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Message started by juditha on Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:05pm

Title: a babys OBE experience
Post by juditha on Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:05pm
Hi I went to the centre today were i go and i went to see the preist again and there were lots of us there this time and we somehow got onto the subject of OBE which as usual our preist does not beleive in,one of the men there whos called paul said to our priest that he had his first OBE when he was a baby and he remembers coming out of his body and floating up to the ceiling and he could see his mom and dad standing around his pram which his body was in but being a baby he just thought ,Why is mommy and daddy down there and im up here and then he was back in his body,he has had many OBES and he sees things that happen before they do as he also was describing were the astral plain is.

This is the first time paul has spoken of this to us and he really told our preist how wrong he was by saying that the spirit does not seperate from the physical body  as our preist is convinced that when we die ,we just go to another physical existance and not a spiritual one.

I told him today that last night on google i looked at some spirit pictures and one of them was taken at a funeral and this lady had just had her mom buried and she then took a photograph of her husband in the car and when the photo developed her moms spirit was on it sitting in the back of the car and it has been proven a genuine photo.

Our priest said that i shouldnt beleive everything i see or read on the computer and how did i know its genuine and have i ever met the ppeople or scientists that said it was,but i didnt understand that because there are lots of scientists in the world who i would never meet or know and our preist said he wouldnt beleive anything unless he saw it himself.

Then our preist said that on the day Jesus ressurected,he was a solid body and ate and sat with the disciples,so there cant be a spirit and i told him that Jesus said Do not touch me as i have not yet ascended to the father and i said that when jesus ascended to his father,he was then spirit.

Then he said there is no spirit world and i reminded him again that Jesus said,My fathers kingdom has many mansions and i told him that the spirit world is made up of seven plains and thats what Jesus was saying about his father having many mansions,our preist just sort of looked at me and did not really say much.

I felt a bit sorry for him as one of the women that were there, told him that the catholic church were saying that because he is anglican, he is not a preist only a vicar,he did not seem to like that as you could see it in his face.



this is what was written next to the photo i got off google.
This next photo was taken in 1959 by Mrs. Mabel Chimney in a British churchyard. She had just finished photographing her mother’s grave and then took a picture of her husband, who was waiting for her in the car. He was alone in the auto at that time, yet the developed photograph clearly showed Mrs. Chimney’s mother in the back seat of the car. A photo expert examined it for a British newspaper and declared the photo to be authentic. In fact, he went as far as to declare, “I stake my reputation on the fact that this picture is genuine,” he said.

This is that photo took at the funeral.



Love and God bless   love Juditha

Title: Re: a babys OBE experience
Post by hawkeye on Jul 19th, 2007 at 2:43pm
Hi Juditha, I an under the assumption that your priest is RC. As you may know the Pope has declared that only the R.C. relgion is the true one and that all others are just not as true or important as theirs. In my opinion only, it sound like their running scarred. When you look back at what pain and suffering that the RC Church has been the cause of in this world..... its no place that I personally would want to be connected with. You can ask a lot of the Indians or as it has been showed in the news, kids just what a lot of these organised religions are all about. A place for perverts and control freeks. But then I don't believe in prganised religion. In my head, I believe there all about money and control. Not God.  

Title: Re: a babys OBE experience
Post by hawkeye on Jul 19th, 2007 at 2:47pm
Now how cool for Paul. To remember that OBE. I believe him, why would he lie to you and the priest.

Title: Re: a babys OBE experience
Post by spooky2 on Jul 20th, 2007 at 7:19pm
If this priest/vicar will have more conversations as he had with you, Paul and the others, he probably will finally believe in the spirit world I guess! (Or he gets grumpy and retires)

Spooky

Title: Re: a babys OBE experience
Post by Kate on Jul 20th, 2007 at 8:43pm
Looking at the picture, I thought the ghost was actually a man.  I swear I see a mustache on him.... or her. :-?  Maybe I'm looking at the wrong spot or something?

It's a really neat picture anyway.

Title: Re: a babys OBE experience
Post by betson on Jul 20th, 2007 at 9:53pm
Hi Kate,

I wondered about that too, but
I think if she had a dominant 'overbite' that the contour of her face there could catch extra light. Also we don't know what she's made of, but it could be some thing that catches or reflects light coming in through the window.
Even if it is a male figure, since no one else was in the car, it's still amazing!

Bets

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