The Renegade Reptilian Race


A group of the renegade reptilian race Anunnaki of Nibiru and Alpha Draconis (the “fallen angels” or infernals) is inhabitant between two worlds in the lower astral planes of the Fourth Dimension of planet Earth, a dimensionally instable region and not permanent for the establishment of a galactic race.  Dwelling in this place beyond the human sensorial perception, its integrants are invisible to human beings allowing them thus to be able to work “behind stage”, as the puppeteers on a puppet theater, in the temporal or permanent possession and the manipulation of the “sleeping” humanity, that is, who lives in a drowsiness of the material life, and to act in the earth governments through cunning and unscrupulous human agents.  Due to the proximity to third dimension they can manipulate and feel this dimension.  Popular wisdom calls these beings, “demons.”

There is room here for the observation that the reptilian race is one of the most ancient alien races of the galaxy, spread for many universes and with many variations.  They are creator beings experts in genetic manipulation and they practically created the Earth humans.  A great deal of our DNA is reptilian.  And a great deal of the star seeds incarnated in this planet for the awakening of the Age of Aquarius is of reptilian star family.  Christic Reptilians are part of the Ashtar Command and are under the authority of the Cosmic Christ represented by Lord Jesus Sananda.

The reptilians herein referred to are a group of fallen-from-grace beings, some galactic criminals that refused to reform themselves and follow the ascension of their brethren of race, and instead, they persisted in their crooked way.  They do not obey any galactic laws nor cling to any protocol.  They are an astute and highly wicked minority within the galactic races, herein referred to as infernal or satanic beings, which followed their leader Lucifer or Satan.   They have a dark past of destruction of worlds and of galactic wars before they took over by force planet Terra or Shan.


I was just wondering if this is just some whacko person who believes in this crap.. Or is this person right?? I think demons are just non existent and illusions..

Whacko?  Crap?  Did it ever occur to you that there are millions of people who think this website is whacko and crap?  And, you along with it?  I have no idea if any of that post is true, as I haven't personally experienced it.  But, if you believe in the power of consciousness, and that we create our own reality, it could be true.  I guess the real question is, does it matter?

Tempestinateapot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 7:41pm:

Whacko?  Crap?  Did it ever occur to you that there are millions of people who think this website is whacko and crap?  And, you along with it?  I have no idea if any of that post is true, as I haven't personally experienced it.  But, if you believe in the power of consciousness, and that we create our own reality, it could be true.  I guess the real question is, does it matter?

Jeez sorry...

While I can see the point in Tempestinateapot reply I have to say I agree with DaBears, its this kind of thing that relagates all spiritual believes to 'new age nonsense'. If you read that post it reads like the plot of a bad sci-fi movie, the kind that goes straight to video for £2 in the local junk shop. Maybe its true, maybe it isn't but sometimes the truth really should stay hidden ;)

DaBear, you don't need to apologize to Tempest. She deliberately says things to piss people off. That's her game because she's so enlightened that she just can't stand herself.

You don't have to play this game, but go ahead if you want.  She won't let you have any satisfaction because contrariness is what she lives for.  

It's supposed to teach us all a wonderful mind-blowing lesson.

I've actually heard much better teachers along the way during my life, and I certainly don't go around telling people how incredibly enlightened I am like she does....but it's your choice to give your power away or not.

love, blink

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You don't have to play this game, but go ahead if you want.  She won't let you have any satisfaction

Ah, the truth comes out.  You want satisfaction.  The satisfaction of seeing me run off this forum, the satisfaction of proving me wrong.  You don't want an open exchange of ideas, you want to be right.  You don't want to discuss various beliefs, take them out and look at them in the blinding light and see if they hold up.  You just want this board to stay a group of people who will echo your personal beliefs.  Why are you so challenged by what I say?  I am one.  There are a number of people here who echo your beliefs.  Why do you feel the need to silence me?  You've given just as good as you've gotten.  Only, you cloak it by bringing up PUL at the end.  By the way, just in case you are interested, I've been warned by several people about this forum since I came on.  Apparently, I'm not the only one who has challenged what you believe.  And, I've never claimed to be a teacher.

