I don't know much about most of your beliefs here still. I am trying to get myself to read journys out of the body, haven't gotten nerve to read it yet, I have it though.
Believe it or not I fear what I can do. Some of you remember my posting before possibly.
I recently was very ill and while I was ill I started having visions of something that happened to me, like a memory. I was with someone else. But I felt like I fluttered like an angel. In this memory. I can't get over it.

Hello---EGGS
I suppose it depends on which religious belief system you get your information from.  When i was a kid, I was told that the angels were created seperately from us and that we cannot become angels.  Then again, Shirley McLane says that WE are the falling angels that the bible describes.  We are the group of angels who followed Lucifer and decided that we wanted more than the heavenly happiness we already had.  We wanted to explore and expand beyond  the heavenly realm that God had created for us. So , we followed old Lucifer to end up here on earth, for better and for worse, until we reach our ultimate goal of the earthly experience. When we die from the physical, we go to another paradise, never again to be angels.
Then again, another belief is that we all are and will always be angels and we asked to come here to earth to become more that we really are.  I know a lot of earth angels. So I think you are correct in your interpertation of your dream.  Hello Angel!!!
Carol Ann

Flying lessons are addictive, eggshellseas, aren't they? It sounds like you'd like to try it again sometime....this is a place you can learn how to do it over and over again if you want.

love, blink

I believe that Angel is a purely religious term, and serves no purpose for our reality, because our reality is not religion, our reality just is.  Many people label those they enounter from the afterlife as "angels", when chances are it could have been my great great grandfather.  It is just a misconception.  If I was going to describe what an Angel is, I would say it was someone from the afterlife who made it their buisness to help either those still on earth, or those in a sticky situation in the afterlife.  However, this does not make this "angel" any more special than any other being in the afterlife, it is good that they are helping but that does not make them any better or worse.  Basically, asking if you think you could have an angel as a member of your disc is the same as asking if you think you could have a ghost as a member.  They are just labels that are often not even used accurately.  I beleive I have many aspects of my higher self that help others.  However, I dont say, I have angels.  Perhaps if I were a character in the bible I would, but that is not the case.  We need to deal with reality and not fiction.

wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:37pm:

Flying lessons are addictive, eggshellseas, aren't they? It sounds like you'd like to try it again sometime....this is a place you can learn how to do it over and over again if you want. love, blink

Yes they are addictive, for me I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand
he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time.
To the other person that mentioned lucifer. My belief is that lucifer is not a bad angel as the bible depicts. I think lucifer is more like the all seeing eye. That never meant to leave heaven actually. But is an angel of great light, not that "she" is an eye but she has a job. And when he comes to her, one of the things she does is tell truth.

I feel that Spirit (as some people prefer to call it) has something important to share with you, and you are being called on a kind of a vision quest. In quiet meditation you may find the answers you are seeking. There are many, many ways to do it, and no one way is correct.  You may try more than one if you wish. And what I have found is, over time, amazing things may manifest in your outer life to clarify in a beautiful way the answers for which you are seeking. There is something important which needs to reveal itself to you...trust it.

love, blink

ESS said: I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand
he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time.
____

this is happening to me too. care to share any more details? The problem is just getting the glimpses and scratching the rest of the day. I would reccomend writing it down. I have about 40 such glimpses. I now know who he is in the physical world but knowing this doesn't make you feel any less crazy!

please keep us informed. I may need your help! love, alysia

Nice to have you return to us EggShellSea, I probably got the name backwards. I think its spiritual dslexia.

so you said: My belief is that lucifer is not a bad angel as the bible depicts. I think lucifer is more like the all seeing eye. That never meant to leave heaven actually. But is an angel of great light, not that "she" is an eye but she has a job. And when he comes to her, one of the things she does is tell truth.
____


my belief is there are two parts to us: an ego and a higher self.

the ego proclaims to always have the answer. not only for you, but for others.
thats the definition of being selfish to certain degrees more or less until you get somebody with no conscious at all (so they say)
a conscious is the good part that says oh oh, you're in deep kaa kaa now bud.

