I asked this in another thread (probably he wrong one) :-?, and got no responses.

It concerns "extra-terrestrials" and what part they may play in the whole scheme of things in this physical realm.  Is that a dumb question? :o

I have heard a lot of speculation as to who they are and their purposes.  Anyone with understanding?

Blessings,  DB

This is a tough question.  I have many ideas about this subject, however. The first is ideas I recieved from Robert Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books.  They claim to have interacted with non human begins, and say that they are interested in the earth because of the events which are about to take place. The alligning of some crazy energy is apparently going to shift conscienceness on earth. The details I do not have, just the general theory.  Some ETs are also interested in the energy of earth. However, there are other theorys which I do not discredit, either.  There is a report called Project Superman.  This man claims he was introduced to Silva mind teachings at an early age, and that basically the government turned him into a super human through mind control and other techniques generated through the mind.  This man claims that these projects were run by aliens. Reptilians. These beings apparently have a very strong influence on earthly affairs.  For what reasons, who knows. They apparently offer the government technologies not of this world, and since they are far more advanced then humans, its no wonder they have such control.  Ive read hundreds of documents stating these theories and some proving them to some extent. I mean, if the government is going to cover up a simple UFO crash (Roswell), imagine what else they are hiding.  THe point is, if I had to encounter a non human entity, I would prefer it to be the former i was talking about. Id rather not be some lab rat to giant lizards.

Hi, OutOfBodyDude!

Interesting possibilities.  Yes, I have heard many other theories as to the ET agenda.  

I believe they do exist.  There are just too many witnesses to ignore--as there are in the world of the NDE.  Some that I have heard relate to them being the lost Ten Tribes returning; to God's destroying angles; to Satan's minions.  They must, IMO, fit in somewhere in God's plan for this world.

As to associating with the USGovt?  I wonder.  There are so many highly qualified scientists in the private sector that could take these technological advances and run with them to the benefit of the human race.  The idea of ET even associating with the US Government casts a dark shadow on the intent of ET.  IMO, that can't be a good thing for us.  Of course, anyone can repent ::)--even politicians! LOL!

I would love to hear from those fortunates who have been exposed to "the infinite knowledge"
thru their NDE.  Any ideas?

Hi OOBD-
From the standpoint of the extra-terrestrials, one might ask just what part WE play in THEIR destiny and the scheme of things ...
dave

Hi Dannyboy

Good questions.  The 'religion' topic is similiar; I put my understanding of what i have learnt here.

First of all - I have writing taken from the Kabbala on 'The Seven other Worlds' and copy it here;

The inhabitants of the world of Geh sow and plant trees.  They eat everything from trees, but know no wheat or any kind of cereal.  Their world is shadowy and there are many large animals in it.

The inhabitants of the world of Nesziah eat shrubs and plants, which they do not have to sow.  They are small in stature and instead of noses have two holes in their heads through which they breathe.  They are very forgetful and when doing a job of work often do not know why they began it.  A red sun is seen in their world.

The inhabitants of the world of Tziah must not eat what other beings eat.  They constantly seek for underground watercourses.  They are very fair of face and have more faith than all other beings.  There are great riches and many handsome buildings in their world.  The ground is dry and two suns are visible.

The inhabitants of the world of Thebel eat everything from the water.  They are superior to all other beings and their world is divided into zones in which the inhabitants differ facially and in colour.  They make their dead to live again.  Their world is far away from the sun.

The inhabitants of the world of Erez are descendants of Adam.

The inhabitants of Adamah are also the descendants of Adam, because Adam complained of the cheerlessness of Erez.  They cultivate the earth and eat plants, animals and bread.  They are mostly sad and often make war on each other.  There are days in this world and the grouping of the constellations are visible.  In the past they were often visted by the inhabitants of the world of Thebel, but the visitors were striken with failing memories on Adamah and no longer knew whence they came.

The inhabitants of the world of Arqa  sow and harvest.  Their faces are different from any other.  They visit all worlds and speak all languages.

Ok.  That's the bit I have on the other worlds taken from the Kabbala.  From my understanding these worlds exist outside our galaxy system. Our earth is called 'Adamah' and we are called the Adamic human race.  Adam and Eve are major players in our consellation and from the 'Osirian Scripts' writings it says Adam and Eve are our worlds Viceroys.  In this same book it says Adam and Eve visit other worlds of gross matter and indicates God is also their Creator.

