I can't see where to go to get any of the posts for Saturday's partnered exploration to the Monroe Crystal. Can someone guide me? Thanks. Vanayssa

You guided yourself I think Vanayssa lol, lets just post it here!

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Hi PElers,
here are my impressions from Saturday mind journeys:

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1st session:

I put on some nice outdoor out-physical clothes.

In front of me, to the left, was a group of people, and to the right one person who took something from the ground at the right side, then turning to the left and gave it to the group, several times. I couldn't see what it was that she (I guess it was a woman) gave to the others, it seemed to be something to greet them, maybe flowers, though I only saw grass there. Also to my left was another person, a bit distanced and observing.

I think there was Alysia and we hugged and spun around each other in the air. Maybe this was a sort of dance; I thought the nonphysical for partnered-dancing is cool because it's possible to step through each other, that makes a whole lot of possibilities for new dancing steps/figures!

Someone else talked to me, I guessed it was Steve. I then fell briefly asleep, or half asleep, and in dream state he told me when I had been a monk, I wasn't kind to him, I somehow treated him badly.

With Bets I was in a scene where we had fresh air and a slight wind, there were horses and we were going to ride. I felt young and it was exiting.

I saw a woman with images of planets around her and said: "Ah, the Lady of the seven planets! Oh wait...now how many planets have we presently? Anyway, hello Augoeideian/Caryn!

I saw a person and together in one moment I got "Blink" and saw the color violet, a middle-violet, not too deep, and not too whitish, a balanced-violet if that makes sense.

I greeted OoBDude, Daiseymae and Vanayssa, and I had a short conversation with Dude, but I can't recall what it was about.

I looked for Phantasy Man and had an impression of a big something (about 4 persons size) made of fog.

In between I often was carried away by the wind or something, also I frequently had expansion and energy flow sensations, and the feeling there was "growing" something at my back, at the shoulders.

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2nd session:

I came walking to the PE party and said hello.

A young woman talked to me, she was not very tall, about 1,70 meters/ 1yd2ft7in; she had black shoulder long hair and smooth yellowish skin. I couldn't figure out her name.

We, the group, looked at the crystal. The question arose, where we were, and what the further surrounding may be. I started talking/thinking, it was as if I would talk in my mind to a person who asks questions:

"This seems to be Roberts Mountain Retreat nonphysically, Romain's photograph showed that crystal I think; yes, it seems not to be at the Nancy Penn Center. It's probably Focus 27; The Park, picknick area is near. You want to see the entrance? Let's see...now there is this sort of gate...it's more two big poles, and the newbies are immediately directed to their places; a normal gate wouldn't make much sense that would be a bit too crowded...the >teleported< newbies blink one time when they arrive at their new places; all over the area there are these lights. No one can get lost, because everyone has been and is still connected to their higher self which has been and is of course present here all the time.
This idea Newton told of, that everyone lets a certain portion, or amount of oneself in the nonphysical when incarnating...I don't know if this is true in this way, I have no informations about this. But in any case, we can read it as a description of the unconscious, that everyone who incarnates is not conscious of all one is, insofar left something behind. But without this what we are not conscious of we could not exist, our thoughts are based on a lot of unquestioned basements we couldn't figure out while on earth, it's like the physiological processes running within our body we are not aware of, but though they are working and necessary.
Focus 27 is very large. Over there, far away is the area where people are preparing for entering more and more the regions of formlessness and light.
>>Can I meet my higher self here?<< I: Well yes, remember this place here so that you can come again here easily. When you're here, wish to meet your higher self, or maybe easier, to meet someone of your higher self. >>Can you arrange something?<< I try. I think of meeting a helper of mine and bring one for the asking person. Mine appears with someone, hugging my helper and so on, and the other one starts a conversation with the person who had asked."


I went to an "energy station" of Focus 27 to have a nice shower; I had headaches.


Spooky

I tried to be there..had a hard time focusing.  I brought something with me..something to show all.  (no flowers  ;))  

I'm still waiting to see if anyone "saw" it..I didn't feel a good connection, sort of fuzzy..but that's how I've felt lately anyway, disconnected.. :-/

I know something did happen last night but I ran into a click out issue.  It seemed like a case of being unable to bring in any associated images for the experience.  In addition, I woke up feeling somewhat disturbed like I perceived something that was hard to handle.  "The perception was related to a person or entity" is the impression I got. In other words, the experience possibly could not find any associated memories to provide recall.

If you have any experiences that my help me dig into the subcon, please do share them.  That was very wierd but has happened before.   :-?

Edit:  Still, I remain encouraged.  I will make another trip tonight.

Hi

First try, mid afternoon:

I was definitely anxious about the experience: not about what could happen, but about if I’ll succeed or not.  

I had hard time to relax and focus. That was the Quebec Winter Carnival and there was  a lot of trumpets outside.  

I was finally able to enter a deeper focus level, but I just feel nothing was happening.  I feel it was not the right time.  


Second try:  late evening

I went in my preparatory process.  It was much easier than before.  I didn't really know how to get in touch with the group, so I asked for help.  Nothing really happen.

I forgot to open my heart!  I made the exercise describe in Bruce’s book and asked for help again.  Also, I had in mind the name Laffingrain and her picture (as a target).  I felt moving.  I didn’t see anything, just felt my focus changing.

After, I felt the presence of 3 o 4 persons (I don’t really remember).  I was able to partially see those persons as blurry purples shapes.  I tried to communicate.  I felt that someone was able to “hear” me, but I wasn’t able to receive any his or her response.  I sent love to the group and I relaxed for a while before returning to the physical reality.

yes Vee, you did exactly as I wanted anyway to make a new thread! these PE threads can get really long so even though you were confused I think spirit told you what to do and its just fine. I also made a thread with the date of the PE and we can use that one too. Vee, maybe you could put the date at the top to reflect Feb 3rd 07  just in case we do more PE's, this for archive purposes.


Spooky I have been doing new dance steps lately in my living room, I would expect that I do dance and frequently imagine this on the other side and even my deceased hubby told me I do dance as this other person on the other side. so not surprised that we would dance at the PE, as I certainly wasn't in the mood for a lecture at focus 27! lol.
oh, I did remember you flipping in the air, but this is so normal for me to see this with you, that I didn't even write it down. I never see you walking and just one time saw you sit down.

you saw horses with Bets, and I saw carousel horses with Caryn...hmmm. bit of a stretch there, but thought I'd mention it.

with Blink I saw color pink and you saw the more purple color, of lighter color. pretty close.

u saw something big with PhantasyMan and I saw a big ball crystal he brought up from the earth, you saw a big foggy thing..so hmm.

Shirley did u bring candles of many colors, straight candles, regular candles like tapered ones?

PhantsyMan, 3 of us so far are getting pinks and purples. pink is for love, purple is for transmutation process, although we can get more detailed on colors and what they mean.

also pictures are good to use as a target so you are right on, anyone's picture will work btw.

thanks for what we got so far everyone. love, alysia

Hi everyone

I didn't see the crystal or anyone.  This is a difficult exercise!

Starting Saturday morning (had to be early so couldn't relax then) I kept the visual the crystal in my mind.  At midday I meditated for 45 min placing my intent on the crystal to go there at my night time. I concentrated on the names here and sent PUL to everyone.  I did get that warm feeling like butterflies in my stomach - quite strong. At night I relaxed myself willingly myself to go to the crystal thinking of everyone and sending PUL.  Then I fell into a deep sleep, it was a wonderful sleep without waking up until morning!  But no conscious connection.

Early Sunday morning I set my intent again - here I had a quick flash of sitting in a McDonalds type restaurant with two people - one was very tall and the other was very short! but not sure if this was a connection - it was a 1 min flash.

So, I think I must practice some more in this!

I enjoyed your replies ... Shirley I was trying to concentrate on what you had lol with no success!  Alysia and Spooky you such old hands at this just by the way you immediately settle comfortable into the routine - i can see.