Lucifer is symbolic of the ego which plunders others and covets.
unfortunately, we all have one.
higher self, the part of you connected to god is the part of us that yearns to complete our intentions for coming and return home, hopefully in one piece, with all our self retrievals having been completed.

Lucifer = fear
god = love

where love is, fear is not. fear cannot survive in the presence of love. there you have your duality world we came to subdue all fear from within, not from without.

love is also the what is called the light because it is all encompassing and therefore cannot have an opposite. when encompassed by this love self realized, there is a lack of sense of existing in a duality, or polarized world.

the mind in the grip of love is in process towards a return to the light. in this process doubts recede to a trickle of what they were previously until no doubt is there at all that you are in this process of returning to what you basically are. love. but of a more pureness.
pureness of intention means no distortions or doubts.

doubts belong to the ego and are a subtle form of fear. the ego is lucifer spoken of as a fallen angel because he fell into the physical and was cast from Eden (symbology)
The ego will always claim to be on the right hand side of god, although god throws the party for the prodigal son, not for Lucifer, who is jealous and wants god to honor only himself.
jealousy is simply fear. there are only 2 emotions: fear or love. fear=lucifer, love = god.
A state of non duality, of doubtlessness, is a restful place. We are all headed there with the relinguishment of ego holdings: Jealousy, war, hatred, separation thoughts, gossip, judgment, all these will fall away. We are in the shift in consciousness and all will be affected. We have much to celebrate.
we are all gods and goddesses with an ego which proclaims this is a lie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/spiritvideo/Alysia/myspace%20graphics/th_goldangel.jpg


this stuff above is how I remember what A Course In Miracles said to me. then I had to go and live it to see if it were true. then the lessons came and I learned it was true. It says we are all love in our essence. this is true. and we are all equal beings in the sight of god who has no favorites.  As well when a problem comes and doubt enters of your inability to solve it, you say only this: I am one with god, therefore I cannot be separate from my creator and so this too shall pass. then it snowballs as you come to believe you are love and indeed it is impossible to be separated from love, god.
what you believe is what will come to manifest. you can't lose.

I sent away for an internet ministers certificate, guys, let me practice on ya!

HAPPY NEW SHIFT IN CONSCIOUSNESS...WWWWWWOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEE!!

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1^st, 2007 at 12:14am:

ESS said: I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time. ____ this is happening to me too. care to share any more details? The problem is just getting the glimpses and scratching the rest of the day. I would reccomend writing it down. I have about 40 such glimpses. I now know who he is in the physical world but knowing this doesn't make you feel any less crazy! please keep us informed. I may need your help! love, alysia

Its difficult to describe the details because it is so unbelieveable, I find it hard to believe myself. This person is very well known and has been popping into my life since I was twelve years old at least. He is a very powerful man and is in touch with his higher being very strongly. I believe the band he was once in wrote many songs based on Robert Monroes books.

I think its higher self to higher self bleed through ESS. thats how I'm dealing with it for now because I know, as you say, we cannot let ourselves fully believe its real. its feels much more comfortable to not even think about it.

same here...this person walks into my dreams, drops some bomb on me and walks out. I'm always affected after each episode in my daily thought system. if I told anybody  these things they'd just say forget it, its a dream. no big deal. but its always like an aha moment about my thought system when it happens, I change or I learn something, mostly about me, not them.

