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Message started by OutOfBodyDude on Dec 20th, 2006 at 10:41pm

Title: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Dec 20th, 2006 at 10:41pm
Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you ?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?

Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.

In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it.

In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!

After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.

Why spread such a message among yourselves ?

Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of milleniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.

Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's free will.

It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.

It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.

Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide !

The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.

You are still the architects of your own fate...

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"


Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 21st, 2006 at 1:07pm
sure, I can handle aliens showing up, no prob! but whoever the author is of this post, he's right, it is our choice collectively that we would see such a show. the teacher never shows without an invitation; the student must be ready, that means collectively, the majority.

I've heard we are supposed to see this in 2007. I have no thoughts or hopes about it. I have to wait and see like everybody else. I like having my mind blown without drugs though..this would definetely be a mind blowing situation.

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by DocM on Dec 21st, 2006 at 1:36pm
I for one am loath to think that my spiritual development would be hindered by some reptilian race manipulating things from the background - all this fuels the conspiracy theories.  

If we are divine beings - a spark of God, or a co-creator, with immortal souls, then why must there be a superior C1 race of aliens trying to manipulate us too?

Some see angels and devils in a never ending struggle in the world.  Others see grey aliens and reptilians hidden in the background.  I prefer to see my friends and loved ones, and strive to see beyond the veil of consciousness in C1.


Matthew

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:04pm
I'm in agreement with Doc, but I see behind the appearances; we do have light and dark forces in the universes according to the choice what to focus on, the mind has the capacity to outpicture the light or the dark..thats what these aliens are asking for, where we will look to. a humanity unanamous in agreement towards the oneness concept or a humanity focused on ravaging the earth of it's oil, a life blood of the planet we use to drive our cars with. theres other types of fuel out there to drive your car on, I know for a fact that certain inventors right here on this planet have had their inventions thwarted by selfish interest concerned with keeping us to the current combustion engine either through bribery or threat. it boils down to love or money, power or oneness concept. the heart or the ego pathway.

on another thought..the internet is a reflection of the great grid in the sky, the collective. the more people think about peace being desirable, the more these thoughts manifest on this level. so all we have to do is get 51% of 2 billion votes for peace..its not just the computer age that does it though..its the human thought process. the computer is a tool for communication.
so all this has me thinking global and the internet makes u think global too.
what are the most heavily populated countries? is America one of these?

everyone does have to adopt a vision, or the 51% carries the vision for the rest.
its the 100th monkey again primise.

I see only the positive behind this post Doc, because thats where my vision automatically goes. and especially after I learned the value of making a firm decision of what I want to see outpictured globally. only by keeping my eye on what it could be like here can I be helpful as in a service stance.
you always have to choose daily whom you will serve, but its for sure, we all serve either our self, or our world.  nothing happens overnight like peace. I think it happens first in the individual.

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by juditha on Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:23pm
Hi outofbodydude I myself am in self denial of aliens and the reason for this is because i dont want aliens in our earth world,i dont want them to exist,but if they do i would just like to see them stay on there own planet.

I just want to beleive that we are born humans with a soul,and its so hard to even imagine that aliens have formed somewhere,they dont seem to fit in with the natural set of things,and God made man in his own image and God was not an alien.

How do we know if they are hostile,they could come on to our earth as giant lizards dressed up as humans or turn us all into cybormen,i know i probably sound silly,but none of us really know whats out there,science fiction could come true,if aliens came on our earth i would avoid them in everyway.

I like the way it is now just being human,aliens belong where they come from,they dont belong on our planet,im not saying they dont exist but if they do,they can stay there end and i will stay mine.

Love and God bless     Love Juditha

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 21st, 2006 at 2:51pm
but what if god made the aliens too Juditha, and god made all the planets and the universe and I'm not saying I believe they look like walking lizards...but I think there are decent aliens who will not try to control our free will because we are one with god and they won't be allowed to. we have guardians in this universe that nobody knows about yet.
the forces of good will prevail. love, alysia

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by juditha on Dec 21st, 2006 at 3:14pm
Hi aylsia I realise now that God might have created aliens as well as creating the universe and the planets,i just have always liked the natural set of things,what i have always known about since i learned to understand the human langauge,i fear change,i always have,its one of my downfalls in life.

And i agree aylsia the forces of good will prevail,i just fear the fact of aliens,but like you say there could be good aliens as well.