Hello Spooky!  Planets .. cool - and Alysia carousel horses lol round and round  :)

If I could just take this opportunity to say - Spooky some time towards the end of last year - I had this visual :
It was in a hall and a lot of people were sitting around in a circle.  Spooky you were in the middle of the circle and had one of those large Indian (peace) pipes.  I went up to you and you handed me the pipe - i took a puff and went back to sit in the circle.  I recognised you for being who you are - without wanting to spell it out but someone in rank.

Anyway, nothing to do with this last weekend but its been on my mind for ages and good to write it down.  

I do need more practice and think these meetings will help.  Also, I am thinking - if I see someone is it my perception of how I think that person is or is it really the person manifesting themselves infront of me.  I also thought how will I look to other people? .. so I set my intention on wearing a white dress!  I see you also choose your clothing apprearance Spooky.

C.

Saturday Feb, 3 PE

I started preparing a few day prior by stating my intent to my guides, sending my love out all over the place, trying to make emotional links to a few members of the group. I also practiced breathing. I was trying to relax by being prepared, if there is such a thing.

5:30 pm. Thought I would take a tub to relax. No hot water at all, weird. So I thought I would practice my breathing and relaxing. I was planning to join the group around the crystal later in the evening when things were quiet. I practiced for a few min. with my eyes closed, I could still hear the tv in the other room. With my eyes closed I shifted my focus to the back of my head and I was off. It didn't feel like a pull this time like when I am "kidnapped". Instead I felt like a slow moving missle moving forward into the blackness. It was black for awhile, then I say the stone. (I notice now that I set my intent on the group at the crystal but the crystal looked like a stone, though I could feel energy). As soon as I saw the stone I was on the deck. I was looking down because I was having trouble walking so I thought some white ked's would be helpful. I looked at my feet and there they were and that helped some but I was still draging. The next thing I noticed was my dress. It was a chiffon type material, sheer yet totaly opaque at the same time. Simple cut empire bodice of soild light blue, the attached shirt was a soft pastel floral patern on the same blue background. It is hard to describe the floral patern because each flower seemed to flow amongst each other as if they were fluid, even bluring the edges a little bit as they touched and seperated. The flowers were varing shades of light blues and whites with pale green leaves floating between. My hair is very light golden brown about waist length, possibly with a blue ribbon. I will explain the ribbon later. I was still moving in a draging motion somewhat at this time.

The me that I just described to you is the me that I see when I am dreaming, or daydreaming. The me in the physical world is older with shorter hair. When I need playtime in a hurry I close my eyes and go somewhere beautiful. I ice skate, dance dance dance, run through feilds, and even sometimes fly. I have been doing this since I was a kid. Could these be more than fantacy escapes?

Sorry back on topic, When I finished admiring my dress I noticed the floor again. Redwood I think, planked in a circular fashion with large rounded bolts. The bolts added a nice patern to the floor because they were close together toward the center and fanned out as the planks lengthened.

All of a sudden I am coming toward the stone and open my arms wide and tilt my head back llike you would to catch the warm rays of the sun. I did not feel warmth as heat but warmth inside of me. Energy was pulsating all around, I could feel others there but was still somehow in my own space. Perhaps I was just experiencing things at my own pace. I was charging but got distracted by the view. I walked toward the edge (with more ease but still slow). I felt a little nervous knowing I was moving toward the edge (I have a mild case of vertigo), then I noticed a sturdy steel railing with three bars and good welding. I checked the welding. I felt comfortable but didn't remember seeing a railing when I first got there. I went to the top edge and grabbed the top rail and looked out in all direction that I could. I even looked down as far as I could, it was all black nothingness but not at all scarry.

I started to turn back toward the stone and this is when I saw the blue ribbon wisp past my left eye as if stirred by a breeze. Just then something came up on me. The first person I noticed with any clarity was just a head. It was a male with dark hair wearing a black cowboy type hat with either white or silver trim. But this hat was much to small for his head. Dark eyes and a very red mouth. Either he was coming at me with his mouth open or he was wearing red lipstick, well it could be chapped lips..but red. It was a very friendly face, happy, playful. I stayed calm even though he came right up into my face, maybe trying to get my attention.

I was still turning toward my left to go to the stone when I say Alysia's face then her whole body coming toward me on my left. She was grinning from ear to ear. When I saw her my eyes widened and my mouth opened in a gasp. I was frozen like this for a second. Alysia started laughing. I think partly because you were delighted that I made it and partly because I was like a deer caught in the headlights, it was funny so I started laughing too. Then we hugged. I was kind of dazed, Alysia either took my arm or hand and was leading me toward the stone. That was when I noticed all the other people. I could not focus clearly enough on any one individual to get any discriptive details. Only the floating head and Alysia. I could see forms of people standing in a circle around the stone. The floating head took his place a few people down the line from me on the right. He is very jolly. I like him. Alysia was still on my left and we moved into position to form a human ring around the stone. We closed the circle by holding hands. I don't know why I use the phrase "closed the circle" but it seems to have some sugnifigance. The mood shifted as we all focused. I knew we were all focusing on our next moves and it did not feel unusual at all. I was sending out my intent to learn more about my higher self as Alysia suggested in her post.

I wasn't in the circle anymore. I could not see or persieve anything around me except for myself standing before me. She was the same me that I was in the circle, the same me that goes skating and dancing in daydreams. She* was standing before me looking so sweetly at me with an I have a secret smile on her/my face. Her/my hands were clasped loosly at hip level. She/ I was so peaceful, gently smiling and gazing at me. An unfelt breeze came up and was gently blowing our hair and dress. (yes I noticed that I just changed the pronoun from her/me to our, I will leave it that way it's a step I think).

Just then one of my cats steped on my solar plexus and I was back, just like that.

Sorry it is so long.....Stacy

Hey gang, something happened to part of my post. On the botton it is written in red. I did not do that. Also at the begining of the red it says "She*daiseymae", what I typed was She/me.

Any thoughts?  Stacy

Daisymae, with regard to the red font appearing in your post, I recall when I was doing the Gateway course with the tapes, at home, from TMI, often I could swear totally that what was being said on the tape was definitely not what was being said the last time I listened to it. I listened to many of the tapes several times as I was obsessed with learning this stuff at that time (I have kind of relaxed since then, or given up somewhat, don't know which) and I know that this happened over and over. I mentioned it to people at TMI when I was at the campus version of Gateway and the instructors said that often does, in fact, happen. No one could offer an explanation. Your red font appearing is a similar kind of event. Maybe we create realities just be re-experiencing them or re-thinking them...no that can't be right. Anyway. Just offering that memory as something that tossed up on the shore. Vanayssa

:) that was fun Stacy!  I suggest the red part seems to be the most important part of your exploration so even if it were a slip of the fingers, it still has meaning that i did want everyone to meet their own higher self, this was the most ideal thing that could occur and apparently you've already been doing this as you said since you were small.

I remember the happy feelings of this PE, but that is not unusual for me and I remember standing beside you but I suppose the strawberry ice cream I saw you with was just a prop at this time. maybe it will mean something later. the important thing is just to write it down like we're doing.

In my PE we did close the circle by holding hands also.

Caryn thanks for joining us here, it can be difficult but you demonstrate willingness which will yield something I'm sure! your perceptions and interpretations will be fluid and change, and theres no wrong or right of it at first, it is just practice, but now and then we do get some really good stuff going on here.
we basically have to search for the commonalities but that cannot happen unless a group continues to put the effort of non efforting out if you know what I mean.
and it's easier with just one partner so we have our work cut out to find those common places, but its fun! well I think it is as we can help each other just by writing it down.

:)

Wow Stacy how's the red writing!

Thanks for your encouragement Alysia.  I agree with you it's finding the commanalities and it is through effort.  Would it be a good idea if someone has an experience with another person in the group but outside the PE to write about it? Again to find the commonalties - normally I find the best experiences I have are when they are not planned - but saying this I think the planning is important for discipline and rountine.

I look foward to the next one!

:D  This is great, you all,
to have so many people at the PE meeting!

Congrats, Stacy on getting technology to be sensitive to your spirit! You say it even changed your pronouns to nouns/names ?!  So it's editing by knowing your intent--wow :D  !  I've had some amazing web experiences where the search engine like google seemed to find on its own what I'd been wonderring about, but never with a smaller unit like this site.

