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Message started by spooky2 on Oct 13th, 2006 at 10:24pm

Title: New type of retrieval
Post by spooky2 on Oct 13th, 2006 at 10:24pm
...at least to me it's new.
I found me near Focus 21, don't know, maybe F22 of F23. I was overviewing the space, and there was a sort of never seen landscape, but not really a landscape. It was foggy, I went closer, moved into it, moved through it. I could change my interaction with it, so that I could tune into it more or less, if less, then it was foggy and easy to move through, when more tuned into it, it became more solid.
In this solid appearance, it looked liked illustrations of brain cells. There were knots, and these knots were connected with extensions, just like the axons of a brain cell (at least on illustrations I saw). It was like a jungle, very difficult to move when I let it appear to me in the solid way. The color of the "cells" with its "axons" was brown. The axons were a bit flexible, like hard rubber, they seemed unbreakable, but they also were like slime- solid slime.
I felt in these knots entangled in their extensions, there was a sort of consciousness in it. I asked what it all was, and why it appeared this way, and was "told", these knots in the jungle of "axons" represent consciousnesses all in the same state, nourished, or held in shape, kept alive by these extensions.
I focused on the knot nearby, there was something human in it; I wanted to get closer, trying to remove one of the extensions from my way, as I got: "Don't try to remove it! Don't touch it!" So, remembering that I could change my approach to it, making it denser or thinner, and remembering Bruce's "seeing it not there", I stated that I would not have any interaction with these slimy connections, and thought them away out off my sight. That worked and I went close to this knot.
I saw the face of an old woman with long hair, she looked ill and weak. For just a short moment I had the feeling that she noticed me, then she fell again in a stream of repetative thoughts, a sort of deep (simple) dream or dreamlike coma. The thought activity was that narrowed that I had the impression this is not a full person. That it was an aspect, a part of a person that is for whatever reason split off and lingering here. I could not communicate with this old lady aspect, too little mind there, but I found that the short contact I had would be sufficient to make an attempt of moving it out of there. I was convinced that this person-part should be reintegrated to the person, and/or it's higher self.
I moved closer, and I got support, a large light came and positioned itself at my right side, a bit back of me; then this lady aspect moved in my direction as if I was a magnet, "she" was attached to me, and I then turned slowly around with her in the direction of the light which took her away from me, and she disappeared in it, and the light moved away; I was convinced it was not a single person light, it was something like a higher self- there is a special quality of "size", something like a long reverb in a big hall, something of this quality that was around it and which I relate to a human higher self.

I've never been to this place before or after, also the way of getting this person's-part out of it was unique. But I had a few months before encountered a man- until, after observing him, I came to the same conclusion, that it wasn't a whole person, but a part of a person. I think I'll dig it out from my notes and tell it.

Spooky

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Oct 14th, 2006 at 3:00am
Wow Spooky. Very, very cool and interesting.

Love, Mairlyn ;-)

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by betson on Oct 14th, 2006 at 9:28pm
Wow, that is amazing, spooky!
It's  wonderful that you could go about your business in there and not get caught up in some sci-fi scenario.  Congratulations!
Do you have a sense of what it was?--It seems like your point of consciousness was taken into the brain of a confused, comatose woman? Or was  that 'scenery' provided to tell you where her spark of consciousness was caught?
Are the living always magnetic but we're just used to interacting with it and it's not noticeable until you got caught up in and surrounded by a dying area?
That retrieval has lots to think about!

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by laffingrain on Oct 15th, 2006 at 12:15am
good one spooky. I feel a ramble coming on :) it apears in eastern thought we have more than one body. I believe some if not all retrievals in the astral layers, what some call region two, also known as Bob's focus levels, that these are as you say aspects of the physical being who died. by retrieving we as energy beings act on the energy field of the aspect who is stuck. not moving due to the loss of objective physical reality mindset. time is not relevant as to its passing when an aspect is caught in this looping. here, as physical beings with objective consciousness, we can get busy in some activity to stop our minds from looping on a problem, and we all get loopy here when attention wanders. on the other side I'm conjecturing we have an emotional body and an etheric body that eventually will be released by the higher causal self unless a retriever speeds up the process of that transmutation. I say released, I could call it transmutated energetically into the light, or to a better place as we call it or even re-merged into its creator, the causal self. it appears region two is a subjective realm, while physical beings are objective oriented and this is C1, or region one. forgive me, I'm not lecturing; I'm trying to understand everything I'm learning into words. your retrieval sparked off some thought in me.
the thought of each of our bodies having form, energy, and consciousness intrigues me. we are said to have 7 bodies which correspond to 7 layers of consciousness not unlike Bob's focus levels. I have often thought that by doing retrievals, in simplified terms we can be said to be "raising the dead."

aside from that thought, in region 2, the closest etheric vibration next to the solid vibration of the earth there are still what has been called shades. also can be seen thought forms of color and of various form. I read a story about a retrieval once of a man who was addicted to alcohol. after transition he appeared to be in a waiting area. a retriever came and said "I am taking you to your place now, please come with me." the man's lower alcohol ambitions disengaged from the etheric or astral body, not sure which, and he did split in two then. the man's higher aspirations then went with the retriever while the part of him that was addicted to booze went and found a physical bar and sat inhaling the fumes of the patrons.
so he was retrieved,  but his addictive side was not. I have heard over centuries, the lower natures of man simply begin to lose consciousness and dissolve and float unless there is transmutation or retrieval to occur. this makes sense to me in one way, if in region 2 it is a subjective realm, then there would not be aspirations or objectivity there, except to partake of the pleasures of the sensations that the aspect had become accustomed to as part of the larger nature of the physical being.

