I'm new to the board and I just ordered Bruce's Afterlife Guide and CD's. How many of you have proven the afterlife to yourselves? And do you have any advice for a new person starting out?

I have astral projected while being aware it was happening. I have looked at my astral hands during out of body experiences. In addition, I own psychic medium books on the subject, mediums who say astral bodies talk to them.

Hard not to believe in the afterlife now.

Hi, glad you got the books and CDs. you're in for a treat.  I proved said question at age 18. nowdays I think most people don't think about proving an afterlife until someone in their family dies. but I believe a poll was taken and something like 80% of people believed in god and an afterlife. it's just the details we get confused on :)

Greetings,

Welcome!
You've already taken the best advice I could give: getting Bruce's books and tapes.  

Before Bruce's information put everything 'in order', I had no way of knowing whether all my bits of experiences were random 'brain-games' or valid.  Now I am very grateful to see how they fit in with his and others' here, and how it all fits into greater spiritual realities.
May you also have rewards from your new studies!

Bets

The existence of the afterlife has been proven to me in many ways. In order for me to not believe in the afterlife at this point, I would have to be the most stubborn being in the entire universe. Next to the word "stubborn" in the dictionary, they would put a photo of me.

I proved it to myself about a year ago. I consider Religion Idiotic and try to console people about death as much as I can.

Doesn't work out how I want it all the time but so what, I feel good talking about it.

100% Sure

I have knowen sence I was a small child. Always new that I would never die. I was even stranggely happy for them when someone passed on that I new. Happy for them to go home.

Hawkeye--- I'm sending out the pictures of Guideline plus a CD copy of the book I wrote. That should help you confirm some of the Afterlife experiences.  I new as a child, also, that there was more than "death" and absolute blackness.  Also, when I did a retrieval, I asked to help anyone.  I saw an acquaintance and she ran to her Jesus and they hugged. She gave me a thumbs up.  Within 3 hours of that vision, my mother called me to say that Donna had passed away about 3 hours ago. I was so honored that Donna came to me to reaffirm what I had already known.  She went to her belief system and I saw her afterlife.  --Carol Ann

I've always felt like there was an afterlife but I never had any outwards signs or experiences to confirm it personally until my Dad died last November from brain and lung cancer.

He began letting me know pretty much immediately that he was still with me and wanted to comfort me.  I've seen flashing and blinking balls of light a few times, I had my hair pulled one time, I've heard bumps and bangs, and he's come to me in some several dreams.  

I've never had someone close to me die and I've also never been in the presence of a dying person until my Dad.  He and I had a very close bond and even though he hurt my Mom, brother, and me with many of the things he did, I firmly believe he's been coming to me to try and say he's with all of us and wants us to be happy.  I am the only person in the family who's "open" enough to let him do this.  I feel so lucky.

I haven't had any OBEs and I don't do retrievals or any of that advanced type of stuff but that's okay because I'm not to that level yet.  Who knows -  I may never reach it.  I'm going at my own pace and this website has been an infinite source of knowledge and support.  You've come to the right place and I think your journey will really take off.  Even though I don't post all that much I'm always reading the threads and learning from all the members here.  I'm so glad I found this community when I did.  

Welcome!

Katie  :)

hi Kate I just want to remind you that you are an important forum member just the way you are, as a lot of us don't do retrievals, we go at our own pace as you pointed out and very often we don't think about the afterlife because we're too young to think about it..doing the 9 to 5 takes up all our thoughts, not to speak of the kids need feeding.
just the fact that your willing to share with the public you have contact with your dad, this is a love story for all of us to see, thats what makes people believe.
so u are important and I LOVE your family photos! (well, pictures are a thousand words) :)

Alysia,

You're so sweet - thank you so much.  I don't know what I would've done had I not found this community.  

;) Katie

KP138 wrote on Jun 10^th, 2007 at 1:02pm:

I'm new to the board and I just ordered Bruce's Afterlife Guide and CD's. How many of you have proven the afterlife to yourselves? And do you have any advice for a new person starting out?

I'm right there with you. I'm also new to the whole thing. I have recieved some things in dreams but the dreams always seemed to play like a cross between life and a movie sequence. I was there doing everything, talking and what not but I was not in control of any of it. It all just seems to happen in dreams. Out of everything I have seen in regards to the afterlife, the things I read on Bruce's site seemed to be the most logical. As far as advice goes, I'm new to this myself but you can learn a lot from the free articles on Bruce's site. The articles tell many an interesting story and its a great way to tide you over while you wait for the books to arrive.
Peace
David

Kate:

The amount of love you have in your heart is more important than whether or not you go out of body and such. I see you're taking care of children. That provides you with an opportunity to influence a couple of Souls in a postitive way. They in turn can effect other Souls in a positive way, and so and so on. I don't believe people should underestimate the contribution they make to the grand scheme of things through parenthood.

Recoverer,

Your words are so inspirational.  I thank you so very much for them.

The most important thing for me in this life is to be a good Mom.  After all, I signed up for this before I got here, right?  I realize that my choices affect everything I do and everything my children do and so on.  I'm not perfect but I sure do try.

It's folks like you who are here to remind us to hold our heads up high.  

Katie  :)

Sometimes my fear with all this newly acquired knowledge is that I am focusing too much on what happens after I die rather than on life here and now. When I first discovered bruce's web site, I was absolutely taken by all the information and found myself wanting to learn more and more. I feel like the information I've learned is invaluable, and it's helped me put so much in perspective. but at the same time, i've felt the need to "reel it in" so to say because it didn't seem healthy to me to be so focused on it.

so for those of you who truly engage in serious meditation, astral travel and all that comes with that, do you ever feel consumed by the afterlife and distracted from your life here and now? or do you view it a simply as a seamless extension of your physical life?