..this one in my dream is too well known to risk revealing his name also. lol...they'd come after me for sure, the little men in white coats.
sometimes I'm thinking, please no more dreams. let me assimilate. could be a disc thing? like all disc members reuniting? thats the best explanation I can up with. This one is related to Yeshua. also you said since you were 12. this affiliation started for me around age 18 and I'm now 60.

as far as spiritual advice since you and I appear in the same boat here, I would say to trust yourself, that we won't be given more information than we can handle, and that the reason we live in linear time is so we have the time to go as slow or as fast as we want into enlightenment.  perhaps an agreement was formed before incarnation?
this happens a lot. we make agreements or we have intentions for incarnating..its not a chaotic universe, its an orderly one is my belief.

thanks for sharing..I feel much better knowing you're going thru the same thing. love, alysia

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1^st, 2007 at 6:17pm:

I think its higher self to higher self bleed through ESS. thats how I'm dealing with it for now because I know, as you say, we cannot let ourselves fully believe its real. its feels much more comfortable to not even think about it. same here...this person walks into my dreams, drops some bomb on me and walks out. I'm always affected after each episode in my daily thought system. if I told anybody  these things they'd just say forget it, its a dream. no big deal. but its always like an aha moment about my thought system when it happens, I change or I learn something, mostly about me, not them. ..this one in my dream is too well known to risk revealing his name also. lol...they'd come after me for sure, the little men in white coats. sometimes I'm thinking, please no more dreams. let me assimilate. could be a disc thing? like all disc members reuniting? thats the best explanation I can up with. This one is related to Yeshua. also you said since you were 12. this affiliation started for me around age 18 and I'm now 60. as far as spiritual advice since you and I appear in the same boat here, I would say to trust yourself, that we won't be given more information than we can handle, and that the reason we live in linear time is so we have the time to go as slow or as fast as we want into enlightenment.  perhaps an agreement was formed before incarnation? this happens a lot. we make agreements or we have intentions for incarnating..its not a chaotic universe, its an orderly one is my belief. thanks for sharing..I feel much better knowing you're going thru the same thing. love, alysia

I'll send you a pm about who my mystery man is and you can tell me yours if you wish. ;)

ok, I'd really like to know who yours is, but don't know if I'll be able to tell u mine! ;)

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1^st, 2007 at 9:35pm:

ok, I'd really like to know who yours is, but don't know if I'll be able to tell u mine! ;)

I wouldn't be suprised if its not the same guy, really.

haha! nope. :)

THE HIGHER SELF CAN BE ANYTHING IT WONTS TO BE, OR THAT YOU NEED IT TO BE. NOW IF YOU NEED IT TO BE AN ANGEL I'M SURE IT CAN MORPH INTO THAT NO PROBLEMS.

LightR_on wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 1:40am:

THE HIGHER SELF CAN BE ANYTHING IT WONTS TO BE, OR THAT YOU NEED IT TO BE. NOW IF YOU NEED IT TO BE AN ANGEL I'M SURE IT CAN MORPH INTO THAT NO PROBLEMS.

Thats sounds great, but I don't know if I believe that to be true. Maybe some beings can, some beings can I imagine in this world. Shapeshifters. I believe some can do that.
I'm taking it that some of you don't believe in a creator that makes some beings a certain way? I don't know.
I mostly ponder of the angelic idea because of what I have seen of myself and remember of somebody else.
I know one thing thats for sure, I have a great deal of energy there. I need to focus on pulling that here to me.

thats so true LightsRon, J appears to believers as J or a helper appears in the clothes of J, so that comfort can be fit into the soul who looks to J.  (or Hindu god, etc)

but whats going on for me and ESS and I don't know how many others is a slightly different matter of connecting to the ones who are needing something from us, and we are needing something from them, something to do with intentions for incarnating and finishing up business before blast off. these are not common dreams. these appear more as memories, where you slap yourself on the head and say, yegads, I forgot on purpose!
:o   yea, I remember but sometimes I want to forget again.

love, alysia

Hi, we're on at the same time ESS. must be a reason! ;)  you said something I wanted to respond on a bit.. I mostly ponder of the angelic idea because of what I have seen of myself and remember of somebody else.
I know one thing thats for sure, I have a great deal of energy there. I need to focus on pulling that here to me.