It seems these worlds exist in their own galaxies and therefore it would be incorrect to assume these worlds are part of our traditional seven planets.  It seems these worlds have their own planets and constellations.

The inhabitants of Thebel may be the ones whose spaceships have been found on earth.  The inhabitants of Arqa seem to be the most advanced in travelling to outer galaxies and obviously knowledgeable on the speed of light.

As people of the human race here; it is said there are, what is called, the Immortals who stay in our world permanently as Masters to guide us.  In my understanding the 'lost' twelve tribes of Israel are normal human beings, like us, who are advanced in the spirit and are very much part of our earth's cycle of reincarnation.

The inhabitants of Arqa might be the 'aliens' that so many people have accounted abduction stories and been operated upon in spaceships.   This is likely.  It is interesting to know 'Fairies' have similiar correlations to 'Aliens'.  In the misty past there were accounts of 'Fairy circles' which would appear out of nowhere and if a human had to walk in the middle of these circles they would disappear into another world, mainly a cave for example.  If they were liked by the Fairies they would have a huge party in the cave with the human but if not-liked the human would vanish for ever.

Rip van Winkle's tale is an account of an Fairy abduction.  In the cave it seems as if only a few hours go by but when he finally leaves the cave 100 years have go by.

Fairy lore also has a long account of baby abduction what was called 'changelling'.  Also of nursing mothers who would be abducted to look after the fairy babies.

Here we can draw similiarites to the alien abduction cases.  It seems that the Fairies have somehow evolved into aliens -unless it is two seperate species.

It is frightening and I am sorry if I have alarmed anyone especially young mothers.  The way I see it is they are either for God or they are not.  Do they come in the name of God and Christ?  If not I would be very cautious in immediately thinking they are good.  And I would not persue in looking for them at all.

I would use the protection of Christ everyday against these 'unknowns'.  

Aliens are mentioned in the Bible-

Hebrews 11v34
'Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens'.

So it is the world that is able to visit us, which we must be cautious about because they are obviously so advanced they will give 'great signs and wonders'.  I just wonder how deep is their faith and love for other creations?

We must never forget that we are the Adamic Human Race and not part of any other race.  Our race is our destiny.

Any comments or further information will be welcome.

PUL
Caryn

ET's who visit the Earth..hmm..good question!  We know through our own development and programs like SETI, that WE are searching for other life in the galaxy..so why wouldn't some other race of persons be searching also?

Eventually, we will reach the stars.  What will we find?  I believe we will find life in abundance "out there".  Not within our own solar system..with perhaps the acception of Europa, moon of Jupiter.  There may be some primitive, aquatic life forms there.

But..in other star systems..of which there are "billions" (emphasis on the B, alah, Carl Sagan ;) ), there is bound to be life.

Now, our only frame of reference is what WE do when we encounter life that is somewhat not as advanced as our own..past history shows we tend to corrupt it with our own ideas of how to live and our version of "god".  Consider the conquistadors..and Christians who came to America and what they did to the natives already living here..sad, really..to corrupt a culture so they could be "saved".

Would the ET's have the same motivations we did/do?  (even current events, from an American POV shows this same "attitude"..i.e. "lets bring democracy to the world!!)

Or, would they, being so much more advanced, having gained the ability to travel so far have some sort "prime directive" of noninterference?  

Or..maybe they are just curious?  Doing experiments, much as we do with lab animals?

I will say this though..in my explorations, I have found myself on more than one occasion on a planet I call the yellow planet.  I don't know what its true name is, but everything seems "yellow", from the plants growing to the dirt, hence, my reference to it as "yellow."  The inhabitants are not much different from us, but, I know its not Earth.

Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.

augoeideian wrote on Nov 21^st, 2006 at 3:07am:

Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.

Ok...

Augo said

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Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.

Why?

Shirley

I enjoyed your post on ETs.  Makes a lot of sense to me.  And you are spot-on with:


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past history shows we tend to corrupt it with our own ideas of how to live and our version of "god".

 

I always enjoy reading your interesting and enlightening posts.

With Love
Irene

I enjoyed your post too shirley. very good.

Thank you, Irene and Kardec..you both give me reason to continue here. :) :-*

What about the loosh gatherers. Were the supposed to be ETs or ...managers of some sort?