Hi Bird, we all have our own pace. a friend of mine stays lodged in the higher dimensions most of the time he says. when he grounds himself, he says beer does it, or maybe he just uses beer like a trigger to get grounded into C1. he also doesn't drive much, lets his wife do it as you absolutely must be grounded for driving, needing all your senses.

for me I do gardening, housecleaning, cooking, whatever tasks at hand and that is grounding for me. what used to unground me the most was seeing a precognition dream come true because it can make u feel like you're not in control when and if those things start up for you, but then you can get grounded again when you figure out how you participated in your future event by the thoughts, feelings and belief systems you carried around. then there is past life, or simultaneous other selves who are also yourself, these must be brief glimpses and not thought about constantly or it would definetely cause a crash of the identity sort.
its good to think on being balanced in all things, mental emotional spiritually, logically, all of our many facets should all have equal time.

spiritually, gratitude is a fuel which grounds efficiently as life on Earth can be enjoyable and is meant to be so. Instinctually and intuitively, you probably know when to back off and when to explore new ideas without getting too much off the deep end.

love, alysia

Hi Alysia  :)

It's the "simultaneous other selves" that is really mind blowing! That's a hard concept to grasp, especially how it manifests itself in the afterlife. I think I understand the very basic premise of it, but I knowing there's so much more. You had mentioned in your other reply to me about us being used to having bodies in our physical life, the perception that we all have different personalities, thoughts, feelings, etc., and that this is not the case in the afterlife. There was a post by a new person about his fear that he would lose his identity in the afterlife, but the general consensus was that this isn't the case.

So I guess it's hard to wrap my head around being "one" with others without a body, without my own private thoughts and feelings, yet still being "me". In earthly reasoning, it seems like a contradiction! Ok my head hurts.   ::)

Robin

Hi Bird-
With respect to Alysia's remarks about needing one's total concentration, and the question about intrusion of the spiritual world, not very long ago I got stopped and did a stint in Traffic School as the direct result of lapsing into meditation while zooming down the freeways where they clocked me at 80-90 + mph.  Alysia is right - it is a very poor idea. I was lucky to have a friendly policeman there to help me out in my moment of need - if anyone every needed a traffic ticket. :-(

However, I have noticed that so long as I am willing to allow input from extraneous sources, the entire universe seems willing to talk to me, send me bizarre messages, and a few that make good sense as well. The only trick seems to be to turn off my ego and all the inner babble and be receptive. Just because something is strange today doesn't mean that it doesn't attach to something that makes good sense - my junk sorts itself out, usually,  and most often in a way that reflects my participation in the universal activity we usually associate with the Oneness.

dave

I had a small accident a few months ago in my car too as a result of trying to bring the meditative state into normal life. Not recommended.  ::) There anyway are states where the judging mind is off line so to speak, but your awareness is fully focused in this reality....

bird wrote on Jun 15^th, 2007 at 9:14am:

Hi Alysia  :) It's the "simultaneous other selves" that is really mind blowing! That's a hard concept to grasp, especially how it manifests itself in the afterlife. I think I understand the very basic premise of it, but I knowing there's so much more. You had mentioned in your other reply to me about us being used to having bodies in our physical life, the perception that we all have different personalities, thoughts, feelings, etc., and that this is not the case in the afterlife. There was a post by a new person about his fear that he would lose his identity in the afterlife, but the general consensus was that this isn't the case. So I guess it's hard to wrap my head around being "one" with others without a body, without my own private thoughts and feelings, yet still being "me". In earthly reasoning, it seems like a contradiction! Ok my head hurts.   ::) Robin

we always keep our individuality on the other side, the whole premise on the other side is you get to keep whatever you earned. like we build character here, on the other side it just continues, the experiences, only without a physical dense body, but hey, I hear we can change our hair color! oooweee! think I'm kidding? I've read a whole lot of books and we are a pretty creative bunch over there.
merging with your group or disc though is a choice, but still the individual, from what I have learned, all that is fine and decent in that individual is what surives, the faults get slowly rectified and with assistance from loving folks.
the thing about the oneness, is that telepathy operates, where an instantaneous thought exchange happens..you have the other persons sending and you receive, and its so instantaneous that you begin to think wonder who is sending what, who is receiving what because its like a mind meld situation in communicating, but still i dont lose anything with the communication, rather theres much to absorb from both parties in interaction.

we always get the question, the fear of losing our self upon death. Gordon writes a good book describing some retrievals you might want to pick up for additional glimpses into our other home. the book is called Eternity, and how to enjoy it.  in this book he says many of those he retrieved he watched them come to their own funeral and stare at the corpse trying to figure it all out. just seemed funny to me, as it shows how hard it is for us even in this enlightened century so called, to let loose of the flesh, we get so ATTACHED that the flesh is who we are.

its just a vehicle for experience. don't sweat the small stuff. but do take care of the body while you're getting experience.
the other lives get assimiliated into your knowledge banks, it tends to blend in. our minds are expansive things.

love, alysia

oh Dave if I go into an altered state while driving I'm the opposite of you, I do 40mph and it seems I'm really flying! :) its not safe to go too slow either. the problem will arise of missing the turn off too. maybe I should install a hand in my car that slaps me every few minutes... :D

Fast or slow, there seems to be a better time to go into trance, lest the state become unexpectedly permanent. :-)

dave_a_mbs wrote on Jun 16^th, 2007 at 2:23pm:

Fast or slow, there seems to be a better time to go into trance, lest the state become unexpectedly permanent. :-)

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