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Message started by piper on Sep 3rd, 2006 at 10:57pm

Title: Do they accept us?
Post by piper on Sep 3rd, 2006 at 10:57pm
Hello.

I'm new here, and a complete novist to astral projection and the afterlife.
But i see that many have visited the astral plane and have gained wonderful things from the experience.

So my question is, as a 15 year old lesbian who is worried about whether it's wrong to be gay, does anybody know first hand, whether the non-physical beings agree with it, love and accept gay people?

Any response would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, God bless, and take care xxx

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Marilyn Maitreya on Sep 3rd, 2006 at 11:25pm
Hi Piper,

All souls are accepted. We've all been gay both as females and males in past lives. We're here to experience life and learn from it.  Welcome to the board. ;-)

Love, Mairlyn

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Chumley on Sep 4th, 2006 at 5:39am
Hello.

I'm new here, and a complete novist to astral projection and the afterlife.
But i see that many have visited the astral plane and have gained wonderful things from the experience.

So my question is, as a 15 year old lesbian who is worried about whether it's wrong to be gay, does anybody know first hand, whether the non-physical beings agree with it, love and accept gay people?

Any response would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, God bless, and take care xxx
*****************
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Female homosexuality is WAY
easier to understand for most people, IMHO. (As a guy, if I ever
have the misfortune to be reincarnated as a woman, AT LEAST
MAKE ME A LESBIAN!!!) For what it's worth, I can't imagine how
women can get off with a GUY anyhow. We're ugly, smelly, hairy
brutes, and sometimes I wonder how we manage to "get any" at
all! (In other words, why aren't ALL women lesbians?)
So, I think that a lot of "spirits" or whatever, would have the same
view on the matter.
Now MALE homosexuality is a different matter, it's vile and revolting!
(Male homosexuals smear FECES on each other, for cripe's sake!)
So THEY might have a problem...
Hope that helped,

B-man

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by augoeideian on Sep 4th, 2006 at 5:56am
B-man said :  We're ugly, smelly, hairy brutes, ....

Speak for yourself mate!! Although the second part of your sentence has a ring of truth  ::)

Heya Piper, it is said that it takes a woman to love a woman's body .. i wouldn't stress about it.

Myself likes a males touch but then .. we not talking about myself now are we .. blushes and runs aways quickly.




Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by blink on Sep 4th, 2006 at 11:34am
Piper,

I am very sorry that you live in a world where you are 15 years old and still wonder about your own acceptability in the eyes of beings in the afterlife. This world has done you a disservice in that you would even ask this question.

Every single one of us, without exception, is a beautiful, lovable, valuable, incredible soul. Most of us imagine that we are not worthy of love, for one reason or another, but we Are worthy of love.

I hope that when I cross over it will be from a perspective of greater understanding, having known and been loved by so many people in my life, and having tried to love others to the best of my ability. I have neither seen nor heard of any evidence to support judgements about sexual expression in the afterlife.  I think the general rule is to try to do no harm... We are not perfect creatures and, therefore, "harm" can be done here. However, I believe that in a place of perfect love, which I find over and over again when I explore, all can be forgiven and happiness can be complete.

Here, as well, happiness can be complete, and I hope that you will honor and respect your choices in life, no matter what they are.

I suspect that when we are greeted on the other side, it will be by those who understand us in a way that is greater and more amazing than any "knowing" which we achieve on this side. However, this is where we can make friends and forgive our enemies. That is our lesson, it seems, in this place, in this time, no matter who we are. Eventually, we realize that in TRUTH we have no enemies.

much love, blink

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by piper on Sep 4th, 2006 at 12:21pm
Thank you all very much for your responses. In refering to being gay i was refering to both men and women. I don't believe that one act of homosexuality is worse than another. It is the same principle in Gods eyes.

xxx piper.

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Kardec on Sep 4th, 2006 at 12:32pm
The spirits have no sex they can reincarnate as either a man or a woman. When our sexual desire it’s not compliant with our body the question as any other issue of our lives it’s not what is right and what’s wrong. Instead it is a question of what I must learn about my self to understand what’s happening. This is the way through with we’ll understand ourselves in order to reach the peace we want. The only one that can judge you is yourself. Friends are friends it doesn’t matter the plane we are in.

Kisses.
;)

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Shirley on Sep 4th, 2006 at 12:58pm

piper wrote on Sep 4th, 2006 at 12:21pm:
Thank you all very much for your responses. In refering to being gay i was refering to both men and women. I don't believe that one act of homosexuality is worse than another. It is the same principle in Gods eyes.

xxx piper.