I was waiting to go right at 8 PM (6 board time) even though time doesn't mean anything. However about 15 minutes early my head got all tingley like it does sometimes when I'm trying to listen to several conversations in a large group of people. So I felt like alot of people were already interacting and that I should go on over.
The group was just a few yards beyond me, when the scent of a very clean, clear soap or perfume, one I remember from childhood, was evident. I associate it with meeting Bruce or Alysia at a previous gathering, but I'm not sure who. So I was glad someone I knew would be there.
I thought I'd look for the guy with the crown and the blonde young lady (hair in between the lengths Stacy mentionned) that I saw in a preview a few nights ago (previous post), also to see if spooky had really cut his hair that short.  :)  But I got interrupted by a feeling that the top of my head was opening up without my involvement, like something wanted to peek in there. (That's what I get for standing out on the edge, I guess.) It startled me so  :o  that I abruptly lost the images and was back at home.

Oh, and if folks are shy about IDing themselves, many have their own websites where you can go and see more photos of them.  Maybe they'll remind you of who you say.  check out their profile page here.

Glad to hear that you all had a good time!
Thanks for starting the thread, vayanssa!

Love, Bets

Hi Vanayssa.  This is off topic so I'll keep it short.  I have things change on me at times.  Usually I chalk it up to a faulty memory or not paying attention.  But it happens often enough that sometimes I think we actually materialize or create a slightly different experience or situation.  Strange stuff. Rob

Hi Bets,

"It" changed the first pronoun in the very begining of the red. I reread the sentence before posting so I know I had my pronouns correct there. I don't think I had anything to do with the red writing, I didn't do anything but hit post but it could be just a glitch. "It added the daiseymae part, which could also be a glitch because it is my online name. Each one alone could be a glitch but put it all together and you have to ponder. I on the other hand changed the last pronoun without realizing it until typed in this sentence...."An unfelt breeze came up and was gently blowing our hair and dress." I decided to leave it as typed as it may be a big clue!

Thanks for your input Bets.   Stacy

Rob Calkins wrote on Feb 5^th, 2007 at 11:39am:

Hi Vanayssa.  This is off topic so I'll keep it short.  I have things change on me at times.  Usually I chalk it up to a faulty memory or not paying attention.  But it happens often enough that sometimes I think we actually materialize or create a slightly different experience or situation.  Strange stuff. Rob

hi Rob I have a theory..lol, dont we all?   but I firmly believe we are the creators of our reality in conjunction with our unconscious or call it higher self without making higher self an unreachable phantom.

in this theory I see myself setting myself up for adventures. I see that I like to surprise myself. i see I have fun with myself this way. so this may have something to do with what you said above, in that we create a slightly different thing or experience than our expectations which may be like being creatures of habit.

alysia

I have an idea to type the same pronouns again in a post Stacy and see if our system is doing it. although I believe the red thing may have been your guides doing it, this board will sometimes change words as it is programmed so we are not allowed to type certain words, for instance if u want to say the word b-i-t-c-h  the program will spell out pregnant dog...HAR!  don't u love it?

but I would be curious if you can produce the same pronoun glitch. the red type I'm reasonably sure wont reproduce.
I'm equally sure we have guidance on this board and throughout our lives.
love, alysia

This is sort of a solo sidetrek I did on my own but I am sure there are relations to this exercise.  The ending may be as if I was offered a gateway to reach our gathering place but it could be anything.

Laying in bed, I decide to try and make contact with the Monroes once again.  [For your information, when I read Bob's book "Journeys Out of the Body", something changed me.  Suddenly, I was now having my own out of body experiences like I was living a version of Bob Monroe's account.]  I must of made contact for sure because their PUL assistance -- or me locking onto some energy signature in relation -- enabled me to become distinct from my body.  Either way, I got the power I need to make my voyage.

The "Wake Up as I Sleep"
I slide out of bed as if I had a normal body and aimlessly float-walk out my door.  I wander from the confines of my astral home and float southward into the familiar black void.  With my previous experience, my anxienty of being suspended in the void is greatly reduced.  I see a red light-beacon float by, but I miss the opportunity to check it out as if I have elsewhere to be.  After floating for maybe ten seconds, I emerge on the east end of my astral house and find myself in a familiar place.

You Are Now Entering: A Twilight Zone
The place is based upon physical world objects I know about but they are scattered across the complex-yet-flat landscape in as place where it is always twilight with a deep blue-violet sky.  Some of the objects in the landscape are oil pumpers, trees, a coastline with some boats, and some square buildings with no immediately recognizable purpose, all placed in a haphazard fassion yet with a sense of organization.  Come to think of it, this world feel like a wilderness of thought-forms laid around a campsite I went to when I was younger.  It is very fun to think about.

Inside-Out Tower:  Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Wonderland
I decide to jump through the ground for a change in dimension and sure enough, a huge (rationalizing) hole appears to swallow me up.  Even though it goes dark again, I know the tower/pitfall is very large in diameter (as if 100ft) and that there is an infinite feeling to it.  After slightly wondering where to get off, two diamond windows appear and I see sunlight comming through to light up the twilight sky.  I float over to the window which has bird's perch on it (more rationalization) and peer through a diamond-shape window.  I behold a ground made of clouds that terminates maybe 30 feet from where I stand, a twilight sky surrounding it all and a basket-like gondola that I know would take me some place special.  (I speculate it would take me to the group or some place more important to my discoveries)

A Secret Passage
Standing on the perch, I notice a secret door appear that will take me outside to the godola where I can row to a special place.  (Somebody knows that I really love secret passages.)  I rationalize a bit and wonder how I can get across the gap in the pit to the embossment that represents the hidden door.  I decide to grip a beam that goes around the tower, and handwalk to the passage door.

I open the door and end up inside a plant nursery like at Home Depot.  There are numerous species, but I don't inquire into them because I want to get to the gondola.  I enter a secondary nursery room at the end that holds the door to the floating gondola. (I call it a tram in the OBE.)  Before I can get to the gondola, I get an irrational thought that I left too many doors open in my mind so I decide to go and close them. Another part tells me not to worry about it; possibly my logic says this it is just a dreamscape.  I notice that somebody is in the main garden center.  They talk to me as if to say something but I wake up before I can talk back or enter the gondola for that special place.  

I did not get the feeling the person was intruding; it was like the person is a friend of mine.  Their build was sort of chubby and I my best idea of the face would be Hispanic.

Much TLC,
Σd

P.S.  On my next trip, I will go straight for the gondola and take it to it's destination.

Hmm..interesting times..

What I brought was a picture.  I've taken up oil pastel painting and painted something from one of our trips..I was hoping to share the "place" with everyone..ahh well...maybe next time! :)

Shirley wrote on Feb 5^th, 2007 at 5:32pm:

Hmm..interesting times.. What I brought was a picture.  I've taken up oil pastel painting and painted something from one of our trips..I was hoping to share the "place" with everyone..ahh well...maybe next time! :)

This is interesting, because I am currently enrolled in an beginner's oil painting class at my college for a similar reason.  Since I am good at typing and writing, some illustration skills would be a nice compliment should I ever want to illustrate what I write.

Sorry this was so long, I did not do this the way you all did it, and I will do much better next time :'(. However, I will split it up so it is at least easier to read. And the usual disclaimer...I make no legal claims that this is really a meeting at the Monroe Crystal and it may be some sort of strange mental aberration my brain engages in, but I like having you all in my life now and I will make like this is the real thing, just to keep you from leaving.
So here is what I got, next time it will be shorter and to the point.


I see one of those picture frames where the picture is in the centre of a yellow daisy, with big petals forming the frame. The pic is of a girl, looks like a teen or young woman, smiling happily, pretty girl.

I see someone, a young woman, a different woman I think,  with her sleeves pushed up, her forearm is bare, she is leaning on her computer or some books or something, her right arm stretched out across something, her head is resting on her right hand and just relaxed there. Someone is sitting across from her in a straight chair, wearing a light coloured, somewhat rag tag woollen sweater, a young guy, I get the name Ennis or Innis.

The crystal itself is flashing on and off appears to be charging itself up for some particular purpose.

