I've read this several places now about lucid dreaming is only the first step.

From the lucid area is a point of leaping off.
Leaping off into 1)either a full blown obe
or 2) What KLeland calls "otherwhere."
this is good to know. we have grid points out there. all is energy, we can enter a change in consciousness level, delta, whatever, and begin having verbal memorized conversations which upon coming back to wakefulness we can write them down and receive even more information that way. we can gather history of humanity, info about who and what we are, the big stuff.

this is what I've been doing. only what I bring back is not as extensive as Leland, Monroe and other people working in this field. I'm studying what other folks say in common with these altered states of receiving information.
oh and Leland says there are gatekeepers who keep watch over these grid points, there are certain tests before you can safely cross. you have to be ready.
its why I always say ask for guides who have your best interests at heart. because they are there and they have specific jobs to perform for us in service.