Happy Birthday and the picture is lovely of you

Love and God bless you aylsia       Love Juditha

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 21st, 2006 at 3:58pm
thanks Juditha you're sweet. I will not let an alien bother you dear. I swear I would protect you if I can find you! love, alysia

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by betson on Dec 21st, 2006 at 5:05pm
Greetings,

Wishes are very powerful. When we make a wish our scalp can tingle because we're using some of our highest energies, like a prayer. So when these beings (human or otherwise) ask if we "wish" they will show up, they are involving our highest Will.

IMO we have to be careful for what we wish for. I can agree with their emphasis on free will and environmental concerns etc,  and that should show them I agree with them. But I'm not focusing my wishes on them.

betson    

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Dec 21st, 2006 at 5:47pm
There are humans who are consumed by darkness and evil, just as there are humans who are consumed by light and love.  If there are infact aliens within our society, with some control over our institutions and government, who wish to mislead us into darkness, then it would make sense that there must also be ETs out there who wish to show us to the light, with good intentions for us.  I for one would love to see this come to pass.  It is true, we are undergoing a shift in consiousness, more and more people are awakening day after day.  I know this by talking to all of you on this forum, as well as the 3 or 4 other forums consisting of thousands of memebers.  However, when I look outside, when I look at society, there are still so many people living with the blinds closed.  My friends may not condem me for my new found way of life, but they sure don't believe in it. They may believe that I believe it, but my knowledge of things does not appeal to any of them.  The same goes with my family.  My uncle actually believes that Astral Projection and metaphysics in general is a form of Satanic Worship lol, he claims that he learned this through his church.(darn religion, doing what it does best).  The point I am making is we need all the help we can get.  If there are ETs out there who wish to help us on our journey to spiritual enlightenment and world peace, I welcome them with open arms.  The day this occurs will be a monumental one, a revolutionary one.

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by blink on Dec 21st, 2006 at 8:10pm
I'm with you on this one, Dude...I'd love for it to happen in my lifetime.  What enormous enjoyment I will have in watching people change their focus from shock and outrage to bewilderment and amazement. To know we are not alone in this incredible experience of life and love and to meet with each other in this universe....what could be more exciting and important in our lifetimes?

love, blink

Title: If REAL aliens are watching us...
Post by Chumley on Dec 26th, 2006 at 7:12am
I'm sure they have access to what we goofy humans post on the
Web. (I'd imagine it's fairly easy technology for them to hack into,
being more advanced than us and all...)
If they ARE watching us, they must be laughing their a$$es off at
us. We have to be the most pompous, bloatedly self-important
clowns in the cosmos!
Here we are, a primitive backwater... the "hillbilly holler" of the
galaxy. And we think that the concerns of all the other races in the
revolve around a tiatanic struggle to win the hearts and minds of
our silly, 5000-year-old civilization, which has had technology for
just 100 short years, and has the minds of most of our species
still operating at an ancient/medieval level, believing in magic
and riddled with superstition (while we happily go about making our
planet uninhabitable by disrupting the global climate and turning
our oceans into a gigantic unflushed toilet with a billion tons of thousand-year plastic debris...)
Yes, they must be laughing hard. VERY hard, I dare say.
Maybe we're a running joke to aliens. Makes more sense than
the insane drivel about "The great mystical UFO conspiracy" having
any grounding in truth...

B-man

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by eggshellseas on Dec 26th, 2006 at 7:41am
I believe that "aliens" Have been here for a long time already, with the ability of cloning, but they can't get it right, thats why we have the cattle mutilations and such because the digestive track. They have some technology but not all.
I believe eventually that our truer self will become one with who we our "there". When that happens travel through the heavens and abroad into space will occur. And you will see angelic beings walk this earth. And something will be done with the 'negative" aliens.
Is that far fetched?

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 26th, 2006 at 2:18pm

 I think there are higher evolved aliens among us as walk ins. thats where a human gave up their physical vehicle for the use of one who walks in to bring influence of good unto the  society.
in the same way you can come upon bag people and see a glow around them and you know they are not what they are appearing as.

yes, Chumley we are a pompous bunch for sure. you certainly have a way with words now and then. love, alysia

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by Grant M on Dec 29th, 2006 at 1:24am
this is a fascinating account of many U.S. military and goverment  folk's stories about what they know.

