Hello Everyone,
My name is Jonathan and i stumbled onto this website, because i just been having loads of questions about death. I'm 23 and i just can't stop thinking about it. I use to be very depressed throughout high school and college. I am much better because of the love of my friends and family. Today, however i just broke down in tears. I started thinking about what happens when you die and it scares me to death. I'm not the religious type at all. I will not lie and question god from time to time. I just don't understand why some people have to suffer more while others don't. I'm going to church on Sunday, just to ask for some guidance and questions with my friends. The real reason i posted this is, i m just scared. i sit down and think about whether there is an afterlife or nothing. I'm sure many of you guys probably dat down and thought about this sometime in your life. Can you please just give me some advice? The idea of not being able to see my parents or my little cousin again hurts me. I'm not complaining to be the best person in the world and i m sure i have commited many "sins" in my life. I m just so confused and scared and I don't want to live my life like this if this rambling is making any sense. Thank you to anyone who just takes the time out to read this. I really appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

It's always nice to see new people join here because I get the chance to be encouraging which we all need once in a while!  I think you are right, many of us, if not all, were in your shoes at some point.  You sound like all your questions and wonderings come from your heart.  I'm sure you won't have trouble finding some answers.  I always suggest to the "newbies" here to definitely read around this website.  There is a lot of information and I'm sure there has got to be something that will resonate with you and will get you moving in the right direction.  There are great links at the top, the FAQ and such, and there are several forums.  Even click through the older pages on the main forum to read up on what others have asked and shared.  Another trick I can give you...if you see another member who says something you like, click on their name, go to their profile, and you can pull up other posts they've written.  It's a quick way to get a lesson from someone who you feel you resonate with.

Bruce writes about his experiences in the Afterlife, and he teaches people how they can do it themselves.  How does that strike you?  When I bought Bruce's first book many years ago I thought he was nuts!  I didn't even read the whole book.  But I wasn't ready for it then.  Later when I was, I was so happy I still had his book sitting on my shelf, and when I finally read it then I wanted to slap myself in the forehead and say "why didn't I read this way back then?  This is what I needed and I had it all along but just didn't know it".  So of course, I recommend his books too, definitely.  

Have fun!

Love, Vicky
:)

Dear Jonathon;

I think it is very wonderful that you have started to question the meaning of your existance. Congratulations on embarking on the first stepping stones towards your path to spiritual enlightment. I believe EVERYONE has had the very same questions that you are having now  at one point or another; however , many people are not brave enough to explore these topics any further. They live blindly. They except un-questionably. They give up their individuality. They conform and they follow the majority......Something tells me that there is a restlessness in your soul........you want awnsers.........I wont give them to you...but the very fact that you have started exploring this subject and have stumbled across this website shows me that you are off to a good start.

I reccommend surfing the net and exploring more of these websites. I really like the following websites:

www.after-death.com

or

www.victorzammit.com

you can also read many interesting books on this subject. I have noticed that bookstores have started to devote entire sections to this subject, so it must be popular.....

here are some good books:

"Hello From Heaven" by Bill & Judy Guggenheim

"Seven Steps to Heaven" by Joyce Keller,

"One Last Time"  by John Edward ,

"Reaching for Heaven"  by James Van Praagh,


AND LAST WORDS OF WISDOM:

~ We are not Humans having a Spiritual Experience...
We are Spirits having a Human Experience~


Robyn

Hi Jonathan,

First I would advise not letting yourself get caught up in the negative "what ifs," and fears.  Try to explore with some of the references you will find on this site.  There are no quick immediate answers - a spiritual quest is a lifetime endeavor but you can get confirmations and signs along the way.

The way you feel about loved ones, friends and family  - this is the positive that you should not lose track of.  People get so caught up in visions of the afterlife that they forget what is important while alive; love, family, kindness.  I know that sounds like a church sermon - sorry.  

But it is important.  Explore; take your time.  Learn, read, meditate all with a positive quest or journey.  But in the meantime, don't let it distance you from the real/physical world and the wonderful opportunities we have in being alive.  The most enlightened souls I have met manage to merge their spiritualism with the here and now.