sorry if everything you say makes me think of a similar experience but maybe we're sister souls in our thoughts. if so, glad to meet cha. if not still glad to meet cha! :)
Even so what I have seen "out there" of myself and the opinions and belief systems generated by these experience, I hold true that I am not different than anyone else, so then what I see, if I see myself as a being with light streaming from the eye socket, I see others the same way. I could have easily conjectured when I saw this "higher self" with light coming from the eyes that I was angel. it was my lower self's job to protest this news. and I still protest it. we are duality creatures, born to protest.

lately I've been telling others ye are gods and goddesses and know it not. I will stay with this thought until I die because I hold it as a vision. we have no idea of our powers to balance a duality world and war and all that goes with a world of shadow and sun, fear and love, etc.
Frankly higher self had come this way to inpire lower self to stop being a couch pototo  ..read, study, see why higher self was all jolly and carefree and C1 was not. crap, I wanted to kill myself on more than one occassion. I rescued my own self. I must be an angel! lol.  glad to get any type of visitation from anybody at this point! :D

and you're right, we do have a great deal of energy on the other side because we have no baggage to carry around, so we become lightweights. as well theres no aging process unless we want it.
this light that streams from the eyes is god stuff, its pure light. I've seen it in my husband's eyes on 3 occassions: when we met, when I gave birth, and when he died. he played the role of a drunk here on earth, but he was much much more than that role.

then I saw it in my stepfather's eyes as he lay dying. It was from the eyes and love was there in the light. Love was in my higher self's eyes streaming out and this love was etheral, other worldly and contained the answer to every question that one could possibly think up. its us! we are the lightworkers. we should be happy. heres how I see retrievals..its like a thousand words. its not even complicated. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/spiritvideo/Alysia/myspace%20graphics/fingers.jpg

LaffingRain wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 2:37pm:

thats so true LightsRon, J appears to believers as J or a helper appears in the clothes of J, so that comfort can be fit into the soul who looks to J.  (or Hindu god, etc) but whats going on for me and ESS and I don't know how many others is a slightly different matter of connecting to the ones who are needing something from us, and we are needing something from them, something to do with intentions for incarnating and finishing up business before blast off. these are not common dreams. these appear more as memories, where you slap yourself on the head and say, yegads, I forgot on purpose! :o   yea, I remember but sometimes I want to forget again. love, alysia

Who do you refer to as J? Like Jesus or something?
When I had that visitation many years ago the "angel" that spoke to me said he was Michael. I said "If you are Michael then you would be Jesus, he just smiled back at me.
The thing that concerns me is , that Michael normally is know to show up when something really evil is going on. I tell you I can't stand much more evil attacking me and my loved ones. I really can't, I love knowing that we are watched over but I really hate going through this in my life. I truly hope I never have to live this same life over again. I hope that we can live eternally and peacfully, thats what I hope for.

I believe that these characters, whether it is jesus, buddah, karish, whatever, are actually guides or higher beings taking on the form of these characters in order to comfort or help the person who believes in the particular character.  I also am thinking that these beings may actually exist, but only because it is so commonly believed that they do, that our collective thoughts were able to manifest the actual beings.  These characters are of pure fiction, there is no doubt about that.  But if we can think a nasty demon into existance, I see no reason why we cant think one of these spiritual beings into existance for love or support in the afterlife.

I Am Dude wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 8:17pm:

I believe that these characters, whether it is jesus, buddah, karish, whatever, are actually guides or higher beings taking on the form of these characters in order to comfort or help the person who believes in the particular character.  I also am thinking that these beings may actually exist, but only because it is so commonly believed that they do, that our collective thoughts were able to manifest the actual beings.  These characters are of pure fiction, there is no doubt about that.  But if we can think a nasty demon into existance, I see no reason why we cant think one of these spiritual beings into existance for love or support in the afterlife.

