditha allows us to respond. we love to talk. she gives us a chance.
that is the nature of her beauty and courage. to be reporting as a medium in this day and age still requires the utmost courage to go public. especially when u know darn well you don't know everythng there is to know which she admits.

Like Vajra said...the vomit is a totally unique touch..not sure I'd have the courage or desire to report a foul smell. but as I think about it, we here on Earth do have a collective scent...and a collective tone as well. perhaps we can improve on it over time!

also the channelled material has to fit the vessel. Juditha is aware the importance of love, so she has that vocabulary for the spirit to work through.
Boris, you're so right, everything gets eaten up around here, like for instance, everybody is somebody's fool. I can't remember designing the universe like this, but I know we can rise to the challenge of whatever faces us.

you love has grown since when I first met you.

wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2007 at 9:51am:

Ta Juditha. Who can tell what's going on with some of this stuff, but it sounds credible. The tough question that follows is just how the heck do we wake up?? What's needed??

I'm glad Bets caught this question from Vajra. Yes, a good one.

I believe that we wake up by becoming present. In Presence, as Eckhart Tolle teaches, we have no room for fear or anger or any of the lower states of being because we do not live in the past or the future there.

In Presence we are fully ourselves.

To me, that means we become aware of All, and our place in All that Is. In this awareness we are happy. In this awareness conditioning falls away. We are purely ourselves.

In Presence, we listen. We listen closely, because we are fully alive, and each word, spoken and unspoken, has meaning for us. We accept another's Presence beside us and as part of us, gladly, and with interest.

I think this is what it is to be awake.       love, blink :)

Hi aylsia Thanks for saying im getting it right as i still doubt myself,i sometimes think im a little bit like one of Jesus disciples"Thomas who doubted everything" and Joe i agree with you what you said about plague.

Love and God bless   Love juditha

Quote from Alysia:
"your love has grown since when I first met you".

Yes, Alysia, there is a progression that has gone something like
this:
At first I respond to people in ways that affect us that may be
good or not so good and criticise, etc. At first love may not be
much part of it.

Then, the afterlife knowledge gets filled in, and I see this Earth
life as being more valuable for what is learned here. That is, I
see more of the whole thing, particularly how much I am learning
from each thing. For example, when my Moslem friends find I am not
Moslem, they ask my why I "waste" my time with them, well, the
learning has been huge, such that I can't tell them in a few lines.
This same applies to life in general, like my learning curve is
going up with age, not down, because there is so much more I can
put together and synthesize.

This then leads to an appreciation of life for what is being
learned, in spite of all its difficulties and irritations, because
it is seen as a unique opportunity, a special incarnation that
offers a special line of learning. Sometimes, the more difficult
it is, the more skills are developed. Like, difficulties and
improvement go together. Also, there is the realization it wont
last forever, so you better get the most you can from each
opportunity.

Then comes the realization that the people around you, are part of
this life that you now value much more, seeing it in perspective.
Then I come to love the people more, simply because they are part of
a life that I am coming to appreciate more for what it offers.
Like, then I can look out at people and say, hey, you are the
providers of this life I am coming to appreciate more, so maybe I
love you too. You are the ones with whom I can share all this.

Hi Boris-
While I certainly agree with what you say about biting flies and mosquitos at roughly six in th afternoon - that's when we go inside because they all come outside -  I can recall life as a tube worm sucking up slime. It was a pretty good life - just oozing along and enjoying it.

If it weren't for the biting and non-biting flies and other bugs we'd have to find something else for the hummers to eat (evidently the sugar water in my feeder is dessert in between snaps of protein) , and for the larger birds to squabble over, and of course bats rely on the little beasties.  It looks like we get it all or nothing.
dave

Juditha

I believe we can get messages from Higher Spirits and also from the lower ones. The lower ones very often pretend to be higher spirits. So the important thing here is what we got from the message. I think that most of it was positive and useful. Despite that I must say one thing I’ve learnt, it’s that a Higher Spirit never says He is a “higher Spirit” because they are usually humble “people”. (it likely can have been a result from some language issue maybe)

The import thing is to receive the message and assess it has you did.

love.

that was sweet Boris, u seem more balanced these days, good work. a philosopy I  picked up from a kid one time was "life is what happens while you're waiting for it to happen, or even the people around me are the people I have been waiting to meet all my life.

Blink said: I think this is what it is to be awake.

this above in regard to accepting another person. the word acceptance has more meaning than we generally apply to it but I was struck by Blink's soul maturity here (I'm sorry if I'm turning this thread into a mutual admiration society) :)  but I remembered what Blink has just been thru, and I got a glimpse how people come and go in our lives and theres a reason for that..sometimes we just outgrow the behavior patterns that we're used to enacting with someone.
it seems a little sad, but a friend of mine was very wise, he said he will establish a small group of friends and as he grows, they fall away, and another group may or may not come in, but the friends who stay, they are the true companions who just accept each other and grow with the changes.

Boris said it well, its difficulties that make us grow should we face them straight on.
back to topic, Juditha, as Kardec said, the higher beings will come in love and not brag about it, I suppose you would be able to ascertain or discern the spirit?

always keep your white light shield and pray for the highest good and you will attract that good to you and not need to be worrying about misinformation and misleading spirits. we all have doubts but its good to talk it out like you do. its hard for them to fake PUL, so trust yourself. I heard you say you love god  many times, I think your love protects you.

DaveMbs, men are such worms, but I can't live without them for some reason.

Hi aylsia and kardec  Last night when i walked in my bedroom,there was that scent of sick again ,but this time i completely ignored it and did not even try to tune in as part of me is not sure in a way whether this is something that is good or something pretending to be what it isnt,so i completely blocked it,as it could be okay but also it could be something from the lower realms and part of me felt like im doing the right thing here.

Love and God bless    Love juditha

I think Juditha that cynicism (or doubt) in the true sense is 100% healthy - it's simply a reluctance to accept or believe without good reason combined with an openness and  lack of preconception or prejudging about anything. (for whatever reason - pride, ego, irrational fear etc)

This follows from the nature of mind. An old (Zen?) saying is that we reverse into the truth - that the only way we can reliably come to it is by discarding all we can show to be untrue. What's left is most likely true, or at least true within the limits of the conceptual framework you are working in.

The problem with coming at it as is commonly the case from the other side which is to propose a theory and then try to disprove it (as science does) is that leaves one wide open the being fooled by the way mind tends only to perceive that which fits with its beliefs. (the goldfish bowl or the self-justifying cocoon I mentioned before)

Which problem being the means by which our (normal) human delusions maintain themselves indefinitely.

What is not  healthy I guess is what cynicism is commonly perceived as being - a default negative position on everything....