Best Wishes,

Matthew

Hello Jonathon,
Your letter was written by a soul with a kind and thoughtful nature. Such a soul has nothing to worry about in the afterlife.  :)
But it's the mind that is questionning, so now seems a good time to feed the mind. Most of us here have read Bruce's way of explaining the afterlife, and we've stayed on to help explain to others.
Please read more here and ask more questions here. They are not 'just questions,' they are steps toward a wonderful afterlife. We are happy to share with you.
bets

Hi everybody! My name is Marcela and I found this web site because I was looking information about life after death. Sometimes(most of the times) it is hard for me to find people that want to discuss issues like this, they think you are maybe weird or something like that. The fact is, I found myself again wondering about what is the meaning of my existence, why are we here and other questions about after life. I have read some of the explanations given by Bruce Moen and I think it is the best explanation so far someone was able to come out with. It gives me hope  and I feel a little bit les afraid of death. I have to work on this feeling of fear because I know it is not healthy for the soul. I will love to get an out of body experience;I have tried before but with not luck. Maybe because it is hard for me to concentrate, as soon as I get relaxed the feeling of fear makes its apperance and I can not relax anymore. What is my fear when I am relaxing? An entity, ghost, spirit or something like that is going to appear and I will panic in horror ( I used to watch horror movies sometimes, maybe that affected me) Anyways, I am so happy to have found this website and if someone have a tip for relaxation different of the ones always posted in other websites, please tell me and I will practice. I need that kind of peace in my life to be able to help others too in  the way you are doing it. Thank you, and God bless you! ;)

welcome Marcela and Jonathan. this is the right place to gain more awareness and lose some fears about where we came from and where we will go. don't worry about losing contact with your loved ones Jonathan after death as that would be quite impossible to be separated from what you love and what loves you. and Marcela, I think you will advance without fear when you find out we dont really die and we are the same person here as we will be there. its a lot of fun when you start getting confirmation of the afterlife. I can't wait for u to start telling us when you do! hugs, alysia

Alysia, thank you very much for your welcome. I would love to get confirmation of the afterlife, then I would not be afraid anymore about this issue, and I could help others too. I am ready to purchase one of Bruce books, what do you recomend? Remember I am a beginner. Thank you again.Love and Gratitude! ;)

Hi Marcela,
take the "Afterlife Knowledge Guidbook", Bruce Moen's 5th book. It's worth to check it out, really.

Spooky

yes agreed, the guidebook has so much in it. but still I'm partial to the first four books for the flavor of them and just pure enjoyment. anybody know what the first book was called? I forgot. my favorite is "Beyond all Doubt." or maybe it was "Journey Beyond all Doubt."  Marcela if you deside to go with the original first 4, its best my pov, go with the first book written Bruce wrote and if u like it, get them in sequence. good to have you join us!

I think you're mixing Moen and Monroe titles there Alysia!  I forget the titles too, here they are:

1.  Voyages Into The Unknown.
2.  Voyage Beyond Doubt.
3.  Voyages Into The Afterlife.
4.  Voyage to Curiosity's Father.


Did Monroe write about or use the word "Afterlife"?  When I first got Bruce's first book several years ago I thought it was uncommon to use that word as I'd never really heard anyone use it.  I never really thought about what it meant until the last couple years after studying Bruce's work.

lets see now..jogging my short memory Vicki! :-/  Monroe has
1) Far Journeys
2) Ultimate Journeys
3) ???

yes, the afterlife seemed an old fashioned word I never could get used to using it, although my guide uses it all the time and is quite comfortable with it. later after reading some other material I thought before life was a good phrase in conjunction with Afterlife as they're the same place, but realized the majority of people wouldn't relate well to before life so I decided Afterlife was the perfect word after all. :D

thanks Vicki for listing them for Marcela and anyone else. and the 5th book is the Guidebook Marcela which has a lot of the first 4 books info and a lot more hands on instructions for learning to explore you own self, so its very important also.
hugs, alysia

Monroe's are:

1.  Journeys Out Of The Body.
2.  Far Journeys.
3.  Ultimate Journey.

I've only read the 1st one, have the 2nd though.  I've been too busy writing to read right now, which I am proud to say.  I used to read about 5 books a month, but my writing still needs a lot of work so I'm just happy to be in the flow of it right now.

Yes Alysia, "before life" is important too.  Same thing, I know, but I remember asking mom when I was very little, I think 6, where I was before I was born.  She said I was in her tummy.  I told her, no before that.  She said she didn't know...she said, "I guess nowhere".  I couldn't believe that my mom had no clue about "before life".  I thought grownups were supposed to know everything!  That was a very defining moment for me...being as stubborn as I am...I made up my mind at that point to spend the rest of my life finding out the answers to all my questions on my own.  Ha...I love being stubborn.
;)

Thats a lovely life story Vicky  :)

hi Jonathon and Marcela
Just remember You are not alone, as many people are confused and scared.
my husband was depressed and suicidal and I have lived thorugh his recovery for the past 5 years and you need to understand that there is so much more for you than you can possibly guess.
i am sure by now that just looking around this site, you know you are with people who understand how you feel, just look at the love in the answers you have received from this post.

this poem ( I can't remember who wrote it ) is a lot of what I feel about losing a loved one and to me, describes how      easy it is to be in contact with them.      
Death is just an open door


Death is just an open door
I have only slipped away
Into the next room.

