Hi I have put this link on here which proves Jesus existed

http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/gn/gn044/proof.html

Love and God bless       Love Juditha

Hi I have put this link on here which proves Jesus existed

http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/gn/gn044/proof.html

Love and God bless
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I'm sorry Juditha, but the James ossuary has been proven to
be a hoax.
As I understand it, there have been a number of scams perpetrated
on Israeli museums in recent years... many by the same collector who
who claimed the discovery (i.e., fabrication) of this little gem (i.e., "Oded Golan.")
Apparently this situation has gotten so bad, that the Israeli Ministry of
Antiquities (or whatever) is now concerned that a large number of million-dollar museum pieces may in fact, be fakes palmed off by people like Mr. Golan. Over-eager and ill-informed (or perhaps greedy?) museum curators, shady back-room deals and so forth...
(I'll let Dude go into the rest of the details here, he's probably more
into targeted searching than I am AND he seems to really get into it.)
Anyway, nice try, Juditha. But in future, you might want to try a more impartial/un-biased source than "Good News Magazine" to back up your arguments. (Just a little friendly advice..!)

B-man

Why Don't you move this thread into my thread?  No need for multiple threads on the same subject.


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Although the evidence so far points to the listing of Jesus, James and Joseph on the newfound ossuary as being the same persons mentioned in the New Testament, it cannot be proven with absolute certainty.

They clearly state that it cannot be proven.  All this proves is that a person with the name of Jesus existed in those times.  Well duh, there were thousands of people with the name Jesus in those times.  

Upon researching this artifact, I found somthing that may have you changing your mind about this artifact:

"An ancient burial box believed to have belonged to James, the Biblical brother of Jesus, was damaged while being sent for display at a Toronto museum. The museum is awaiting word from the ossuary's owner before attempting to repair the box, but the owner is being questioned by police as the burial box may actually belong to the State of Israel. Meanwhile, Israeli scholars insist that the inscription on the box is a fraud.

Staff at the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto discovered numerous cracks Friday in the 2,000-year-old limestone burial box. The cracks appear under an Aramaic inscription which states: "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus." Herschel Shanks, the Jewish publisher of the respected Biblical Archaeology Review, announced the discovery of the box last month as the "first archaeological attestation of Jesus."

Israel Insider posted exclusively on October 29 the report of an expert of ancient scripts and writing systems who claimed that while the burial box appeared to be genuine, as was the first part of the inscription, the second half of the inscription, "brother of Jesus," was a "poorly executed fake" and a later addition.

Rochelle I. Altman, co-coordinator of IOUDAIOS-L, a virtual community of scholars engaged in on-line discussion of Judaism in the Greco-Roman world, says that people are taking Sorbonne University paleographer Andre Lemaire's word too quickly when he stated "that the inscription is incised."

Both Altman and noted paleographer Ada Yardeni have concluded that the second part of the inscription was added later. "There are two hands; two different scripts; two different social strata, two different levels of execution, two different levels of literacy, and two different carvers," Altman says.

Altman believes that the second half was actually written in the 3rd or 4th century, while Paul Flesher at the University of Wyoming, an expert on Hebraicized Aramaic dialects, dates it anywhere between the 2nd and 7th centuries."

Well, what do you know...
Seems like this artifact simply proves my point that there is and has always been a great scandal within the Christian community.

About Oded Golan and his "James Ossuary".....

http://www.archaeology.org/online/news/ossuary2.html

Sure enough, another "ancient holy relic" goes the way of
the "piece of wood from Noah's Ark" (actually, modern pine
treated to look "ancient" by boiling it in soy sauce...)

B-man

Hi Chumley and outofbodydude   This is the first time i have read of this,but i tried anyway.

Love and God bless     love Juditha ::)

I don't think they're necessarily criticizing her, Deanna.  The James ossuary was debunked three or four years ago, if I recall correctly.  Friends don't let friends believe in frauds, it isn't a kindness.  It doesn't mean she's wrong, it means she's been lied to.  It isn't nice to let someone believe something that's long been debunked and base their beliefs on it.

Doesn't mean the beliefs aren't true, but they should be on a solid foundation.

"However, on June 18, 2003, the Israeli Antiquities Authority published a report concluding that the inscription is a modern forgery based on their analysis of the patina. Specifically, it appears that the inscription was added recently and made to look old by addition of a chalk solution."

Thanks cricket i realise that now its just that juditha was in tears but she is okay now love and god bless deanna