This is kind of silly, but one minute I see a teacher sitting behind a desk, her glasses are a bit slanty, the old fashioned kind, she is smiling, and now she is replaced by a little cream coloured stuffed rabbit, a toy rabbit, who is wearing an upside-down daffodil on his head for a hat, the yellow petals are around his face and his ears, really cute, he is pretending to be a teacher behind the desk.

I see cartoons like on tv, someone has a mouse, a cartoon mouse by the neck, shaking it around, like Tom and Jerry cartoons.

Boxes of apples, I can smell them, they smell great, cartons of boxes stacked, full of beautiful rosy apples, the kind of crates made of thin slats, shallow boxes, stacked outside a warehouse on a loading dock or maybe on someone's porch outside.

Great big beautiful old tree in the yard, the kind that often has a swing hanging from it,

Well for some reason I am being shown how a tree's shape is so much like the shape of a nuclear bomb exploding, they both have a column going up into the sky and topped with a mushroom shape. Like a maple or elm tree, that kind of shape.

Now here is alittle girl with a cute plump little face, her hair is parted in the middle and pulled tidily away on both sides with a barrette, white and blue, on each side at the front, hair pulled back, can't see how her hair is at the back. She is sitting outside at a picnic bench just talking and enjoying herself with others.

There is the family having a summer picnic at a campground by the ocean, all the usual, buns, wieners, mustard, marshmallows, Mother has dyed red hair, short and thick and fluffy, fairly slim woman, busy buttering buns and things. Her hair is really quite red.

Now there is a young man who may be with that group, he is disabled mentally and physically, he is walking around, has a kind of sticky-up crewcut, has a great big smile, enjoying himself outside there, his arms are out in front of him in a kind of circle, his fingers are moving a lot, that particular disability we see sometimes, very happy and feeling very safe and included in all the fun.

He is wearing a checkered shirt, grey/white, black/white maybe, grey gym pants.

Crates of chickens, white plump chickens with bright red combs.

There is Mr. Rooster.

I see some colored balloons.

There is like a grandpa older gentleman, sitting at a table, wearing an expensive suit, the suit has a stiff white shirt under the suit, some kind of tuxedo maybe, suit is very pale, pale green, white flecks in it, expensive suit.

He is giving thanks at the table.

I don't know if that is a birthday cake or a birthday gift but a white square package with a beautiful violet colored ribbon around it. There is a young mother with a really sweet little baby wrapped in a blanket, sleeping with its little head on her shoulder. She has strawberry blonde hair. Looks like the girl in the daisy frame pic at the beginning.

An image of Queen Elizabeth II on her throne with her sceptre, ermine trimmed robes, crown, she is far far down a long carpet, I am looking at her from a long way back.

I see a woman who looks like Alysia. Maybe it is. Just a quick flash of her.

I am getting a smell and atmosphere of a night school classroom.

I see the explosion of a bullet through a mass of something, like at a shooting range, this is practice, I think.

I feel a strong inclination to go close to the crystal, it is so beautiful and I kneel down on the ground beside it and lean against it, both palms resting against it, resting my forehead and face on the crystal. Nice and cool.

An image of goldfish or a fishpond, maybe koi.

Someone in a long white dress, or gown, maybe a nightgown even, hanging right to floor, cotton or something, she has strawberry blonde hair, looks like she is focussing hard on something. Might be the same woman again.

I see a wooden puppet, then a golden retriever dog, sticks his nose into whatever is going on, wants to participate.

Frankenstein's monster...ok this is getting too bizarre unless I am seeing someone's tv somewhere. Trying to focus on the crystal.

Yellow spring flowers. A very beautiful bouquet of flowers, in a vase sort of fan shaped, flowers spread out in it in a fan shape, very pretty. Also a vase with a picture of an iris on it.

And there is a cheerful looking woman wearing a bib apron, white, like in a cafe kitchen, nice and clean and she has brown hair cut below her ears, sort of straight and a bang off to the right, a lovely big smile, glasses maybe not sure, tidy looking, a big pot of something she is stirring. Slim, in her 40's or 50's.

She is talking concerning Christmas food, what we eat then, the kinds of things, the mince pies, Christmas pudding, maybe I have bumped into a food channel.

I seem to be getting sent a whole bunch of love right now, I feel a big blast of love, causes my eyes to well up with tears and I choke up, (sniff) I feel like crying, a wall of love like a tidal wave just pouring in at me.. very very nice to feel so connected to someone out there, thank you so much. When I read your postings today, I notice a couple of you sent out PUL, thanks.

There is a hand with a nice leather glove on it, a woman's hand, holding a white plastic bag with something special in it, a gift for someone, she wears a nice dark brown full length coat.

Here is a romantic young couple kissing under a pretty, old, gnarled, moss covered old tree, this young man, clean shaven and brown-blond hair, dressed in a suit, a girl standing very close to him, their hands clasped together, engaged in a long meaningful kiss, she is quite a bit shorter than him. Lovely picture they make.

There is a maple syrup tree with little buckets on it. There is the young man again, he is approaching me and is reaching into his breast pocket to offer me, I think, a business card.

He has a pleasant smile, young but not naive, a shrewd young man. He can see me very clearly, this is weird. We are standing among the maple syrup trees, little buckets on the trees.

He is standing there in his suit, lights up a cigarette, just standing looking at me, maybe he is a ghost who frequents this maple syrup farm and recognizes I am out of body.

On the other hand, maybe he is one of YOU, were one of you guys kissing your girlfriend a few minutes ago ( around 7 pm  PST Saturday)

Back to the chickens, these are little red hens, she is standing up on her little hen house roost just giving someone what for. Buck Bluck, Bluck.

Gotta get back to the crystal.

I am at the crystal, an older man approaching the crystal, walks with a cane, grey hair, grey beard, short and stocky, dressed in a rusty color shirt or sweater, wears slippers, going slowly toward the crystal. He seems to be thinking about Bob Monroe.

Well there is a house and the house has a red asphalt shingle roof, I think, a nice big house, the top half of the house is a soft sort of buttery pale yellow and the lower half is spring green. Got a big verandah porch on it on one side. In the distance across the plains from the house, a tornado on the horizon, may not be coming this way though. Maybe I am in Kansas.

Someone is curling on the ice, with a broom. I have to stop, this is probably not appropos anyhow, time to stop.

Vanayssa

Hi Steve: you said "I decide to jump thru the ground"

this was surprising to me, that I saw you jump into the ground.

folks, whenever you are doing these explorations and you feel something surprising happening, i think it's a clue you have a genuine hit.
I'm taking credit for a hit!!!!! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Vee we are just beginning to scratch the surface and you are doing really well. I wonder if the picture frame had anything to do with Shirley?
and I think Shirley has strawberry blond hair.
also Kate here is young and has a baby. her picture is on another thread.I can word associate with just about everything that you wrote down, but not sure I should do that.

oh well, why not? most noteworthy, personally, I have been thinking of taking up ice skating.

I have another dream to get myself some chickens...and theres a rooster here in town across the street. not sure if you were inside my mind or not.

ah...we have a golden retriever over at my daughters house. Maggie. I kept her with me for a year. the dog has to have it's big wet nose into everything. :)

it is probably I am getting older and have experienced a lot. I made a goldfish pond myself, but that does not mean you saw mine. I'd probably have to have a picture from you to see.

I'm glad you felt the PUL, it seems to be getting stronger.

I have an idea who the young man is with the bride but I won't mention his name, he is very intelligent and gets about out there and a member of the board.


btw, I'm very serious to ice skate, and you just gave me an idea with the broom, if I take a broom with me I can use so I won't fall down, until I get my bearings on the ice!


:D

Hi people, thanks for telling!
Some comments:

Alysia,
yes it was a good feeling over there! Think about it, you had a dance partner and could step right through him lol! (Not to talk about instead of stomping on your feet stomping through your feet; but you enjoy most dancing on your own if I recall right)
Carousel maybe related to moving planets, as Caryn writes often about planets.