I am I, You are You.
Whatever we were to each other,
That we still are.

Call me by my old familiar name,
Speak to me in the easy way
Which you always used.

Put no difference in your tone,
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.

Laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together.

Let my name be ever the household word
That it always was,
Let it be spoken without effect,
Without the trace of a shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same as it ever was;
There is unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind
Because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you, for an interval,
somewhere near,
Safe and Secure,

All is well.



Hope you love this as much as I do
with much love
Cathy B

Thank you guys! Spooky, Alysia, Vicky, Cathy for your advises and support. I think I am going to start with the first book; although I would love to get the Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook and most of all the cd's. I need them so badly. According to what I read on Bruce's experiences, special sounds play an important role in the relaxation and the stages of consciousness. It seems like I can not relax completetly before I go to bed, for that reason the cd's would be wonderful. Last night I read some Bruce material which I had printed earlier and I pray to God that I would like to have a confirmation of the afterlife. When finally I went to sleep I woke up at 3:00 am because of nightmares( I guess..., I don't remeber) I think I saw something next to me looking at me, I don't know... but I panicked. This is not the first time that it had happened. Why am I so afraid? I know that a ghost can not hurt me according to what I read. Also, I know that all the horror movies that I saw in the past are affecting me right now, but I know there are just movies...
Ah! guys, I am 38 years old and still afraid of the dark and what I think it is in the dark. But I'm not hopeless, because for some reason I am here in this site with you guys, I have the chance to share my concerns and soon with God's help and with your help I will be sharing my experiences of the atferlife journeys with you. Thanks and God bless you all, love and gratitude!
Marcela

Hi Marcela,

You are exactly right, you are not hopeless!  That's why you are here, to find out what else is out there.  Remember Bruce's quote that love and fear cannot exist together.  From Voyage Beyond Doubt on page 83, "When love is brought into any situation arising from fear, whatever is a product of that fear will disappear".  I'm sure there are lots of other quotes from his books saying the same thing, maybe other folks can dig some up to share.  I love this concept.  As you start reading his books, please share some of your thoughts or questions on the book forums.  I too want to re-read his books so I can think of stuff to add there, just been busy lately--sorry if I sound pushy trying to get others to do that.  I just like getting people motivated and excited!

Love Vicky
:)

Hi Marcela, I'm more or less echoing Vicki but I know you are supposed to be here too, and that makes me feel like things happen for a reason instead of just chaos...so welcome again and I'm a little pushy too..hee hee..just because I think you'll gain a lot from your studies like I did and one more thing, theres a lot of people reading on forums like these and each time someone reads you, a lot of those people are sending you encouragment also like us...it counts for something that u express yourself here, so we do want to hear what is happening..maybe the ghost is really your guide, or someone you knew long ago. perhaps that will be confirmation for you in the days ahead. let us know if you get any messages. love, alysia