Ladies, if you'll permit an observation, every seer, from Nostradamus to Carl Sagan, Einstein to Wheeler, and so on, has seen the universe differently. I have several books of "scripture" of various different religious persuasions (Buddhist, Taoist, Christian, Hindu ...) that all disagree. Yet I have confidence that in one or more ways, all of them are correct.

This is the paradox of the work we do: Because we are all manifestations of the multi-facted God, we all do it differently, we all do "the one best way", we all are correct, and in the end it's all the same One thing. The mountain of Truth rests on a broad and diverse base. It has more entries and byways than anyone can count,  and yet at the top it all resolves into One.

Climbing this heap we discover first, that all we personally need to do is to be consistent for ourselves and have faith. Then we reach the level at which all things are seen as defined by all other things, so that the seeming differences vanish. Next we get to the level at which all the distinctions among the things vanish as well, there's just a big smear of Oneness. Then we reach the Oneness and it all sort of goes away into Light. From that level we can see that our worst critics and our greatest supporters are all part of the process of defining the Oneness. And, as critics or whatever, we can either choose to express ourselves by opposition, "We differ", or by union, "We agree", or in any other way.

On this forum it is fully appropriate to differ and argue, or to agree and sort of blend in, or anything else. Within reason, of course. I personally have discovered that to express love is more fun, and that it brings me more love in return. (I try to keep this in mind when I write to our politicians about some policy that I think should be changed. But some politicians seem harder to love than others. Funny about that.)
PUL
dave

Shirley I apologise for my statement.  I should have stayed off the computer yesterday because I was over-tired.

When I'm over tired I find it very difficult to flower words.  You know in SA we have 13 different languages and cultures but all are South African.  The first thing our young youngs are taught at school is tolerance.  Tolerance for one another and tolerance towards the our different culture backgrounds.  This has gone along way towards peace in our country.

Therefore if someone mocks another persons cultural belief it is seen as an extreme disregard to that persons right of freedom of choice.  

Maybe both of us need more tolerance in our lives to become better people?

 
 

Caryn, I accept your apology. But, I didn't mean it in a mocking way at all.  They were simply my own thoughts and observations of what has happened on this planet in the last several thousand years.

Earlier that day, my husband and I had been discussing our president and things he has done since in office..neither of us thinks our involvement in other countries is right.(Hence my comment about democracy for the world).

Humans in general are not a tolerant species.  We want to spread what we believe and evangalize, if you will, the rest of the world. That goes for all peoples.  And generally in religious/spiritual beliefs.  My personal belief is that we should leave other cultures alone..if they want to learn what we hold sacred, they will.

I have to admit, I was shocked by your statement.  I didn't see my comments as rude, and I don't view myself as ignorant either.  I have been where you are, in your beliefs.  Its just not something I hold as true for me anymore.

You have your views..but because mine are different, does not make me ignorant..nor does it make you ignorant.  My perspective from this side of the world is different from yours.

Just a little thought - I wonder if it could be that both of your opinions - as well as the dozen or two other versions that other members of the forum have expressede from time to time - are not only correct, in at least one way of looking at things, but also necessary for the whole picture?

For example, God is One. We arise from God, hence from Oneness. We each manifest that Oneness. Yet we are all different, and each of us creates our own personal world and somehow we actually get all these different personal worlds to fit together. It's as if God has infinite personalities, projected through all of us, and yet none of these multiple personalities duplicates any other one. Each individual world works for the person with those beliefs and understandings, and amazingly, it does so without contradiction of anyone else. (Or at least it can do so without contradiction if we allow it.)

d

Hi I think there maybe extra terrestials,but in my mind i feel as if i dont want to beleive there are,as i suppose all the movies ive seen about them,as they are always portrayed as agressive and trying to destoy our planet.

Its movies like  Independece day,and when people talk of when they have experienced alien abduction,not one of them have said it was a good experience ,but a bad one,they have all said they have been experimented on by them,which was not great.

I wonder that God made man in his own image,and filled us all with spirit,so im thinking that God was not an alien,so where did they come from and part of me hopes they do not exist.

I just beleive personally that the planets are inhabited by spirits and not aliens,

Love and God bless you all   Love Juditha

what was the original topic? :D  a question..yes I believe they exist. according to different sources I won't mention here, but you can find these sources all over the wonderful internet, our world is to view more ufo's this year coming up.

