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Message started by betson on Jan 15th, 2007 at 11:27am

Title: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by betson on Jan 15th, 2007 at 11:27am
Greetings,

Although we are on an amazing upward spiritual journey here, I noticed last week that several of us were recently surprised by a wave of unexpected negativity in the form of horrendous nightmares or a sense of negative energy around us--OoBD mentionned it on one of his threads, Nje had a posting which no one seemed at the time up to counteracting, other posted arguments were destructive, etc.

I too had unexpected nightmares then that I didn't post, so I'm wonderring if anyone knows a cyclic cause of that outbreak,--weather?
sun energy or lack thereof?   a natural timing that is perhaps recognized in some religions such as Buddhist?  
and if anyone else had such a flare-up of negativity, who maybe doesn't care to post the details but might add a 'me too' so we could assess how widespread such a flare-up is?
With the capabilities of this website we could discover such a pattern and gain some reassuraance that it's not just us as an individual havings these downs   :( when we expect to be up.  :)
I've heard they can be expected but I've never heard that they come in groups such as last week's events seemed to show.

Bets

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by Kate on Jan 15th, 2007 at 12:53pm
Betson,

I had a nightmare last week as well.  It could have even been over the weekend but I think it was a few nights ago but can't remember exactly which night.  I don't remember too much about it except that I was scared and running from something, something scary looking.

I know it's not much information.   :-/  That's all I can remember but I wanted to say Me Too.

Katie  :)

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by juditha on Jan 15th, 2007 at 5:57pm
Hi  I have had 3 nightmares all the same,everytime someone is after me and it feels evil and when this someone or something catchs me each time i am shot in the stomach and i feel this intense pain and im dieing and then i wake up,in these nightmares my heart is beating so fast and each time im hiding away but always i am found. Dont like these nightmares especially because they have been the same 3 times.These nightmares have been happening between 4 to 5 yrs.

Love and God bless    Love Juditha

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by Steve_ED on Jan 15th, 2007 at 8:10pm
About the only thing unusual for me was about three nights ago when I had a severe fever and was awake in bed at around 4:00 AM.  I am lying in bed awake, yet at the same time I am flying through some 3D construct of boxes like I am inside a 3D maping program on my computer.  The only thing that bothers me is that I might be stuck in this geometric maze for a very long time.  The dream continued while I was wide awake and walked into the bathroom for a hot tub relaxation.  I hardly consider it a full nightmare though; I was just in shock at being lost in a 3D space while awake.

[In fact, fear inducing nightmares are a rare occurance for me for some reason unknown to me.]

Σ, Steve

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by dave_a_mbs on Jan 15th, 2007 at 10:20pm
Juditha -
Sounds like a very typical past life recollection. Have you forgiven the person for being unpleasant, dangerous, frightening and then shooting you? If you look a little farther backwards you might also discover what you had done that created that situation. Considering that your present life is intensely spiritual, I'd guess that you are presently living through the rewards (karma if you prefer) of a good life that was interrupted.
PUL
dave

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by AhSoLaoTsuAhhOmmra on Jan 15th, 2007 at 10:33pm
  I've noticed a percentage of folks acting rather unbalanced latley, dunno if its related to what you're talking about..  But yeah, increased Sun spots, solar storms, etc., can and do have this kind of affect.  

 Haven't been keeping up on that kind of stuff lately though, so couldn't tell you.  

 Have had some weird dreams lately.  

 Astrologically there are some rather intense transits going on right now.  Pluto is just leaving an exact conjunction with the Galactic Center, and both are starting to cusp Capricorn from Sagittarius.  

  Pluto as a symbol is kind of like the dark collective unconscious, and also represents for the individual one's more dark and unconscious "shadow" self.   Pluto is extremely unconscious, but also very OCD.  

  Galactic Center of course is somewhat representative of Universal Mind, pure Light.   The general G.C. alignment and lately with the added Pluto conjunction to same, seems to really be "stirring" up the dark collective unconscious aspects of humanity.  

 The last time this conjunction happened, was during the American Revolution period in the mid/later 1700's (incidentally then it was in the sign of Capricorn, and right now its in Sag. but cusping Capricorn).

 It has to come to the surface, so that it will get consciously worked with and then hopefully transcended.   If we continue to repress this stuff as a society, as a civilization...well the Golden Age which is trying to bloom, may not bloom as optimally as it could.  

 Oh, forgot to add that Mars the red energy of strife, conflict, anger, activity just left a conjunction with both Pluto and the G.C. in the Fire sign of Sagittarius (like the other Fire signs, Sag definitely has a temper tendency).   So Mars was adding its very red frequency energy in with Pluto (which is like a really deep reddish purple, almost like the color of an eggplant) and the G.C.  