"When love is brought into any situation arising from fear, whatever is a product of that fear will disappear"
Vicky, I need you to help me to understand something. Ok, I am trying to relax, I feel confident, I make sure I do not get disturb by nobody, sometimes soft music to help in the search of relaxation, I concentrate in my breathing, etc.; in fact, everything that helps with the issue. But in that precise moment when I get to relax, fear comes due to distracting thoughts about everything but relaxation and peace. You stated that I need to replace those feelings of fear with love. I love God, I love my family, I love nature and respect it, but even though when I try to replace the bad feelings with the one of love for all those things I have listed, it is not enough. Consequently, I give up relaxing and I concentrate on other stuff (house holds, TV, pop music) just to get a little bit annoyed by all that and replace the fear with things that I can see, touch, listen with my earthly senses. Love is a simple word that has a complicating definition. As I said before, I need to practice, and no once and a while but everyday. Thank you Vicky!
Alysia, maybe you are right about a guide trying to make contact with me. Several things in my past have been happening since I was a little girl. My mother always told me that I was a special person; but I guess all the mothers say the same about their children. Anyways, my mom told me this story. One day( I was a baby when this happened) while she was washing the dishes at the kitchen she turn around and I was standing looking at her and smiling. She smiled at me and she went back to her chores but just took her seconds to realize something, my appearance was different; she turns to me again and I was not there. The kitchen door was open so she went outside desperate looking for me. Astonished, my mom could not believe what she saw. I was in my grandmother's arms but across the street from where we used to live, about 50 feet of distance from one house to the other. I couldn't crawl across the street in just a few seconds from where my mom was. :-/ Another situation, when I was eight years old, my cousin and sister were talking about how wonderful weekend we had the week before at the camping. I said to them "what camping..." They looked at me like I was joking or something. They continued talking about details that I did not recall, about the pool, the games, the food, the other kids,etc. but with all that information I could not remember that day. Even, when my cousin and sister said I was there with them. They got upset with me because they thought I was kidding. In fact I remember getting angry because they didn't believed me, "If I was there I should be able to remember that day!!" What happened? Why that day is completely erased from my mind? Who was in my place if I wasn't at the camping?
The last thing( but I have more stories for later) when I was around 24 years old I went to visit my mom over the weekend at her house and in the middle of the night while I was sleeping,suddenly, I open my eyes because I felt a presence. What I saw was two figures similar to the shapes of humans and they were looking at me, like observing me. One was shorter than the other. I could not distinguish their faces or features, only the shapes, head and body. They were in the position like bending with their heads turn to their left and watching me sleep. Of course I screamed so loud I woke up everyone in the house. My mom came to my room and I explained what happened;" maybe it was a dream I said," but she told me maybe they are my guides or angels (I fricked out, but I let nobody see that)
Well, yes maybe is my guide or helper trying to connect or reconnect with me, and just the taught to see something that is not of earthly substance scares me. I appreciate you all reading my stories; you don’t know how much it means to me. God Bless you all, love and gratitude.
Marcela
P/S: I’m still learning English, so forgive me for my mistakes!

hi Marcela, your english is great, are u Italian? I am partial to Italians..must be another life. loved reading your story. each of us has a different story and we represent the entire world with all its countries. I can relate to non remembrance of different parts of my life, as if my soul was on vacation and just letting the body go thru time and motion of the movie here. I am of the  opinion we work with aliens and that some are short, some tall. the aliens are us, just another time frame of the future they slip into, so they want to make sure you are waking up to them, nothing can harm you, the body can take injuries, the soul cannot be injured where it exists in perfection and surrounded by PUL.
(love, undistorted) this is my belief and not the beliefs of the management! lol. just a little disclaimer so we can have a peaceful board where anyone can talk and share what they bellieve. and I'm glad u trusted this forum to share! please come anytime!

love, alysia

Hello Marcela:

You are right about the horror movie thing. A part of our mind sees them, comes to unconscious, irrational , unexamined conclusions, and before you know it we have a thought system in place that makes us see monsters under our bed.

Such a thought pattern doesn't actually "make" us see monsters under our bed. All we have to do is see that there aren't any, so we'll no longer feel the need to give such a thought pattern the power to deceive us. Such a thought pattern depends upon the power we give it.


mzb10zar wrote on Aug 29^th, 2006 at 2:22pm:

Hi everybody! My name is Marcela and I found this web site because I was looking information about life after death. Sometimes(most of the times) it is hard for me to find people that want to discuss issues like this, they think you are maybe weird or something like that. The fact is, I found myself again wondering about what is the meaning of my existence, why are we here and other questions about after life. I have read some of the explanations given by Bruce Moen and I think it is the best explanation so far someone was able to come out with. It gives me hope  and I feel a little bit les afraid of death. I have to work on this feeling of fear because I know it is not healthy for the soul. I will love to get an out of body experience;I have tried before but with not luck. Maybe because it is hard for me to concentrate, as soon as I get relaxed the feeling of fear makes its apperance and I can not relax anymore. What is my fear when I am relaxing? An entity, ghost, spirit or something like that is going to appear and I will panic in horror ( I used to watch horror movies sometimes, maybe that affected me) Anyways, I am so happy to have found this website and if someone have a tip for relaxation different of the ones always posted in other websites, please tell me and I will practice. I need that kind of peace in my life to be able to help others too in  the way you are doing it. Thank you, and God bless you! ;)

Hi Marcela,

It sounds like getting over your fear is your biggest obsticle right now.  We all have obsticles...mine was finding peace and quiet from my family and home life.  I once thought that the only way I could relax would be to drive up to the mountains and stay in a cabin in the middle of the woods by myself for a couple weeks.  I never got the chance to do that so I had to settle for learning to not let everyday life get in my way.   :)