They are very nervous exposing their knowledge and experiences but the info is starting to leak out and there are many many testomonies.

http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm

Grant

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 29th, 2006 at 1:51am
thanks Grant, its good to have a link to this. after having lived in Roswell NM for 4 years, I watched TV shows of the 1947 ufo crash site, both pro and con. they play these shows quite regularly there..I also made a half dozen trips to the ufo museum to study the original newspaper clips. I learned so much about the cover up. I also met an author whose father was called in to clean up the site and threatened to keep quiet or else. I didn't seek to meet him, he was working as a house painter and we got to talking.

I also was very close to a lady in Roswell from whom I bought her house. she claimed her father, a famous personage now departed was an alien as reported. I don't know, I suppose anything is possible. I keep an open mind. she was a strange one, used to meet her obe several times. she might have been an alien herself. heck, I'm probably an alien!

I loved the annual parades in this tourist town. I watched the author parade float down the street with a dozen authors on it waving..they were all the children of the military men who were ordered to clean up the site; they all remember the hushed tones their father used and how scared they were after they came home and were told not to speak of these things, yet word slips out, its hard not to talk about it and the children could hear and they wrote it down in books when they turned adults.

I will never forget Roswell. I'll put up a picture of the road that leads to the crash site.


this pic is not the site itself, it merely leads 30 miles down the road near a farm where it happened.

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by Grant M on Dec 29th, 2006 at 2:24am
thanks Alysia,

great photo! (you I mean)

also check google video and type 'disclosure project' or 'stephen greer'

interesting stuff indeed.

Grant  

Title: Re: If REAL aliens are watching us...
Post by Never say die on Dec 29th, 2006 at 11:06am

B-dawg wrote on Dec 26th, 2006 at 7:12am:
I'm sure they have access to what we goofy humans post on the
Web. (I'd imagine it's fairly easy technology for them to hack into,
being more advanced than us and all...)
If they ARE watching us, they must be laughing their a$$es off at
us. We have to be the most pompous, bloatedly self-important
clowns in the cosmos!
Here we are, a primitive backwater... the "hillbilly holler" of the
galaxy. And we think that the concerns of all the other races in the
revolve around a tiatanic struggle to win the hearts and minds of
our silly, 5000-year-old civilization, which has had technology for
just 100 short years, and has the minds of most of our species
still operating at an ancient/medieval level, believing in magic
and riddled with superstition (while we happily go about making our
planet uninhabitable by disrupting the global climate and turning
our oceans into a gigantic unflushed toilet with a billion tons of thousand-year plastic debris...)
Yes, they must be laughing hard. VERY hard, I dare say.
Maybe we're a running joke to aliens. Makes more sense than
the insane drivel about "The great mystical UFO conspiracy" having
any grounding in truth...

B-man


Well done, you're actually making a bit more sense. Atleast to my eyes  :P

But seriously yes I agree with you that all this obsession about aliens visiting us. while I am open minded to reports of visitations, and believe that aliens exist. I mean why would be the only planet with life in the whole universe? that's just stupid.

Why is it that none have really announced themselves? I think I know why. Do you think they'd really like to engage in communication with a world that is consumed with fighting over which is the so called 'right' religion? or obsessed with harming itself both the people, the animals, the environment, the whole planet in general?

I bet some of these aliens would be highly evolved both technologically and spirituality and probably look down upon the world with disdain. If only they could read this board they would discover that some of us are pretty smart and open minded about things. If they just tuned in to the evening news with their inter galactic electronic vision signal receivers  ;) what would they make of this world? I shudder to think of the answer. :-/

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Dec 29th, 2006 at 4:11pm
These nonhuman beings are interested in us because they can see that we are destroying our planet and ourselves, and want to help.  But Why would anyone come down and announce themself to a planet full of violent savages.  You could imagine thats what some of us appear like to these ETs, some people appear that way even to me.  What do you think the chances are that most of the world will accept them with open arms.  Not to good.

Title: Re: Message from ETs, continued...
Post by laffingrain on Dec 29th, 2006 at 4:19pm
William Gammil (spelling?) put out a book to say the aliens are our future selves. so we are one with them, with this particular branch of aliens who did call themselves the great white brotherhood, part of J's hierarchy. anyone who believes in love as a pathway is in this association. its the 5th level. I can't remember the title of this book, but like us, Gammil goes obe after he gives up this world for the next.
the forces against this group are carefully placed within each initiate's path to hone their skills to serve mankind.
we were told from the start we would never be given more on our plate than we are able to handle. love, alysia

ps: white does not imply racism here. it stands for white light.

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