I see what your saying. But at the time this happened to me, I never really put much thought into Michael, I went to church at the time and gave reverence to Christ. I only thought Michael could be christ as the song goes, the highest archangel in glory. He announced himself to me as Michael. Honestly I think Michael and Shiva and many more are the same being, he is the highest conciousness. I don't think anyone thought him up, he just is.
Where does love come from anyway. Someone created it. Someone created time and someone created human form. I don't know that a collective created it. Maybe so, his wings are full of eyes as it says in eziekel. But it seemed that they may be souls hes holding onto. I can't say for sure. I believe the night that occured I past on, then he brought me back. It has to be for a reason. I think my job is here in this realm. All I know is that without his love, I don't think I would be able to do much. For he exists, whether someone made him up or not. He does exist. He makes others exist as I see it in my mind. I think he likes to allow beings he creates to make good decisions. Hence Karma follows maybe.

I'm not sure if these characters ( Jesus, Buddha etc.) are pure fiction.  They did have physical lives on this planet. Just because they're no longer physical doesn't mean they still don't live. But you could be right anyway Dude... I myself could be pure fiction. I could exist just as the stories I tell myself. That is probably true. The world could exist, in the way it does to me,  just as the stories I tell about it to myself.

Hmmm. Interesting story you shared, the story about Jesus and Buddha being characters in a story. I like the idea of being a character with them.

wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 8:43pm:

I'm not sure if these characters ( Jesus, Buddha etc.) are pure fiction.  They did have physical lives on this planet. Just because they're no longer physical doesn't mean they still don't live. But you could be right anyway Dude... I myself could be pure fiction. I could exist just as the stories I tell myself. That is probably true. The world could exist, in the way it does to me,  just as the stories I tell about it to myself. Hmmm. Interesting story you shared, the story about Jesus and Buddha being characters in a story. I like the idea of being a character with them.

I like that idea too.  I believe that there is this highest conciuosness and he created lots of things. I believe that war was waged against him because of what he could do, possibly jealousy against him. I also believe he can fix things. I belive he is very loving. If others don't want his heaven then they are free to go. But what if they can't do it without him? Do they want back in? I don't know.
I do know that "he" is. I never thought I would see him, but I have. And he seems to step in my life when soemthing terrible has happened like with my son. I feel that he is eventually going to expect things from me, when or what, I can't say. But I feel it.

My statements of these characters being fictional come from my knowledge of the works many scholars and researchers have done pertaining to biblical texts and studies of the stories of past religions as well.  The truth is that the character jesus christ has an extraordinary similarity to characters of religions preceiding christianity which are supposively the "son of god".  There is actually a "son of god" in almost every religion.  The entire way Chirst lived his life, most of his teachings from the bible, the events that occurred in his life, are almost all the exact same stories of Krishna and some of Buddah, two "sons of god" from religions that go back way farther than christianity.  Many other father figures of past religions also share the same traits as Jesus.  the facts also point to the fact that Jesus is no more than a personification of the actual sun, the sun in the sky, and the bible is more or less a personified story of the zodiac.  Christianity has actually taught its followers that Astology is work of the Devil, and yet it incorperates it into the story in so many ways.  Is that a coincidence? Perhaps they did not want people to find out the truth about the story of the bible, and by telling people to stay away from Astrology they hoped noone would be able to see the connection.  There is a very informative series of videos on YouTube.com entitled The Truth of the Jesus Myth.  I do not recomend watching this if you are extremely religious, for you will either totally and irrationally reject the evidence, or you may except the evidence which could cause such a big belief system crash you may loose your mind.  I would never show my mom this, her faith in jesus is all she has, and I would not want to take that away from her.  The same goes with any of you.  Just beware, for the evidence in these videos that the bible is simply a compilation of stories of past religions and personifications of the zodiac are tremendous, and simply cannot be overlooked and tossed away.

