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Title: message this morning not sure what it means Post by juditha on Jun 23rd, 2007 at 8:22am
Hi I received this message this morning,and i wrote it down word for word,not sure what it means,but im sure it came from Jesus our beautiful saviour.
This is the message There are three trees,that will meet.which tells of the second coming,rejoice in the knowledge of my coming among you once again,the time is near,hold in your hearts my loving embrace of times to come,thou will see,thou will know. Rejoice in my love for you,my faith in your love for me,fills me with much joy and gladness,the time is near for love to embrace the earth,be ready for this time of greatness and love,for you are all the children of God. The only thing i can think of three trees meeting is a landslide happening at the time,because i think thats when three trees would meet,but im probably wrong. Love and God bless Love juditha |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by betson on Jun 23rd, 2007 at 9:35am
Thank you so much, Juditha,
for sharing your so very important messages here. I feel very fortunate to be a part of this community which benefits from your gifts. I'm wonderring if the word 'trees' is used poetically, metaphorically. Perhaps like Tree of Life or something with a strong trunk and many branches. I think a tree shape could stand for Christianity, also for the Jewish people, and perhaps for the Mayan peoples whose calendar gives the time? Not to leave anyone out--maybe the Hebrew-Christian tree is one, and there's another tradition looking for a returning Messiah about now? Is Mohammad supposed to return also? That would be wonderful, to have a true brotherhood of humankind with one spiritual leader. Thank you, Juditha, Bets |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by dave_a_mbs on Jun 23rd, 2007 at 4:07pm
Hi Judtha-
What comes to my mind is the three basic natures of reality - objects like fireplugs, rocks and physical bodies, the relationships by which these bodies map space and time with respect to one another, and the dynamic by which the bodies and their relationships change, so that space and time flow ever forward. In Hindu philosophy, these are called the "three gunas" meaning the three basic aspects of reality. Everything can be reduced to these three aspects in various proportions and so on. By perfection of these three aspects we reach a point at which we encounter their ultimate nature. Thus, we encounter the ultimate nature of the structural aspect as the unity of all creation, bound together by limitless love. When practiced as a discipline, this is called bhakta yoga. In the same way we encounter the relationships amongst everything as logic, and in its manifested form, as wisdom, direct awareness of the Creator as pure Mind or as pure Awareness and Understanding. This is the discipline called Jnana yoga. The discipline based on action and perfection of the dynamic aspect of reality leads us to the instant of Creative Emergence, and the sense of overwhelming enthusiastic joy, in which everything is sensed as the actions of the Infinite Creator as It moves through the forms and variations of all material and logicl manifestations. As a discipline, this is called karma yoga. Raja yoga is the merger of these three, the union of these three pillars of reality, and is thus a way to describe the ending state to which we arrive by practicing one or the other of these disciplines. It's the top of the mountain, where it all comes together. The state resulting from the practice of raja yoga is called sat-chit-ananda, which literally means perfection of our existence, awareness and bliss. But these are simply the three virtues from the three basic yogas, nothing new. At the level of sat-chit-ananda (usually spelled without the hyphens) we have reached the state of recognizing all existence as God, all relationships as the nature of God manifesting in that instant, and the dynamic as the actions of God as the manifestation of everything proceeds. At the same time, we cease to force our ego-identity onto the world, and in ts place, we accept that our true Self is God. We cease to be deluded and misguided, and can understand clearly that our thoughts are, in a very real sense, the thoughts of God passing through our location. And we cease to feel unhappy about doing things, because we recognize that all we do is the actions of the God-Force acting through us, as it brings intense bliss and joy. These recognitions prevent us from going back to hurtful practices, and thus liberate us from creation of nasty karmas that have to be worked out. Instead, what we have is all good, but generally is in need of development, since we are not as yet absorbed into Godhead. So, Juditha, my take on that is that you are being shown "liberation", the state of being that is in the center of the Mandala of the Wheel of Life, the seventh state of being through which we transcend permanently. (The other six states are the plus and minus states of structural reality, of dynamics, and of relationship and logical awareness.) I have a copy of the Mandala on my wall in my clinic, and I refer to it frequently as a tool in therapy. Seems like you're getting the same kind of image with respect to the evolution of your own life. PUL d |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by laffingrain on Jun 23rd, 2007 at 8:46pm
hello Juditha, are u going to the Catholic church? if so the 3 trees could also mean the father, the son and the holy ghost as trinity.