I read a book by William Gammil which did set my mind at ease concerning aliens. Mairlyn, dang if I haven't forgotten the books name again.. :-/  Juditha, you might like to read Commune, another book. the author was abducted but he does tell the benefits to being abducted and he did say he had agreed before incarnation to allow this to happen. I figure any experience of the soul traveling here whereby it seems one is subjected to undue trials, this can be turned around to see the positive side with persistence and willing to face the duality play on this planet as it tries to walk the tightrope of evolving into all we can be.
In Gammil's book, he corresponded with aliens who purported to be none other than our future selves and also a part of a very old heirarchy called the Great White Brotherhood. (ok, keep yer hat on) white to mean white light.
I happen to not believe in good or bad..its all just life happening at once. the ones with the black hats on? they are just playing a role. shoot em down if u want, u just get to come back and wear the black hat next time.

ok, got too many words in me today..I gotta go talk to my friend Shirley, we are so tight.
listen Dave. I never met anyone like you. you amaze me. thanks for balancing our energy. thats what you do and thats what I try to do too.

love, alysia

Shirley, had to do a take off your words following:  Consider the conquistadors..and Christians who came to America and what they did to the natives already living here..sad, really..to corrupt a culture so they could be "saved".
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(later note: hey! my guides or was it just my clumsy fingers? I lost my whole post! ooouuu!!  have to condense my thoughts!  in short, it was me that corrupted a culture. I came back to love this time, not condemn. so here I am! lol, I aint saving anyone but myself, and I'm not even sure of that! I must have been a complete ass in the other life! I find beliefs nowdays really interesting of humanity, you might say beliefs are like holdings...and we do hold tight! Dave here is right. the priorities is understand we are all one being dancing differently. we all have a right to be complete asses on our way to enlightenment.
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shirl said:
Or, would they, being so much more advanced, having gained the ability to travel so far have some sort "prime directive" of noninterference?
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my belief is they cannot interfere with our free will, as they are not allowed to just show up for anyone; there has to be an agreement with the other before the incarnation begun. I believe that when we are ready as a society, we will subconsciously send them the signal we are ready to see and understand more and they will do their part to help us advance when we do not run for our weapons straightway. basically, we are still a primitive society spiritually speaking.
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Shirley shares:
I will say this though..in my explorations, I have found myself on more than one occasion on a planet I call the yellow planet.  I don't know what its true name is, but everything seems "yellow", from the plants growing to the dirt, hence, my reference to it as "yellow."  The inhabitants are not much different from us, but, I know its not Earth.
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you say on more than one occassion and I'm interested to hear more. the repitition of an obe or dream is something to pay attention to. there are messages there which leads to your intentions for being here and tells you who you are. its my supposition we have not enough information to say for sure who and what humanity is as we are always in the act of becoming. thats why I'm interested in these type of explorations as I believe your higher self is leading you there for a reason. may we all gracefully move into the future, hope I'm not asking too much!! :)
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for your viewing pleasure here is a picture of me: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/spiritvideo/Alysia/alien.gif

Yes, Alysia and Dave..we are one..

And Alysia..I think you are right, when we are ready, they will come.  And, I think some of us do visit them..at least astrally.

I think movies such as Alien and Independance Day do a disservice to our outlook of potential alien contact.  But, most tend to look at "different" as "bad" or "evil"..so, its understandable.

So, in conclusion.. ;D

My personal opinion/thought/belief is that we get the understanding we need to go through this particular incarnation.  To be able to realize that each of us is different, and what we need is different, would go a long way towards understanding and harmony.

lol Alysia sexy picture!

Shirley thank you for accepting my apology - it really was an unnecessary remark which I made.  Nothing like a couple of insults to get the blood boiling eh!  But it is not in my nature to hurt people and I sincerely hope I did not hurt you, with my throw away line in defence of my love for Christ.

If one had to study and understand the roots, history and essence of Christianity in a more profound way instead of face value one might have a better understanding of God and creation.

But you have said 'its not for you' and I respect your freedom of choice.  I still think the alien world has been created by the internet, media and other elements of disaray.  But this is the same as me saying to you 'i've been where you have' its just not for me.

Dave what you have said makes good sense.  And Juditha so true.

We are all projections of God and it is our individual personalities and free-will which express our relationship with God.  And Shirley what you said; it is human nature to be intolerant of one another this is true because we are so individual.  I do not except you to be like me or anyone else to be like me; else we would become cloned robotic boring humaniods.  Our freedom of expression is healthy and is our gift.

