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Message started by Kroan on Nov 10th, 2006 at 8:08pm

Title: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 10th, 2006 at 8:08pm
I've been reading about an area in the astral called "the park" has anyone ever heard of this area? and if so whats it like?

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 11th, 2006 at 12:53am
According to Monroe, the park is a meeting place in Focus 27 where you go when your earth body dies, unless of course you become stuck in one of the lower focus levels. Its main purpose is to allow us to become accustomed to the drastic change of dying.  You can meet family and friends who have passed away, and basically create whatever experience you want.  Thoughts manifest in this area, so you can have all the fun you desire. Duh. Everyone knows that. haha just kidding hope this helps.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 11th, 2006 at 4:08pm
can you go there during ur astral travels? Interact w/ the people there?

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 12th, 2006 at 2:03am
I'm sure you can.. I know Monroe was able to, he describes it in his book Ultimate  Journey. I sure as hell can't. TMI has a program that teaches you how to do it.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 12th, 2006 at 3:44am
have you ever projected before out of body dude?

If so how often are you successful and what technique do you use?

thanks... I projected once and have had a few close calls but havent been successful since.

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 14th, 2006 at 4:59pm
Yeah, Ive projected many times.  I became interested in OBEs about 4 years ago. I tried for about a week, and finally succeeded. Back then I just used the counting technique to relax my mind, and just waited for the vibrations. then i would just lift out. However, I then began using a very successful technique called SUNEYE. You sleep for about 5 hours, and before falling asleep you focus on your third eye and tell yourself you will have an OBE until you fall asleep. You wake up five hours later, stay up for an hour, and go back to sleep. While going back to sleep, you again focus on the third eye while falling asleep telling yourself you will have an OBE. Usually I would fall asleep for a second, but then become aware of my astral body lifting out and took it from there. I stopped going OBE until about a few months ago. Inbetween my break I would ocasionally catch myself in the focus ten state accidentaly, so I had an obe about once ever 3 or 4 months. But now I use hemisync when I go to bed, and it produces very good results. If it doesnt work that night, usually in the morning I will catch myself waking up, and immediatly stay still. My body usually goes back to sleep right away, but I make sure to keep my mind aware, so that also produces many OBEs.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Nov 15th, 2006 at 3:01pm
As one who has been to the Park many, many times when I've been retrieving souls from the lower areas, it is a beautiful place in what Bob Monroe called Focus 27. When projecting, whether via OBE or projecting your consciousness (which is what I do -- never had a conscious OBE) set your INTENT to visit The Park in Focus 27. It appears the same yet different to everyone.

Close by is the Reception Center for those just arriving. Some go there right after death of the body and some make their way there as they advance and some are retrieved. Picture all kinds of trees, flowers, benches, streams, anything you can think of -- birds, butterflies, small animals, etc.

Happy journeying. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: the park
Post by spooky2 on Nov 15th, 2006 at 11:02pm
Like Mairlyn, I had many mind-journeys to F27. My impression is, it is a very big area of various locations, from "my special place" to large areas with masses of people to nearly formless places where the focus of attention is on a very knowing beyond-human entity. It seems to be very well organized. But no conscious OoBE there so far, I had 2 and some look-through-eylids, and would like to have more. So, interesting tips Dude; I've noticed too, breaking sleep and sleep deprivation gets me in a very visual state sometimes.

Spooky

Title: Re: the park
Post by laffingrain on Nov 16th, 2006 at 5:08am

I Am Dude wrote on Nov 11th, 2006 at 12:53am:
According to Monroe, the park is a meeting place in Focus 27 where you go when your earth body dies, unless of course you become stuck in one of the lower focus levels. Its main purpose is to allow us to become accustomed to the drastic change of dying.  You can meet family and friends who have passed away, and basically create whatever experience you want.  Thoughts manifest in this area, so you can have all the fun you desire. Duh. Everyone knows that. haha just kidding hope this helps.


nope. not everyone knows what u just said Dude. just wanted u to know I appreciate you mention it. and I know its fun, but then again, it helps to remind each other of these things. I wake up every morning knowing I just had a fun time. sometimes I'll catch glimpses where I went to have so much fun. then I'll write it down and get more glimpses that way..sort of makes it easier to return to the fun location once more. sounds like you have a handle on your obes; good for you, its difficult to control them for most of us. feel free if u continue to experience them and have more reflections for us, or tips to try. thanks again. love, alysia

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 17th, 2006 at 11:43pm
Thanks for all the great responses everyone.. Outofbodydude 1 question regarding this statement...  