I also believe we are entering a time of peace. just can't put any dates to it. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by identcat on Jun 23rd, 2007 at 11:52pm
Bets--- my first thoughts were similar to yours. Religion Members Percentage
Christianity 2.1 billion 33.0% Islam 1.3 billion 20.1 Hinduism 851 million 13.3 These are the top 3 religions of world. Being brought up Christian--- I also thought of the Trinity. I also thought of it this way: The three top political Countries of the world, but the almanac wouldn't specify. If I take the message in a symbolic translation: Three trees may also represent three of the 7 DNA "strands" which link all human being to each other. As I understood it, everyone on the planet is related with just those 7 DNA's separating us as individuals. The three trees represent the strongest. Their roots reach down and intertwine making us all one and their offshoots would be the remaining 4 DNA's. There would be the creator who is responsible for the creation of the DNA and the Spirit/Soul which breathes life into the creation. So, we would be part of the three. Creator/Spirit/Human Beings. The three will become one. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by Boris on Jun 26th, 2007 at 2:40pm
Hi, Juditha
In connection with the message you received, you might be interested in a message described in my thread, "A warning voice from the middle East": http://www.spiritlinnusa.com/linns_forum/viewtopic.php?t=2393 This describes a "killing time" with a savior child to be born, to rescue us. There are supposed messages from Jesus being channeled all the time, some by people I know. I have a problem deciding whether to take any of this seriously. Sometimes it seems suspiciously easy to get messages from Jesus. To get a perspective, try putting into Google: channeling from Jesus. This brings up millions of listings, some of it kind of weird. This includes for instance ACIM, A Course in Miracles, supposedly channeled from Jesus, but I and a lot of other people don't believe at all that ACIM was channeled from Jesus. Love, Boris |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by laffingrain on Jun 26th, 2007 at 2:56pm
Hi Boris, you said: but I and a lot of
other people don't believe at all that ACIM was channeled from Jesus. ______ congrats to me, I did not react! haha! :) last year I would have reacted to your opinion. I must have grown. I am moving to Arizona, where you already lived once and I have decided to start some group studies on ACIM. The accent will be on the message itself, not where it was derived from, with the understanding, the man who walked here in the flesh known as Jesus are slightly 2 different things from the spirit of the man; the man is home now, merged into All That Is, able to individualize himself into a single point of focus, if he so thinks it necessary. I will teach only love in the message. that is all that matters in truth. love is what you are and I am in essence despite there are ego forces which will strive to say something different. love to you, have always respected your contributions. alysia |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by Boris on Jun 26th, 2007 at 3:37pm
Yes, Alysia, difference of opinion is part of the due process that goes on
here. It is an interesting question, whether discovering that a friend has a different opinion is going to be a problem. But sometimes a friendship is valuable because they have a different opinion. That can be part of the value of the friendship. I will be watching to see what good might come from your ACIM project. I am ready to absorb anything that might be useful. Love, Boris |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by laffingrain on Jun 26th, 2007 at 4:26pm
:) I am ready to absorb anything that might be useful.