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DaBear, you don't need to apologize to Tempest. She deliberately says things to piss people off. That's her game because she's so enlightened that she just can't stand herself. You don't have to play this game, but go ahead if you want.  She won't let you have any satisfaction because contrariness is what she lives for.   It's supposed to teach us all a wonderful mind-blowing lesson. I've actually heard much better teachers along the way during my life, and I certainly don't go around telling people how incredibly enlightened I am like she does....but it's your choice to give your power away or not. love, blink

K gotcha I don't feel like having a pissing contest with her so it's all good. Thanks for being courteous to me.

I actually feel for Tempest - she asks, if there are Reptilians - does it really matter?  This is a profound question.  There is a form of enlightenment found across many religions, that centers on the unity of all things.  When you realize that we are all part of a bigger picture, and that our dichotomies (black vs. white, good vs. evil, us vs. them) are part of a belief system of separateness, then it causes a major belief system crash in any individual.  I experienced this on the board here, when engaging in a dialogue on one of the older threads here with Kyo.  Kyo had argued, quite admirably that truth was relative - thus right and wrong, good vs. evil, was to his description not absolute truths.  There is something unsettling about this moral relativism, however.  

Why do anything, if we are all part of a great unity, and are not really separate from each other?  The person who asks this quesiton, may be quite earnest in their quest.  I have found however, that this reflects an incomplete understanding of the unity of all things.  This unity may be understood, but it must be felt/known in order to understand our strange nature of being individuals and yet part of a seamless whole.  Dave once described a patient in his practice who said "I am just a droplet of water in a vast ocean, yet somehow I also remain that individual droplet" (to paraphrase).  We are ourselves and all is one at the same time.  In this setting, inaction or saying "does it really matter," is

This is the existential dilemma found in the Bhagavad Gita.  Why take action at all?  Why should anything matter, if "I am everything/I am nothing?"  The god Krishna comes down from heaven in the Gita, and Arjuna, a nobleman asks why he should fight in a giant battle about to ensue, when thousands of his friends and relatives will likelly be killed.  In his "enlightened" thinking, it made no sense.  Krishna explains that even if you are aware that you are in a "game," as an individual, there is such a thing as "right action," and that inaction is not the divine path.  

I applaud Tempest for ridding herself of hindering belief systems.  I think the issue here is that one can get lost in the limitless possibilities of thought creating reality, and then perhaps believe in nothing (out of concern that you are following a belief system) or in everything (moral relativism).  The thing is - we are creatures of thought, and by our nature beliefs.  You can rid yourself of some beliefs, but inevitably new beliefs come in to replace what you considered to be hindering beliefs.  

What you find, when you delve into this area enough is that love (PUL) and ethical action (called right action in buddhism) are a natural response to experiencing the unity of all things - not inaction.  Not saying that everyone is right and wrong, everything is true and false, or questioning if any of it really matters at all.


Matthew

Well, we could argue that sanity is relative.  Remember the days when people feared sailing off of the edge of the earth?   ;D

FFT,
Steve

I see nothing wrong with what Temptest wrote.  Nothing at all.  It was a very good responce, in fact.  Blink, are you mad because she said many people think this website and the people on it are wacko and crap?  Because I garuntee this is true.  My guess is that you have strong negative feelings towards Temptest that are interfiering with your perception.

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There is a form of enlightenment found across many religions, that centers on the unity of all things.  When you realize that we are all part of a bigger picture, and that our dichotomies (black vs. white, good vs. evil, us vs. them) are part of a belief system of separateness, then it causes a major belief system crash in any individual.  I experienced this on the board here, when engaging in a dialogue on one of the older threads here with Kyo.  Kyo had argued, quite admirably that truth was relative - thus right and wrong, good vs. evil, was to his description not absolute truths.  There is something unsettling about this moral relativism, however.

I agree with Kyo.  I'm not sure why you think this makes me a sad person, however.  The belief crashing thing (that's funny, I'll have to borrow that sometime)  :)  is amazing.  When there is nothing left to judge, when you understand that all we are defending is a temporary human ego, that the actual truth is that there is no separation, then love takes on a whole new meaning.  It's not dependent on beliefs, emotions, or the latest book you've read.  It brings peace, it brings unconditional acceptance, and it's outgrowth is that you see yourself in the face of every other person.  Arguing is silly, but it can bring about a greater understanding.  Human love is an emotion, and it will blow away like the very dust that we are.  The abiding truth is that we are One, we cannot be harmed, and the outgrowth of that is a desire to help others, while still recognizing that they really don't need help.  They are just as indestructible and as much a part of the One as the tiniest blade of grass.   :)