Augoeideian / Caryn,
to imagine to get out off the physical clothes and get something pretty on is a good method to establish a distance to the physical world, and feel home in this other place, as a sort of entrance to further explorations.
Your visual of me in the center of a circle with a peace-pipe is interesting; I can't recall this particular scene. I remember around Christmas I dreamt to be in a hall like an auditorium maximum at a university, but I wasn't in the center. In my younger and wilder days I used to smoke a pipe with some, well, herbs in it in a round of friends and I felt sometimes very special, me in this group, as if we were in a new world full of meanings and possibilities. Another thing I remember is, one of my guides I met and whom I think they are members of my soulgroup, or higher self, showed me a "movie" when I asked him about his lifetime on earth, and he was a sort of chief or leader of a group of native south americans, or hunter/stalker, someone who could lead some of his folks through the jungle, and he is nearly always looking earnest, with a sharply cut face, brown, black haired, very masculine, quite a leader type.

Daiseymae,
maybe I picked up your intent to learn about your higher self and started this lecture?
I also mostly see "me" from outside when I do these mind journeys. Mostly that me is more or less like me in the physical, sometimes it's an eagle or so, but what happens seldomly is that I look that me in the eyes, when that happened one time it was a very odd feeling. It's I think important what you do. It is the way to accept at least the possibility that this is a real process, that there is really something happening. Maybe it is the way of your higher self to tell you that you are your higher self, and your higher self is you.

Bets,
I also smelled a parfume-like scent, it was one or two days before Sunday, when I went to bed for sleep. It was intense and clearly foreign enough to let me think there was someone visiting me.
I have not cut my hair recently, but one or two days ago I stood in front of the mirror and thought that it is time to do it. Well meanwhile at the crown of my head there is not much left to cut anymore, nature's way...


Haven't read the last posts, will do it!

Spooky

Wow..and just wow!!

Ok, a few things...

I have a fish pond, two goldfish, but they are large.  They were feeder fish 4 years ago, but have really grown, now about 6-7" long..
Close up of my fish..couple years ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/SJudy/pond11.jpg

Saturday, as I was doing various drawings, I was really intent on drawing a koi pond.  I looked up images, walked outside and stared at my fish..and even started to draw, but didn't.

My hair is a reddish/brownish/blondish..(L'Oreal calls it Lightest Auburn ;D)

I work in a kitchen..I'm a school cafeteria manager and wear that white apron every day.  (I'm not slim, though..but out there..I can be! :D)

I should also note that the various industrial objects in the dream are items related to my home town, Huntington Beach, California.  They relate to some of my strongest symbols I associate with the town.

Edit:  I will need to look deep into your replies to see if I can spot any hits of my own since my experience seemed independent.  I will make note of anything I find interesting.

All TLC
Steve Σd

Thanks everybody for checking over my "viewings" and I am glad there are a few apparent "hits". Only thing is, we were supposed to be at the Crystal and I don't think I was, I was just wandering around looking at some of you in your day to day lives, is what it looks like. I wonder how to get to the Crystal like you all did. How did you do that??? Vee

you said you touched the crystal Vee, but you don't think you were there?

maybe you were looking for a different experience. maybe it will be better next time.

I just imagine the crystal in my mind's eye, then I ask myself what is going to happen next? then I am in certain habits once there...like flying, dancing, holding hands, gathering around the crystal. it is purely an exercise.

once in a while doing the usual exercise of which is habit, I will have feelings. these are important. Like PUL. that is not something u can imagine. so once in a while an image or symbol will be interjected into my habitual images and if accompanied by a "surprise" feeling, then I may have myself a hit but not until another person will verify it.

its ok to ask for the guidance.

nobody much responded if I had any hits on the other thread I made, so i might be a big failure! :D
doing these explorations can lead to a more reality based type exploration because one is extending the willingness to set an intention. and there is power in setting intention as we have guides who watch this board and our intentions that are good ones. I've had enough hits though that I don't care about the misses anymore, but we can always set our minds to do better. my only virtue is basically persistence.

Einstein said (think how clever that guy was!) he said "imagination is more important than knowledge.

It's been a pretty good first time for some of us. it can get better if we want.
love, alysia

Oh yes, I forgot, I was touching the crystal. That's right. I must have got there all right. One of the women who posted, said about wearing a white dress. I wondered if the woman I saw in the long white dress (nightdress?) was her. I must go back and read and see who that was. Thanks for your helpful comments. I will practice through the week, going to the crystal just for practice, why not? It will be interesting. Vee

One additional item before I go to my sleep:  Since my avatar does not contain my mug shot, here is my picture in case that may tie into something:

It is a link, in case you do not want to see it immediately, and wish to do some more exploring, and want to be surprised.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/SteveEDUgraff/Dscf0027-1.jpg
(Isn't it interesting that this is 27'th picture I have taken on my camera card.)  :o

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Alysia,

I was just rereading the posts and taking some notes and you do have a confirmed hit with Spooky. Reread his post on page 1.

Stacy

Alysia,

I guess I made a mistake on the hit...sorry. I reread your post on the other thread and I thought I read it there as well..guess not.

In response to the ice cream, I think we have a least a partial hit here. When I am at my happiest I love to make comfort food from scratch, especially goodies. So I think you made a connection with me on some level. Besides that's basic in forming new friendships, you learn the other persons likes and dislikes. I think we're on the right track.

I've given some thought to my "daydreaming" escapes. I have been doing that for a long time but Sat. was different. Where I daydream is much less dimentional. I'm thinking that it may be that was because it was created with a 3 yr olds eye. It will be interesting to see now that I realize...what can I do with it now? But that will have to wait I have more pressing mysteries to solve.

Stacy

You guys have been busy!  Nice to read it all - you guys are an inspiration and thanks for the reply Spooky - very interesting the description you mentioned of the Chief is what I was sensing.  This happened around late October.

It is a strange thing though - to say I saw you, you looked like this and this however the person who was seen is almost like an outsider looking in to what's been described of oneself!  Neverthless, I think any information or sense from someone should be spoken about for us to curiously understand not only one another but ourselves.

In the meantime i had a good night sleep again last night so not much further from my side!

:)

Good morning,

Vanayssa, you probably have another hit with me. I was named for then-Princess Elizabeth, and at the PE I had to leave before I got close to the group. Congratulations to your props and costuming department though; they did a fine job on me, as I don't feel queenly and usually, lol, don't carry a sceptre!

Love,
Bets

Bets!  :)

Vanayssa, I've just been reading through your psychic (surely?) account again.  I must be the white dress one because I did 'put it on'!. The guy under the maple tree is interesting hey.  And Shirley's fish and cooking and Bets .. wow.
I think it's brilliant especially the way you have accounted it - very well done.

I have a feeling you are bit tired after that? So hope you have a good rest and thanks for sharing your experience -awesome.  

Caryn

Thank you all for reading everything and letting me know some of it was "real" (whatever that means...) It is scary to post the stuff you see, right? because you feel like you just imagine it all and how ridiculous to play these games. But when I read about Bruce's PE's in his books with his partners, and how they really interact verbally together and solve problems together in the NP, that of course is my GOAL and I dunno if I can ever get there. It's the POWER, you know, of knowing you can manage yourself by choice and free will, in the NP, that is such a Powerful thing, and I WANT that. So far, all I can do is shut my eyes and see things happening and report them. A far cry from my goal...but each day I practice and share with all of you out there, there is a chance I will break through. Some of you who read this site, even those who don't post to it but just read it, I suspect some of you really can whiz around out there by choice and free will, and if you have any secrets you discovered that broke you through...please puleeze share them with the rest of us...Thanks again for every helpful comment, I am thrilled to make connections. Vanayssa

[quote author=spooky2 link=1170610936/15#22 date=1170722540]Hi people, thanks for telling!
Some comments:


Daiseymae,
maybe I picked up your intent to learn about your higher self and started this lecture?
I also mostly see "me" from outside when I do these mind journeys. Mostly that me is more or less like me in the physical, sometimes it's an eagle or so, but what happens seldomly is that I look that me in the eyes, when that happened one time it was a very odd feeling. It's I think important what you do. It is the way to accept at least the possibility that this is a real process, that there is really something happening. Maybe it is the way of your higher self to tell you that you are your higher self, and your higher self is you.