I am thinking of Monroe's sex pile now. it is a strange and wondrous physical planet and I wonder of the infinitude of the number of selves we can spin off and must go in search of in the end?


Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by spooky2 on Oct 15th, 2006 at 10:19pm
Thanks for responding!

Bets:

>>>It seems like your point of consciousness was taken into the brain of a confused, comatose woman? Or was  that 'scenery' provided to tell you where her spark of consciousness was caught?<<<
I don't think I was in a brain, nor it should symbolize a brain, but something similar in structure: This woman-aspect was to weak for free floating, as well it was stuck in a limited thought routine (or she was just that, I don't know); so the look of this place symbolized for me the dependance of this lady aspect, being held and nourished by these woods of axons, as well as you could say entangled; similar like a single brain cell is, relatively to the whole structure, a very limited and usual thing, need to be held and nourished in this structure, because it's to weak to go it's own ways.

About the magnetic thing, I don't know what it was, I had taken retrievees in my rebal/bubble, took them by the hand, sent them into shiny gates, but this magnetic-adhesive thing is new to me! When I remember right, the other retrieval where I thought it's not a whole person the way I pulled him/it out was also different (haven't looked it up now).

Alysia:

I sometimes had a thought that fits with what you said; it's to see the physical earth as a sort of safety net, a catcher for souls who are in danger of somehow loosing thereselves, or closing down too much, and that is because, like you said, that it's an objective world, and you can't get such easy in a closed thought-loop-bubble as elsewhere. Objective seeming, I should say (sorry for my philosophical pickyness); our world is made this way, that you can grab someone and say "there", pointing to a thing, and you both can become clear about what it is, you can talk about it, its attributes, its meaning to you etc., what I want to say is this structure of a common, shared world is like a means to get souls in interaction, while in the astral maybe they would close down because its easy to create and stabilize an own private world. It's like a wakeup for those, and we all know waking up is sometimes shocking, cold, penetrating, disturbing, but seems to be necessary at times.
Yes if there are so much aspects/bodies split off, there must be also a sort of cleaning...maybe it's actually that way that some of that just fade away, somehow recycled in the great process. I had get infos that we have many bodies, and that they are ruled by a sort of central, but the concept of who I am, and to discover and explore different bodies of my own is difficult. Maybe it's good to not take the word "body" in a too solid way, maybe more like phasing?

Spooky

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by Mendel on Oct 15th, 2006 at 11:23pm
Spooky:

Very interesting! I wonder if you were inside someone's head? I've experienced miniaturization and being inside in someone - my wife :) Alternatively, I'm wondering if there is any connection of your experience to my experience of seeing astral wires. I see these wires as connecting up all sorts of energy fragments.
I agree with you that retrievals often involve energy fragments, not the whole person. My experiential "proof" of this, was a guy who I retrieved a while back who was split in two based on his dual life as a small-business owner and a Navy sailor. I sang some tune and the two people condensed into one and then left the scene.

-mike

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by recoverer on Oct 19th, 2006 at 2:23pm
Spooky:

One time I was shown a group of earth bound spirits who clustered together because of a similar mental state.

Perhaps what you saw was the matrix of a cluster of spirits that are either earthbound or in some belief system.  They were slimly because they don't really belong together.

The human like presence you were told not to touch wasn't the spirit/cluster member you were supposed to retrieve.

The spirit you were supposed to retrieve was attracted to you like a magnet, because your physical density enabled her to see you. She became tired of the repetitive pattern of thoughts her cluster was creating, and chose you instead. You provided her with a connection to her higher self.

Title: Re: New type of retrieval
Post by spooky2 on Oct 19th, 2006 at 10:12pm
Hi Mike, no I don't think I was in a brain, see my respond to Betson. Now that you said "wires" I remember I once was somewhere above the earth, so to say, and asked if I could go closer to earth, staying in the nonphysical, but very close to the physical. Then I saw many tubes and wires of all sorts. Then I got visuals similar to the physical, but distorted, bright colors, and people were sending out light beams, which seems to represent their their focus or what is important for them.
I think tunnels, tubes, wires, light beams etc. is in general a symbol for connection of every sort.

Recoverer, yes, brought her/this aspect back to the higher self where she/it belongs to, that's what I thought what it must have been and hope that it actually is so.
This surrounding, the brain-cell-network scene, it means to me either there is a common state of mind, as well as these beings in the knots are not belonging together, as they were kept in distance from each other, and the connections were not for communicating between them, but for a kind of nourishment or hold-them-in-shape or something like this. Maybe just a symbol.

Spooky

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