Blink, are you mad because she said many people think this website and the people on it are wacko and crap?  Because I garuntee this is true.  My guess is that you have strong negative feelings towards Temptest that are interfiering with your perception

A lot of people in a lot of places are wacko.  However, intelligent people with a point they actually want to convey, as opposed to just rabble rousing, refrain from insulting people they are trying to convince.  When someone presents evidence that they either don't really care whether someone listens (by being rude), or aren't bright enough to figure out how to get people to listen (by not being rude), the obvious response is to assume they don't care if you listen and they probably aren't any brighter in their reasoning than in their presentation.  So if their point is good, it gets lost in the shuffle.

When you tell the other guy he's stupid, and he knows he's not, your reputation for discernment kinda flies out the window.  This holds even if the other guy's evaluation of his smarts is a little lacking.  No one gets respect for their intelligence by blatantly insulting other people's.  If you're going to insult someone's smarts, do it subtly.  Then the only one's who get it are the smart ones, and they know they're smart, so you're good to go.

Goodnes.


These demons seem to bring out the best in people, don't they? :-/



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Blink, are you mad because she said many people think this website and the people on it are wacko and crap?

Huh?  Ok, now you guys are really confusing me.  I didn't say that.  DaBears asked if the person who wrote the article about Reptillians is "whacko" who believes in that "crap".  I merely pointed out that there are millions who think anyone on this website or who believes Moen's books could be called the same.  I include myself as one of those whacko's who believes Moen's books.  It appears someone is reading things into my posts that just aren't there.  

Tempest,

You and I are saying the same thing about the unity of all things.  The main difference, and the reason I thought you were sad, was that for some, a relative truth, the loss of dichotomy, leads to a paralysis and relative inaction.  Sort of a "does it really matter" phase when you go through the looking glass and beyond notions of good and evil.

Action is necessary in the physical world.  Thought and action are linked.  Thus an understanding of the unity of all things in no way removes you from action (the main point behind my last post).  

Love does take on a deeper meaning then, as we act out of love understanding the true nature of our unity.  But if we intellectually understand the concept of unity, but we don't feel it and live it, then we may be sad or paralyzed saying in effect "I am out of this game of physical reality and dichotomy."  Then nothing matters (as in your comment about the reptilians).  To me that is sad.


M

I am currently working my way through the Seth material, and came across the following. I thought it rather profound regarding manifesting. This is the entity "Seth", who is speaking through Jane Roberts:


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You create the world that you know. You have been given perhaps the most awesome gift of all: the ability to project your thoughts outward into physical form. The gift brings a responsibility, and many of you are tempted to congratulate yourself on the successes of your lives, and blame God, fate, and society for your failures. In like manner, mankind has a tendency to project his own guilt and his own errors upon a father-god image, who it seems must grow weary of so many complaints. The fact is that each of you create your own physical reality; and en masse, you create both the glories and the terrors that exist within your earthly experience. Until you realize that you are the creators, you will refuse to accept this responsibility. Nor can you blame a devil for the world's misfortunes. You have grown sophisticated enough to realize that the Devil is a projection of your own psyche, but you have not grown wise enough to learn how to use your creativity constructively. Most of my readers are familiar with the term, "muscle bound." As a species you have grown "ego bound" instead, held in a spiritual rigidity, with the intuitive portions of the self either denied or distorted beyond any recognition.

From "Seth Speaks, The Eternal Validity of the Soul", by Seth and Jane Roberts

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Love does take on a deeper meaning then, as we act out of love understanding the true nature of our unity.  But if we intellectually understand the concept of unity, but we don't feel it and live it, then we may be sad or paralyzed saying in effect "I am out of this game of physical reality and dichotomy."  Then nothing matters (as in your comment about the reptilians).  To me that is sad.

What I think is sad is that so many people are making assumptions about me that have nothing to do with the truth.  I came here because I haven't found anyone on the site I normally post on who is familiar with Bruce Moen's books.  I was looking for a group to talk specifically about Moen's findings.  The first thing I see is post after post of people disrespecting someone I know.  I was trying to let people know that this may be something different than what they personally know about, and to be open minded about it before making a judgement or offering help.  Instead, it turned into an argument about beliefs.  I find that extremely sad.  I clearly don't belong here, so I wish you well.