Oh believe most of what your are saying , they made christianity become what it is by fitting it a certain way. The church was actually started by Jewish men. I don't believe that most of what he taught is actually in the bible. Much of the sermon on the mount is found in the eygption book of the dead also.
I believe a few have played that role of Christ. I believe the right one did it the last time, or a time.

eggshellseas2 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 10:09pm:

Oh believe most of what your are saying , they made christianity become what it is by fitting it a certain way. The church was actually started by Jewish men. I don't believe that most of what he taught is actually in the bible. Much of the sermon on the mount is found in the eygption book of the dead also. I believe a few have played that role of Christ. I believe the right one did it the last time, or a time.

I can't find that on You tube. I search I have heard that story like on national geographic or something.
The reason I believe the right guy did it this time..I can't explain right now. Its just what he said to me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r9t9s94-J3Y

Theres the link. Its a 6 part series. Enjoy!

lot of good thoughts here. I read Tim first so go with what he brings up for me.

I'm sure there was a man called Jesus and that when a man dies here he still remains what he was and is not assimilated into a wispy cloud of clone like proportion. doesn't make sense to me that I could lose myself as I know myself in whatever time period or life I undertook.
It's more like Jesus was also Buddha and many more persons of light, and since energy is industructible, nothing is lost. we are basically energy beings. our bodies are water and mineral composites..is why the body returns to the soil from which it is made. we are not these bodies.  
yet continuing with Tim's line of thought..did any here consider that a thought is a thing that is alive?  and that thought too does not die?  then you have grid alive with all thought and sound.
so the same spirit can enter another physical housing. old timey religion calls it being reborn.  a new spirit or essence enters. not talking about walk ins, but that can happen within agreement. was thinking J is part of a hierarchy which squeezes itself into a brain, to give guidance to them that called out for guidance.

When I read A Course in Miracles which made me want to live again, (channelled, J talking)  it said something which caused thoughts of large versus small.

it said we are "thoughts" of god. so that made sense after awhile. holy cow,  somebody thought me up! :) so its back to the concepts of thoughts are things.

I think that would follow that we are talking about god "stuff." creative stuff.
the creator too is made of creative stuff, and we are made of this stuff, I like to call the light. in the old days we called it god. now we need new vocabulary.

then I fall back upon my own reflections..that of feeling like a hologram of my higher self involved in a movie, a play, because I could. that would be the only reason. the little choo choo that could. I got used to thinking of being a hologram in a movie because I found out somebody loves us up there and all of us put together are one with the force, (dont like that name either, but see how we need new labels?).
so Dude is right, his mom is right. she needs to know she is loved, and J can do a good job of that.

its love in the end which expands knowledge. my opinion. i think this was J's basic message that got warped.

I have to write some of this all over again because for some strange reason everything I just wrote dissapeared. :-/
Your right Laffingrain it is love.
But back to dude and the video, They are right about some things and missing some other things.
They don't even remotley mention the Cathers and how they believed the Jewish community worshipped Set, and how Hitler got his hands on the Cathers own Commandments and how he flipped pout after spending the night in the great pyramid of eygpt. Thats why he went after the jewish people the way he did, he had a vision of getting Atlantis back and blamed them for it being gone.
Another mistake they are making is the all seeing eye, and you have to admit no one can figure how the great pyramid was built. But I know why it was built, it was built to keep someone safe, when he came here to visit.
All in all, we need faith in something, we need love. How are any of us supposed to attain such great healing power and have hope without faith? Why wait til you die? Why not have it now, unless your chicken like me :D