yea, I feel like a sea sponge myself these days... :) |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by recoverer on Jun 26th, 2007 at 5:38pm
Juditha:
The number three eh? A while ago I woke up one morning and heard and saw three planets explode one after the other. The first exploded into rocks, and makes me think of the physical earth. The second exploded into fire, and makes me think of biological life. The third exploded into white light, and makes me think of light coming into the World. These explosions were very noticeable. I also had a lucid dream one night. Three times during this dream while walking from the Northern part of San Francisco to the Southern part, a big orb came down from space, I tried to avoid them, I couldn't, and each orb struck me and caused me to have a very clear out of body experience. After waking up, before I could think about what the dream meant, I heard a lady yell very loud, "don't think about it!" I was then shown two symbolic visual symbols which also said, don't think about it. I still don't know what the dream was about. Back during this time there were other occurences of the number three, but I can't remember what they were. Have't received three in a while. I have received messages stating that if somebody wakes up to Christ Consciousness, the amount of love in the World will increase. Your tree message reminds me of the below, from the Gospel of John: Scripture: John 15:1-8 1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples. In order to put the above in context, it helps to consider the beginning of the Gospel of John: John Chapter 1 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 5 A man named John was sent from God. 7 He came for testimony, 6 to testify to the light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to testify to the light. 9 The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world came to be through him, but the world did not know him. 11 He came to what was his own, but his own people 7 did not accept him. 12 But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name, 13 8 who were born not by natural generation nor by human choice nor by a man's decision but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh 9 and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth. 15 10 John testified to him and cried out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'The one who is coming after me ranks ahead of me because he existed before me.'" 16 From his fullness we have all received, grace in place of grace, 11 17 because while the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God. The only Son, God, 12 who is at the Father's side, has revealed him. It is believed that the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke were written 50-65 years after the death of Jesus. Some people say 100 years after death for John. But Don (Beserk) has written that he has evidence that John was written by a person who actually lived during the time of Jesus, which is in some ways different than Matthew, Mark and Luke. One key way is that it speaks of Christ as being the principle of God through which the universe was created. Jesus was this principle made manifest. This leads to another possibility of what the meaning of three joined trees implies that God, Christ and the holy spirit are all one. P.S. I did read, that Identcat mentioned the trinity. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by blink on Jun 27th, 2007 at 10:04am
Juditha, thank you for your message. I did not relate to it personally when I first read it but now I am reading it again and it has personal meaning for me in my particular circumstances. What I mean is, I see the reality of this prediction in material manifestation in my life.
I believe mysterious forces move within our lives, and when truth is present in the flow of our lives, it echoes truth which resides inside of us and also echoes truth which is continually present in the words and ideas of the great masters of human history. How to activate that truth in the present flow of our lives? Connect to Source in whatever way you can. Truth will be presented to you in the most delightful and sometimes very curious ways. I open myself to this Truth, from all sources and All Source. Also, Juditha, you did a reading for me a long while back. It is so gracious of you to help people in this way. You told me that the grandfather figure saw me in the woods and that I was very happy. At the time of the reading I pulled the meaning out of my life and felt that your statement had validity. But, yesterday, as I was sitting in the beautiful, unspoiled garden of a woman who was a friend of mine 20 years ago and I have brought back into my life, I felt the meaning of your words fully. I was alone, hearing the music from within the house as my friend turned up the volume while I took a break from our conversation. Her bungalow sits on the very edge of town, on the edge of a small patch of wilderness remaining protected by the state. The garden runs into the wilderness and the edges blend there. The sun was shining through the trees. I was surrounded by the beautiful ocean shells and decorated tiles and other objects she had carefully placed in beautiful patterns on the walkways. Many birds flitted about in the trees overhead, different birds flashing their colors. Butterflies of different hues flew in abundance and rested everywhere the eye looked. Heavy chimes hung from the trees. One single note, full and vibrant, gently stirred me from my reverie. Below, in the distance beneath the sloping foliage, a creek silently flowed. I thought of you and I realized that you are more than a medium, Juditha. You are my friend, and for that, I am so grateful. love, blink :) |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by augoeideian on Jun 27th, 2007 at 12:09pm
Recoverer - the Book of St. John must be one of my favourite Books :) this is my favourite chapter-
St John 14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very work’s sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. *** |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by recoverer on Jun 27th, 2007 at 12:24pm
Augo:
Chapter 14 of the Gospel of John has also stood out for me. Have you read the first epistle of John? Much of it sounds the same. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by augoeideian on Jun 27th, 2007 at 1:07pm
(sorry popping up and down like this - working late aaahh)
Yes, the first epistle of John is great. It's no wonder we talking about St. John seeing it was St. John's day on Sunday 24th :) Also, I'm sure Jan van Ruysbroeck was inspired by St. John's writings to write this - The Father dwells in the Son, and the Son in the Father, and all creatures dwell in Both. And this eternal life and being, which we have and are in the eternal Wisdom of God, is like unto God. For it has an eternal immanence in the Divine Essence, without distinction; and through the birth of the Son it has an eternal outflowing in a distinction and otherness, according to the Eternal Idea. For we know well that the bosom of the Father is our ground and origin, in which we begin our being and life. And from our proper ground, that is from the Father and from all that lives in Him there shines forth an eternal brightness, that is, in the Son, the Father knows himself and all that lives in Him; for all that He has, and all that He is, He gives to the Son save only the property of Fatherhood, which abides in Himself. And this is why all that lives in the Father, unmanifested in the unity, is also in the Son actively poured forth into manifestation; and the simple ground of our waylessness, but the brightness without limit which streams forth from it, this reveals and brings forth with the Conditioned the hiddeness of God. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by laffingrain on Jun 27th, 2007 at 1:22pm
[quote author=juditha .