Yes, Tempest,

It is clear to me that there are difficulties with communication on this and the DK thread.  DK was not attacked by many posters - read the initial posts and subsequent responses again (I did).  Initially, Recoverer mentions that DK may not be as oppressed as she thought because of the length of her initial posts.  Admittedly, this was a bit harsh, though not demeaning, but immediately, she (DK) signs off and says "I should have known better."  What follows is honest, heartfelt advice from Recoverer, Augo and OOB dude.  Some of it is Christ related, some isn't.  All of the advice is given in a warm manner.  Blink then says love will win out over fear - again out of more then ten followups to DK, there was only one initial somewhat sarcastic comment about the length of DK's post.  You then have several posts from Spooky, Blink Dave and others who are then trying to help DK.  What they are told by you, is that they are missing the point.  That she has tried all these various routes of conquering her demons and did not want to hear about clinical routine help or christianity (who could have known she did not want to talk of this?)  But still there is this tone started by DK and then you that the board and forum are somehow hostile and uncaring  (please note, I have just summarized the first 2-3 pages of DK's thread, ommitting some discussions on christianity, but deliberately not ommitting any disparaging remarks I could find - there were none).  

If DK or you want to start a discussion on a topic, or help, please feel free to post.  However, reading through her thread, it becomes obvious that there was no unloving or hostile response.  People were expressing themsellves, and overall 99% of the words were respectful of DK and her situation.  Your comments then, that the members on Bruce's forum did not live up to his PUL message from his texts and writings were way out of line.  If you can find any other comments in the first two to three pages of DK's thread that would justify your generalization about all of us, please let me know.  I for one would be the first to admit when I over-react in a thread (and I hope you would too).

I did not decry you as a "sad" person, but I meant to explore your comment "does any of it really matter" when DaBears posted a real question about the Reptilians.  To me the "does it really matter," sounded sad in its tone.  I calls 'em like I sees 'em.   That does not in any way mean that I consider you to be a sad individual.  In any event, your comments were not, mean-spirited to me (although others may have seen it as such).  My last two posts were meant to explore the nature of our understanding of the unity of all things and the subsequent need for action in the physical world.  I have thought about creating a new thread to cover this topic, as I believe it is an important one.  

I stand by my earliest comments to DK and you, which is; to state an opinion, engage, and ignore any disagreements thown your way (or the occasional immature comments).  You can find other forums where no negativity is posted - Linn's forum is one of the most loving forums I have had the privilege of posting on....but here at Bruce's there are discussions on topic that you won't find quite anywhere else.  

Matthew

The Reptilian supporters say one thing, Seth says another thing, Master A says blah, blah, blah; there are so many contradicting theories that can be found in the spiritual supermarket. So many people trying to make a buck at the expense of others.  

I remember reading a person's posts on another forum. First she read about one kind of demon and supposedly got possessed by these demons.  After ridding herself of these demons she read a book about another kind of demon, and supposedly got possessed by these demons.

I believe it is better for people to figure out for themselves what is true, rather than reading what everybody else has to say about it.  If they don't figure out what it's all about while in the physical, so what? They'll have plenty of time after their body drops to figure it out.

My feeling is that the most important thing to do is to get rid of limitations and grow in love. If you do this everything else will fall into place. If you spend all of your time trying to balance the various contradictory theories that exist, all you'll do is tie your mind into a bunch of knots.

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You can find other forums where no negativity is posted - Linn's forum is one of the most loving forums I have had the privilege of posting on....but here at Bruce's there are discussions on topic that you won't find quite anywhere else.   Matthew

AMEN to that dearest Matthew.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Hi With all love and respect here,that Linn chucked me and Deanna off for nothing accusing us of something we did not do,theres a law that says innocent till proven guilty,i dont think that Linn has heard of that,she told false truths about us, i love you all,but i and Deanna dont feel the same way about that linn.

But i will say that Linns board does have very loving souls on there.

Love and God bless      Love Juditha

Juditha, I know better. ;-)

Tempest, if you want to discuss Bruce's books, have you been to the Book Forum?  It's there for anyone to discuss all of Bruce's book plus Robert Monroe's books too.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)