Spooky,

Thanks for the obsservation. As to your last sentence, that was actually my first thought, but then I told little Stacy Ego to go to her room so I could think in peace. I keep coming up with the same conclusion as my first instinct, but I don't realy know what it means yet.

It didn't occur to me that the eye contact had any significant meaning but it does in most aspect of life..so..good point. Thank you for that one. That definitely goes into the "Higher Affirmation" pile.

I have already realized that there is no turning back now. I still have moments of doubt that is why I have the "Higher Affirmation" pile. Because of the feedback I get from you good people I am able to move along at a rather rapid pace and be comfortable with what is happening "with" me.

I had an interesting experience which directly (I think) relates to my Sat. experience. My abdomen chakra became active late Sun. night. A child Stacy came out and boy was she angry. Part of her anger was directed at our guides and she would not even talk to them. Obstinant child she is. It was amazing how they, I, we got around this. She is not done yet. I am a little tender but all in all it was a good experience.

Thanks for your input Spooky,  Stacy

DaisyStacy, thanks for your observations, its nice to know we are all studying this PE so well to see what we can sift through and learn from.
I still think I did have a hit with Spooky, partially it's because I've been knowing Spooky a long time here on the forum and it outpictures in the PE's. is the reason I say it's so much easier to get hits when you focus on just one partner or two, as you form these unseen bonds in the mental/emotional areas.

I had a single exploration partner one time, she in Australia, and the rewards were immense as we actually explored each other's experiences in lengthy chats every single day, just two women bonding as friends caused the PE's to come about.
I suppose I'm a little over ambitious to think 10 or 12 of us could produce the same high quality verifiable experiences as just two people can. but I don't know, its up to us to see what we can get out of these undertakings so I'll shut up :)
what I'm saying is it could be a slow process as there's so many of us, but I do see some positive things happening here nonetheless and my heart is with each of you that I am not being my usual fluffihead self or too ambitious.
theres basically no guidelines, unless everybody wants to read Bruce and Monroe again or for the first time, or similar books. we are of necessity have to produce new guidelines, each of our imput will do that I assume. cross fingers

I'm gonna go look at Steve's pic. I can get buzzes off pics...try that sometime!
subtle little feelings..maybe drifting in from dna? lol....dna is information pellets. I just made that up...hee....

well this is a great board..nice swimming in the pool with ya'all...go ahead splash around if you want.  :D  (hey, theres no sharks here! oooweeee!!

Alysia,

Don't ever shut up!. We need your input.

As far as being over ambitious; far better than the other way. We can take your high ambitions and fine tune them into something that works.

I used your idea from an earlier post regarding pictures. I focused on yours for a few days prior to our "trip". This may be the reason "you" were the one who could get my attention. I was in a slow motion, kind of dazed. When you took my arm or hand and led me to the group I was able to join you all at your speed. Does that make any sense. I don't know if that was actually you or my guides were giving me something safe and familar to work with. Either way I am happy with it. I have had some amazing results because of it.

So my dear, chin up, eyes open and ahead...we are explorers in the last frontier. Or is it?

Stacy

Vanayssa:

The teacher who changes into the rabbit with that kinda hat, pretending then to be a teacher, as well as the disabled but happy person reminds me of the head with the little hat and red lips, the jolly joker daiseymae / Stacy saw.

In this PE, after my helper came bringing one for the other person who had asked for contact with her higher self, my helper, a woman, and me hugged as we mostly do, stepped into each other and lingered there for a while; AND I'm a cigarette smoker lol, but I can't remember that I ever smoked a cigarette over there. You say he wore a "suit", can you tell the color of it (or is a "suit" always black?)? (OK this may be too streched: I sometimes sing the blues classic "Little Red Rooster")

Q.: "He seems to be thinking about Bob Monroe."
Steve did. He's not that old I guess (right Steve?) but who knows how we appear to others over there.

Q.: "Someone is curling on the ice, with a broom."
Daiseymae / Stacy told of the she/there who often skates on ice.

Yes, Bruces PEs are incredible. But he put with his experiences also his partners' reports in his books, and there are also differences; often it seems they saw the same things, but translated them differently into their minds, and in other cases they were at the same spot but focused on different things.

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Stacy:
Yes you could just put attention of what is happening between you two when you look each other in your eyes. I had once a situation in meditation where I stood before a woman (so not a version of me, or it was, but in a wider sense) and I didn't know what to do. That went on for a while and she took out a mirror so that I saw me. After a little while the bells rang in my mind and I just knew I had to be proactive, express what I want- I wanted to go to my higher self, and she was a sort of gatekeeper, I simply had to go and embrace her and so I went over the step.

That is cool you saw that little you-girl, you can solve more easily some issues that may be unsolved now I guess, better than do it the analytic way I think (faster in every case) and hopefully your abdomen center does or will feel free.


Spooky

Stacy, Spooky, Steve, Bets, and most all of you on this board are generating some really quality loosh... :)
that counts for something you bet!
ok, I'll not shut up! but truly, my guides tell me when to talk from what I get from you all, so I'm really the follower type person but I love it!

Spooky I'm so glad you're here. I take a lot of leads from you. :)

Thanks Spooky, for those notes, and the answer about the suit color is, it was a summer color really I guess, maybe would be called really pale taupe, not grey, like taupe but not dark, a really nice suit, cost a good dollar and made of light flowing kind of material, he looked very cool, well to do in it. I feel much encouraged to continue on and try to learn how to adjust and change and expand the whole experience more. Well, that was a great PE introduction for me, maybe the Superbowl added Power to it!! Vee

Speaking of the Loosh, I have discovered that it is an energy source that one can actually put to their own use.  For example, I mentioned that seting an intent to receive "Loosh/PUL/Super Love" and sending it back assisted me into the O.B. state where I was able to have some powerful experiences in abstract worlds that relate to myself.  I have found my own proof that this magical energy is an effective powersource and fully intend to use it without any limited beliefs hindering me.

As a matter of fact, Laughing Rain, there is an "electric" energy that has been circulating in my body every since I have set asside my old prejudices and just let new ideas be.  It is very possible that you are reading it and more.

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Steve Ed.

Steve I'm very happy to hear you speak of PUL or loosh as energy source. I have been wanting to share my physical experiences of a surge of loosh/PUL/electric energy as having entered my body so that I have more muscle control (I wasn't deficient in this, but I'm trying to convey the power also of getting beyond self limiting belief systems)

it makes you aware in a physical way, as well aware of your other bodies, mental, emotional and spirit, higher self. this stuff. lol....

appears to be involuntary..have to resort to poetry, but I hear you. I knew something was happening in your world and celebrate with you. it might be more explainable to say that we don't exactly use it, so much as we allow it entrance more consistently, to be in meditation of the highest good?  
happy journeys everyone!

Just saying thanks for the comments about Loosh energy. Something to add to my current experience of the Home Study course, where I am learning about PUL and Heart Intelligence. Vee

hi Vee, we probably could talk about loosh a long time. just a note, each cell of the body appears to be aware of itself....or I mean loosh is life force. then it permeates the cellular structure, then the mind is aware of each cell of the body operating in a cohesive manner, it appears to be that stubbing my toe is a thing of the past..... :D

Thanks for that, Alysia. Though I am in the middle of getting ready to move, I am spending a few hours a week on the home study course, in bed in the evening usually. Some of it is so simple, some of it is so esoteric...I'd like to crack some of the big stuff before I end up over there for good. Learning it then will be like cheating...too easy! Vee

Hi Vanayssa,
you wrote:
"...about the suit color is, it was a summer color really I guess, maybe would be called really pale taupe, not grey, like taupe but not dark, a really nice suit, cost a good dollar and made of light flowing kind of material..."
I chose for my PE appearance a shirt with long sleeves and pants, made of thin fine fabric like silk; the basic color was light grey, but like silk it is slightly changing brightness and color. It's close to what you've seen, well not a suit, but still close I find.

Spooky

This parternered exploration would be nice as an ongoing experiement with us setting our own scheduels.  (This place IS beyond time according to the TMI definition.)  I posted an interesting experience in the "dream section" and something of intererst is that I am learning to modify my "astral body" into different forms.  For example, I had my first remembered success in morphing my arms into Dragon-style wings.  

