:) Whenever I send PUL to someone I get tremendous mental peace.

    But unfortunately I am totally confused now because someone had told me
    that I can earn some negative KARMA if I send LOVE energy to someone.

    How this is possible ? I am sending PURE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE ENERGY
    which is absolutely good and positive. Then how can I earn negative KARMA
    for sending PUL.

    I am very new in this journey. I know many experienced afterlife explorers
    post here .

   Can anyone of you would be kind enough to respond to this query .

   I am really confused . I really want to send PUL to people . I really feel many people
   in my country desperately need it.

   LOVE and LOVE to all.

   -- Khaled from Bangladesh
 

Hi Khaled. That's probably in Tibetan Buddhist terms the practice of Tonglen you are talking off. Here's some info. from a site with links to Sogyal Rinpoche's Rigpa group who talk very clearly about it: http://www.spcare.org/practices/tonglen.html

The tendency of the selfish egotistical mind is to see it as a threat. The bottom line though is reckoned to be (if I have it right) that while you take on other's pain and suffering that this is dissolved or converted by your compassionate action into radiant wisdom and compassion which then helps both you and is also available to be radiated back to the person you are helping.

The idea being that ultimately your true underlying nature is indestructible. That the resulting burning off of ego (which in effect makes and maintains your karma) means that you actually improve your karmic situation. Put another way - the act of showing compassion burns off more karma than you take on by the act...

It certainly improves how one feels. Usually a good indicator in these things...

More info here: http://lojongmindtraining.com/

Hello Khaled:

I never heard of such a thing and it doesn't make sense. What's next? We can't smile at people?  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Well, I guess I'm in trouble. ;)

Can't suggest better than that you read the above links R. I guess the point at some level is that Tonglen or the practice of 'giving and taking' (PUL) as it's otherwise known is reckoned to help both yourself and the object of your compassion.

Can't vouch for the mechanics or its effect on others, or for it's transcendential dimensions but for sure it softens one's own attitude to others, and feels good. If nothing else it helps us to open - to drop self centredness, and conditions us to take a habitually compassionate attitude towards others...

 Hi Khaled, i don't see what could ever be destructive with feeling PUL towards others.   Source and the Creative Forces constantly feel PUL to us all and to the Whole, always.

 Where i could see possibly running into issues, is with prayer, and praying specifically for people.  

  Say you know someone who is experiencing an illness (or going through a rough time), and without their permission (especially without their Total self's permission), you pray for them to get better or for their situation to change because you feel compassion for them and their suffering.   That is a good thing, and it shows a good heart...

 Yet, being physically healed etc., isn't necessarily the "best" thing for them in the long run, as far as their greater spiritual growth (and that's always the most important thing for anyone).   This is why some spiritual teachers like Yeshua, told us always to pray, "Thy will be done", meaning the Creative forces will be done, the highest good for the individual and the collective.   It may not be the freewill decision of the Total self of that person, for them to be healed, and we always have to respect the freewill of another being if we want to stay on a path of constructive karma.

 Most of us, rarely know what that is consciously, and so its probably best to stick to a more general prayer like the above.    Now, if you can commune with another person's T.S./H.S.,  like Yeshua could and did, and you can get permission from the most aware aspects of that person (as well as asking the Creative forces of the collective), then yes go for the specific prayer.  

Hi Khaled-
I agree with Vajra. However, lets put this in perspective.

Love is the unity that brings us together. Usually it is contaminated by ego, lust, convenience etc. So PUL means that we are willing to go the extra step, beyond ego, and as Jesus put it "Love thy neighbor as thyself". Since we're all one anyhow, this makes sense.

As an example, I love my wife, which occasionally means that I do the dishes after dinner. Usually she kick me out of the kitchen to do them herself. Either way, this is love in action - making love by doing the dishes  :-)

Of course it's a nuisance to the ego self, but a joy to the inner transcendent self who loves.  It is not at all necessary to go out and get crucified to prove your love, but if you feel that this will help the world, as Jesus did, and as all the other prophets, sages, rishis and saints have felt, then take up your cross and follow them. I prefer to stay in the world and work as a therapist, personally.

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I'm not sure what negative implications would be in sending love, you might ask these persons to explain better what they mean, then make up your own mind.

if you want to send PUL impartially to the world, you can avoid any problems with ego contamination (it happens)  by sitting, palms of hands up, think the thoughts that you wish to be employed as a lightworker. you generate an energy similar to PUL that way. the surplus energy gets collected by helpers of invisible nature, they will circulate the PUL where it is needed in the world.  if you do this enough, you start getting directions where to go when someone needs what you have.

this just my opinion. what happened to me.