Can I give you one of my suggestions?  It might not work for everyone, but this is something I use--this technique anyway.  I use visualization for many things.  I'll apply it to your situation.  Try to get physically comfortable in your quite relaxing place, like a comfortable chair or your bed.  This should be a nice place that makes you feel happy, in other words it is a place that is surrounded by the things you love and the things that represent you.  (For instance, pictures, candles, collectables, whatever).  Ok, look around your room and remember what it feels like to be content and comfortable there, and see that you are alone there in this nice place.  Empower your feelings with the knowledge that this space is yours and this time you give yourself to meditate and relax is for you and you alone.  You deserve this.  Now, close your eyes and envision or simply remember the room you are in and remember your feelings associated with it.  Remember the feeling of empowering these thoughts with the knowledge that you deserve this nice place, you deserve to relax and be comfortable.  Then imagine giving yourself love, loving yourself enough that you want youself to know that you deserve peace, relaxation, and love.  You can even imagine your heart swelling with all the love you are allowing yourself to have.

Ok...so what do you think about that?  Would that be something that could relax you?  As you can see, I took the focus away from your fear and replaced it with the focus of being kind and loving to yourself.  Feeling love for your family and friends is not the only kind of love that is important.  You need to remember to love yourself.  By not focusing on what scares you, you can focus on loving yourself.  That is one way in which you will be making your fears disappear.  Once you practice this technique and get very familiar with it, it will be easy to use the next time you want to meditate for various uses.  The entire process I described above won't be necessary, just remembering the feelings of it will be enough to relax you.  

I hope this helps.

Love, Vicky
:)

    Vicky, I will try for sure to do that exercise you just gave me I promise; just to read your words made me relax and I felt happy at the same time. You are completely right. I said that I love God, my family and nature but I didn’t say that I love myself. One of the roots for the issue of my fears I think is that. Sometimes I am so hard on myself, I criticize myself continuously. Thank you Vicky for your support, I will print your words to read them in this long weekend and practice with them.
    Alysia, I am from Argentina, my grandfather was from Italy. So, in my blood run Italian (mom side) and Spanish (dad side) cultures.
I believe also that there are other types of intelligences in this universe. We would be really selfish to believe that we are completely alone in this cosmos. Thank you Alysia!
And thank you Recoverer for your opinion. Television can over suggest human minds and some times alter them as well as some music with negative messages, according to what I read.
Guys, I appreciate all your support and I thanks Bruce Moen for creating this site where I found people with similar concerns and curiosity to explore the other side, the real side.
Tomorrow I will buy “Voyages into the unknown.” Beautiful! A long weekend head to practice relaxation read and enjoy life with the ones I love. Happy Labor Day to everyone, and with God’s will I’ll be back on Monday to the site. Love and gratitude!
Marcela

Hi again Marcela,
maybe you also try to imagine while relaxing on your bed to take a walk around your appartment, or the near surrounding. It works for me when I have much thoughts on my mind, and these imagination exercises are really an entrance to deeper meditation.

Also, I have the feeling a guided meditation tape could be helpful for you. I only know the The Monroe Institute tapes, "Gateway Experience", very good (for me) but I've heard also Bruce's tapes that come along optional with his guidebook to be good.

Spooky

Spooky, thank you for the tip!
This weekend I had the plan to buy the first book of Bruce and I couln't;I needed to order it first. The bookstore near my home did not have it. They told me is going to take a week to get it. I'll wait then. As soon I start to read the first, I am going to order the second and so on. While I 'm still reading from this this website.
Did you guys heard about Steve Irwin? Someone on the forum posted about him asking in what realm is he right now. I do not know about that; the thing is that last night when I knew about his pass over I was shocked, I could not sleep very well thinking about it and most of all of his wife and two children. Thank you.

Hello folks

I too came across this site 'by accident'.   :) I was raised in the Christian tradition, Catholic spefically which I left for some years. I am kinda exploring it all again. John says, "God is LOVE." Yet you often find many who profess to be Christian seeking to place conditions on that love - making God in man's image, rather that us being made in the Image of God, Who is LOVE. By their fruits you shall know them, apparently. And you know truly spiritual people when you meet them, whatever 'label' they wear.   :)

I have something happening in life at present - or about to - that has me 'wondering' about a lot of things.

Does anyone here have anything they feel they could or would like to say ? Those of you experienced in the spiritual - communications etc. I have never been involved in anything like this before. I am open minded and hearted here. So if anyone has anything from anyone, spirit, angel - some Godly being - I'd like to hear.   :)

God Bless you all !!

XXX

K