It is amazing there is hardly any contradiction and when there is contradiction it enables us to look inside ourselves further - so contradiction is not a bad thing - but ethics and respect is important.  I am reminded of the four elements; fire, earth, air and water.  It is said these elements live in enmity with one another. You can imagine the spirits forces in these elements being in a constant tug and pull with one another.  If it were not for the Quintessence element, the fifth unseen element which keeps the equilibrium between the elements to co-exist together, if it were not for the Quintessence the four elements would annihilate one another.

It must be asked what is this Quintessence which is presence right now keeping these elements together? Surely this must be a live essence projection of God which is constant in keeping the equilibrium amongst other living essences, us included.  Without this essence, i do think the whole of nature will come crashing down around us.

And so in our contradictions it is important to keep an equilibrium with one another - together with the knowledge there is unseen forces at work.  Not aliens, in my opinion, for if they are in our solar system, they too need the Quintessence element to keep themselves together and keep the universe together.

The equilibrium is being respectful of each other, honour Creation for we did not make it, and basic ethics regarding our social structure.  If everyone applied these simple norms, the world would not be under so much strain, we might still argue or rather debate with one another but at the end of the day respect each other unconditionally.  Respect, based on the above norms. As you said Shirley; harmony.

I do believe it is a very fine balance and if the scales are tipped through carelessness we might be seeing more earthquakes and other natural disasters which may cause continents to sink and other continents to rise. This would affect the aliens, if they exist that is.

The future is in our human hands.  
PUL for equilibrium in the essence of Spirit.

Hi,

Perhaps some are interested in Seth on this subject:

Appendix 20 for session 713 (From The Unknown Reality Vol. 2)

"The strange thing about your flying saucers is not that they appear, but that you can see them. As science advances on various planes the inhabitants learn to travel between planes occasionally, while carrying with them the [camouflage] manifestation of their home stations.

"I am quite sure - I know for a fact - that beings from other planes have appeared among you, sometimes on purpose and sometimes completely by accident. As in some cases humans have accidentally blundered through the apparent curtain between your present and your past, so have beings blundered into the apparent division between one plane and another. Usually when they have done so they were invisible on your plane, as the few of you who fell into the past, or the apparent past, were invisible to the people of the past.

"This sort of experience involves a sudden psychic awareness, straight from the entity, that all boundaries are for practical purposes only. However, there are indeed many kids of science. There are a number of sciences dealing just with locomotion. Had the human species gone into certain mental disciplines as thoroughly as it has explored technological disciplines, its practical transportation system would be vastly different, and yet by this time even more practical than it is now. (with amusement:) I am making this point because I want it made plain - this, dear Joseph, is a pun - that when I speak of science on another plane I may not speak of the plain old science that you know.

"Now back to the point. When sciences progress on various planes, then visitations become less accidental and more planned. Once the inhabitants of a plane have learned mental-science patterns, then they are to a great deal freed from the more regular camouflage [physical] patterns. This applies to "higher" planes than mine, generally speaking, although mine is further along in these sciences than your own.

"[Many of] the flying saucer appearances come from [such] a plane, [one] that is much more advanced in technological sciences than earth at this time. However, this is still not a mental science plane. Therefore the camouflage paraphernalia appears, more or less visible, to your own astonishment. Now, so strong is this tendency for vitality to change from one apparent form to another, that what you have here in your flying object is something that is actually, as you view it, not of your plane or of [whatever] plane of its origin...The atoms and molecules that structurally compose the UFO, and which are themselves formed by vitality, are more or less aligned according to the pattern of its own territory. Now as the craft enters your plane a distortion occurs. Its actual structure is caught in a dilemma of form... between transforming itself completely into earth's particular camouflage pattern, and retaining its original pattern. The earthly viewer attempts to correlate what he sees with what he is supposedly knows or imagines is possible in the universe.

"What he sees is something between a horse and a dog, that resembles neither. The flying saucer retains what it can of its original structure and changes what it must. This accounts for many of the conflicting
reports as to shape, size and color. The few times the craft shoots off at right angles, it has manages to retain functions ordinary to its particular habitat.

