My husband's grandson committed suicide last night..he was 23.

We got the call around 2 am..just a few hours ago.  They live in another state.  We all attempted to go back to sleep..and I had this visual of someone trapped in ice and snow, not sure if its related or not.  I tried to move the ice away, but couldn't see anything..

My husband is naturally in shock.  His first thought was "he's really gone..I mean his soul."

I told him I didn't think so..he opened up a bit, and asked me if I thought he was "free" now.  I told I thought so, when in reality...I just don't know where he is.  I did assure him that I did not think he was in hell, a place I don't believe really exists.  Husband was raised in a strict pentecostal-type church, though he left it years ago..at times like this, it all comes back.

Shirley, I am so sorry for your loss and for all who are affected right now by this. I will hold you all in my heart with love. I will try a few meditations over these next few days to take a look, and I know others will also.

My personal belief is that those who commit suicide go to a special area where they are treated in some special ways...a healing place. Otherwise, and possibly additionally, a very fast reincarnation. I'm sure each circumstance is unique.  But, of course, I don't claim to know for sure.

Again, you and yours will be constantly in my thoughts.  

love blink

Dear Shirley,

I too am saddened for you that you and your husband have this loss. Your connection with many loving souls here and elsewhere will help you through this.  If you sense confusion for the time being, that is natural so don't be alarmed.  We will find him when his time is right.  May our prayers help with healing for you all.

Thank you for giving us this opportunity to help.
Love, Bets

Shirley,

What a loss for your family. I am so sorry you all have to go through this. There is nothing we can say to make it any better but Bets is right. You are surrounded with loving souls here. Many of us in our own way will be sending you love, prayers, meditation..whatever it is we have to share. May this in some way help you to stand tall during this trying time, and the strength to support your husband.

Luckly you have a lot of friends here who can assist you in finding your answers when the time is right, so you will gain peace of mind. We stand beside you, we will not let you fall because we love you.

My love and good thoughts go out to you and your husband.

PUL Stacy

Sorry about your loss. Where is he? Well, read this...

http://home.iprimus.com.au/terencem/questions_and_answers_from_abbi.htm

www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=65&BulletinID=268#9

Take it easy.

Sorry for your loss of a loved one! I too have lost a loved one as well to suicide... She was a cousin of mine and only 18.. My gma asked the priest, if she was in hell and the priest said I don't know.. Luckily I chimed in and told them what I knew from my afterlife research on books and scientific afterlife studies on the internet!! I also, don't believe in hell.. I just believe hell is just a big crappy illusion some people have to go through... Like the tibetan book of the dead says, it's all a part of your mind playing the tricks on you..

Also, in my gut I had a feeling she went to a special recovery hospital in the afterlife.. As, what I have read is where most suicides go too.. Yes, I know some suicides go to a grey foggy eerie place as well... But those suicides are mainly people who do it for selfish reasons like to get back at someone for causing them pain.. Or people who go bankrupt from gambling and commit suicide..

So, basically if he was suffering depression for a long time... He will go  to a place where he will be loved and taken care of!!

My mom had a dream about my cousin who commited suicide and in the dream she was a lil girl and she went to her daddy in the dream.. He died of cancer awhile ago... I bet ya that dream was showing my mom that she was in good hands!!! :)

So, I will pray for your husband's grandson!! :) I am sure he is in a better place though!

Oh shirley...

I wish you peace.

Lucy

This brings up the question of what the consequences are for suicide in the afterlife.  If karma is the universal law governing all consciousness, then there must be consequences for the suffering a person makes their loved ones go through when they choose to end their life, as well as possible consequences for ending their earthly journey earlier than it should be over.  

Perhaps he will have to help others get through tough times in the afterlife to the extent that he made his loved ones suffer.  Or perhaps he will have to eventually suffer an equal amount of emotional turmoil that he put his loved ones through.  I believe he will have to reincarnate into another body on earth to finish what his original purpose was.  Even if his purpose, as well as all of our purposes, is simply to experience an earthly life and everything that comes with it, he obviously did not learn much and took the easy way out, so I think he will be coming back.

Sorry for your loss.

I was just listening to a discussion of this topic about suicide and what happens in the afterlife.

Here is a link to a website and book dedicated to it. Hope it sheds some more light.

http://www.pamelaheath.com/suicide.htm

Well..we are back from Louisiana and the service..it was strange, to say the least.

I kept hearing his name being shouted, in my head.

Hi Shirley-
I regret your loss. From what you say, you've remained in touch. The sense of being trapped and "frozen in" sounds like a typical post-suicide scenario. Sort of a cross between how it feels and what we do to ourselves about it.  

The voice trying to contact you by shouting his name similarly sounds like you remain in touch, so I think you'll do just fine melting the ice and snow. The warmth needed is love, of course, and also forgiveness for himself. We tend to be very hard on ourselves, and it's difficult for many to accept that God is infinitely forgiving and loving,  

As far as I know, the only "punishment" for suicide is that we get to start over where we left off, and in between death and rebirth we often are very severe in self criticism. But love can thaw the glaciers. Maybe he'll even be back in your family to start over.

PUL
dave

  Hi Shirley, sorry to hear about this, this is a hard thing to deal with on many levels for others and the person themselves.

Hi Shirley I send you and your husband my love and prayers,even though he commited suicide,he will still be in the world of Gods divine and everlasting love,and he is in a hospital in the spirit world as he will be looked after by loving spiritual nurses,who will listen to him and try to help him to come to terms were he is now,and his family will be there with him as well ,who have passed into the spirit.He will be given the choice of whether he wants to reincarnate back to the earth plain or whether he wants to stay and help other troubled spirits.

I read of this man who commited suicide because his wife had died and he could not live without her,and he is reunited with her and was given the choice to reincarnate,but he decided he wanted to stay with her

Love and God bless            Love Juditha

All my love to you and your family Shirley.  I agree with what Juditha said, may he be at peace and in comfort.

PUL
Caryn

Thank you all..it does get a little easier each day.

Dave..I agree.  I think the ice has melted..and there are others who crossed over earlier to help him, especially an uncle who died at 18 and his greatgrandmother, who passed in 1992.

I got a brief flash of her with his arm around him..but he was still quite confused.  I've seen her many times before, a very gentle and loving person.  The last time I had seen her, she was smiling at me for painting her Oldsmobile a bright red..(it was originally a turquoise)  

My step daughter had an experience the day after too.  They were all going somewhere in her car, and for some reason, she had a child's carseat in it.  She offhanded remarked that BJ would ride in the car seat.  Her daughter got in but had opened the other door for some unknown reason..and Paula hollered back "BJ! Close the door!"

About then, a gust of wind came up and the door slammed shut..she was shook up, to say the least.

If someone has decided for a suicide it is the same like dying under normal conditions. There's no different. Out of a higher perspective every death is a suicide.