"God" doesn't really care about sexuality, in that manner.  Who you are attracted to, is simply who you are attracted to.

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by mzb10zar on Sep 5th, 2006 at 8:52am
This words are from Christian Andreason NDE experience. http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
-"If this world was to ever find out just a small amount of what sexually diverse (gay) people are here to do on this planet, there would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again. Instead there would be great respect! People who speak disrespectful things about people of this orientation ... enact judgment, and do so from a place of unenlightenment, insecurity, ego and socially induced prejudice. Some may use mistranslated scriptures taught to them, not by the Holy Spirit ... but by fear-filled human beings. Many will choose to sustain a Divinely unsupported satanic hate-based rage against these children of God, rather than using Love to bring understanding and healing between both peoples. Christ said, THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT IS THAT WE ARE TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! When people sling condemnation, judgment and bitterness at others, they are not practicing the great commandment. They are allowing their Souls to fall into darkness.
When I got to Heaven, one of the first things I asked was about the very issue of bisexuality, as it had caused me a great deal of concern my whole life. My lady guide walked me to a room that had a large screen in it. On the screen, I saw two forms of Light conjoining with one another in the act of making Love. My guide then asked me to tell her which was the male and which was the female? I said, "I dunno!" She smiled at me and said it does not matter. She went on to say that the two Lights were what God saw when he looked upon us. She explained that God always sees us as our higher selves and that gender is a very temporary thing that will not be around forever. It was further explained to me that God himself is both a Mother essence and a Father essence to us, therefore; God fully understands our attractions for members of similar genders. It was told to me (or rather I was reminded) that there are no mistakes in the way each of us were made. God knew what each of us would be challenged and blessed with. We each act according to our heart (or developed Soul center) and as we mature Spiritually, we come up higher each time.

One other thing I was shown was a couple engaging in activities that focused on Lust rather than Love. My lady guide said that these individuals were in great spiritual duress and bringing upon themselves a life that would present much challenge. I saw that their Soul Lights began to dim significantly and there was a dark haze all about them. My lady guide then told me a time would come when these individuals would need to learn to come to God with their sexual selves, so that he could help them to use their sexuality in a more Loving way. More than likely, emotional or mental illness would emerge and help guide them to a more Loving path of expression. As I looked upon the figures, I sadly commented that lust was a major factor that involved many gay people. The lady smiled at me and explained that all fall into lust before we fully embrace the Light within ourselves. Later the lady also revealed to me that the two dimly beings in spiritual duress ... had been a married heterosexual couple."-
Love and gratitude!



Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by piper on Sep 5th, 2006 at 6:59pm
thank you very much. I am actually crying from happiness right now.

If this is true, it's good to know that Everybody is loved and accepted.
take care xxx

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Indiglo on Sep 6th, 2006 at 1:56am
Oohhh, look guys, we've hooked another.

Spiritually touched, on your 3rd post?

That's like.. a record I'm thinking.

;D

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by augoeideian on Sep 6th, 2006 at 2:57am
lol get down Indiglo .. jus because you a live one running from the rain rofl  ::)

What must Piper think now? No-one hooks anyone .. hey everybody .. we all march to our own drum beat.  i think Indiglo also has an electric guitar and base guitar thrown in!!

Hi Mzb10zar - thats a lovely post, thank you.  

:)

Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Jgull2a on Sep 6th, 2006 at 6:28am

(Male homosexuals smear FECES on each other, for cripe's sake!)
So THEY might have a problem...
Hope that helped,

B-man

Actually B-man - people who indulge in this kind of behaviour are "into 'scat'." The majority of the world's 'scat'ty people are avowedly heterosexual. Do the research. That you even consider the spreading of such 'feces' - the 'crap' you dished out in your post above as 'help'ful, to the 15 year old girl, who may be confused enough, would suggest that it is you to be the one with the real 'problem' - the true Scatologist  ;D




Title: Re: Do they accept us?
Post by Jgull2a on Sep 6th, 2006 at 6:39am
Piper

It's your capacity to love that matters - nothing else. Don't let other people 'label' you. If they want to use 'labels' - it's their problem, not yours. Be yourself, be happy and that will be the fertile ground needed for that capacity you have to tuly love to be allowe to truly grow, whether heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual or duck lover  ;) Well, kidding about the duck lover :-)

There are places you can ask for advice and help with this that may be more suitable than this place - certainly some of the respondents here. About as 'spiritually evolved' as a rubber duck.   There, those duck lovers again.  ;D


Take care of yourself Piper

God Bless



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