"I do not believe you will have any saucer landings for quite awhile, not physical landings in the usual sense of the word. These vehicles cannot stay on your plane for any length of time at all. the pressures that push against the saucer itself are tremendous...The struggle to be one thing or another is very great on any plane. To conform to the laws of a particular plane is practical necessity, and at this time the flying saucer craft simply cannot afford to stay betwixt and between for any indefinite period.

"What they do is take quick glimpses of your plane - and hold in mind that the sauce or cigar shape [often] seen on on your planet is a bastard form having little relation to the structure as it is at home base.

"At a later date I may go into the inhabitants of [those planes] more thoroughly but as it is I am not very much acquainted with them myself.

"There are so many things that you do not understand that I hope to explain to you. There are other things you do not understand that that I cannot explain to you, simply because they would be too alien now for your regular mode of thought.

"One note along these lines. A place - and I am using your term I will try to think of a better one - is not necessarily a planet. A plane may be one planet, but a plane may also exist where no planet is. One planet may have several planes. Planes may also involve various aspects of apparent time - this particular matter being too difficult to go into right now, although I will continue it later.

"Planes can and do intermix without the knowledge of the inhabitants of the particular places involved. I want to get away from the idea of a plane being a place. It may be in some cases but it is not always. A plane may be a time. A plane, believe it or not, may be only one iota of vitality that seems to exist by itself. A plane is something apparently divided fro the rest of the universe for a time and for a reason. A plane may cease to be. A plane may spring up where there was none. A plane is formed by entities as patterns for fulfillment on various levels. A plane is a climate conducive to the development of unique and particular capacities and achievements. A plane is an isolation of elements where each one is given the most possible space in which to function.

"Planets have been used as planes and used again as other planes. A plane is not a cosmic location. It is oftentimes practical that entities or their various personalities visit one plane before another. This does
not necessarily mean that one plane _must_ be visited before another. A certain succession is merely more useful for the entity as a whole.

"In other terms you could say that an entity visits all planes simultaneously, as it is possible for you to visit a certain state, county, and city at one time. you might also visit the states of sorrow and joy almost simultaneously, and experience both emotions in heightened form because of the almost immediate contrast between them.

"In fact the analogy of a plane with an emotional state is much more valid than between a plane and a geographical state - particularly since emotions take up no room."

Session 713 - The Unknown Reality Volume 2

"There are space-time coordinates that operate from your viewpoint – and space travel from the standpoint of your time, made along the axis of your space, will be a relatively sterile procedure. (some reported instances of UFO's happened in the past as far as the visitors were concerned, but appeared as images or realities in your present. This involves craft sightings only)

"Give us time...When you change your ordinary television set from one station to another you may encounter snow or distortion. If something is wrong with the set you may simply tune in patterns that appear meaningless and carry no particular program. You may have sound without a picture and sometimes even a picture but sound from another program. So when you begin to experiment with states of altered consciousness you often run into the same type of phenomena, when nothing seems to make sense.

"Currently physicists have made some important breakthroughs, but they do not recognize their significance. The universe that you know is filled with microscopic black holes and white holes, for example. Since your scientists have themselves given these labels, then using those terms I will say (with much gentle humor) that there are green, red, orange and purple holes - that is, the so called black holes and white holes only represent what physicists have so far deducted about the deeper
properties of your universe and the way that certain coordinate points in one world operate, as providing feed-through into another.

"Nothing exists outside of the psyche, however, that does not exist within it, and there is no unknown world that does not have its psychological or psychic counterpart. Man learned to fly as he tried to
_exteriorize_ inner experience, for in out-of-body states in dreams he had long been familiar with flight. All excursions into outer reality come as the psyche attempts to reproduce in any given "exterior" world the inner freedom of its being.

"Men have also visited other worlds through the ages. Others have visited your world. In dreams and in altered states through history as you accept it, men have been taken upon such journeys. On their return they almost always interpreted their experience in terms of their home programs, intertwining what happened into what ended up as great myths and stories - real but not real. "

Be well & happy,
Barrie
(Seth quotes copyright Rob Butts/2006)




DannyBoy wrote on Nov 17^th, 2006 at 4:18pm:

I asked this in another thread (probably he wrong one) :-?, and got no responses. It concerns "extra-terrestrials" and what part they may play in the whole scheme of things in this physical realm.  Is that a dumb question? :o I have heard a lot of speculation as to who they are and their purposes.  Anyone with understanding? Blessings,  DB