I am going to try a different approach to reaching the crystal:  I will attempt to imagine up a teleporter like on Star Trek or any Sci-Fi story and use it as a means of jumping into F27.  The idea is to provide a means to bypass the jumble of memories and thoughts within.  The logical part of myself can be helpful for getting around the irrational parts too.

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Steve Ed

Thanks, Spooky for your comments on the suit...yes that is EXACTLY what I saw, only I thought the guy had lighter hair than is in your picture, but that is amazing, your description of the "suit" is exactly right. And everyone is saying that the crystal affects how colors look, so maybe that is why your hair was lighter. Now can you clarify about the maple syrup trees and all the little buckets?!
I was excited to note Steve's comments about the dragon's wings...always wished I could morph into different creatures at will...maybe i can learn to do it in the NP. So much to learn, so little time...Vee

oh wow Vee and Spooky this looks like a super hit on the suit! I would never have been able to see Spooky wearing this kind of clothing, maybe a tee shirt..lol...you guys got me thinking about being more observant about what I see folks wearing next time I sail out.

say, if you don't mind let me interpret maple syrup and you can make your own connections from there:  maple syrup is a "natural" sweetener. it is not manufactured or depleted of it's nutrients as other sugars are. A tree is something that brings shelter to man, shade from the sun which burns, or shelter from a storm if there is no house to get under.
a tree is rooted to Earth also. Earth is mother. Earth is bosom. Earth grows people lilke apple tree grows apples.
the little buckets holding syrup is like Spooky's buckets of contributions on different threads here since he got here. he never gave us a single sour grape as I read everything he has wrote.

Steve, you are far out ahead of us. it's true we can understand TMI There is beyond time and we can therefore set our own schedules, explore any time we want independent of a group process.
but the purpose of having a set time here is for any newbies who need that who may wish to participate or try their hand. I suspect there's many lurkers who need a direct invitation to even post their ideas and desires to explore.
I remember when I first started posting here, I was afraid and wanted to explore retrieving but wasn't sure I would be accepted into the group, so this PE gives folks an in because we don't care what you bring to the table just so long as you bring something, lol, my opinion, sour grapes excluded, maple syrup in my latte is good though! haha!
we are off to good starts.
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I was just thinking about hair colors out there...one time I had this psychic friend who came running up to me (he taught classes on this psychic business)  and excitedly told me he had seen me last night in a vision with long blonde hair. I had long brown hair at the time; I was born with blonde hair which changed over the years to brown with a few red and gold strands mixed in but mostly drab brown to my perception. I always favored blonde haired people though, was attracted to blondes. what I thought he had picked up was me out there as I "want" to appear.
not saying Spooky wishes to be blonde, just sharing my thoughts that Vee may have been looking more at the crown chakra emitting light, as in a glow situation of the aura. his thoughts are light infused perhaps, is my perception. color is something to study as thoughts do have their own colors out there.
A guide, for instance pointed to my solar plexes area once and said to take note of a fushia color I had going on there. I think he was trying to distract me from my tears at the time by making me notice this and I thank him. at the time a good friend was going to "jail" a symbol that he was locked away from me. (out there).
pink is associated with love, the lighter pastels are lighter, less heavy thoughts. thats all I know basically about colors, but if we don't see a person with the right shade of hair color I dont think thats necessary a failure to perceive correctly out there.

Mornin' Alysia. Yes, the maple syrup interpretation may be right, esp since there were also stacked crates of apples sitting outside there somewhere near a big tree earlier on. The fruits of the earth, au naturel. Still trying to understand the message about how an atomic blast shape resembles the shape of a tree though. Vee

Vee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2007 at 2:08pm:

Mornin' Alysia. Yes, the maple syrup interpretation may be right, esp since there were also stacked crates of apples sitting outside there somewhere near a big tree earlier on. The fruits of the earth, au naturel. Still trying to understand the message about how an atomic blast shape resembles the shape of a tree though. Vee

morning dear, we are on same time :) I don't know, how strange huh? all I can think is the atom bomb is derived from when the "split" the atom. I don't think this is a good science to be splitting the atom because now we have the power to destroy mother nature, our home with this splitting of the atom thing, maybe theres something positive there, just can't find it yet. the image seems to be a morphing action in your brain. this happens when practicing remote viewing..a form will appear and the mind will morph it this way and that, try to draw it maybe.

as an example I can tell u about one experiment with remote viewing where I saw the mind tries to do it's interpretation....I participated on a remote viewing site once and you pick numbers of images...after you experiment to view it or sense it, you check your picture by going to that number.  I drew a weird picture of what seemed to be a sideways toilet, lid up, slanted weirdly, white, didn't see any water, just this vague outline of an opening with two parts....went to the picture and saw a dolphin with a very large mouth, rounded, slanted to the side, smiling, just his head out of the water, saw right away how I could perceive that as a toilet with the lid open because of the perfect round lips, both top and bottom.

so I would assume theres no direct relationship between the atom mushroom cloud and the tree except for a general form and shape.
unless Spooky's going to mushroom up into the sky...NO! stay here Spooky. love, alysia

Ho ho, yes, I think you are right, the neurons are just experimenting with shapes...a giant doodle pad, magic eraser. Maybe life and death are ONE, and evil and good are one, and peace and war are one, somehow or other. Apples and bombs...I dunno. And Kali, the goddess of chaos (I think) and the Creator are one. The snake endlessly swallowing itself...that stuff is somewhat beyond me though. Vee

Yeah, looks like a hit! So now I've got an info how I appear there to others? A cool guy smoking cigarettes...hee hee.
I just wanted to mushroom in the sky and meet Lucy with the diamonds, but Alysia says I shall stay here so I do!

Spooky

Thanks, Spooky, now if someone hands you some terrific lyrics about Maple Syrup be sure to tell us! Vee

Hi Gang,

Sunday, Feb. 4 2007 (day after PE)

As promiced I will share my journey of discovery to anyone who wants to read it. Most of you know that Sat Feb 3 was my first PE and my intent was on higher self. Not exactly a group activity but I figure a better me today means a better PE partner tomorrow. If you missed my post you can catch on page one of this thread.

Sunday was a quiet day except for all the thoughts swirling around in my mind. So many that there was quit a buzz going on and it did lead to a headache so I asked my guides to sort through all this new information and place it where it belongs. Well that worked almost immediately. My head felt like it was charging with electricity, not at all unpleasant although I still had a headache. It felt like a bunch of elbows poking around the inside of my head bumping all around. I headache was getting worse. I thought if those were marshmellos in there it  would not hurt and low and behold the headache stopped! The power of the mind is amazing. I could feel the charge connect all the parts of my brain and they were all working together. The charge started in the frontal lobe connecting left and right then straight across the top of my head and especially the lower potion (left & right) of my brain and even (though not as powerful) on the left and right side section bteween the temple and back of my head. This continued the whole day. Although I was aware of this action I continued on with my day. I let them (guides) do their work, I knew my was coming later.

Sun. night 11pm, I was sleepy, I went to bed. After two or three relaxing breaths...I was somewhere..I still don't know where. I was watching from a distance and I saw myself lying still...I was asleep!. I looked toward the left side of "sleeping Stacy" and I saw a young man sitting in a chair. The first thing I noticed is that he and the chair were so small compaired to the "sleeping " me. I looked closer at him and was overwelmed at who he was. The person I trust most in this or any other world. (he has been spirit for some time now). I was watching him for a moment and he did not seem to be aware  of the me that was watching but he keep watching "sleeping" me. He seemed a little nervous. He kept shifting in his chair looking at "sleeping" me...waiting.

After what seemed like a few minutes I heard a commotion at "sleeping" me's left side. Though I was not in a position to be able to see that side of "me" I could see. A tiny door open on my left side somewhere between my head and chest thought I am not sure exactly where. Out stepped 3 yr old me. I could tell immediately that she was really upset. Her mouth was moving but I could not hear or understand what she was saying. Her mouth moved but no words came out and no thoughts were transfered to my mind. My dear "he" was still in the chair squirming a bit, clearly nervous but very willing to help. She saw him and ran as fast as she could and jumped in his lap squeezing his neck while sobbing into his shoulder, all the while her mouth is moving.