>>But now I use hemisync when I go to bed, and it produces very good results. If it doesnt work that night, usually in the morning I will catch myself waking up, and immediatly stay still. My body usually goes back to sleep right away, but I make sure to keep my mind aware, so that also produces many OBEs. <<

What is hemisync? I mean is it a cd you're refering to and if so which one is it cause i'd like to get it.


Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 18th, 2006 at 2:28am
Hemi sync is technology that induces certain brainwave activty. Its called binaural beats. One frequency in one ear and a different frequency in another causes the brain to pick up on the difference of those two frequencies. Anyway there are frequencies that induce mind awake/ body asleep, which is ideal for OBEs. The CDs i have are the Gateway Series by the Monroe Institute. They cost like a billion dollars but you can download free hemi sync tracks basically anywhere just do a search on them.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 18th, 2006 at 2:50pm
Awsome man, i'll start searching!....  

 Since my 1st obe i've been trying to find the first book that i read which is the one that helped me have my 1st and only OBE and yesterday i found it )   Now I can go back and re read this book and redo the technique!!! Hopefully i'll be projecting again real soon the book is called practical guide to astral projection by denning and phillips. it says over 200,00 sold so I guess it's somewhat popular.  

One other question Dude.... In a previous post you mentioned the counting method where you would just wait for the bibrations to come and then you would lift out..... what is the counting method?

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 18th, 2006 at 9:05pm
The counting method is really easy but also boring. What i would do is say to myself, Im going to count from 100 to 1 and when i reach one i will be out of my body. then i envision a white ball with the number 100 in it and say one hundred, i am leaving my body, then envision a ball changes to say 99, then say ninety nine, i am leaving my body, and so on. If you reach one without leaving your body, you suck. haha just kidding. Usually this induces a deep trance because your focused on counting and not your body.  and thats it. I dont use it anymore because I have somthing much better, i get into focus ten within a few minutes now, whereas before it would take at least an hour.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 19th, 2006 at 8:02am
Thanks oobdude, I set my alarm for 630 and am now gona head back to sleep, i'll try the counting method and see where it takes me. Thanks )  Btw, could you  describe the method that you use now?                                                

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 19th, 2006 at 8:08pm
Sure thing... the most effective method I have is I wake up about 4 to 5 hours after I fall asleep... Ive trained myself where I can wake up whenever I want without an alarm, becuase an alarm jolts the sh* out of you and you have to move and turn it off. So I wake up and do not move a muscle. I just lay there and think to myself, leave my body, leave my body, over and over... what happens is your body almost instantly falls back asleep, and your awake for all of the sensations that go along with it... once the vibrations start i think about floating up, and guess what happens?? If you said i float up, your absolutely...... wrong. sike your right. good guess.

Title: Re: the park
Post by Kroan on Nov 20th, 2006 at 8:35am
hehe awsome ill try that tonight thanks for all your help i'll keep you posted on my progress!!

Title: Re: the park
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Nov 20th, 2006 at 11:34pm
If you really want to make some progress with OBEs Id recommend the Gateway series. Ive only been doing it a couple days but my progress is probably ten fold what it would be without it. Today i separated my second body arms in about 20 minutes with gateway. You can read it in my journal postings. Now considering the fact that if i was to lay down and try to do that without gateway it would take at least an hour or maybe wouldnt even happen considering the distractions i had, id say its pretty good. If you cant pay for it PM me and well have a little chatty chat maybe ill hook you up.

Title: Re: the park
Post by EternalEssence on Feb 7th, 2007 at 5:27am
Kroan,

This point has not been mentioned yet. Sometimes if you become lucid during a dream (you actually realize that you are sleeping), you can go OOBE. I believe Bruce, our moderator, mentioned in a technique (I call them triggers) that may work. As you drift into sleep, mentally tell yourself: When I find my hands in my dream, I'll be out of body. This sets up the experiences that if you see your hands in your dreams, it connects with your consciousness in a way that 1) makes you lucid and you realize you are standing in a dream and 2) you can project from the dream OBE.

Triggers work well for those who cannot project "at will" -- usually very left-brain oriented folks who have the desire, but tend to think through the process and find they can't relax.

Also, I have found that setting an alarm to awaken to have an OBE doesn't always work. This is my experiences. It is best to find a time (maybe a weekend) when you can awaken naturally. Do not get out of bed, simply close your eyes and, since you are already fully relaxed, try your OBE attempt. You may drift off -- but it's okay. ;)

Title: Re: the park
Post by EternalEssence on Feb 7th, 2007 at 5:29am
I wish to mention that Bruce did credit Castenada for the technique. :)

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