Well the point of the video was to prove that the character jesus was stolen from past religions and the bible is mainly based on astrology, which it did, and finely.  So you say its impossible to see how the pyramids were built, but you somehow know why it was built? hm. Well the truth is, I am sure anyone with profficient Remote Viewing skills could see how the pyramids were built.  In fact, i have read a book in which the author did travel to when the pyramids were being built.  It was a long time ago so I forget the small details, but it definately was a feat done with the assistance of alien technology.  Just think about it... I mean, I bet that even today we couldnt build pyramids like Giza... especially not in the time period it was done in.  Statistics show that according to the historical theory, one stone would have to be placed every 2 minutes or so.  And were talking 100 ton stones! Geez.  
Faith is good up to a certain extent.  Having faith in the wrong thing could lead you into a sticky situation upon physical death, however.  Instead of putting all of your trust into somthing you think may be the truth, I think it is better to leave your mind open to all possibilities and explore the answers to your questions for yourself.  We all have the abilities to do so, which in a way makes it our obligation.  I used to put my faith into Jesus, until I started exploring new possiblities.  Once I began realising the true nature of things, I felt it was a little odd that Jesus could fit into all of it.  And lately I've been coming across more and more evidence proving that my speculation had truth behind them.  If your going to put faith into somthing or someone, put faith into yourself, because you are one with everything, you are both a part of and all of the infinite consciousness.

But don't you find it odd that all these religions point out one supernatural being?
Honestly though I don't think his intent was one of being worshiped, but rather to teach people how to behave, when I say faith I guess I mean belief.
I have had remote veiwing from time to time, I avoid it. But I do not believe alien beings built that pyramid. One guy did. The guy that did it told me so. What ever name he really has I guess I don't know.
I've never encountered an alien, I suppose they are in existance, I have seen strange things in the sky. But I have encountered an angel a couple of times.
Once very spiritually and a couple of times quite physically. I can only believe I guess what I have seen. I know that I am frequently spoken too in spirit. He has quite a strong connection with me. In time I will learn to listen. I hope.

Here.. watch this. Its a presentation by david icke, analising every aspect of the christian religion and exposing it for what it really is.  There was no jesus, he was created by the Roman church based on ancient religions.  Its impossible not to realise how fictional religions are after seeing these facts.  Even saying that he was just a regular person who was spiritual and taught people is impossible.  They did not base the "holy man" off of a real person. They stole this character from religions dating centuries before the Christian religion was even started.  Please just watch this video, it will explain it all to you.  He even gives excellent reasons why religions were created in the first place.  Hes basically a brilliant man.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8469389811298138021&q=david+icke

Oh and by the way... I hate to denounce Religions, being how so many of you still hold strong beliefs in them.  But this website is for exploring and awakening, and we all need to awaken to the truth, because only when we do this can we truely explore what is really out there.  Facts are truth, and the facts are that religions are 100% fictional and constrict our perspectives, constrict our awareness, and constrict our ability to expand our consiousness and become one with the infinate consiousness that we are.

ESS said: lol..... Why not have it now, unless your chicken like me? http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/chick.gif

I'm sorry I can't resist clowning around, but this is my alter ego, the chick.

you're right we can have what we want in this life, right now, by doing the life review early.

btw Dude, I sometimes think, pretty sure Jesus was an alien in disguise. one from the future we could say.

anyone who starts a religion, or does anything extraordinary to me comes from another planet and/or time zone.

I am in my other life religious. in this life I am not. I am just open minded in this life.
so I can argue both sides quite easily.

my other (DP) says just tell them to love one another as they love themselves and get the heck off that thread!  :)

have fun!

I Am Dude wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2007 at 2:00am:

Oh and by the way... I hate to denounce Religions, being how so many of you still hold strong beliefs in them.  But this website is for exploring and awakening, and we all need to awaken to the truth, because only when we do this can we truely explore what is really out there.  Facts are truth, and the facts are that religions are 100% fictional and constrict our perspectives, constrict our awareness, and constrict our ability to expand our consiousness and become one with the infinate consiousness that we are.

I don't mind that you have your own beliefs, I don't mind that at all but I guess each of us have had our own experiences.
Although I don't believe in Christianity the same way that I did. I do believe in supernatural biengs reaching us. I believe there have been many teachers to try and help us understand too. :)