Thanks all for sending your valuable comments.

Dear Laffingrain ,

If I can avoid the ego thing (as you mentioned) in sending LOVE Energy to some specific person , will it be fine to do so ? Sometimes I really want to send PUL to some specific person.

LOVE and LOVE to all.

Dear AhSoLaoTsuAhhOmmara ,

You have given a very valuable advice.

But the problem is when I am sending LOVE energy or sending Healing Energy to a
specific person , how would I really know that I have been granted permission by the
Creative Forces . Whatever i will feel about that permission will depend totally on my
individual perception which may or may not be correct.

I am really pleased that so many of you have given so many valuable advices.

You people are great!

LOVE and LOVE to ALL.

khaled wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2007 at 1:52am:

Thanks all for sending your valuable comments. Dear Laffingrain , If I can avoid the ego thing (as you mentioned) in sending LOVE Energy to some specific person , will it be fine to do so ? Sometimes I really want to send PUL to some specific person. LOVE and LOVE to all.

dear Khaled and u r just as valuable here. what I do is ask about the highest good, sometimes their highest good is not my highest good and this could be hidden from me. so I have to study myself first. I ask myself what if I expect some payback on this gesture? usually u can see if u do want something back. If u do, then its not unconditional love you would be sending. so its helpful to pretend you have guides in your house and speak to them about it. for all I know you probably have guides who are not showing theirselves to you just yet. guides like to stand aways back from us. we need to figure things out on our own is the reason. so, pretend anyway. just ask this person I would like to send love to, what does their highest good look like? if you ask this question the universe will supply you an answer soon enough but might take a few days.
when I call it the universe I am also calling it helpers or CW's, consciousness workers, a term TMI gave us. we are not alone as we walk this world.

if u want a short answer, sending love entails thinking of a trait that person you wish to send love to, a trait, something about them which pleases you. think about them this way, that you are so pleased with something they are doing, or have done, or the way that they go about their business, and this thought is also practicing PUL. On some level, the thoughts we generate with another in mind are always effecting and picked up as a good feeling by the other party, even if they don't know where that feeling came from.

this my opinion. all of us get a good feeling of love now and then and don't have a clue where it came from, but we certainly wouldn't be rejecting the idea somebody, somewhere appreciates us and maybe we don't even need to know where it came from for it to to be a healing feeling. love is healing.
love, alysia

Dear Alysia ,

Thanks a lot for your valuable insight.

Love , Khaled

khaled wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2007 at 2:07am:

Dear Alysia , Thanks a lot for your valuable insight. Love , Khaled

see Khaled u r already doing it. u just sent me love. :)

Alysia said:
"If u want a short answer, sending love entails thinking of a trait that person you wish to send love to, a trait, something about them
which pleases you. think about them this way, that you are so pleased
with something they are doing, or have done, or the way
that they go about their business, and this thought is also practicing PUL.
On some level, the thoughts we generate with another in mind are always effecting and picked up as a good feeling by the other party, even if they don't know where that feeling came from. "

That's very helpful, alysia! Is it an Original Alysium? I don't think I've heard it expressed before.  It certainly solves alot of quandries for me. sort of like the far east greetings of 'I honor the kindness in you. Namaste.' (Bow, smile.) ?

Love, Bets

Bets

haha! Alysium, nice one Bets! :) no nothing about me is that original, theres an old sooth saying what goes around comes around,or u give out what u want to receive. our intentions sometimes get confused with our desires on the surface and varying interpretations.

what I noticed on this board, don't matter how intellectual we get to quote our books, to try to give our knowings away, what others are really fed is what the intentions of the person are behind the words. how they pick up intentions suprises me sometimes. people are so perceptive in this day and age to know where a person is coming from.
I think we are all becoming heart intelligent as evidenced by this posters title. that reminds me of a culture that just before they enter the kung foo fight they bow slightly to each other to honor each other, then they proceed struggle and fight.
I wonder of that gesture, that they are equalizing each other?

this was crazy, this happened in a retrieval one time! lol. I was to retrieve a real criminal; a crowd watched. we bowed slightly to one another in respect and the drama unfolded as I then forgot I was retriever until it was successfully accomplished.
the respectful bowing was as close to PUL as we might generate at the time.

anybody here get feelings of love from out of the blue for no reason? it's like high octane coming from the sky tank. all u can do is say thank u, I needed that. but sometimes u can begin to put an identity to it.
love, alysia