My attention went to him as she jumped in his lap. His eyes got huge and he seemed genuinly surprised at her willingness to confide in him. He seemed momentarily overwhelmed with surprise but then it quickly turned into such love and care that I can not describe. He held her close to him in his lap as she turned to face him. Her mouth was still moving and he was responding to her but I had no clue as to what was being said. I saw a love develope in his eyes that I have never witnessed before even from him. This went on for quite a while as she had plenty to say. All this time it was clear that she was angry, her arms waved about as she explained things to him, a few times she was even yelling. All the while he held her, listening and responding and the love in his eyes kept growing.

By this time she was a little calmer and he was able to get her to laugh a little but she was still talking. At the point when she was calm and laughing he took a moment and looked straight into my eyes. The love in his eyes and the smile he gave me pierced me in a most glorious way. I will be connected to that moment forever. I was surprised though because I did not know that he knew I was there (well of course he did) and I gasped in delight and surprise. He refocused his attention on 3yr old me and kept listening, responding and smiling at her. He truly loved her beyond limits and I could see it.

She seemed content now and was laughing with him and smilling. I think he was tickeling her, they were clearly playing now. When she was done she squeezed his neck and was saying someting sweet I could tell by the look on his face. She was still in his lap and gave him a smile that took up almost half her face and she jumped down and ran back to the door. Before entering the door she turned to him once more and flashed that smile. The door slammed shut.

He sat there in the chair looking very happy but overwhelmed a bit. I got the distinct feeling that he was there for answers as much as I was. (More on that at another time)  I think I drifted off back to sleep.

I don't know when during the night but I returned to the me sleeping and him in the chair. She came out of the door again slamming it shut. I guess she was not done. Her mouth is moving and she is upset still or again. This time she walked toward him and climbed into his lap. He looked so delighted, and she was ranting. Almost the same as before but she was crying less and angry more. She ranted for quite a while and he listened, responded and smiled at her. She seemed calm again now and he said someting to her that she clearly liked. She hopped down from his
lap and took his hand (he melted at this point). They walked toward a very tall field of wheet that I sometimes run through. Very tall, well over my head, I run through this as fast as I can somethimes. I think it is a "trust exercise" I put myself through.

She is still talking, not angry anymore just childish gibberish. He hardly has a chance to say anything he just smiling
at  her nodding and allowing her to continue. All this time of endless talking she is showing him some bugs, dirt and wheet that she picked up. Everything is facinating when you are three. She bends down to pick something else up and again he looks over at me. Again he pierced me with his love and he attention went back to her. She was laughing and running in circles around him and all about. Suddenly she falls down. She rolled on the ground ending facing away from him with her arm covering her face. He seemed surprised and concerned and rushes to her side. He rolls her toward him and she moves her arm to show a very naughty grin and started laughing , deep laughing. They were both laughing now and he glanced at me grinning. He reached for her on the ground and I could hear him clearly say "you little stinker". She was testing him and liked the response. He scooped her up in his arms and held her while she laughed on. When she was done he put her down and took her hand and they started into the wheet field and I was back to sleep as far as I could tell.

Once again I was somewhere, oh I know this place. The tree by the waters edge where he and I have sat together on occasion. They were there under the tree, he leaning against the trunk and she sat between his outstretched legs, playing with dirt and other treasures. She is still in endless conversation and he is patiently listening and responding and they laugh. Finally she is quiet with her play and he says something to her and she is delighted. So excited, jumping all around. I don't think she has been this happy and content before. He stands up and takes her hand all the while talking to her (I don't know what any of the conversations have been, well I am sure I do, I just did not hear it). They walk once again toward the wheet field. Before entering and disapearing into the tall wheet he  glanced over his shoulder at me. He was telling me with his eyes his love was limitless even more so because of this experience and a grin that still hold secrets. They walked off together hand in hand into the wheet, she was still talking.

I forgot to mention one important thing in the begining. Upon going to bed I noticed my abdominal chakra was begining to hum and tingle. It has been a very active week for me, but so good.

I havn't seen 3 yr old me since then but I have noticed some of her characteristics coming to the surface of the now me. I take this as a very good sign. And yes I have seen him since then and it is becoming a bigger adventure that this one. The deeper I go the more beautiful things become!

Anyway, any and all coments welcome. Even if I don't agree I love to see things from another perspective so comment away please.

Stacy

Love reading about your three year old me, wonder if I could benefit from trying that. Only tell us more about this Guide, who is he? How did you get him? Vee

Stacey I don't think u know but you have written a powerful love story here which folks may hunger for some of the wisdom in it.
also this looks like a spontaneous self retrieval, with the child emerging from your solar plexes or heart area chakra. (energy vortex of stored memories)

I myself once retrieved a 2 or 3 yr old self of my own and started to see life thru her eyes as well as the eyes of my older self from that point on.

your child self appears to be adorable to me! it seems she was instrumental to open the heart chakra of this fellow or guide you have. I too am curious if he were an uncle or? but I don't need to know that really.
this is life changing stuff you've given us and I thank you, I felt the love you expressed and got a little sentimental.
love, alysia

I would like to report a confirmed access into F27.  I had relaxed into the "mind awake body asleep" mode and found my perspective in a void (Focus 23, by the definition I had gotten of the place).  I get a rote about "Bob Ross" being lost in a "black-void" state.  I inquire and he tells me that he has been having nightmares.  I tell him that I can show him the way to an herbalist who can relieve his nightmares.  I get the instinct to grab his shoulder and help him through the rectangular door that has opened as a portal into Focus 27 and we step into a hospital where the door into F23 has now disappeared.  He limp-walks off to my right relative to me facing 180 degrees away from the phantom portal.  For the full story, please feel free to explore the thread in Retrievals:  http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1171135806

In summary, my experience tells me that making a retrieval provides me a "back door" into F27's recovery center.  I wonder if this means I can make my way to our destination for this partered exploration by taking advantage of the portal a retrieval provides.
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Vee

I would highly recommend this for anyone who wants to feel more connected with themselves. You may find some surprises.

I have no idea of the "rules or guidelines" of this kind of venture so I made up my own. I put some thought into it first. Not in the same place you may think about washing your car; push it way back. I imagine my intent or question, depending on circumstance, as words floating in my mind then I imagine a small me inside my mind pushing it as far back as it will go. That way the process is running in the background and you can still think about washing your car. When something interesting comes up my mind pops it to the front and I jot them down. I can then move these topics to priority and think on them "while" I wash the car. It sounds silly I know but it works for me. Experiment to find your own style.

I also had many mental conversations with my guides. I expressed my intent of my goal, but I left the steps to be taked up to them. I had no idea of what the first steps were, so knowing that they only want what is best for me I asked them to guide me through it. I did however tell them that I did not want  trama if it was not necessary for my growth (been there, done that) but in the event it was necessary I was willing.

I was a bit nervous on the day of the PE so I did some breathing ex. to stay calm and if you recall from my earlier post that I had set my intention on doing the PE in the evening when the house was quiet. I was doing beathing ex in the late afternoon, tv in the other room blarring, and my guides used this time to take me on the PE. I was not nervous because I was not expecting to go until later. So build a relationship with your guides and then trust them completely. Go with the flow of what works for you. Trust yourself and you will know. (This is interesting, "Trust yourself and you will know" is either one of those thoughts I told you will pop up to the front of your brain at the appropriate time or it may be a tip from one of my guides. Anyway I was not knowingly thinking it, it just came out.)

Vee I hope this helps you on your journey of self discovery.

Keep in mind, I have no idea of what I am doing. I am flying by the seat of my pants and it's a great ride.   Stacy

Daisymae
I will be putting those ideas into effect right away and thanks, both for sharing and also for flying by the seat of your pants till you can verbalize the process for the rest of us. Vee

Thanks Alysia,

I just wrote it as it happened. I tried to convey the emotion envolved but fell short of the actual experience, how can you not?

I would love to talk to you in more detail but I would first like to get other opinions without my input to sway them. So much more to tell. So much has happened since then. Good Golly.

Love, Stacy