I had heard that the publisher would not include certain ideas in Ultimate Journey. I remember being at the Monroe Institute at the time and there was a big mystery as to why the book was being held up (I asked Dr. Monroe himself about this). Can anyone shed any light on this for me? Thanks! I'm at jpc58@msn.com

Never heard about that.  But it's possible.  Maybe something related to sexuality ?

I never heard that either. but I'm not surprised. People in position have the power to veto contents..the gov does it all the time.

Yes, I have heard this.  I read it on Val Valerians website, I believe.  He claims there is more truth to be told by Monroe, but someone(s) do(es) not want the secrets to be known.

Maybe there is a secret document hidden in the Nancy Penn's attic  ;)

Btw, I hate to know taht information have been hidden to us.   >:(

me too PhantasyMan! :(  hate secrets!

so, ah, heres a few secrets from the book The Secret.

Gratitude is a big secret.

Forgiving is a big secret what happens to you to do it.

Roswell really did have a crash of aliens... [smiley=bath.gif]

interesting.  it could quite possibly be aliens dealing with people in power or something like that.  the fact that people don't believe in aliens despite the thousands of abductions and sightings every year is truly incredible.  probably 150 or so years from now, people will  look back in amazement that people didn't believe in aliens.  

Hi Seeker, have you read William Gammil's book The Gathering? In this book which highly resonates with me, his open style, he says there are sectors of aliens, and the ones whom spoke with Gammil were called our future selves, returning to help us through these particular times. (he had called out in agony for assistance from on high)  in addition, his group aiding his development into higher knowledge, were a hierarchy of the The Great White Light Brotherhood of which JC heads up.

his prayers for assistance were answered. I would reccommend this book to any who value the adventure and discovery of a personality like Gammil whom, even if it were fiction, he had me riveted to my seat with what would happen next and what he would learn about humanity.

love, alysia

Hi

 I have read in the book "Journey of Bob Monroe"  that Bob wanted to put dialog with himself and Nancy.  He has to remove it because it was not related to the context.

If there was something left out it most likely was because we just wern't ready for it. I doupt that with Bob's resources and as Hampton people were coming to work with Bob that there is a conspiracy to hold back info from all of us.
Joe  

Phantasy Man, thats a really cool icon you got there. gives me a contemplative feeling of something sacred. :)

that sounds logical that Nancy and Bob would have conversations left out of the book because they didn't fit the rest of the content but it really would have been interesting for sure. love, alysia

Thank you for the info Phantasyman. I have the book you mentioned but have read very little of it.  I'll look for the part that speaks about Ultimate Journey.

Phantasy Man, Does the book say "who" made him take parts of it out? I will pick up a copy when I am in VI @ RMR next month.
Joe

hawkeye wrote on Oct 19^th, 2007 at 3:59pm:

Phantasy Man, Does the book say "who" made him take parts of it out? I will pick up a copy when I am in VI @ RMR next month. Joe

I read what the book had to say. First of all, throughout an earlier version of Ultimate Journey (before publication), Robert wrote about Nancy who was very sick at the time. He did so because her illness was part of what he was going through at the time. The publisher or editor decided that these portions of the book didn't relate to the main points of the book, and had them deleated.

He also had an addendum at the end the publisher felt didn't fit.  I didn't get the feeling that really shocking information was left out. If anything, publishers tend to want shocking information included.

The below is from page 236 of the "Journey of Robert Monroe:"

"And then, while the book was in progress, Nancy's health began to fail. Although Monroe makes very few references to her illness in "Ultimate Journey," if affected him deeply and contributed to the direction his thinking was to take. In the draft that was first submitted to the publisher he introduced each chapter with a snatch of the dialogue between himself and his wife, moving in early chapters from friendly, everyday chat to acknowledgment of her illness and expression of their profound love. But for the great majority of those who would buy and read the book these dialogues would bear no relation to the chapters they headed. With one exception, they were omitted from the published version."

Also,

"Toward the end of the book he sought to include a lengthy extract from the Institute's brochure as well as no fewer than twenty-one addenda, a collection of miscellaneous items that made no contribution to the story he was telling. It was as if he was desperate to omit nothing that might in his mind have some relevance, no matter how distant, to the main text, but was unable to judge how readers would respond to this.

Progress was very slow and it seemed as if the publishers might run out of patience and give up on the project. In desperation, Eleanor smuggled a typescript to an independent editor who managed to trim and shape the material acceptably for publication."