 There's probably other stuff going on (astrologically), but i haven't been paying much attention to this kind of stuff lately.    

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by laffingrain on Jan 15th, 2007 at 11:30pm
no dreams Bets, matter of fact all my dreams I come back with love feelings.

however I've lost my temper 3 times last week and this is unusual for me. my children are fire sign Aries and I am fire sign Sag. and we get on each other's nerves. good to assume I can look at hidden causes of this touchiness and part  could be related to what I call shift in consciousness and what ahso calls the planetary influences. part of it is due to I keep seeing myself talking to someone out there and its like theres two of me, and I just like to get the two integrated before I check myself into the psyche ward. just kidding.  this would tend to create confusion and emotional outbursts.  I've been dancing to ground into this here and now. it keeps my spirits up.
the good part of the dance routine is gaining strength in muscles and balance and all that physical stuff is good for a computer sitter.

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by Steve_ED on Jan 16th, 2007 at 2:29am
Also, for those who haven't caught it yet, I have gone through a very severe fever (in my frame of reference) and became afraid that I was going to overheat and die.  On the plus side, that helped clean out some of the old stuff in my mind and make room for the new.

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by augoeideian on Jan 16th, 2007 at 6:20am
Generally I tend to see more of the darkness around me then the lightness to a point I daily concentrate on finding my stillness or voidness to calm me.  Over the holidays I had a night encounter with a entity which was not very pleasant and left me rattled for a good few days after.  I think I see these things to show me that negative energies are around and it is shown to me how strong the power of love is in coping with these negative energies.

I find it is important to stay within the light and being positive at all times.

Thanks for the Astrological writings AhSo, the Phoenix risen from the ashes  :)  Yes, I agree Pluto conjunct Mars is talking to us right now.  Pluto representing the underworld is in Sagittarius representing the archer aiming at heaven and Mars representing the agent of survival and vital energy is in Capricorn representing dedication, effort and focus.

Plus the Moon is in Sagittarius and moves into Capricorn on Wednesday; adding further to the Sag and Capr representations.   Bringing the Galactic Centre into the equation is very interesting AhSo.

Makes you think doesn't it.

 

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by augoeideian on Jan 16th, 2007 at 7:28am
Steve_ed I meant to reply to your post and realised I hadn't.  Fevers indicate that an spiritual adjustment or alignment within your metabolism is being made.  Generally for the good of ones self.  Doesn't Mars rule fevers AhSo? I sure Mars does.  I always think fevers are a good sign of inner growth.  And the burning is likened to the Alchemical lore of burning off the dross to find the gold.

*The correct medical precautions must still be adhered to when in fever - especially with children (who make a good number of metabolism adjustments in order to align themselves appropriately once they are here) and normally this is through temperature control.  If to hot, get cool and if to cool get warm to try balance the temperature - please don't stay in a boil because you think its good!! - the body does its own work naturally.

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by recoverer on Jan 16th, 2007 at 3:56pm
Juditha:

I've been paying attention to my dreams really closely the past couple of years, and I have become certain that they come from divine spirit guidance. Paying attention to them has helped me immeasurably.

When I consider reoccuring dreams I've had over the years,  I see that my spirit guidance repeated certain themes until I finally got the point.

Numerous times you've had dreams where it seemed like something evil got you,  but it turns out that it didn't. You and your sister saw that creeping looking spirit when you were kids, but nothing bad happened to you.  After putting out a challenge you experienced an attack, but in the end nothing bad happened to you. While in a circle you met up with a dark presence, Theresa told you to stand up to it, and in the end nothing bad happened to you.

Perhaps your guidance is hoping that you'll get the message that even though negative minded spirits exist they "AREN"T" going to get the best of you as long as you stay committed to God and Jesus. Otherwise, one of them would've gotten to you by now.






wrote on Jan 15th, 2007 at 5:57pm:
Hi  I have had 3 nightmares all the same,everytime someone is after me and it feels evil and when this someone or something catchs me each time i am shot in the stomach and i feel this intense pain and im dieing and then i wake up,in these nightmares my heart is beating so fast and each time im hiding away but always i am found. Dont like these nightmares especially because they have been the same 3 times.These nightmares have been happening between 4 to 5 yrs.

Love and God bless    Love Juditha


Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by juditha on Jan 17th, 2007 at 2:22pm
Hi Dave I have often wondered whether that was the way i died in a former life,as always in this dream i am always feeling fear and trying to get away from this person,thanks for your thoughts on it dave.

Love and God bless       Love Juditha

Title: Re: Ups, then downs, now up
Post by juditha on Jan 17th, 2007 at 2:26pm
Hi Recoverer   Your right nothing can get to me thats evil because of my love for God,i really appreciate what you have written to me thanks.

Love and God bless      Love Juditha

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