This is the message There are three trees,that will meet.which tells of the second coming,rejoice in the knowledge of my coming among you once again,the time is near,hold in your hearts my loving embrace of times to come,thou will see,thou will know. _____ heres something about numbers Juditha I had in my notes: thought u might like to see it. blessings 7 runs through all material creation in our ELS. As in the various scriptures around the world emphasize 7, the 7 main or major Chakras and Endocrine glands, 7 comes up a lot... The 7 base notes in music, the 7 major colors of the rainbow, etc. Our whole body, every molecule is replaced in 7 years. In numerology, 7 is attributed to spirituality and spiritual knowledge. Why? Why all these 7's, what makes it so unique...it is the number par excellance of balance. picture: . . . . . . . three dots separated by the One, balanced by the 3 again... or in another perspective, you add 3 and 4 to get to 7. 3 is also a number of strength and balance, it represent the Trinity, the Mother--passive balance of energy, to the Father--active, Creational energy charge--and the Son which is the perfect balance of the 2. 3 represents the 2 becoming One or balanced in the One. 4 is matter, and corresponds to the 4 elements which make up our entire physical universe, it also represents the 4 directions. So the 3 of spirituality and balance combines with matter, to create the perfectly balanced 7, which is the number of Soul. 1 is spirit, 2 is division/strife/seeking of balance, 3 is the strength gained by balance, added to the 4 of matter. These added up equals 10 the perfection of numbers, and the Soul completed and back into the One... The diad of Pythagoras, and the Tree of Life of the Kabbala/ Ten more than any number represents the Christ Consciousness. What is Soul, the Son--Light/Mind which comes from 1-Spirit, but which is experiencing 4-matter... What number runs through many human things and repesents change, and change being evolution? 5, the 1 in the 4. 5 races, 5 fingers, 5 senses, 5 divisions in the Pentatonic scale.... Soul is the mediator between Spirit and Matter, and holds these two opposing forces in balance. Matter is 2 and 4 which is being balanced by the 3 to the One force... Seven is the number of physical completion, or a cycle related to Soul forces...so the sins of the father are visited upon the 7th generation, so to speak.... Numbers are hard to put into words, hard to describe...because they are Pure symbolism. This has to do with latent, and dominant genetic traits...which again are related to Soul evolution in the material. the Physical is but a reflection of Soul forces. |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by juditha on Jun 27th, 2007 at 3:50pm
Hi Boris After reading your link,i had very strongly Jesus saying to me,he will come back as a man not a child,he is telling me ,he will come to redeem the world,there will be many signs of his coming,thunder and lightning which has never been seen before,the stars will shine so brightly within each dimension of the universe,the skies will turn black and deliverence and hope is coming for love is the key,the escence of all life on this planet,there will be much destruction ,but the earth will return to dust and be renewed again,for God is ever looking and watching over us through eons of time,we all belong to the one God,for we are all part of God,we are all one,nothing seperates us,we are all the escence of God our father in heaven.
I have just written this as i have just received these words. Hi aylsia That was very interesting what you said about the three,as i didnt understand when i got the message of three trees meeting,but i understand a lot more now,and i dont go to the catholic church,i go to St peters church,which is church of england. Love and God bless you both Love Juditha |
Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by laffingrain on Jun 27th, 2007 at 4:22pm
thanks Juditha, I think its true we are all one essence and that JC's spirit can come back as a fully grown man or enter humanity however the spirit can enter humanity. thanks again, alysia he preached love thats all that matters.
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Title: Re: message this morning not sure what it means Post by identcat on Jun 27th, 2007 at 4:48pm
Blink--- that was a very lovely letter back to Juditha---- thanks for sharing.
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